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patience. ♪ ♪ >> congress heads home today for a five-week vacation from the capitol. >> these closing hours are a mess. >> the border crisis is first and foremost that we need to get taken care of before we leave in the house closed the border bills. >> i've never been more shocked than what just happened. >> what's happening on the border. >> the wild card, texas senator, ted cruz. >> i don't know where the heart is of the republican party. >> mr. speaker, i would like to thank you for not being afraid to show us all your kind heart. >> are you kidding me? >> the majority of his caucus feels it's only a compromise when you see it their way. >> this congress is the least productive in modern history. >> oh, don't make me do this! >> sometimes i feel like the republicans in congress have no heart like the tin man. >> oh, this is too hard. >> and i want to help them find
a heart. >> i ythank you for your patience. ♪ chaos reigns in the house of representatives. hours after yanking their own border bill from coming to a vote on the floor, republican leadership is right now huddled in closed-door meetings to determine, what if anything, can be done to save face before the start of tomorrow's five-week summer recess, including staying in town until a bill can can be passed. whether there is any bill that can satisfy the far right wing of their conference and ted cruz. the headline of "the washington post" says it all, house gop pulls border bill rather than see it defeated. not majority leader, kevin mccarthy, but senator ted cruz. senator cruz who was not elected to seven the in the house of representatives has emerged as perhaps the most powerful voice in the house of representatives.
after gathering the chamber for pizza and drinks, cruz managed to vote the rowdiest to vote against the border bill, one that would have been accompanied by a separate vote to repeal the president's deferred action for dreamers. the tumult of this afternoon has revealed a house republican conference in monumental disarray, just as the congress is set to begin that summer recess. this morning, the speaker was scolding the president and announcing that congress would step up. >> the crisis on the border will continue until the president acts and he's clearly not going to act. that means the congress has to act, and so i believe it's important for us to act, and i'm hopeful that we will. >> but by this afternoon, unable to convince members of his own party to vote for a bill that was effectively written just for them, republican leadership issued this statement. this situation shows the intense concern within our conference
and among the american people about the need to ensure the security of our borders and the president's refusal to faithfully execute our laws. there are numerous steps the president can and should be taking right now without the need for congressional action. in other words, congress was not going to step up. >> while the fate of the bill at present remains uncertain, in the long run, the house bill is unlikely to actually do anything to resolve the crisis on the border. it would not have ensured speedier deportations nor would it have provided resources for tens of thousands of migrant children. nancy pelosi's immediate reaction was telling. oh, my god, she said to reporters. it was so awful. thank god. joining me now is the democratic congressman from maryland's eighth congressional district, chris van holland, what is going on this the halls of capitol hill? is the house going to pass
anything today? >> we don't know, alex. we have seen this before with the govern am shutdown. speaker boehner said he didn't want to shut it down back then and senator cruz became speaker of the house and he said we'll defund the affordable care act and we'll shut down the government to get it done. so ted cruz today once again is having his way in the house of representatives. he steam rolled over the speaker and the house republican leadership, and has sowed additional dysfunction. as speaker pelosi said this was a terrible bill. the folks in the house republican caucus opposing it want to make it even worse, if if you can do that, but here we are. we're seeing house dysfunction and the irony is speaker boehner this morning called on the president to take more action on the president's own authority when just yesterday speaker boehner led the effort to sue
the president of the united states on the grounds that he was using too much of his authority. these guys are just totally confused. >> hypocrisy, thy name is republican. quite clearly, that is the order of the day. congressman, this would seem to be a searing indict am ment of leadership, new leadership and steve scalise, the guy in charge of getting these votesing it. some folks thought when he was installed in that position he would be an interlock utor, have you gotten reaction about the job they've done within their own caucus? >> i've seen a number of republican members just rolling their eyes in the last couple of hours because as you indicated they thought this was all set. they thought that with scalise in the position he is that he could bring in the conservatives, the southern conservatives and the tea party caucus, but at the end of the
