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a 57-year-old man is in custody this morning following a shooting standoff at a women's health clinic in colorado springs, three people killed including a police officer, another 20 injured. all the details in just a minute. anger on the streets of chicago, as hundreds who are protesting a police shooting while shopping along the magnificent mile. two weeks after a terrorist attack in paris and one week after a gunman terrorized mali's capital city. and ted cruz taking a move to the top of the polls, all that and more is just ahead for you this morning. we're going to start first in colorado springs where the motive in the deadly shooting at a planned parenthood facility is still unclear. three people were killed in the armed siege leading to a five -- hour standoff with police. the suspected gunman was captured alive and questioned overnight.
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authorities have identified him as robert lewis deer of colorado. following the death of garrett swayze. this morning, a police procession led the bodies of the fallen officer and the other two victims from the planned parenthood facility. police are telling the associated press that those inside the clinic hid under furniture and inside locked rooms. those survivors are now beginning to speak out. >> you could actually hear the gunshots going off at the planned parenthood, you could hear them breaking down the doors. >> i'm tired, and i'm angry. you know. i just don't know what possessed someone to be that bad to people he didn't even know. >> five police officers were shot in that attack, they're now
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hospitalized and in good condition. leann gregg, good day to you wand what's the latestsome. >> good morning, richard, the police this morning are continuing to investigate the crime scene and they're trying to learn more about the suspect, robert lewis deer and what motivated him to open fire on black friday at a trstrip mall. the standoff lasted five hours and during that time three people were ill killed and nine others were injured. finally he was able to be talked out of continuing the standoff, he gave up and he said, okay, you win. because of previous threats, planned parenthood already had security measures in place, including a safe room with bullet-proof vests. also the video surveillance allowed officers to track his movement as he roamed about the
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planned parent hood area. the families of the victim also have a chance to mourn together at two vigils. this is not something new to them. in the last month, there was another public shooting. a man was killed in a police shoot-out. an investigation for thissens department could take several more days, it's a comp indicali crime scene, still looking for that motive. >> leann gregg for us live. s police continue to search for a motive in that -- with a documented heft of violence gernls planned parenthood and it's clinics as was mentioned. kristen welker joins us with more on this. >> reporter: richard, good morning to you. it's not leer the gunman was
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specifically targeting planned parenthood. they have been at the center of a fear political fire. and violent attacks over the years. >> the deadly shooting at a colorado springs planned parenthood comes against the backdrop of heated political battle. this summer an activist group released videos which made it seem as though planned parenthood was selling that fetal tissue for profit. the organization's president says the tapes were heavily edited and vehemently denied the claims when she was questioned on capitol hill. >> the threats against planned parenthood based on -- >> reporter: the controversy fueled republicans' efforts to try to defund the organize which provides reproductive health screenings and abortions. the issue has become fodder on
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the campaign trail, republicans lashing out. >> i dare him clinton and barack obama to watch these tapes. >> these planneded parenthood videos are horrifying. >> reporter: hillary clinton tweeting friday night, today and every day we stand with planned parenthood. and planned parenthood and other abortion providing facilities have been the site of valtd attacks in the past, in 2015, a washington state clinic was set on fire. no one was injured. 2013, a man broke into a planned parenthood in indiana and used an ax to damage the facility. and in 2009, a doctor who performed late-term abortions, he wasn't a planned parent hood provider. a chilling history as investigators tried to unravel this latest tragedy. so far there's been no reaction from republican candidates.
