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with the apartheid and charges of genocide. genocide. in what moral universe does genocide include warning the enemy population to get out of harm's way or ensuring that they receive tons of humanitarian aid each day as thousands of rocks are being fired at us or setting up a field hospital to aid their wounded. i suppose it's the same moral universe where a man who wrote a desertation of lies about the holocaust and who insists on a palestine free of jews. they can stand at this podium and shamelessly accuse israel of genocide and ethnic cleansing. in the past, outrageous lies against the jews where the
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precursors to the slaughter of our people. but no more. today we have to defend ourselves. we will expose their lies against us. against us in the court of public opinion. israel will stand proud and unbowed. >> ladies and gentlemen, despite the challenges facing israel, i believe we have an historic opportunity. after decades of seeing israel as their enemy, leading states in the arab world increasingly recognize that together we and they face many of the same
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dangers. and principally this means a nuclear armed iran and militant islamist movements gaining ground in the sunni world. our challenge is to transform the common interests to create a productive partnership. that would build a more secure, peaceful, and prosperous mideast. together we can strengthen regional security and advance in water and agriculture and transportation and health and energy in so many fields. i believe the partnership between us can also help facilitate peace between israel and the palestinians. many have long assumed that they can help facilitate between israel and the arab world.
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but these days i think it may work the other way around. namely, that a broader or small between israel and the arab world may help facilitate an israely and palestinian piece. we must look to cairo and a man, abu dhabi and elsewhere. those who are willing to provide political color and other indispensable support. not because they occupy a foreign land, but they are not occupiers in the land of israel. history, archaeology and common
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sense all make clear that we have had a singular attachment to this land for over 3,000 years. i want peace because i want to create a better future for my people. but it must be a genuine peace. one that is anchored in mutual recognition and enduring security arrangements. rock solid security arrangements on the ground. from lebanon and gaza, they created the two militant enclaves on the borders from which tens of thousands of rockets have been fired at israel. these sobering experiences heightens israel's security concerns regarding territorial concessions in the future. those concerns are even greater
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today. just look around you. the middle east is in chaos. states are integrating. israel cannot have territories from which it withdraws taken over by militants yet again as happened in lebanon. that would place the likes of isis within a few miles of 80% of the population. think about that. the distance between the lines and the suburbs of tel aviv is the distance between the un building and times square. it's a tiny country. any agreement that will necessary tate a compromise, i will always insist that israel be able to defend itself by
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itself and against any threat. yes despite everything that happened, some still don't take the threat seriously. but i do and i always will. as of israel, i am trusted with the responsibility of ensuring the future of the jewish people and the future of the jewish state. no matter what pressure is brought to bear, i will never waiver in fulfilling that responsibility. i believe with a fresh approach, we can advance peace despite the
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difficulties we face. we have a record of making the impossible possible. we made a desolate land flourish. with few natural resources we used the fertile mind of our people to turn israel into a center of technology and innovation and peace would enable israel to realize the full potential and bring a promising future not only for our people, not only for the palestinian people, but for many, many others in our region. but the old template for peace must be updated. it must take into account new realities and new roles and responsibilities for our arab neighbors. ladies and gentlemen, there is a new little east. it presents new dangers, but also new opportunities. israel is prepared to work with
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arab partners and the international community to confront the danger seize those opportunities. we must recognize the capability and the role of arab states and advancing peace with the palestinians. all this may fly in the face of conventional wisdom, but it's the truth. of the truth must always be spoken, especially here in the united nations. isaiah, a great prophet of peace taught us nearly 3,000 years ago in jerusalem to speak truth to power. [speaking foreign language]
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for the sake of zion, i will not be silent. for the sak of jerusalem, i will not be still. until her justice shines bright and her salvation glows like a flaming torch. ladies and gentlemen, let us light a torch of truth and justice to safeguard our common future. thank you. >> benjamin netanyahu. we were promised this would be a searing razor sharp response from palestinian leadership and it was indeed that. he first said about comparing isis and hamas, he made an
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extensive comparison to isis and iran. i want to go into all of this with kristen welker. what impact does netanyahu's speech today have on the negotiations with iran and in particular over the past week, wendy sherman has been leading those negotiations said she welcomes the prospect and that would let the world in. these remarks painted iran as the enemy and the big threat and the world order as negligent in allowing that to happen. >> you are absolutely right. he used strong language compare iran to isis. i don't think he could make a more searing indictment of iran. this is typically what we hear from prime minister netanyahu who accuses iran of terrorism, so he dug his heels in at that speech in the un. in terms of the impact it will have, it's not clear of having a lot of impact.