day it was senator cruz calling the shots and that's why people here are calling him speaker cruz today, and again, it just means that when speaker boehner says he's going to get something done, from now on he better be checking with senator cruz in order to see if he's got the votes because clearly, this new leadership team is not up to the task. >> what of the democrats who were thinking of crossing over and voting with republicans in support of this house bill? one would think that would have given boehner even more wiggle room to see some of the far-right flanked votes. do you know how many democrats were prepared to do that? >> i don't. and you don't know until the vote is called, but i can tell you there were not many democrats that would cross over to vote for what is clearly a very bad bill. it doesn't address the issue at the border. it was a bill designed by the speaker so they can simply say they did something to try to
politically blame the president when they left town and when the republicans closed up shop today to leave town. they wanted to leave it at the president's doorstep, but, no, i don't think they would get many democratic votes which is why they needed so many republican votes and now when they had this mass defection they couldn't get it. you mentioned it, and i mentioned, but i have to stress the fact that the only thing the republicans could do in the closing days of congress was sue the president. they wouldn't let us vote on the minimum wage or the jobs bill. we're suffering on their refusal to vote on comprehensionive immigration reform and the only thing they were able to do was waste taxpayer money to sue the president and said mr. president, you should be taking more of the unilateral executive action that we want to sue you for. it is just mind spinning, and i think the american public is fed up. >> congressman chris van hollen, thank you for the update.
good luck to you on capitol hill. >> thank you. thanks, alex. joining me now is former rnc chair michael steele and washington post columnist and senior fellow of the brookings institute, chairman deion. speaker cruz, that would know seem to be a good thing for the republican party. >> no. and i don't think it's a good thing for the process right now in trying to get something done. you know, it is clear whoever is doing the counting can't count because this was supposed to have been done, and done early and then everyone could break and they can send the bill to the senate and it all gets worked out. so right now the party is, you know, dealing with a little bit of national embarrassment. the narrative right now sucks, quite frankly, on a number of fronts and i think, being very honest about it, we have to take stock about how we are going to
be a governing majority if we cannot govern something like this right now. so i think there are a lot of conservatives around the country who are concerned about it. i think a lot of republicans at large are concerned about it and this new leadership team have got to show they have the meddle to lead here. >> i think for your average american viewer, i don't know how you have any faith in the congress being able to do anything, given the level of alarm that was sounded on both sides of the aisle regarding a humanitarian crisis that is ongoing on our border, it looks like nothing will get done about it at all. >> first of all, i salute michael steele on his salty candor because he's absolutely right about the mess they put themselves in. i was actually on the hill when that bill was going down and the session that nancy pelosi had with the group of columnists and reporters and she said in order to pass this bill they made it worse and worse and worse and couldn't make it bad enough to
get a majority of votes and it shows the box that john boehner has put himself in because his early proposal was not for a $647 million, but about 1.5 billion. it didn't have all of this difficult stuff that drove democrats away, and if he'd stuck with something like that, he would have had democratic votes to pass something. he could have lost his right wing, but he didn't want to lose his right wing because the leadership of that party is desperately scared of the right wing. this was eric cantor's last day up there and eric cantor serves as a reminder that you can never be too practical or moderate. so when he wasn't willing to go to the democrats, he had to get the speaker cruz republicans on his side and he couldn't do it. >> it is poetic symmetry that the day eric cantor is stepping down is the day ted cruz has been most ascended in the lower