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but investigator s underscored the possibility that the planned parenthood was targeted. in chicago hundreds of protesters took to the streets to perform protests there. walking along magnificent mile. charges for that shooting that took place more than a year ago were not filed until this week. the officer indicted for first-degree murder. the city council's black caucus is calling for the police chief's resignation, but he is standing firm. >> the mayor has made it clear that he has my back and if people peel away the onion on what's happening right now in the police world, you're going to find a police department that's doing an exceptional job and quite frankly i will not
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quit on the people of chicago and i will not quit on these men and women. >> adam raeese was at those protests last evening. >> reporter: the protest was generally peaceful, hundreds of protesters walking panned michigan avenue, essentially shutting down michigan avenue, the major shopping thoroughfare on black friday n a very call coup can lated move, groupings of protesters blocked major retail sales. neiman marcus, a number of retail sales essentially blocked, shoppers were unable to get in, shoppers were very frustrated. the main goal of the protests was the resignation of the mayor, many shoppers told me if they's what they wanted, many protested outside their homes, a very frustrating day for
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shoppers, but many people felt the protests was a success. it lasted all day long as they essentially blocked off michigan avenue. wmaq, the nbc affiliate here in chicago ask reporting on the night of the shooting of laquan mcdonald, several protesters went straight into the shooting scene, demanded to see the surveillance video, and there was an 86-minute gap in that video. >> what's next in the case? >> next in this case in terms of laquan mcdonald. there was the settlement with the family, $5 million. these protesters say they might come out again and again until they get what they want and that is the resignation of the mayor, the police superintendent and the state's attorney. many of them, they feel, this was a giant coverup, not only on to the part of the police
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department, but on the part of city hall itself, richard. >> adam reese in chicago. thank you so much for the very latest there. i would like to turn back to colorado for just a moment. police in colorado have released in mug shot of the gunman at a planned parenthood in colorado springs. still no word on the motive behind that attack. we want to bring in this morning's panel. washington bureau chief of the sun times, lynne sweet and anchor on to the blaze, amy holmes. we have been going back and forth between chicago and colorado springs. since we had that report from adam reiss of chicago. this story goes back many years, we have the protests from black friday, we have the laquan
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mcdonald case. we have mayor rahm emanuel. >> the focus is turning more on the cook county state's department, anita alvarez, who took her time, to be nice about it. and no one has to be nice in such a messed up situation. she's up for re-election in the democratic primary next march. she has opponents. so i think the focus will turn on the change that whether happen, which is means that she could be thrown out of office. what we have seen in chicago, voter registration drives, their real beef as they usually are, protests that last, it's a pressure point to send protesters to the economic heart of the city, that is a tactic.
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they end up going to ---rahm emanuel is not going to quit. he was just elected in 2013, there are some who think that not having this incendiary video surface before his election made the difference, some of the protesters against him are the very same people who were the strongest opponents of his. >> right, right. and those demonstrators are saying, where was this videosome why do we have to demand this of this mayor? >> there's speculation that it was deliberately blocked by the mayor's air force office so tha emanuel did not have to face this during his election. >> i'm also a chicago native. i think this will be, before it even gets to a possible coverup at the higher levels. there's going to be a lot of
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attention about what happened in that burger king. it seems as if to the cover-up started, and again, this is speculative right now, started right away, as the other officers a at the scene realized that something terrible had happened. so you could possibly see investigations of many of the other officers who were there. and, you know, if this is this g gap. sometimes that video doesn't work, because they put in very cheap video cameras at the restaurants. but that will be heavily investigated. >> also the police department account at the time of the shooting made it look as if it was self-defense from the reports at the time from the department, so the burger king, by the way, jonathan, is saying their equipment worked perfectly because there was a gap, there was video before and video after. so there a lot to go through
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here, there's plenty of reasons why people are angry. and it does come after a lot of frustration with crime in chicago where you have victims who had nothing to do with the ongoing gang warfare. >> and anita alvarez said, there's plenty of incidents of those before she was doing her job. >> an important backdrop. >> i have to say i was very surprised with the news that this was actually the first chicago police officer who's been charged with murder while on duty ever in the history of chicago. to me it sort of raises questions. we know there are sometimes bad people in uniform. lynne, maybe you can speak to that? >> there's a difference between a murder charge and other things going, i think people ---we're e-which is making a lot of difference on how you can charge
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these things. even in chicago, 16 bullet into a youth who is, i think a little bit past lunging length, even with a knife is something. but the backdrop is we have a 9-year-old who was just killed in a torrent of bullets. there was a teenager who died blocks from president obama's house. you know, two years ago. caught in a hail of bullets in a fight between gangs. >> and speaking of president obama, he was responsible for getting a bill through about police interrogations, but the whole era of video taping and the police force was very much part of something president obama, when he was in the state senate was involved with. >> jonathan, lynne, amy, stand by, we'll continue this discussion in the next hour.
