tv The Rundown With Jose Diaz- Balart MSNBC June 5, 2015 6:00am-8:01am PDT
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to them. so this is a constant effort to fight back those attackers and also find other tools of national security to hopefully deter this activity which is clearly very damaging. >> nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has the latest. >> good morning, jose. this is believed to be the biggest cyber attack in u.s. history, targeting 4.2 million current and former employees. it could be more. who did it? u.s. officials tell nbc news most likely china. today the government is scrambling after a massive hack into personal information -- names, social security numbers, birthdays. for millions of current and former government workers. if proved to be from china, the u.s. would likely retaliate. >> there are all sorts of ways that we can retaliate. but through diplomatic means and perhaps by giving whoever is behind this if we can determine that for certain a taste of
their eenown medicine. >> the government is telling employees to monitor their bank accounts and offering identity theft insurance and free credit reports after the hack into the office of personnel management opm, which warned of the threat in april. >> in an average month, opm forwards almost 2.5 billion confirms attempts to hack its network. these attacks will not stop. if anything they will increase. >> this comes after north korea hacked into sony and russia hacked into the state department, the irs, even the white house. reading president obama's e-mails. >> this cyber world is sort of the wild wild west and to some degree we're asked to be the sheriff. >> reporter: the fbi is pointing to china which has hacked into government computers from this military building in shanghai. u.s. officials say the attack could have been prevented if a new cyber defense system has been installed government wise. hours before the announcement this warning from a member of the intelligence committee. >> it's possible to root out
these threats from overseas and foreign hackers and do it in the a way that does not violate the rights of law-abiding americans. >> reporter: a spokesman at china's embassy tells cbs news that "jumping to conclusions and making hypothetical accusations is not responsible and counterproductive." u.s. officials are still assessing the damage. so far they don't think that the hackers got what would be the crown jewels -- the identities of covert cia agents. jose? >> andrea pitching thank you very much. i want to bring in kelly o'donnell at the white house for us. kelly, good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> how sure are u.s. officials that china is behind this? >> in talking with government officials what i was told is that there are a few nation states that have the capabilities for this kind of sophistication. they would include china, russia and iran and based on what investigators and officials know about the type of breach sort of a signature -- that's my word
not theirs -- they believe china is a strong suspect at this point. of course the china knees are pushing back on that but officials think china would have the motivation and the capability to show the u.s. it can do this. and one of the things that i was struck by in talking with officials is the idea that not only is the content something that this sort of espionage or hacking would be seeking but just the ability to show a country like the u.s. with all of our sense of strength and inpenetrable forces to show them that it could be done. and also i was struck by talking with officials how regularly almost in a constant state of bombardment there are hackers of varying levels trying to pierce different systems within the federal government. jose? >> if this was a message, what a message it was. more than four million people's hacked information that could be used for any number of things.
how is the united states planning to respond? >> part of this will be the investigation of trying to identify who or what agents or actors are involved. was it in fact a government? was it some sort of a criminal element or a more of an espionage element. all of that needs to be done. but in speaking with officials they say there could be diplomatic response or there could be more of a counter assault on a hacking in that realm, using the tools of hacking to get back at an alleged perpetrator. that's part of what they need to figure out. but a response i'm told by officials, is certainly warranted. if they can get enough information to determine who is responsible. jose? >> kelly o'donnell at the white house, thank you very much. we'll keep a close eye on this massive hack attack throughout "the rundown" today. but turning to developing news out of massachusetts, usaama a him will be laid to rest three days after being shot and killed in a confrontation with investigators who suspected he was on the verge of launching an attack on police.
rahim's family is speaking out, questioning whether police had the right to approach him in the first place. a spoke man said the family saw no signs he was linked to terrorists. >> the family of course, is aware of various media reports that suggest that usaama a him had been radicalized by isil. that comes as an absolute surprise to the family. they had not perceived any conduct or change in demeanor with usaama consistent with those reports. >> pete williams is nbc's justice correspondent. he joins me now with the latest. pete, good morning. >> reporter: jose good morning. usaama a him's brother, a former he ma'am here in boston has raised questions from the beginning about how and why his brother was shot. family members have now soon the surveillance video from the drugstore parking lot that shows his final moments. family members of usaama a him are in boston for his burial today and to press for a
thorough investigation of his death. now they've seen the video that shows what happened as he was approached then shot by boston police and the fbi. >> it's hard to look at that. it was painful. there were tiers and there was a lot of emotions in the room. our prayers, we left them for usaama. >> reporter: officials say a him drew this knife, came at the officers as they backed away and wouldn't drop it. but the family lawyer says the tape isn't detailed enough to tell whether he was holding a knife. >> some people inferred that a knife was present because of the behavior of the police officers that is because they were backing up. but in terms of being able to see the knife, the video was not of sufficient quality. >> reporter: also thursday, a woman who described herself as a him -- rahim's aunt said it's not surprising he would have a knife. >> with the current slaughter of black men going on across the nation, that's enough to make any and all black men feel
threatened. >> reporter: the fbi says two hours before rahim was shot he was overheard telling a friend on the phone he wanted to attack police officers in massachusetts law enforcement officials tell nbc news he called his father to say "you're not going to see me again after today." meantime a police and fbi agents have been questioning a rhode island man. authorities say he knew some of rahim's plans but no charges have been filed against him yet. state investigators here in boston may show that surveillance video more widely but not until after a him's funeral and perhaps not for several days after that. jose? >> pete williams thank you very much. i want to turn now to new developments from the job market. we got a new report about a half hour ago and it's a good one. the labor department says 280,000 jobs were added last month, shattering expectations. but the unemployment rate climbed a notch to 5.5%. as for the ethnic breakdown, the african-american unemployment rate climbed to 10.2%, latinos
lower at 6.7%. whites and asians remain below 5%. cnbc's hampton pearson is live outside the labor department in washington, d.c. what's behind these numbers? >> well, the number as you said, the headline numbers better than expected. the other thing is a lot of that job growth was created in the private sector over 262,000 of the 280 private sector hirings. and major seconders of good-paying jobs. business and professional services added 63,000 workers. leisure and hospitality 57,000. health care an additional 47,000. there's even a bit of a hint of rising wages, average hourly earnings were up 0.3% last month compared to 0.1% the previous month. we even had an upward revision for march and april. an additional 34,000 people hired than had been previously