chamber. michael steele, we have breaking news that house republicans will meet friday morning delaying their planned recess, the five-week summer recess to try and advance a border bill and one has to think what leverage does boehner have at this point. the only thing i can think of is the deferred action for dreamers which, of course, is a secondary vote that was to take place after they passed the supplemental $659 million appropriation -- not appropriation bill for the border crisis, that is what eric ericsson has been calling for on twitter, the act for dreamers. what does that do for the republican party as it tries to open its tent? >> well, not much. and it's very frustrating right now because this issue is so resolvable and it is so resolvable in a way in which the parties can articulate some core
ideas about, you know, our party being one of assimilation and integration and all of that. so here you have this delay now until friday which means that there's a lockdown on the vote. there's nobody who is budging to move this vote right now and so they'll now try to cobbel together what will sweeten the deal to loosen the numbers to allow a vote on the floor on friday. there is no guarantee that that will happen, alex, at this point. if the tea party caucus members and others are resolute, i think that it would be very hard to budge off of this, very much as echl e.j. noted and you did, going back to the debt discussion and shutting down the government you can see this play out in which nothing gets resolved before they have to leave town. >> e.j., you can't think for the far-right flank of the house caucus, maybe repealing it is a
good policy for them, but kevin mccarthy lives in a district where it is 35% hispanic. repealing it is not an expedient move for the number two republican caucus. >> it's not politically expedient for the republican party in general. if you look at polling and immigration. the one, if you will, liberalizing measure that is broadly popular is taking care of the dreamers because most pers americans say they were brought here, it wasn't their choice and they can go to high school and make a real contribution to the country and to target them hurts the republican party with people in the middle and it makes their problem with latinos even worse. president obama's numbers have been coming down among latinos because while they understand it's been the republicans blocking immigration reform, they didn't like all of these deportations. if the republicans want to drive latinos back to president obama and the democrats they can go
ahead and try to repeal this measure which is broadly popular and just shared decency. >> michael steele, before we go, i just think about how the republican position on immigration has at ro feed from the days of george w. bush. >> even to reagan. >> and reagan who is invoked all of the time and we play the sound of speaker boehner when he was on ohio, fake weeping, oh, it's so hard, it's so hard. when does that guy come back to washington and say, you know what? we'll take a tough vote and we'll have democrats back on board and we'll just do this. this would seem to be the base am. we seem to be in the basement right now. >> i would submit to you, we are not quite in the base am yet. there's still -- >> it is a tall building. >> it is a tall building. >> very quickly on this one, at the end of the day, in the legacy of reagan and bush that's where the party will find the sweet spot on this issue. it's not where we are right now,
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northern gaza as egyptian cease-fire efforts have stalled. more than 1400 palestinians, the majority of them civilians, have lost their lives in this conflict. the israeli death toll stands at 59. coming up, republicans and republicans may not be getting along today, but that does not mean that democrats and republicans can't be friends. we will discuss the washington's odd couple coming up next. (birds chirping softly in background.) (loud engine sounds!) what! how's it going? heard you need a ride to school. i know just the thing to help you get going. power up with new cheerios protein.
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enforcement on the war on drugs racist? >> i think it's inadvertent and i don't think anyone is plotting to make it that way. >> i think you're complicating this more than it needs to be. this has a profound, racial impact. >> joining me is the host of nbc's "the cycle." a very interesting interview. i thought it was telling or i don't know if it was telling or simply worth discussing and unpacking that given the racial disparities inherent in the criminal justice system, koeth corrie and rand as they refer to each other were really reticent to take up that issue and plum to the depths of it and here are two people saying there are systemic failures and racial unfairness in the way we enforce the world on drugs and we need to change it completely. we have rand paul saying we have food stamps to the the convicts.