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at least attackers firing rocket into the base early this morning, killing the two peacekeepers and a civilian and injuring 20 others. that attack comes as authorities arrest two men in can connection with last week's attack on a luxury hotel in mali's capital city, where gunmen killed 20
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people including one u.s. citizen. in paris where security will tighten even further in the coming days as president obama and more than 140 other world leaders travel to the city for a u.n. climate conference. that's where nbc's gabe gutierrez is live with more. good morning, gabe. >> reporter: good morning, richard, security is ramping up ahead of that massive climate conference which is set to start on monday, the largest diplom diplomatic event since 1948. since the paris attacks, about 120,000 troops and police officers have been deployed throughout france, as part of the security measures, several thousand of them have been c deployed to the border as there were tighter immigration controls imposed. now here, in paris over the next few days, police are urging
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people not to use public transportation on sunday and monday, even though it's free. but many highways will be shut down, highways going from the north to the south of paris, as well as major boulevards throughout the city will be shut down, so a very major event here, 140 heads of state including president obama are expected here. so richard, as you can approximate expect, security will be very tight, even as this international man hunt continues for those two suspected terrorists. back the to you, richard. >> gabe gutierrez in paris with the latest for us on that beg conference that's about to happen soon. mean while ben carson is in jordan meeting with se ing witi refugees. carson, coming under fire earlier this month when he compared the need to screen refugees entering the u.s. to protecting kids from a rapid dog, fear over syrian refugees
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is widespread with more than half of governors nationwide saying they will not accept them in their states, which could play right into the hands of isis, some are saying. zack beauchamp said earlier this month, isis wants them to be treated badly. the more the west treats them with suspicion and fear, the more it supports isis's narrative. we're joined by editor and chief of fox. and analyst for msnbc. you have written on this quite extensively, you make the case that isis can only succeed if the united states does overreact. what do you consider an overreaction. >> an overrecontactation would
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be to the put 50,000 troops on the ground in iraq and syria for an issue we continue solve. there are basically two issues her, and this is coming from a lot of people who study this issue day and in a day out. isis's prop begaganda is that s is a paradise. when with you watch these huge outflows of migrants in that area, that is a direct hit of isis's propaganda of why that is, that is part of why they hate those refugees so much. but this is going all the way bock to the begins of isis in iraq, during the iraq war, to support backlash against sunni muslims. so they create the problem and benefit from the problem. and the more the u.s. allows
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this fight between east and west, between muslim and nonmuslim, the better it is for isis's propaganda machine. >>. >> i think it is good for the u.s. to do things that make clear this is not a clash of civilizations that make clear that we are open and welcoming to ref yeahs. and i do want to put this out, they're just decent and humanitarian things to do. right now we have taken an incredibly pal try number of refugees. compared to canada, the idea that we're being flooded with syrian refugees is ridiculous when you look at the numbers. but these are people fleeing isis. one of the things i thought is deeply sad and unjust, is that being attacked by isis should make us more sympathetic for those fleeing isis.
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in terms of security concerns, there's more chance of isis coming into the country illegally, than through the legal immigration process. we should be opening our borders to these people. >> as syrian refugees do make their way through europe, that might be a stopping off point before they come to the united states and those from the eu with eu passports would have an easier entry point, what's your thought on that? >> to be honest, there are a tremendous number of ideas about how to best manage refugee inflow and i'm not going to present myself here as one of them. but i think it's worth stepping back and asking about this conversation, whether this would, if you were trying to get into the u.s. to do something terrible, whether this would be something you would go through, when you ear going to sneak into the border another way.
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c custody. three people were killed and nine people are hospitalized and in good condition. ben carson is expected to head back from jordan where he met with syrian refugees. according to to the "new york times," even some of his own advisors say he's struggling to grasp foreign policy. those struggles may help explain his sudden decline this in hey iowa. a present poll shows cruz near the top with donald trump with a significant decline in the numbers there for carson who's now third, who led that poll by the way just last month by 10 percentage points. ted cruz is popular with evangelicals who could win in iowa. he's very better versed in foreign policy, even serving on the senate armed services committee. so is this when ted cruz makes
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his move and becomes the new republican front-runner. johnathon alter, amy holmes. ted cruz showing that he understands the very complex issue, specifically with refugees, is this a way for him to come back with that trip? >> good for him for going, but i'm not sure that grasping foreign policies is the problem for him among gop voters. during the paris attacks, it has a lot to do with whether he looks strong enough the show strength. and ben carson is a soft spoken guy and he has some saber rattling things but perhaps there's not that much confidence that he has what it takes to be
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strong in an international crisis. >> voters have a choice in iowa, as we noted a stronger van jell kl opponent. he came up giving speeches to groups tied to homeschool movement and ev evangelical school movements and it's now coming to the point of maybe no return, you can only go so long in saying i'll get advisors, and this is true for everyone. you do have to show some mastery of the topic. i can't imagine that he would go into an operating room and say let's just figure it out when we get there. >> the front runner donald trump is not a man of great discernity when it comes to these issues,
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but he is saying some tough things that gop voters like to hear. >> donald trump is down in the polls when we talk about iowa. >> i think in this quinnipiac poll, that donald trump and ted cruz are in a dead heat, if ted cruz doesn't win in iowa, he's done. because it's an evangelical state, and his whole notion of winning -- iowa is an organize state, you have 20 go for a couple of hours to these caucus cans, that's why i think trump is not going to do as well in iowa as some people are expecting now based on the polls, it also hurts trump that he's clearly not an evangelical christian, as ted cruz is. ted cruz is beginning to emerge in this race, we're going to be hearing an awful lot about him next year.