reported. one red flag in the record you might want to look at going into the summer there's always concern about finding jobs for teenagers. the teenage unemployment rate was 17.9%. that spiked up from april but at the same time there are reports saying prospects for teenagers getting jobs this summer are better than they've been if recent years. so we need to marry those two people up to get through the summer. >> thank you. good to see you. a little later this hour on "the rundown," we'll go to the white house and talk with president obama's top economic advisor about the new jobs report. stay with us for that. developing now in colorado hail wind and rain are pummel pummelling parts of the state. look at this incredible image. this is near denver. look at that. talk about a sinkhole. this is a sinkhole. severe weather caused this sinkhole to swallow the car. the threat of tornados continues today after at least two tornados touched down in the
rocky mountain state yesterday. nbc meteorologist bill karins joins me now. bill, that's a scary shot. >> it's not often you see a squad car in a sinkhole. the guy got out safely that was good to here. jose, we had the severe weather we showed you yesterday, there was a lot of hail. i think we have pictures of the hail that fell in the denver area it was enough to cover the streets. some of that is baseball-sized hail. that's window-shattering hail i call that. we'll see more of that today and all the severe weather into the weekend will be in the central plains. we're doing okay right now. we're quiet as is typical for this time of day. there's no storms as of now. slight risk of severe weather for four million people. the denver to pueblo i-25 corridor then back up to caspar. i don't think we'll see a ton of tornados but we'll get that large hail. a bigger severe weather threat on saturday. three million people at risk lincoln to home ha. a chance that we could get flash flooding in this area. they've had rain over this past
week now to blanca. the storm weakened significantly but it's gotting its act again. it's clearing out and getting a decent sized eye. we think it will directly impact areas around cabo san lucas as we go through sunday. most likely as a low end hurricane strong tropical storm. so for those areas they got hit last year by lily. this one will be a glancing blow and it won't probably have a lot of impact. so maybe if we're lucky we'll get that moisture into california and arizona and get rain from this in the days ahead. >> that would be good. guillermo, why will it be slowing down as it he understand into land? >> the air is drier and it's not quite as humid and water temperatures aren't as warm so that's why it won't continue to be a strong hurricane. so that's good. >> good to see you. thank you. just getting started on this friday edition of t"the rundown"." still ahead, is there a serial shooter in colorado? a manhunt is under way as police
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results as a result. >> zach, turning to clinton, you're an expert in the voting rights fight. was this arguably her biggest speech so far? >> well jose we said we expected yesterday her to go big. it turned out she went bigger than we expected. so the headline "universal automatic voter registration" where you're automatically registered to vote where you turn 18 unless you actively choose not to. 20 days minimum of early voting for every state. fully are storing the voting rights act which was weakened by the supreme court and then fully implementing the recommendations of the president's bipartisan commission which proposed stuff like online voter registration and a commitment to making sure voters don't wait more than 30 minutes at the polls. so a sweeping vision hillary laid out for expanding access to voting yesterday. >> zach, 100% of that would be federal whereas we all know states have a lot of responsibility in these issues.
>> that's right. i mean she understands not much the going to get done on the federal level for the usual reasons. but the dates, as you say, are where all the action is almost all the action on these voting issues. this will do two things -- it will push along these proposals on the state level where progress can be made. already oregon has passed a universal voter registration law, california has a proposal. you'll see more and more popping up in blue states and i would expect purple states. that would be the new democratic wish for voting laws. and it will also change the conversation where republicans are going to have to respond and answer the question why are you not in favor of this stuff to make voting easier. >> benjy, before we go talk about roast and rye, the event happening in iowa? >> a number of 2016 contenders are off to an event hosted by new freshman senator joni ernst,
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we're getting to the point where they have to see to government workers "we don't have the money to pay you. pensions, we don't the money to give to elderly people. requests they haven't reached a deal with their lenders to figure out how to fix their economy to get more bailout money which is roughly around $240 billion. >> but michelle this far left political party that took power in greece won in no small part by saying they would not do what you're saying they're probably going to have to do. >> right and that's their dilemma. in a couple of hours we'll hear from the new greek prime minister to see how he'll resolve what you're talking about. he won on the promise that they won't have to pace lower pensions and that there will be all kinds of increases in the minimum wage et cetera. but greece doesn't have the money to do those things and they're not getting new money out of the other countries at this point in europe because the other countries are frustrated that in greece 75% of government
workers retire far earlier than expected, in their 50s. whereas in other places in europe they have to retire in their upper 60s. they don't want to pay for that. they have to resolve that. if it doesn't get solved we'll see a situation where people can't take their money out of banks in greece rioting once again. >> they've pulled out a ton of money already from the banks very quickly, what lets anyone believe if greece can't pay by today they'll be able to pay by the end of the month? >> the idea is hopefully they'll get a deal with their lenders where they'll get a disbursement of roughly 10 billion euro and that will help them pay the bills for a few more months. >> michelle, do me a favor, go back to greece i need your reporting from there. we need to go there. it's a crisis in the making. >> it's going to be. >> thanks, michelle good to see you. now to the changing u.s. relationship with cuba. a rare glimpse on the ground there. a very personal journey for an nbc washington reporter and his
family as they return to cuba for the first time in more than five decades. david culver recently traveled to the island with his mother and grandmother who hadn't been back since they left the island in 1961. the trip emotional to say the least as they visited places and were reunited with people they haven't seen in 54 years. listen to some of this. >> oh my god. mami! oh my god! >> oh my god! >> this is it the laboratory nodarci. >> this is where dad worked. she said she'll never forget. >> you can see the letters. >> or at least where they were. the building hasn't changed too much. >> joining me now is wrc reporter and anchor david culver. david, good to see you. >> good to see you, jose. talk about this journey home for your brother and grandmother. they were reunited with family
they haven't seen in half a century. >> you know the latino culture. you have great uncles great aunts, cousins, doesn't matter. you greet them with a hug and a kiss. in many cases they took care of the keepsakes and that great aunt you saw there of mine she took care of the funerals and burials of our loved ones there because the exiled family members couldn't go back to visit so you leave there and you met them with overwhelming gratitude and really in awe with how they've lived their lives. >> david, you've said the reality so many cubans live under struck you, especially when you saw the home of your great aunt luz maria. at one point she got a bread rags delivery. talk about the contrast between what it is and what many believe it is? it's a powerful moment when we see the water she saves in her kitchen, a propane tank that fuels her stove. can a couple bare shelves worth of food but that's what she lives off.