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there were meetings about the nuclear program. there wasn't a lot of progress. there was a major sticking point. as i saw, they are urging iran to ease sanctions. there was talk about a possible deal between iran and the u.s. in terms of helping to fight isis. the administration is really disputing that, saying they are not going to coordinate with iran on that point. one key point i will end with, they say they are going to meet in the coming weeks, but no date has been set. when are they will can be back to the negotiating table? the dead line is november 24th. without a date, not a lot of hope right now that there is going to be any significant progress. >> certainly rhetoric that was
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more and more measured on both of the iranian and the u.s. side is maybe rolled back by the comments that has we said are very, very extreme. at one point saying would you let isis enrich uranium? the first thing the did within ten minutes of starting was to equate isis with hamas. look at that part. >> that isis and hamas are branches of the same poisonous tree. isis and hamas share a creed which they both seek to impose well beyond the territory under their control. >> this is perhaps the most extreme statement, but it's not a new talking point. we heard them make the comparison again and again. is that resonating with who you are talking to? >> look, the white house's stance is that they say that israel has a right to defend itself. they continue to take that
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stance, but the administration officials say that type of heated rhetoric doesn't help to resolve the issues in the mideast. what you are seeing him defend his foreign policy after abbas had strong words when he spoke at the ux n and accused them of human rights violations in the wake of that conflict that we saw raging between hamas and israel. of course 2100 palestinians were killed in that. that was really netanyahu's answer to what we heard from abbas. he was expected to make the heated comments, but he certainly is ramping up the rhetoric against hamas and against iran. >> we know you are following the fallout from the speech very, very closely. we appreciate that and will be keeping an eye out as well. as the white house continues to gear up for combat against isis. this will play into that and we
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will take a closer look at that other big story, just how the campaign is going. facet, the coalition building. britain, belgium, denmark agreed to help the u.s. in military operations in iraq. critically not on the syrian side of the i kwaequation. i spoke to her about where her country stands. >> norway is providing hum humanitarian assistance and would they consider getting more involved in the coalition against isis? >> we sent planners to participate in the planning of the operations and said we can go into a training mission if that is needed to help for the iraqi government and kurdish different groupings to resist isil. i'm a strong believer that that underground dispatcher should be done by the neighboring count
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countries and by the people themselves. it should not be a fight between the islamic organization and the west. the other muslims are in the forefront of this. we will help militarily when it comes to training and we think that's a good role to play. >> joining me now, the admiral is the former commander and commander of nato. a major leader during many operations in libya and syria and a perfoekt voice to the obstacl obstacles. thank you for your time. >> great to see you. >> i want to get your reaction to netanyahu's speech. searing rhetoric there. shou that going affect the intersection of iran's states and the isis effort? are we heard these positions before from israeli leaders and perfectly understandable and a searing and frankly very powerful speech in every
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dimension. it will have a chilling effect on the negotiations with iran for the -- to keep them from obtaining the nuclear weapon and it will put the breaks on some of the discussions of alignment of interests between iran and the sunni world and the united states. so the israeli voice is important and will have to be accounted for in these conversations. >> turning to the broader operation, the president is saying the united states is going to shoulder the lion's share. when you look at the contributions as they stand, are they more than just symbolic? how real is that? >> as the nato commander, i led the coalition 50 nations. 28 nato nations. 22 from around the world. as well as the libyan operations. 35 nations involved in that. as i talk about in a book called the accidental admiral, coalitions are hard.
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if i had one word, it would be patience. you have to recognize that each of these nations is going to come with a different political sense ability and capabilities and propensity to use force. the commander and the leader to do it. >> i want to you hold that thought. if you are able to stay, we will go to break and be right back. >> you bet. >> thank you so much. max! what are you doing up? it's late. i just wanted to have breakast wih you.