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>> what about marco rubio resonate in this discussion? >> marco rubio is a strong candidate because he has a lot of establishment backing, which cruz does not. he called mitch mcconnell who is the leader in the senate, a -- this a man what's disliked not only in the republican party, but in the democratic party. >> ted cruz launched his cam pane at iowa university. i was there to cover it for to the blaze. this was an audience that they liked him and he showed this comfort level in an evangelical environment, speaking to these individuals, donald trump not so much. >> which is the point, politics as you all know is addition, and cruz-rubio have sectors to go for addition. dr. carson doesn't have various pathways, as jonathan side, new hampshire is not an evangelical
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as protesters mitch s marc streets of chicago to protest the shooting death of an african-american teenager. these are princeton students here taking part in a sit in earlier this month at the school president's office. a former american president woodrow wilson on programs and
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buildings that bear his name on what they say is his legacy of racism. woodrow wilson is famous more giving women the right to vote. one area in which president wilson was clearly regressive was civil rights. an entire class of americans had worked their way from slavery into the middle class. but during his term, wilson allowed his cabinet members to seg gate government offices. the "new york times" editorial board writing on wednesday he was an unapologetic racist whose administration rolled back the gains that african-americans achieved during after the civil war. personaled black workers from enflew well shot -- what about george washington, james madison and andrew jackson, four of the eight american presidents who owned slaves in this discussion?
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joining us now is political historian allan litchman. there are those who know that woodrow wilson was simply a product of his time and now we are applying today's values to what was the product of, or shall i say values of his time. >> i don't buy this product of the times argument, there is something to it. but there were many, many people in wood drrow wilson's times wh are challenging segregation, challenging racism, trying to move the nation forward in its race relations. woodrow wilson did a lot for princeton university. he even challenged the old boy power structure there, he reformed the curriculum, he advanced opportunities for catholic and jews, a although not african-americans. as you indicate, he was a transformational president who really moved the democratic party into its present day
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status of being a progressive is party, but you can't shy away from the racism, but you've got to balance, which is why i think the protests what are going on today present a tremendous opportunity for a nationwide discussion about america's history of racism and discrimination, it's ongoing presence, and what we can do about it, if we don't understand our past, we're not going to understand what's happening today. >> allan, so why now, and should woodrow wilson's name be removed as the protesters are asking today? >> i think why today is fairly obvious, because all of the well publicized incidents of alleged unnecessary police violence and mayhem against african-americans. with all the incidents of african-americans remarkably feeling quite uncomfortable on
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american campuses, our heritage has now come up, you can't celebra separate the past and the present, i will in the tell america what to do. butly say, they have got to have an open and sfraning discussion that weighs all sides of it. it's not only more than presidents who -- led the movement to exclude chinese from the united states. alfred nobel, the inventer of the nobel prize, he was an armed manufacturer, a merchant of death, whose arms killed millions of people. >> we have a princeton grad who would like to join the conversation. clearly princeton students saying, hey, we don't agree with this, or a group of princeton students saying we don't agree with woodrow wilson.
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>> certainly they're a group that had a sit in at the president's office, to voice their grievances with woodrow wilson and princeton more generally. but there's been a larger counter protest to those students led by princeton undergraduates saying we didn't like these students tactics, we don't necessarily agree with their goals but we should have an open conversation. that letter has well over 1,000 signatures on it and something in it that was really, how shall i say, sort of poignant for me as an african-american princeton grad, some people have saying this is -- one of the protesters sitting in the president's office, actually said to the president, this university owes me nothing. rather i owe this university nothing, actually she owes that university her acceptance
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letter, the privilege of being a princeton graduate, which she may not know yet, when that's on your resume, it's an advantage over white male graduates of other universities. >> thank you for joining us and giving us your perspective this morning. yif you're one of millions f americans traveling, the midwest ice storm is cancusing a lot of flight cancellations and delays. we'll go to oklahoma city on that. the cold truth is... [coughing]
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paternity leave once his baiby arrives. according to the department of labor, 7 in 10 fathers in the united states who take parental leave take ten days or less. according to the white house council of economic advisors, 29% of men do not even have access to parental leave after the birth of a child. very interesting here, scott, because mark zuckerberg taking a stand lehere and saying we needo level to the playing field here, because the fathers in mixed gender relationships are not able to take the amount of paterni paternity leave that women are. >> first off, his announcement really didn't make a proclamation of that, he said this is my decision, this is what's best for my family.