there's a perceptions but by some americans and even i held this to a certain extent before going of this tropical paradise. you think of a vacation spot. but the reality is this overwhelming amount of poverty. yet they have that poverty. they have the needs and desires, no question, but there's also a very uplifting and positive attitude that almost every cue man we met including my own family members carry with them today. >> and david when you grow up outside of a country your parents are from or your grandparents are from you hear these stories about what it was like. talk to me about what you expected to see, feel sense and what you actually saw, felt and sensed. >> well, i think my grandmother's initial expectations were that she wasn't going to have necessarily an attachment to things. she never wanted to go back. for as long as i can remember growing up she had no desire to go back to cuba. that changed earlier this year. something in her, i think
perhaps it was the realization that her memory was fading or perhaps age was getting to her and she said "i would like to go back." so i wasn't sure what emotions she would industrial. yet we go there and there was a range of emotions. you saw in that one piece the tears, the sadness but then at the other end there were bursts of already aer the and joy and she would see things that obviously would bring back those happier and fonder times. >> so many have died without that opportunity, david. thank you for being with me. i appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. >> catch david's entire report on nbcwashington.com. it's worthwhile. now to delaware where hundreds gathered to mourn the loss of beau biden. his casket arrived at the statehouse in dover where mourners lined up to give condolences. he died last week from brain cancer. he was 46 years old. you can see vice president joe biden along with his wife grief stricken. it was the vice president's first public appearance since his son's death last week. >> the biden family is
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he was still in high school. this is coming from reports by the associated press and abc news. nbc news hasn't independently verified the reports. hastert was a wrestling coach in illinois during the 1970s. we've made repeated attempts to get a comment from hastert and have been unsuccessful. this is also breaking. think about the pilot behind the crash of germanwings flight 9525. a state prosecutor says co-pilot andreas lubitz reached out to dozens of doctors ahead of the crash possibly seeking advice about an undisclosed ailment. investigators say lubitz intentionally cashed the plane on the 24th of march killing all 150 people on board. the head prosecutor says he'll discuss the investigation with victims' relatives next week in paris. still ahead, we'll get white house reaction on this jobs numbers that were reported this morning. we're also keeping an eye on the live pictures from co-lorado
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>> reporter: that was the thrilling finish of the 1978 belmont stakes which saw affirmed become the 11th horse in history to claim horse racing's triple crown. it's been 37 years and 13 attempts since, yet no other horse has been able to pull off the elusive feet. >> golden act is third approaching the 16th pole. it is an upset now. there is going to be an upset. and ali shiba will not win this one. sunday's silence takes the lead and looks to the triple crown. down the stretch and it's easy go erwining the belmont. >> silver charm has lost the lead and touch gold will deny him the crown. >> some attempts at racing immortality weren't even close. then there was 1998 where real quiet's bid was anything but quiet. >> joining me now from belmont park is nbc racing analyst and reporter donna brothers. donna, how are you? >> i'm well jose how are you today? >> great, we know what happened
with real quiet. he lost in a photo finish. do you think that will be like this this weekend? >> gosh i hope not. you're trying to get him beat in a photo finish already? i hope not, jose. >> it would be cool if it's a photo finish either way. >> i would like to have a photo finish for second. i would like american pharaoh to be an easy winner and let's get the triple crown thing done. >> can he be an easy winner? this is not an easy race. >> he can be. he's the best horse in this race. there's no question about that. a lot of the past performances have speed figures that handicappers use to gauge a horse's ability, he's the best horse in the race. but the x factor and it always is, and that's why they call the belmont stakes and this third leg of the triple crown the test of the champion is the mile and a half distance. none of these horses are bred to go a mile and a half, none of them have ever done it, probably none of them will be again. so it ends up being the x factor. plus it's his fifth race --
third race in just five weeks. >> talk to me about post five, that's what he drew for his starting position. what do we know about that? >> well the post five should be five. post position won't be a big deal here like it was at the derby. that is mile and a half oval so they'll break right in front of the grandstand and beleave me the crowd noise is deafening when they're standing in the starting gates. are the horses going to be good in the gate and not get to unsettled or rattled by that crowd noise. the other horse in the race that's got some speed and the potential to maybe go with him breaks post position 8. that's materialality. so if materialality comes out and if american pharaoh isn't quick, makes him bourque to get in there or cuts him off. that's the only drama that could develop but other than that i think american pharaoh will try to get a clean trip under victor espinoza and post five should be a good enough post to get that
done. >> and what a great jockey espinoza is huh? >> yeah this is his third opportunity to be here. the first jockey in the history of horse racing with the third chance at the triple crown. the first two weren't his fault. in 2002 he was on a speed horse who led all the way in the derby, preakness, then stumbled at the start of the belmont stakes. then last year with california chrome, the horse about two steps away from the gate the horse next to him stepped on his foot and he had a gash there which i think made him not be 100% under victor espinoza. but he's got the horse tomorrow jose. >> it's a race to see. nbc's donna brother, thanks for being with me. >> good to see you, jose. >> don't miss belmont stakes tomorrow. nbc's coverage begins at 2:30 p.m. eastern time leading up to the race at 4:30 and coming up later today on msnbc, thomas roberts one-on-one interview with american pharaoh jockey victor espinoza. plus, five things horsing around
in our next hour of "the rundown." but tomorrow all eyes will be on american pharaoh. once again, i want to be clear, my favorite pharaoh, ronan farrow. now to strong jobs reports released just last hour. better than expected, 280,000 jobs were added last month. the most so far this year. the unemployment rate climbed to 5.5% because more people started looking for work again. the jobless rate for african-americans and latinos remains elevated. african-americans back in the double digits at 10.2%. let's bring in jason fuhrman, from chairman of the white house council of economic advisors thanksing if being with me. >> thanks for having me. >> give me the official status on today's jobs reports. >> you know you have to feel good about these numbers. as you said the best numbers so far this year. we try to take a longer look. over the last two years, the economy has added more than five million jobs. that's the best we've done in the two-year period since 2000.