>> the party that is trying to slash us. >> and there is attention there and this matters in saying that and roadwayediproviding that le but when we get to where the policies came from and what the crackdown did, reticents equal to both of them to say this is racive. in the larger context is obviously, we know, historically and currently there are aspects of the war on drug that are racive and operate in this tremendously unfair way and this growings out of as michelle alexander have a jim crowe history that often stigmaize non-vilen behavior. >> and the redeem act is a two-pronged endeavor which is to say it's changing policy and it's also changing cultural ideas around incarceration and the second part is incredibly
important especially when it comes to unemploy am. >> employment and senator paul has spoke ben this in the legislation and as he's made outreach to different civil rights group and we talk about serving your time and being done with the punish am and what senator paul and senator booker and others are saying there is a lot more punishment because people always have to do this box check saying this is a former felon and many employers say we're know interested without doing much more and they would apply to have their record expunge and give them perjury protection and to effectively lie about this if necessary and that goes a long way and it goes to something what senator paul said and there is a civil rights struggle if people who have one mistake in their past never get a second chance in our economy. >> this makes so much sense, right? it is know only juf hust, humand
it makes in context of civil rights and a lot of things make sense on paper and has bipar san support and understands the the legal framework around policy. is it practical to think that this is going get broader republican support and could actually see the the light of day in terms of passage? >> think it is possible and i think leadership can lead you far. we're not see anything tight votes here and you see that in the border bill you're covering today and you do see overwhelming bipartisan vote to provide more for marijuana and here we are punishing people for marijuana and yes, the the breakthroughs are there and mandatory for minimal reform has rand paul, cory booker, dick durbin and all together and that could come to the the the floor
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i mean, that's -- that's just beyond the scope of reason in terms of what we would do. >> remember when cia director john brennan said in march that his agency would never spy
on members of the senate intelligence committee. turns out they did. according to mcclatchy, an internal agency review finds cia employees did, in fact, improperly access computers used by the committee while its staff was researching a report on the cia's highly controversial detention and interrogation program. so those claims by senator feinstein, the ones john brennan called beyond the scope of reason, it turns out they were dead on. so dead on that brennan himself actually apologized yesterday to feinstein and the committee's vice chair, saxby cham bliss. hours ago, a member of the senate intelligence committee tweeted, the cia broke into senate computer files and tried to have senate staff prosecuted
and unacceptable in a democracy. this comes one day before senators on the intelligence committee are expected to finally get the redacted version of their report. according to the a.p. which yesterday obtained new information on the still-classified report, the report concludes that the agency kept secretary of state colin powell as well as some u.s. ambassadors in the dark about the harsh techniques and secret prisons, and that some of the ambassadors informed about inter guyings of al qaeda detainees at black sites were instructed not to tell their superiors at the state department. the a.p. also reveals that while the report does not draw the legal conclusion that the cia's actions constituted torture, it makes clear that in some cases those actions amount to torture by a common definition. the timing of the declassification will be up to senator dianne feinstein. joining me now is senior national security and intelligence correspondent with mcclatchy newspapers jonathan
landy. thanks for joining me. it is a huge news story today, this reveal, john brennan apologizing for what dianne feinstein had initially accused him of, the cia breaking into or monitoring senate computers. what has gone on behind the scenes in the months since dianne feinstein first levied
these allegations or today or yesterday with john brennan's apology some. >> so according to the cia, john brennan, because of the seriousness of senator feinstein's allegations asked the cia inspector general david buckley to conduct an internal review of the buckley came up w number of cias, attorneys and specialists inappropriately accessed a database that was supposed to be accessed only by the senate committee staff by
agreement of the cia. the cia will dispute the way a lot of people are interpreting the finding here as well as the
response -- the response by john brennan that you just played, the question is whether or not the cia had hacked into this computer in an effort to thwart the committee's investigation and john brennan said absolutely not. the definition of the word hack may be what's at play here because at least as far as the cia is concerned they can't hack into their own computer system. this was a system that the cia provided to the senate staff, but i suspect that a lot of people are going to say that's splitting hairs and indeed, the cia did hack into this system to determine whether or not the cia had an internal review of the