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>> how did they end up where they are in control of so much territory? was that a complete surprise to you? >> well, i think our head of the inteligence community, jim clapper acknowledged they under estimated what had been taking place in syria. >> he didn't say that we under
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estimated isil. he said we overestimated the ability and the will of our allies. the iraqi army to fight. >> that's true. that's absolutely true. >> president obama on 60 minutes last night. back with admiral and former commander of u.s. command. the president was so wear be against isis. in response to that, how far behind the curve is the u.s. in tactical terms because of that late entrance into the game? >> we are behind, but we can recover the situation. we needed to get them pressing down and revitalize the iraqi forces and get them pressing up from the south and continue this bombing campaign in western iraq and senior syria, cutting off the resources. when we put isis under a
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three-front war, we will discover they are not ten-feet tall. >> the purposes of a syrian side of this as well, one thing we have been seeing with the allies you are working with, they are willing to commit, but there is an absence of promises on the syrian side. how big of a concern should that be? >> it's about patience. you need to keep asking and in afghanistan many of the europeans did not want to take on tasks and overtime because the threat becomes clear, they become more willing to participa participate. i anticipate that's how this will go. how are they willing to give. they are doing tact tal training. how do you put those into place and without turning it into a war of east versus west? you continue to work hard to
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bring the arab nations into this. we see commitments from five states and all of them sunni nations which is significant. we get our friends to bring what they are best at. intelligence, logistics and support and precision-guided strikes. those are things that the europeans have very strong capabilities. if we combine what the arab states can bring with the europeans, we do what makes them work. each nation contributing to the overall goal of the coalition. that is such an important message. we appreciate hearing from you. >> great questions. another important story unfolding. hong kong's largest protest since the hand over of power. we will go there live and give you the latest on the umbrella protest live right now. we will explain it all for you
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revolution. as you see there, they are using umbrellas to protect themselves from police. the dow falling 100 points in early training. look at the impact around the world from the thick of it in hong kong is our beijing correspondent. thank you for following the story for us. what was the catalyst for people who were just tuning in? >> the catalyst was a recent decision from beijing that affects the way that hong kong people would choose the top leader in the city clone as the chief executive. they said that when the people choose their leaders, they will be able to vote, but only on candidates that have been vetted by them. this is about hong kong people demanding more autonomy and full democracy. >> this is reported to be a largely or at least significantly youth-prison protest and new report of an
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instagram crack down. what do we know about that? >> it's a student-led protest at this point. there is tens of thousands of people on the streets. almost all it is fair to say are on their phones and posting pictures and messages. in hong kong, and across the woerder in mainland, they are careful what makes it through. that's through the provocative images. >> we are looking at the live images. you mentioned beijing. are we hearing a response? how big of a problem is this for them. >> i have to imagine they are pretty nervous. this is for them a nightmare. this is exactly what they have been wanting to prevent by force since the 1989 crack down in tianamen square. they have been questioned and
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hamas? >> we are seeing some chatter. i anticipate it will be a lot heavier post speech. when it comes to the israeli conflict, there is a negative backlash. jihadists have taken advantage of this conflict to spread their ideology. they referred to the state as a zionist state and use of human rights and it's backed by the united states. in that context, they used that as a negative radical tool to use against the united states for backing such a so-called racist zionist state. >> you had family back in iraq and you know the country better than anybody. what reaction are you sensing thus far to the air strikes? >> everyone is afraid and there is no vision that is taking the country forward in one vision. when i talked to my shia friends and family, they are afraid and
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they are moderate people. they said we have our own lives at stake. when i talked to sunni friends and families, they are supporting their own militias. christian community is more afraid of that. they have no militias to defend them. they address some issues and does not address the underlying reason why isis is expanding. what we need to do is understand them and address them. they killed a women's rights activists just for criticizing and being abouting a women's rights activist. they executed her. >> the underlying reasons is a lack of respect and lack of development. >> lack of ideological vision of what it means to be a muslim in today's world. economic. isis is paying $1 thousand thousand a month for each fighter when the policemen is
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iraq is $600 a month. >> that is a perfect point with what with a report in the "new york times" saying that the command hean reenlisting sold r soldie soldiers. we have a quote saying that. nobody is being asked to explain at all. how much faith can we have into the private communications. >> not that much faith. the iraqi government has been incompetent and inept in certain extents confronting isis. that led automatically to isis seizing control of the city. they have been scared. we have seen the beheading of scores of solars. because the government has accepted many volunteers.
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isis capitalizing on that. building on that sunni tribes they have towards what they view as a shiite-led government. isis is really has the upper hand and after that, the offices themselves. it's tough for the iraqi government. >> we know from the way the fighters flooded their ranks, that is an internationally successfully recruiting effort. one of the other things the iraqi people has is fighting forces on the ground and coalition partners from the air. how are the different pieces of this coalition being received by iraqis. what is the reaction for instance to the u.s. desire to get the turks more involved? >> iraqis are generally afraid and thinking america is going to
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assassinations. the independent last month calling him a murderous des pot. they spoke in central park this past weekend and i sat down with him afterwards. i asked him what the rest of africa can learn from the economic success of rwanda. >> when they see rwanda making progress from everything and the tragic history where we we are today, it shouldn't be an indication that other countries are going to make it. there no problems and whatever problems others are facing. it's unusual in any part of the world and certainly in africa. why is that so unusual? >> i think different countries
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have been coming from different levels on that. we have been focused on empowering women and insisted on the agenda as part of the social economic government process. you have that and we have encouraged women to participate in the politics in all activities of life and we have a good response as well as we have takenests to uplift women and participate. we have seen progress in parliament and the judiciary and the private sector and different levels of governance. >> president, we talked about the incredible particular story, but even with all of that progress and growth, you have been accused of cracking down on freedom of the press and jailing dissidents. what do you say to the charges?