it shows that some of the bump wes had there look increasingly like they were due to the weather port shutdowns, a bunch of temporary factors and this is really the underlying strong trend of the u.s. economy. >> what about the average hourly wage? it only rose 2.3%. is that strong enough? how can that change? >> in this past month they were up 0.3%, that's a bit faster than the average had been running recently so you do see some signs of faster wage growth. but you're asking the right question. how can we make that even better? trade is one way because export jobs pay up to 18% more. putting more pressure on the economy through steps like infrastructure, making sure the sequester doesn't go back into effect in october would help as well. then we need to take steps to connect the overall economy with what workers do by raising the
minimum wage. >> and let me read you a statement from speaker john boehner. the other side is always important. "it's always good that more americans have found work but weak economic growth and too many still looking for steady jobs and better pay, we can do better." how do you think we can do better jason? >> again, let's work together on doing better. we have funding for our roads and bridges through the end of july. we'd like to have it for another six years. we'd like to do an increase. a lot of republicans said they believe in truckinfrastructure, too. so if you want to do better that's a great place to start by investing more in our infrastructure, putting that on a sustainable footing. so the real question is are you going to take the steps we all know will work? >> jason, thanks for being with me on a friday good economic news to share, thank you. >> thank you. after a quick break, she's been pa movie star for decades,
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steinem. what's the definition of feminist to you? >> i think you're looking inging inging at it. >> reporter: are you pro choice? >> i'm pro everything. >> she totally understands you can bat your eyelashes and also do karate. people think being a feminist is maybe being male imitative and it's not. it's being totally human. >> reporter: why not ms. piggy? >> i've spent so much money marketing myself as miss piggy, i think it would be an unwise investment. >> i think the whole idea is, you can call yourself anything you want. >> you can call yourself anything you want. irin joins me now from new york. thank you. this is a world class exclusive interview you got. tell me about this. >> all i can say, it was a great honor to be flanked by two of my heros growing up gloria steinem and miss piggy. this was a controversial
decision, not everybody thinks miss piggy is a feminist but she goes for what she wants, pursues her dreams and never apologizes. >> she is the best of the best. the kids are staying home from school today because they are graduating this is a good day. tell me so you said you sat down with her, but looked like you were standing it. which was it, irin? >> she was sitting, she was standing, but feminists come in all sizes and shapes. >> thank you. i love fridays and i love this story. thank you, take care. coming up live to the white house for the latest on a massive hack involving the personal information of more than 4 million federal workers. they are saying the chinese could be involved. plus police are looking at three shootings in colorado to see if they have a possible serial shooter on their hands. we're going to take you live for the latest on the investigation and i'm sure this has happened to you before cruising on the left lane of the highway moving along nicely when you come up on a slow poke driving very slowly
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compromising of the personal records of 4 million americans, i certainly think that a strong response is warranted. >> well china, meanwhile, is firing back dismissing the allegations. >> without further investigation, you jump to a conclusion so quickly. we think it's not scientific, and it's not responsible. >> msnbc's kelly o'donnell joins me now, along with elise who covers for the hill. kelly, you spoke with senator collins. who exactly got hacked and what kind of information were they able to get? >> what she indicates based on her initial knowledge, this breach was substantial, perhaps the largest in american history. and that it was detected at a time when the department of office of management and budget personnel management those sorts of big departments, are
undergoing some improvements to their cyber security. and one of the layers that's been added on to the -- to protect the federal government's data actually helped them to discover this problem. i've been told there are millions of attempts that are sort of pecking at the federal infrastructure on a daily basis, and part of a new system to try to protect the government's information and intellectual property and the data of employees actually helped them to find it. so that's an interesting piece right there. and by getting the numbers, social security numbers, birth dates, personnel information about as many as 4.2 million employees, current and former of the federal government what can that provide? that can help those who might have obtained this information on how the government operates also insights as to how they might hack in the future because they'd know names and identities of actual employees.