interrogation program, that according to senator feinstein and others, actually confirmed the findings of the senate's own report. >> let me ask you, there are some very
angry senators on capitol hill today. senator udall issued a statement that says i have lost confidence in john brennan. i am concerned about the director's apparent inability to find any flaws in the agency he leads. the white house is defending john brennan, but one would imagine that the senators on this intelligence committee are not going to let it simply end here with an apology from john brennan. >> well, i suspect not. you've had several senators including senator widen demanding to know having a clear accountability of what happened, who, perhaps, ordered this intrusion. how it happened. i think there will probably be some internal wrangling over this because, look, the white house has said john brennan has said and a lot of people on capitol hill have said they want
to get this report out and put this entire matter behind them, and i think that not just the
findings of this internal cia investigation, but the report itself is going to make it awfully difficult for the government, for the administration, for the senate, for the cia to put this matter behind them. >> indeed. i mean, if we look at the leaked state department talking points on this report they are explosive. i'll just read a couple of highlights. at one point one of the questions is doesn't the report that the senate intelligence report make clear that at least some who authorized or participated in the rendition and interrogation program committed crimes? they asked again, whether the justice department will revisit the decision not to prosecute anyone. there could be criminal charges here, jonathan. >> we'll have to wait and see and the state department will have to answer overseas to other
governments demanding to know what's in this report. there are governments that will be implicated in this report for hosting black sites and also it's very curious because you know, when the justice department issued its statement saying that it has no -- insufficient evidence to pursue criminal investigations and it added, quote, at this time, unquote. >> indeed. >> and so, indeed, it appears to have left the door open for possible -- for a possible further investigation of this
matter. >> really quick before we let you go, do we have any estimate on when this report will be declassified? we know it's go going through the redaction process. senator dianne feinstein seems to be involved as well as cia officials and george tenet, according to the new york times. do you have any sense of when the declassified report is? >> the white house will finish its own review of the cia's declassification review, send
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you came to me because you want to keep this quiet, until you get it all wrapped up the way that you wanted and then you can make a big show of how you solved it all. >> why should that bather you? you're the one that taught me that's how it's done. >> i taught you don't sacrifice your men. he's dead, no one is talking about him anymore. you can get him paroled on reasonable doubt or send those [
bleep ] back to the penitentiary. sadly, it makes no difference to anybody. >> that was a clip from the new drama "the divide" about the fight to exonerate a death row inmate, but the drama over the death penalty and wrongful convictions is hardly confined to scripted television. just this week, a headline in "the washington post," announced a federal review of convictions came to a grinding halt after most were found to contain flawed, forensic evidence from the fbi lab. that may have led to the convictions of hundreds of potentially innocent people. after reviewing 160 of the convicts, the fbi stopped the process alarmed at the errors in the vast majority of cases. already, defendants in 23 cases in death penalty cases have been notified that the fbi examiners, quote, exceeded the limits of science when they linked hair
samples to crime scene evidence. all of this is part of the very troubling real-life backdrop for wetv's "the divide." joining me now is creator and executive producer of "the divide" as well as the star of "scandal,". >> thank you. >> great to be here. >> how did you get interested in the wrongful convictions. >> i made a film and that was a story about a man that was convicted of murder and spent 18 1/2 years in prison for a murder he didn't commit and his sister had become an attorney to try to get him out. that story led me into the endlessly fascinating stories of the cases that the innocence project works on, and you know, like what you just mentioned and this thing that's just been revealed with the fbi, the innocence project is also a big mandate of theirs is judicial
form and because in our justice system there are so many cracks and so many ways that things go wrong that we take for granted, you know? and so i realize that i have a function to serve a job to do as a story teller to get these stories out here and my partner who wrote "the divide" and we co-created it, the stories are so fabulous and dramatic, but it also is a way to shine the light on our system and have people go, really? that happens? >> yeah. and the injustices splinter along familiar lines which is to say race and class. one of the interesting things that you do in the show is that it's two white men that have been convicted unfairly for a crime they did not commit, and the broad majority of cases or african-americans who found themselves wrongfully convicted