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but taking a stance that's equal for both men and women is good for dads and moms and families. there's a reason that this is good news for businesses. you can attract and obtain better employees, because of a policy like this. and when you show that employees are accommodated at a time when they need extra help, they're more able to lean into work when work needs them, so there's real downstream effects as well. there's even a stock prays bump when -- >> i could not help but hear you use the words lean in, and that was so famous talked about also in the valley, one example who did take some time off, less than one month, and the reason why i'm moving towards that, does that now release some of the pressure for women always to be the ones that are taking care
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of the newborn. >> right, absolutely, what happens is when dads are previce preside president -- prevented from being dads, by default, everything falls to the mother and that hurts their career and also set up an unbalanced family dynamic where the mom is the -- and the dad is the semidynamic helper. so we want moms and dads working as a team right from the beginning. >> silicon valley not known for being -- will we see other silicon valley companies follow in because as you probably well know, only 10% of executives in silicon valley are women. >> silicon valley has an interesting mix. there's a culture of overwork, of working extremely long hours
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in silicon valley, but they're very progressive when it comes to the family leave and parental time off. so silicon valley is working out what the mix is, in terms of amore -- which would help more particularly working women. maybe this is step one or two in a longer term process. >> give me the next step. the next step would be working on this chronic overwork culture, because it's difficult for people to put in 60 or 70 hours a week when you're taking care of a family. wh working mommings are unable to take that assignment that gives them 60 or 70 hours a week keeps them from getting involved in certain career tracks. so working on this overwork can culture is the next step. and most of us don't have more than 6 or 7 good hours of work
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in us in a given day. >> scott knows me well, i don't work more than two hours and then i am done. i also have a doughnut. scott, thank you very much. very important topic. it's good to see at least some progress there, at facebook specifically. again, author of the working dad's survival guide. another full hour of news and politics that's just ahead, stick around. l business saturda. l business saturda. is more than just a day. it's our day... to shop small at the places we love... with the people we love. for stuff we can't get anywhere else. and food that tastes like home. because the money we spend here... can help keep our town growing. today is small business saturday, let's all shop small. for the neighborhood, the town, the home we love. shop small today.
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ago. also ahead, in europe, a sixth person has been charged in belgium in connection to the paris attacks, it's been two weeks since the massacre that took 130 lives. meanwhile, amid reports that black friday may have been a bust, mom and pop stores are trying to get shoppers to hit the streets and think small to fill their gift list. police have released this mug shot of suspect robert l. deer, she was taken into custody after a five-hour three people were killed in is is attack, nine people were also wounded, all nine are hospitalized and in good condition. joining us now live in colorado
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springs is nbc's leanne gregg. >> reporter: it could take several days just to process the crime spree, they're trying to piece together what caused the gunman to open fire into that planned parenthood, he apparently had an ak-47 type weapon. before the standoff was over, three people were dead, nine were injured. here's what one of the survivors had to say. >> i noticed people until front were going down, and they were saying everyone get down, everyone get down and i heard gunshots, i saw the gunman, and we grabbed the table, we placed it against the door, we sat there for at least up the to fife hours. >> reporter: among the dead, 44-year-old police veteran garrett swayze, along with two civilians, earlier this morning, the bodies of the dead were removed from the crime scene.