it is deeply troubling, and the kind of thing that officials are very worried about. in part what senator collins said to me is if the chinese or another foreign actor was able to do this could a very determined hacker go after a nongovernment, but perhaps infrastructure in the u.s. things like our natural gas or our electric grid really showing vulnerabilities and that's a tremendous concern for lawmakers and other officials, who are trying to do two things find out who's responsible and what do we do about it. jose? >> you're at the washington post congrats at the new job, you reported last week cyber security staff at the irs has been cut. the irs's cyber security has been cut this is a huge agency. is the government doing enough on cyber security? >> many lawmakers would say they aren't. we're living in a time of enormous vulnerability. let's count the hacks that have affected the federal government in the last year. the white house, the state
department e-mail systems, which are believed to be hacked by the hugss. this is the second time in less than a year opm was hacked and for viewers at home, opm is the federal government's hr department holds all of that information for current and former employees, so these are enormous incidents and i think they really do underscore the fact maybe the federal government needs to look at overhauling cyber security practices in order to build up defenses. >> elise viebeck and kelly o'donnell, thanks for being with me. turning to boston the man suspecting of plotting to kill police officers says he was radicalized by isis are an absolute surprise. a private funeral will be held today for the 26-year-old. he was under 24-hour surveillance after he was shot and killed by police after he pulled a knife. the family says they don't know
what happened or why. >> the manner in which mr. raheem was approached by law enforcement officials bears on the reasonableness of his alleged response to law enforcement and the reasonableness of law enforcement's exercise of its discretion along the forced continuum. the family is not making any substantiative claims at this time about what happened in this case. instead, the family is waiting for evidence in order to form a reasoned and informed opinion. >> msnbc's sarah dallof is live in boston for us this morning. good morning. the family says they are waiting for more information. what more have they had to say? >> reporter: well, good morning, jose. the family is describing raheem as an energetic young man going about his daily life. they say his demeanor had not changed at all in the past few months indicating he may have
been radicalized by isis. that is in sharp contrast to the case that law enforcement has laid out, the evidence they have presented revealing rahi m's alleged plan to go after police officers. the boys in blue as he called them, and purchasing three large knives online. the family now has seen the video, the surveillance video from outside that cvs when rahim was shot and killed on tuesday. his brother says it was very difficult to watch. >> what about the shooting video we've been talking about? do we expect that to be made public at any time? >> we do jose. it could come as soon as the next few days perhaps longer. law enforcement has promised the family they will not release it publicly until rahim is buried his funeral is scheduled for today. the district attorney promised to release the entire investigative file, could be
thousands of pages. they'll release the entire file to both the public and the family once the entire investigation is complete. >> sarah, thank you very much good to see you from boston this morning. in colorado an intense man opportunity is hunt is under way. nbc's jacob lastrascone is on the scene. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. these otherwise safe and quiet communities have been rocked by a series of shootings, a third now in as many months. the fbi has now joined a task force promising unprecedented manpower and resources to catch the person or people responsible. >> he's bleeding uncontrollably on the side of the road. >> reporter: this morning the fbi and local law enforcement are desperately searching for what they fear may be a serial shooter targeting northern colorado. >> help us look. keep your eyes open.
pay attention in your neighborhoods. >> reporter: the first victim survived her attack shot in the neck in april while driving along interstate 25. other drivers in the area reported random shattered windows, but no injuries. several weeks later, 47-year-old john jacoby was gunned down while riding his bike. the small town's first homicide in eight years. shortly after law enforcement announced the shootings were connected, formed a task force and offered a $10,000 reward. then on wednesday night, 65-year-old grandfather and cancer survivor was gunned down while walking near his home. >> there is no positive link between this new investigation and the two other cases being investigated by the task force, but we have not been able to rule out a link either. >> reporter: three attacks in six weeks, the crime scenes just several miles apart. investigators in colorado now counting on the public to help
them stop a killer who they hope isn't just getting started. the desperate man hunt picks up again this morning. investigators say tips from the public have been critical in solving past serial shootings and are offering that $10,000 reward hoping the public will come through yet again. jose? >> jacob rascone, thank you very much. reports coming in this morning involving the indictment of dennis hastert. a sister of a man who died in 1995 has told news outlets her brother had a sexual relationship with hastert when he was still in high school. this is coming from reports by the associated press and abc news. nbc news has not yet independently verified this report. you'll remember hastert was a wrestling coach at a high school in illinois during the 1970s. we've made repeated attempts to get a comment from hastert. as of right now, we have been unsuccessful. lots ahead on this busy
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inarticulately was trying to make a point about foreign policy. problem is, doesn't look good for marco rubio, when this is one of the strengths he's touting as a u.s. senator in a very crowded field and he's also made previous stumbles in talking about iraq specifically. i get the point he was trying to say it's very nuanced, there's a difference between going in and starting to build a whole new nation versus assisting an existing nation in building their democracy. but it does not come across well and i don't think the average viewer understands the difference. >> yeah certainly could be a lot of confusion, but there is a very clear cut difference between going in wiping out the system that's there and creating a new one, or assisting a country and a government that already exists in perfecting their system. >> right. in fact didn't we already do that, nation building in iraq isn't that what the last you
know five to seven years was really about when george w. bush said it wasn't a good idea and they went in and tried to do it anyway? we've done this. this is more about helping iraq keep its democracy stable. >> alex rick perry in his 2011 announcement speech, perry didn't mention iraq iran or terrorism. this time around he spent a lot of time on the middle east. what does that say about how the race is going to be run this time? >> jose there was a really interesting nugget in our may wall street journal poll which says republicans are twice as likely as democrats to pick national security and terrorism as their most important issue. for democrats it's clearly the economy. that's a big change from 2012 when the economy and obamacare were bigger issues for republicans. in a republican primary this time around rick perry is one of the only veterans, along with lindsey graham. he put the plane mind him in his announcement speech clearly playing that up saying he's the guy who can deliver a strong america, strong national
security for republican voters. >> chris christie is in your neck of the woods today, rand paul kasich perry also there this weekend. talk about how new hampshire voters are handling this massive number of gop hopefuls? >> you know on these weekend visits, sometimes we'll get as many as five or six presidential candidates come through new hampshire. i think it's interesting, too, because it shows new hampshire's dominance, especially compared to iowa. there's another huge event in iowa this weekend, joni ernst roast and ride but i think this primary will be the decision will really start in new hampshire in a way that's not had prominence before in the national scene. >> interesting. alex hillary clinton went after gop rivals on voting rights yesterday. first time isn't it she's really called her opponents by name? >> definitely, jose. i've been covering hillary clinton for over a year and this was one of the most energetic