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>> if you look back over these things that happened,i don't think they will be made at the expense of those that have been talked about. in fact there people that tried to perform a permanent narrative about who is different. this as a relationship with their own environment in our history. they have always insisted on participating very negative picture of rwanda. rwanda. they may be criticized, but me which count row and which leader will not be criticized. you talk about media bias or coming from a place of ulterior motives, but your country's
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penal code prohibits defamation by the head of state. which that change? >> you are speaking one thing among thousands. the justice system and for example, they do not include a death penalty. why do others have death penalties in their own laws? why don't you think about removing this from your laws? >> i think that would be a fair critique as well. is it not a fair critique of rwanda? >> it has to be put in that way. you can't me why. i would be saying why are the others doing that what i think they should be doing. >> just in the last week, there accusations that you hired a hit man to murder your general in exile in south africa. do you have any response to that. >> this is what i'm talking
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about. these narratives, people have recycled and repeated the point of having the kind of questions. i'm here to talk about the progress. it's not about and even when it has been solved. >> even when it's a new charge that you hired a squad of four hit men? not worth talking about it? >> let's talk about women empowerment and children going to school. let's talk about general governance. >> last topic that has been lingered on so much, but is in the minds of viewers. the accusations that you backed the m 23 rebels while they were committing atrocities in the republic of congo. have you stopped any aid to the
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rebel forces. >> in the same way, it's one-sided. the same people making those accusations have been one people. nobody keeps asking questions about why the forces exist for the last 20 years. if you look at rwanda's progress, they come from where we are. i think it is it's fair for people to question our politics or distance or even our intentions. >> our thanks to president call kagami for his time on that. tough questions. up next, another patient who may have contracted ebola arrived in the united states for treatment. we ask, are we doing enough to
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they estimate 259 million lives could be affected because of the commitments made around. good stuff. one of the issues on the table and on the stage that stage, global health crisis and none greater than ebola. an unidentified doctor checked into national institutes of health yesterday after being exposed to ebola. that doctor had been caring for patients in sierra leone. if she's infected, this will be the fourth american to contract the virus. as 3,000 u.s. troops that president obama pledged in this fight begin arriving in west africa. they're building tents and hospitals in liberia and they're facing tough questions about whether this is too little, too late. the also the world bank increased its funding to $400 million to help combat this epidemic. for our call to action this week we're asking you to help spread awareness of this major health crisis and sign the one
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campaign's act to end ebola petition and share it usi usinusing #en using #endebola. you can find all the info at we look forward to see you tomorrow. it's been a pleasure. that's "rf daily" for today. up next is "the reid report" with my colleague joy reid. >> you know what this is, right? that symbol? >> tell me. >> that's either -- >> illuminoty. >> or the prime minister of india. b beyonce and jay z were great. and you were great. blistering speech from benjamin netanyahu where he aggressively goes after isis, iran. and president obama facing
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hello, i'm joy reid and this is "the reid report." we start with a stunning speech out of the united nations here in new york. a short time ago benjamin netanyahu threw down the gauntlet against the u.n. itself and muslim world, equating his country's recent bombing campaign in gaza to strikes against isis militants in iraq and syria and equating isis with both iran and hamas. >> that isis and hamas are branches of the same poisonous tree. isis and hamas share a fan attical creed when they both seek to impose well beyond the territory under their control. >> senior correspondent for global post and joined by skype
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from jerusalem. nova, you were tweeting throughout this speech. what is the reaction in -- where you are, in jerusalem, to this really hard-hitting, very in your face speech by the israeli prime minister? >> well, i think people in jerusalem are used to netanyahu's style. in a way, there's nothing really shocking for people who follow him. i think israeli journalists are commenting on the fact that he actually pulled away from the iranian subject. in other words, his last two u.n. appearances were almost devoted entirely to the possibility that iran could go nuclear. and now, with the new configuration in the middle east, he seems to have realized that that would not go over well and that the united states sees iran potentially as even a partner fighting isis and that there's still hope for nuclear agreement. and so he pulled back and restricted his attacks onra


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