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during that time police lined the streets and saluted as the vehicles passed by. because of previous threats at planned parenthood, there were extra security measures already in place. there was a safe room, some of the people went inside and locked themselves in and that possibly saved some lives according to officials. also surveillance video at the facility allowed police to track the gunman as he passed by. two separate vigils will be held later today to honor the victims, one at the church where the police officer was killed was a volunteer pastor. >> with we go to kristen welker, she joins us, i understand we just heard from the president on this. >> reporter: just moments ago, the president released a statement, richard, i'm going to read you the entire statement. it says, quote, the last thing americans slou s should have tor the holidays is comfort the families of people killed by gun
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violence. people who woke up in the morning and bid their loved ones goodbye had no idea it would be the last time. we have no idea what this gunman's motive was for terrorizing an entire community when he opened fire with an assault weapon and took hostages at to the planned parenthood in colorado. what we do know is that law enforcement saved lives as so many of them do every day all across american and we know that more americans and their families had fear forced upon them. this is not normal. we can't let it become normal. if we truly scare about this, if we're going to offer up our -- we have 20 do something about the easy accessibility of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them, period. enough is enough. may god bless officer garrett swayze and the americans he
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tried to save and may he grant the rest of us the courage to do the same thing. so again, president obama extending his condolences while calling for action to prevent this type of thing from happening in the future. richard, to take a broader look at this, to say that the gunman was targeting this particular gunman. the health care provider has been at the center of a fierce firestorm in recent months and violent attacks over the year. >> kristen welker with the very latest and also the statement from the president. i want to get back to our panel. we have with us johnathon alter, msnbc political analyst, lynne suite from the "chicago sun times," we also have amy holmes, anchor on the blaze. now one of the things that kristen welker said in her report, she called it this type of thing. we don't know why this suspect did what he did. this horrific thing. what is this type of thing that we're looking at? >> well, my guess is that one of
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the things kristen talked about is using an assault weapon, which is what obama talked about, we have to do something about the easy accessibilities of weapons of wars on our streets. is so that's one thing i'm approximate guessing that that is on the table now, once again. how this man got the weapon, the trail that led to that weapon is as important an issue as anything right now. >> one thing in the president's statement, he singled out garrett swayze, the officer who died sending a message with all of the incidents that we have in chicago of police officers killing people, that every day somewhere in this country, a police officer gives his life in the line of duty and it's important the keep that in mind, and the president wants everybody to understand that, the other thing that was very striking is that in the past, until the last couple of years,
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when there would be an incident of this kind, either the president or other politicians would go to the gun issue, they would wait until the dust settled, until the fawn runeral they didn't want to be accused of politicizing it. this president in his fourth quarter doesn't care about what the nra and other contribute tuck thes might say, he goes directly to the gun issue to make it clear that this should not be normal in our country, even though in many ways it has become something that's very, very common. so he wants to kind of jolt us out of our kpcomplacency that happens in america. he just doesn't want to say, okay, a another day, another shooting with an ak-47. he doesn't want to do that, let's reopen the debate. >> with all the details available to us. >> which i think is unfortunate and president obama says he
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doesn't intend to politicize these events because he has an agenda when it comes to gun control. he said we need to keep guns out of people who have, quote, no business wielding them. we know in this case that obviously he didn't. but we only know that after the fact. that's why it's important to gather more facts. what do we know about this suspect? did he get the guns legally? does he have mental health issues, did he have members of his family or in his community that knew that he was a danger. this actually reminds me of a shooting in new york city a year ago, police officers sitting in their police car, saturday afternoon 3:00 in the afternoon, gunmen shooting them point blank, in retaliation for michael brown. people who are deraged, who take
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this on as their political ageneral darks even though they're psychotic. >>complicated, i think these discussions always go on. >> it's not complicated, there's too many guns, it's that simple. >> let's take one bite sized chunk a at a time. if you want to get something done, let's break it down. getting assault withins off the street, it's easier than figuring out mental health situations for everyone. >> there's a number of school shootings just in the past few months that have been foiled by surveillance and police officers getting involved with those students, see what a threat to this online -- >> that's what we're talking about, this is why it's so hard, even here on the table. and i think jonathan's with eme. we wanted to talk about one little part of a problem, assault weapons. >> we have to leave it there, we can't obviously finish this discussion on this show today, but we will of course top the next half hour on this very
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story and we can return to it then. thanks the to our panel as always on that. we're now going to get you to the very latest, many of you thinking about how to get home tomorrow from whereveryou're at. there's a lot of nasty weather across the u.s. the timing could not be worse, the weather channel's mike seidel joins us from oklahoma city where it is icy and cold. >> reporter: it is indeed, richard, good morning, freezing rain continues to shellac the roadways, the trees, the power lines, here in the oklahoma city area, more than 46,000 customers are without power on this cold morning, with ice storm warnings continuing until noon. treacherous roads lie ahead for many drivers getting behind the wheel on this busy travel weekend, especially in the middle of the country. four people were killed, driving along slippery roads in kansas. while icy conditions were to blame for several wrecks along oklahoma highways friday.
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and in dallas, historic downpours, 2015 is now the wettest year on record, with over 57 inches and counting. friday alone, they picked up another 3 1/2 inches of rain. the rushing water swallowing up cars, killing at least three. and stranding this sheriff's deputy, who firefighters had to rescue. friday was also a day of records for other parts of the country. it dropped to 22 below zero in big piney wyoming, landers wyoming picked up about 10 inches of snow and close to two inches of rain fell in parts of missouri. after t the weather continues to oversay it's welcome. >> here in oklahoma and across parts of the planes and west texas, look at this, you're going to need an ice pick, this is not going to work, there's just too much ice on these cars and wind shields. turn on the defrost and come back in about 15 minutes or get
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an ice pick. there are 30 million americans under some kind of flood alert today. dallas now has their wettest november on record after a record november and may and october. we need it to creep up another degree to start the melting process, but by and large here in oklahoma city, most of the roads and sidewalks are ice free. >> you are not very good at using an ice scraper as i just witnessed. >> reporter: wow. >> i'm joking, mike. come on. >> reporter: brutal. we're following a developing story this hour coming from mali, there's been another deadly attack, this time on a u.n. base in the northern part of the country. that's next.