and political speeches i've seen her give and definitely since she announced her presidential campaign. mostly so far she's been doing round tables talking about in the weeds policy but yesterday she went after them by name calling out chris christie scott walker and other governors who have tried to restrict voting rights. this is a very important issue for democrats, something to motivate the african-american vote, something she cares strongly about. her top lawyer on her presidential campaign has already preemptively launched a lawsuit in ohio and wisconsin to try to take on the voting rights cases, so they are trying to get ahead of this before we get close to the general election in 2016. >> alex seitz-wald and sheera from the boston globe, thank you for being with me. >> thank you. coming up could be the largest cyberattack in the history of the united states. so far, it's believed more than 4 million federal employees may have had their personal information hacked possibly by the chinese government. plus areas of colorado cleaning up after some severe
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people started looking for jobs again. ron, good to see you. >> you, too, jose. thanks very much. >> why aren't we seeing better numbers from wall street after the better jobs report? >> the report raises the likelihood the federal reserve will lift interest rates some time this year possibly in september, so we saw a spike in a ten-year note yields up to almost 2.5%. they were at 2.31% at the start of the day. interest rates have moderated a bit, so we're starting to see the nasdaq and the s&p turn positive and the dow, if that's the case can't be far behind. these were uniformly good numbers. not only were the 280,000 jobs created, but the unemployment rate went up for a good reason more people feeling confident enough to look for work and add to that also some upward movement in wages and again, across the board, it was a pretty solid report. >> the wage increase is so slight don't you think? >> 3.6% if inflation is below
2%, you know you're still getting real income gains with energy prices you know holding at about current levels so gasoline is $2.50, $2.60, that's not where it was a year ago, so your purchasing power is going up. any gain at about 0.3 of a percent in wages is deemed to be a solid performance. >> the unemployment among african-americans still high latinos still high especially the young people. i mean that number's what 17%? >> this is a structural issue, jose, with the u.s. economy. one of the fastest growing cohorts in the labor force is still above 55. 65 and over 10,000 people turn 65 every day some of the baby boomers are retiring, but still a push from those our age who want to stay in the work force longer, and the kids are having a slightly tougher time getting in. having said that these situations right themselves over time. we're also starting to see a little pickup in family
formation, more kids getting married, maybe starting to have kids. that's turning positive. that means they are getting into the job market and that too, is a good sign. >> real quickly, how were you about what's going on in greece? weren't able to make their date today. they are saying now the imf has given them to the end of the month. how concerned are you about that? >> i think european banks and others have positioned themselves after 2011 when the greek crisis was at its true height and endangered the european financial system i think that may no longer be the case so i think that the financial institutions that had exposure to greece have reduced it so i think it's less of an issue. it's still a potentially disruptive event, but may not be as big as feared four years ago. >> interesting. ron, always a pleasure to see you. the recovery at sea, tornados and hail and the anthrax scare. let's zoom through some of today's top stories. this morning the capsized ferry
in the yangtze river has been lifted from the water in order to recover more bodies from inside. at least 65 of the more than 450 people onboard have been confirmed dead after a freak tornado they are saying hit the ship on monday. 14 people survived including the captain and chief engineer who have been detained by police. colorado a string of severe weather, including this tornado, is just one of several to roll through the area of silma, about 60 miles southeast of denver. hail also in denver, where many residents had to pull out snow shovels to clear the hail. in missouri an evacuation order is in place due to heavy flooding. storms overflowed rivers and creeks and left many cars and drivers stranded. more rain in the forecast for that area coming up. also an update on the anthrax scare. officials now saying the number of labs which may have received live anthrax shipments by mistake is even more.
more than we reported yesterday. over the past ten years, the pentagon made the shipments to at least 51 labs in 18 states washington, d.c., and australia, south korea, and canada. those numbers could go even higher. coming up if you think elections here can get ugly mexico ballots set on fire violent protests ahead of the midterm elections on sunday. and obeying the rules of the road could mean driving a little faster. have you ever been in the cruising lane the left lane only to get slowed down by a slow poke driver? then there's nothing you can do and the driver really doesn't care. he's going to stay there. one state is about to crack down, coming up next on "the rundown". are overzealous. they even destroy your lawn. ortho weed b gon kills weeds... not lawns. our label says it. your grass proves it. get ortho weed b gon. the label tells the story.
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images from thursday in mexico. it's the capital, flames blazing as teachers continue to clash with federal police demanding reforms and answers on the 43 college students still missing since last september. joining me now with the very latest on the elections in mexico julio, good to see you. >> good morning, jose. >> so how is all this violence that's already started going to have an impact on this sunday's vote? >> certainly, it will have an impact in this sunday's vote. what we have this teacher's syndicate are not happy. they are against the education reform and they have threatened to sabotage voting stations across the western part of the country. that's basically the states so it's not certain if these clashes are going to get worse or more violent, but they have threatened that they will not allow people to go and vote these stations. these campaigns have really been
the most violent ones across the country in the history of mexico. eight candidates have been murdered and 20 officials related to these campaigns have also been murdered in the last months. so there has been no precedent, nothing has been seen like this before in mexico. >> julio, you have the president and his party, they have the scandal, they've got the white house, they call it for the president's wife by a mexican tv network, and yet it seems as though his political party has a pretty good shot at gaining seats in the parliament this sunday. >> yes, that's probably the most ironic part of it. polls suggest that the president will win this election. the president's party will win these elections across the whole country. he will retain the majority in the lower house of congress and that's basically because the main opposition parties are driven by division which is the
right wing party and the prd, the left wing party, are really divided. they are really disorganized so it seems that the president will have a triumph after this sunday, however, it will be quite a bitter triumph, because polls also suggest that the 60% of the people will not show up to vote. >> telemundo news anchor thank you for being with me. >> thank you very much jose. now to the can't over medical marijuana. the federal government has largely taken a hands off approach to the issue and did so again this week when the house passed a bill that would bar the drug from medicinal use. 23 states and washington, d.c. currently allow some form of medical marijuana, even though it's still an illegal drug. but now a dedicated group of families who have seen the life changing benefits they say, of the drug are trying to change the minds of those in power.