or on the wrong side of the law without proper legal representation. >> barry scheck who was the co-founder of the innocence project, i was close to barry and said i have this idea for this show and he said it's fantastic, but you know what you should do, you should make the prosecutor black and the murder family black and the two inmates white and just turn it on its head and richard and i realized we could get into the whole discussions about race and racial politics in america and just turn expectations on their head because one of the thins as story tellers, you know, we don't ever want to have easy good guys and bad guys and say, oh, even though 99. -- whatever the percentage is, most of the time it is people of color getting the raw end of the deal, but in our world we mix that all up constantly. >> i think that's important, too, because people question sort of what is relevant to them, if it's not just the other
always. >> exactly. >> you are, i mentioned this in the intro, but you play president grant on "scandal," here you are working on an issue that is politically, incredibly relevant and we just had a segment about this about criminal justice reform being taken up in a bipartisan fashion. you are engaged in the world through the lens of a story teller and an actor and producer. i wonder what you have sort of gleaned from all of this work. in terms of telling the story of america and the 21st century. are there things that you find particularly hopeful or particularly despondent? >> oh, no. i'm very hopeful. i mean, you know, these dueling -- one of the things in watching your show right before this, the maddening paralysis in washington. >> yeah. >> you know, is one thing that can be very, very did i spiriting and looking at the multiple wars around the world that we're struggling with and
all of the things happening at the border and all of the negative things that happen and yet, you know, the power of the human spirit to charge to break through that, to effect, real, meaningful, lasting change and to keep doing it and the american spirit to do that is the thing we're all so proud of that as americans we feel it. we do it. and we're so proud, and i see, you know, people like barry scheck and peter neufeld, as you and i were just discussing off-camera, the people that dedicate their lives to social justice and to making the world a better place for -- for other people and people in our government and in our justice system and lawyers, you know, good prosecutors who want to get it right. >> to make the difference. >> and fbi agents. and they're good, positive actors and i sort of feel like
they prevail in the end and i'm positive about it. >> yeah. i think the existence of the innocence project, just that in and of itself is very positive. >> let's look at the example of the fbi problem. in one sense, you can say, all of these cases that are called into question and yesterday, the fbi kind of stopped this investigation because it probably made a lot of people uncomfortable and yesterday the innocence project went to the attorney general's office and the attorney general's office said -- >> we're going re-open this again and so it shined a light on it it and so to me that's a hugely positive step as opposed to the political machine and the instituti institution. >> the fact that the doj said no, no, no. we'll find out what went wrong is a hugely important step for us and it is also awesome that there is a television drama that deals with this directly and gets people talking about it. actor, producer, director, generally very good person on
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it has been a wild, last day of school for the house of representatives. news broke this hour that the house will not recess as scheduled today, but will instead stay in d.c. at least one extra day in a mad dash to pass the republicans' border bill. joining me now is the sage of q capitol hill, luke russert. luke, where do republicans go from here? >> they have to figure out a road to 218 on their bill to deal with the border crisis. john boehner slashed it all of the way to 660 million and was tough in terms of border security hoping to get those more conservative members. they met with ted cruz last
night and now tonight they'll go back to the rules committee and figure out a way to get a bill that will appease those conservatives. >> that's the language that president obama came up that would repeal that and as well as tie the president's hands to do that in the future. there's foe way the president would sign that into law, but they need to throw the hard core conservatives red meat. >> why didn't do that from the beginning? >> they wanted to have a bill that would address the funds first. however, they wanted a more hard core version of the dhaka bill, fr spencer bachus, he didn't think that went far enough. he wanted to tie the president's hands and no bill could move forward. so this is quite the conundrum
they're in right now. >> the terrible, no-good, very bad bill gets that much more terrible. >> and embarrasses the new leadership team on their first day in office. indeed. >> nbc's luke russert, thanks as always, my friend, for the update. ezra klein will be in for me tomorrow "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show," i'm ready to go. let's get to work! ♪ ♪ ♪ >> america cannot wait forever for them to act. >> let's talk about what the president is doing when he's not golfing and that is executive orders. >> president obama may be secretly planning to take action? he said essentially i'm going to take matters into my own hands. >> you can't let your brothers and sisters in congress leave for vacation without fixing that problem down there when you're all so outraged, can you? >> this is a ma