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. at least two united nations peacekeepers are among those akilled in an attack on north mali. attackers firing rockets into the base early this morning killing two peacekeepers and one civilian and injuring 20 others. the attack comes as authorities arrest two men in connection with last week's attack on a luxury hotel in mali's capital city, where gunmen killed 30 people, including one american. in brussels, it remains on high alert while they search for two suspected gunmen in the attacks. >> reporter: if it wasn't for the soldiers still patrolling the streets of the city center, down here you would think, or it would lack like that brussels
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has gone back to some sort of normal life. people are out enjoying a rare and beautiful sunny day, and you can see some shops behind us and they are some of the 200 shops that make up the open heir christmas market in brussels. and it was open yesterday despite security concerns. because while the authority and the government lowered the threat terror alert on thursday from the highest to level number three, meaning that an attack is no longer serious and imminent, but still probable, and possible, yesterday, the u.s. embassy has issued yet another statement warning, urging u.s. citizens who are here in the capital of brussels to avoid gathering just like that. so there's a lot of conditions here in brusselbrussels. one thing the president saying it's not as -- still avoid public places, then they open a
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large christmas market that would attract thousands of people here until the end of the year. >> there in brussels as they try to get back to what was before a holiday season and certainly not everybody agreeing with what's happening right now. claudio, thank you so much, live in brussels belgium for us. we'll hear from one of the survivors from yesterday's deadly attack at a planned parenthood in colorado. and next why you may see even more holiday shoppers than you did yesterday. and when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers,
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>> reporter: i think that we can say the black friday trend is actually the busiest shopping day of the year, with nearly one in three americans to be expected to have that's because we're spending our money earlier in different ways. >> long lines, the mad rush. deep discounts. >> all the characters were buy one get one, 80% often. >> reporter: all the markers of a great black friday. >> some tvs and some toys. >> we're going to shop until we fall. >> so why are experts saying this black friday has been a bit of a dud? >> some of those factors that go into shopping on black friday have to do with what the weather is that day, and what the deals are online or even in the store. >> black friday has turned into black november, americans are shopping earlier. >> taking the punch out of friday's numbers. >> so many of these deals have
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been open to the public since the beginning of november. >> mother nature also didn't help. just look at the weather map. gorgeous on both coasts with ice storms and snow in the midwest. all plenty of reason to keep shoppers away from the mall. shopping -- take advantage of the offers. silver lining on a black friday that may have many retailers seeing red. there's no reason these days to brave the crowds if you can find everything online and you can get free shipping too, why would you wait. attention now turns to cyber monday, it's also expected to be a record breaker with $3 billion in online sales. if you do have kids at home, this is actually the day to shop, according to adobe cyber
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monday, you'll get the deepest discounts on toys. i'm thinking drones, "star wars," you got to be careful to buy them before they run out. >> it's like cyber monday, saturday, friday, i think that's where we're going. olivia stearns, think for that. by 2010, local retailers have tried to balance the excesses of black friday, big discounts, but often with big crowds to match, by encouraging shoppers to head out to small mom and pop stores on saturday and sunday. with workers now trying to eat local, people will shop local as well. that message appears to be reason naturing. just to give you an example here, 88 million consumers shopped small on small business saturday. that was up nearly 15% from the year before. joining us somebody that knows a little bit about that, j.j.,
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host of your business on msnbc. we were talking about the cyber versus or the bricks versus clicks, right, but there also this issue of large versus small. on this small business saturday, what are some of the hopes here, j.j.? >> there's with been black friday and cyber monday for many, many years and small businesses were getting lost in this. so six years ago, small business saturday was launched and the idea was to just bring some attention to the small companies, right, those main street businesses, small retailers online, cafes, restaurants and just to tell people, hey, don't forget to support your local businesses. if you don't support them, they're going to go away. >> when we talk about small businesses, this is the interesting part, is that we're not really talking about bricks versus clicks, because many of these small local businesses are now doing what these big box
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businesses are doing and they're now getting minister sales. >> so you shouldn't just think of the toy store on main street, but you should think about the small businesses. >> this is something you talk about a lot. money spent locally, the majority of it stays local. so it helps your own community? >> there are a lot of studies about this, but some of them show that at least three times as much money per dollar stays locally if you shop at a small retailer or a cafe or something small versus a big chain store, so just think about your community and what that means for your community and how that, you know, there's a ripple effect to the whole town that you live in. >> my doughnut store knows i'm a supporter of local businesses, to's for sure. >> hopefully your gym does too. >> they do, as well. j.j., thank you, and of course don't miss your business hosted by jmt j., sundays 7:30 a.m.