harry smith spoke to some of them in a new episode of dateline nbc's special series "growing hope." we got a sneak peek of the show before it airs. >> reporter: three mothers and their children on this winter day in virginia they have a big hill to climb. each child is desperately ill, each has a form of epilepsy. >> no one else that i knew had a kid with seizures this bad and no one knew how to treat it. >> reporter: illnesses so insidious, they have stymied an army of doctors and specialists. >> a year of huge emotional stress on our family. >> reporter: but these women believe there is something that might help something illegal in virginia, an oil extracted from marijuana. what is your hope for medical marijuana? >> to meet our daughter to meet who she really is. >> reporter: to make that happen, these families are
attempting to do something they've been told is impossible. they must change a law that has stood for decades. tonight we'll follow them on a remarkable journey, not only through the halls of government but to the rocky mountains, where people with all sorts of illnesses are seeking help. these people marijuana isn't about getting high, it's about getting well. >> and harry smith joins me this morning. good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> harry, for people who don't understand what this is all about, can you explain how marijuana has been able to help these kids directly? >> it's really kind of amazing. there's a strain of marijuana that's very high in canabidial a compound that seems to be a miracle drug almost. what it's very low in is thc. there's almost no psychoactive properties in this particular strain of marijuana. they've given it to kids with these really severe seizure
disorders and some of them have stopped having seizures altogether. there's a lot of controversy about this, there's enough research done these moms as you saw took to the state legislature in virginia, where's the research where's the research, and what happens so often, especially as we're seeing this rollout, so to speak, of marijuana across the country is it's difficult to do research on a drug that's a schedule one drug no possible medicinal use and viewed as dangerous as heroin. so people want the research but at the same time it's so hard to do because it's still listed as a schedule one drug. >> and for these families the research is the results in their own children. you were talking about in the report that it's the oil from the marijuana. how is it consumed and how do they get it? >> well there's a group called the stanley brothers evangelical christian family in southern colorado that grow this stuff. they have a very highly refined process of extracting the oil
from the plant and the oil is basically administered orally like with an oral syringe. these kids aren't getting high nobody is getting high here nobody is abusing marijuana, which is the fear in many of these states but imagine if you were a family in virginia and you want to get ahold of this stuff, it's illegal to take this stuff out of colorado still. it's illegal to have it in virginia. they don't want to be breaking a law in order to try to do what they can to help their children. >> harry smith, always a pleasure to see you. thanks. >> always a pleasure on my part too. thank you so much. >> don't miss dateline "growing hope" sunday night at 7:00 eastern, 6:00 central. don't miss it. turning now to a storm brewing in hawaii and across the country, really over a new film some are calling racist "aloha" is set at a joint base pearl harbor and leans heavily on the hawaiian culture and language but not in the right way, say
critics who are outraged over the casting of blond haired green eyed stone as a character named allison ing, who's a quarter chinese and native hawaiian. i've heard your words and disappointment and offer you a heart heartfelt apology. critics say this is just the latest in a long history of racially questionable hollywood casting decisions. so what's the impact of this so-called white washing? joining me now is former editor -- founder and editor of the nerds of color. keith, what a pleasure to see you, how are you? >> i'm great, thanks for having me. >> keith, is this just one more case of hollywood just getting it wrong because they don't think it through? >> yeah i mean the interesting thing about the whole "aloha" controversy with emma stone cast as a quarter hawaiian quarter chinese character, is it came out the same weekend marvel
announced tillda swinton as a tibetan mystic. white washing doesn't change in the year 2015. so i don't understand why hollywood doesn't reflect what america looks like. >> well yeah i don't either but it's interesting at least cameron posted an apology on his site a couple days ago, but doesn't change anything does it? >> it's more of like a sorry that you were offended kind of apology. it kind of misses the point that, you know people aren't upset that the character was mischaracterized, they are upset that actors of color were not considered for the role to begin with. for me it's less about the narrative and more about the opportunity for the actors. >> and that opportunity doesn't seem to be changing any time soon. what do we have to do to make things change? >> i think the outcry from the
consumers. we're the people who are consuming these movies and i think if a lesson is to be learned, it's the fact "aloha," as much as we're talking about it, essentially tanked at the box office. the only reason we're talking about it is because of this casting controversy, otherwise it's a failure financially, critically but one of the excuses a lot of producers use is white actors are more bankable and marketable, but those movies tend to not do well either. the last air bender which came out five years ago based on the cartoon where all the characters are essentially people of color, the cast was all white, the movie tanked. but whenever people think, well what about people of color, look at "the rock and his movie trounced "aloha" at the box office. >> any time you put actors and actresses of color on movies they tend to do better it attracts all of us who see ourselves reflected in those movies. >> that's exactly right.
the biggest movie franchise in the world right now is "the fast and the furious," that's a cast full of people of color of all hues. hollywood is slowly getting the message. we'll see. >> keith, how do i become a member of nerds of color? i think i qualify. >> you're already a nerd of color, jose. we're lucky to have you be a part of our little contingency. >> thank you keith. growing every day, good to see you, buddy. up next the push to crackdown on slow poke drivers in the left lane. we're talking some hefty fines here. first, there's nothing fun about a six-hour flight delay, unless you're traveling with a bunch of broadway performers. this is a scene from new york's laguardia airport on sunday when stranded crews from aladdin and the lion king their musicals broke out into an airport singoff. why don't i ever see this? this is great!
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it's one of the most basic rules of the road drive on the right, pass on the left unless you're in england. how many times have you been cruising down the road only to encounter a left lane slow poke seemingly oblivious to the parade of cars behind him, making it impossible for anybody to pass. now in indiana, they are targeting these left lane slow pokes. starting next month, violators could be slapped with a $500 fine. the new law doesn't apply when there's bad weather, heavy traffic, or when exiting to the left. the new law is a matter of safety and will help keep traffic flowing, but critics wonder how police will be able to enforce it. let's see what our next guest thinks, christian, what a pleasure to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> what's your take on this? do you think we need to threaten people with a fine? >> people driving slow in the
left lane it's annoying. lots of things are annoying guys who cross their legs while wearing flip-flops, the music of kid rock but not everything needs to be legislated. i don't know why i have to say this to a republican legislator and republican governor but not everything needs to be a law, you know? >> listen don't you find it incredibly frustrating when some guy's going 35 miles an hour in a 55 miles an hour highway and he's got that lane that you've got the opportunity to get to your home quicker? what does it take my friend? what is it going to take? >> i love the caption, this is going to help with safety in traffic, no people find it annoying. of course i find it annoying but passing a law is like a placebo effect. yeah patting you on the head it's going to be better. it's not going to be any different. the only people happy about this are local municipalities who can find another way to charge you $500. >> this is such a big issue that there are, like online campaigns to support this including left lane drivers of
america. check out this post from one frustrated driver. dear seattle drivers, i'm begging you, get out of the left lane if you spend to go 45 on the highway and not pass the car next to you. do you feel her pain a bit? >> to judy may i call you judy? this woman on the facebook page. >> i thought you were talking to me. call me judy, jose, judy. >> anyone posting on the left lane drivers of america page are you okay? is this a cry for help? do you realize life is finite and maybe there are better ways to spend your free time? get a puppy, fly a kite. maybe that's not the best way to vent your anger. >> life is finite and you don't want to spend it behind a 35 mile an hour person. good to see you. >> thank you for having me. now we're going to switch over, let's head over to capitol hill. joining me now is kentucky democratic senator richard
blumenthal. good to see you this morning. >> good to see you, thank you. >> before we go into some serious stuff, i know you're on the transportation committee. can i get your opinion on the left lane measure or are you one of those people on the left lane going 35 in a 55? tell me the truth. >> when i'm in any lane i consider it a good day, as long as i'm in connecticut. >> okay man, that's the best nonanswer i've heard all day. i appreciate it. let's move into something serious, shall we? this whole cyberattack, we're talking about more than 4 million government employees may have had their personal information stolen. how can something like this happen and what can and should the united states do about it? >> something like this happens literally every day. all around the country, to companies, to other government agencies, there were attempts to intrude in march alone of this year in the veterans administration alone this year 453 million attempts. so we're dealing with massive
numbers of attacks. not to mention the other attempts of intrusion through malware through the va alone more than a million times. so we need to upgrade our cyber defenses and there's money and new authority in the ndaa the national defense authorization act now literally on the floor of the united states senate providing authority for the government, the president of the united states to conduct operations against cyber attacks when they are by nation states and need to upgrade our capability against the criminal attacks ongoing literally every day. >> senator, isn't this in a way an act of war? i mean if another country's coming in and getting sensitive information about american citizens that they could use to destroy the credit rating of those citizens and get a lot of information, isn't that in effect something that the united states should respond vigorously to? >> absolutely the united states
should respond vigorously if it is an act of another state, if it's an act of espionage or another kind of attack on the united states. that's why in the national defense authorization act we provide that greater authority for the president to prepare and conduct these kinds of operations in reaction to it but in this instance although there are 4 million victims here, it may well be a criminal attack not a nation state attack. we need to know more. >> and finally, senator, this measure you cosponsored regarding the defense department paying the nfl to honor american soldiers. what can you tell us about that? >> what i can tell you is $7 million of our tax money over the last three years has gone to the nfl to conduct ceremonies and honor events for our nation's heros, our veterans our service members, which is a good thing, but why should taxpayers be paying for it when
it really is in many instances a ceremony to promote the leagues, not to really honor veterans as a priority. so self promotions ought to be stopped with taxpayer money. that's the measure that senator mccain and i have championed. it's now been added to the bill on the floor of the senate. i hope that measure will be passed, because there's no reason to enrich the nfl with literally millions of dollars that goes to the teams. it goes literally, hundreds of thousands to the teams when they conduct these ceremonies. >> senator blumenthal thank you for being with me. thank you for your time appreciate it. up next american pharoah will make a run at history. 13 other horses have won the first two legs of the triple crown only to fall short at belmont. we'll have more on this in today's five things no horsing around. that's next. your pet... could you love him any more? probably not. but now you can give them even more
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look at that bod. no caption needed right? hello. number five a picture i do want you to see. that would be me riding to some undisclosed location on my favorite toy horse. that was just a couple of months ago. believe it or not, i still fit into those overalls. i have them i wear them. please be sure to catch thomas roberts one-on-one interview with american pharoah jockey victor espinosa and that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. hope you have a great weekend. "news nation" with tamron hall is up next. it's time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. former law enforcement officer laura spalding does a job no one else wants to do cleaning up crime scenes meth labs and horder situations with a high emphasis on customer service and not much competition, she's
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personal information on more than 4 million current and former federal government employees stolen. it includes social security numbers and bank account information. but china is denying responsibility saying this morning, we hope the united states side could discard this kind of suspicion and stop groundless accusation. the latest now from nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell. andrea? >> this is believed to be the biggest cyberattack in u.s. history, targeting 4.2 million current and former employees and could be more. so who did it? most likely it's china. today the government is scrambling after a massive hack into personal information. names, social security numbers, birthdays, for millions of current and former government workers. if proved to be from china, the u.s. would likely retaliate. >> there are all sorts of ways that we can retaliate, both