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statement that also tackles the issue of gun reform. quoting, this is not normal. we can't let it become normal. if we truly care about this, then we have to do something about the easy access bltd of weapons of war on our streets to people who have no business wielding them, period. now here's the latest from colorado springs for us. >> reporter: when police arrived at planned parenthood in colorado springs, they were met by a hail of gun fire. >> we're getting active gun fire. >> the shooter, who law enforcement sources say was armed with an ak-47 style rifle unleashed round after round of gun fire into a busy shopping center. police took the brunt of the gun a fire, five officers
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hospitalized. 44-year-old garrett swayze and two civilians among the dead. >> all i can say is my heart's broken, this is a really, really tough situation for a lot of people in our community and to the community at large. >> reporter: the standoff lasted five hours, hundreds in surrounding businesses ordered to take cover. police evacuating to the masses between sporadic rapid volleys of gun fire. o. jvj. lacado in his car caughn the cross fire. >> it was horrible, and i saw myers in the mirror, and i thought, my god, he was aiming for my head. >> reporter: as the perimeter to was set up, an unknown number of people in the building. one patient tack cover with others in a back room. >> you could actually hear the gunshots going off in planned parenthood. you can hear them breaking can down the doors. >> reporter: with the sun setting, the gunman fanlly
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surrendered as police hauled him away for questioning, the buildings was searched for explosives. the siege was over, but not before a violent and terrifying standoff. >> miguel alamaguer reporting from colorado springs. donald trump not taking the weekend off from controversy. the republican front-runner is now under fire for seeming to mock a reporter's disable. >> a nice reporter, you got to see this reporter, i don't know what i said, i don't remember. that's what i said. >> he suffers from a congenital joint condition that limits the functionality of his joints. he has denied knocking kowaleski
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not saying what he looks like even though the reporter as -- trump is discrediting his claim that he had witnessed thousands of new jerseyans celebrating after the 9/11 attacks. here's how trump responded in an interview with nbc's george stephens. >> did you misspeak? >> i saw it with my own eyes. >> you saw it with your own eyes? >> george, it did happen, there were people who cheering on the other side of new jersey where you have large arab populations, they were cheering as the world trade center came down, i know it might not be politically correct for you the talk about. but there were people cheering as those buildings came down. >> it's called doubling down and tripling down when challenged on the facts. some credit the trump statements are not examined thoroughly
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enough by the mada. covering trump in general, is msnbc's -- currently off to the campaign trail, some of these you know quite well, this is sort of insult to injury as some have been calling it. what's the latest on the fallout if any right now? >> donald trump's been making statements like this a lot throughout the campaign, one that has gotten him a lot of attention is something about muslims but something he tweeted out about crime statistics involving racial inequality. these are falsehoods that are spread, i don't know whether it's deliberately lying or not. but they're falsehoods that are obviously meant to enforce very bigoted claims about race, now we have the situation where he's mocking a physically handicapped reporter for his disability. trump claims he never met this
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person. but i will say this has been trump's excuse for a lot of things when it's convenient nor him. he kicked out univision, when we asked trump about this, he was saying i have no idea who that is, i don't know this guy, it seemed completely that trump would though who this is, as a very prominent reporter and he said he should go back to his own network. this has a lot of similarities to this. take it as you will, but when trump says he doesn't know this reporter, you have to have a grain of salt attached. >> thank you for to the very latest on that. i want to roadway in syracuse university, the center for popular culture. as benji was outlining for us. it's the statements of untruths, and the question is, why haven't folks said, hey you are lying on
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this, and this of course go into the intent, doesn't it? at to the moment, trump doesn't seem to be seeing too much fallout from it still. reconstructing how the facts don't bear this out. what's interesting is how extraordinarily this does not seem to affect his popularity. there's that old saw about the more popular you are. the more coverage you get. bill cosby got a lot of negative attention but that did not help
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hiss popularity. in so many contexts that even got him fired from the apprentice and the tv contests and it doesn't seem to affect hiss poll numbers. >> robert our panel is here with us as well, we would like to pipe in. >> i think actually this might finally, richard, start to bring in -- it's not going to collapse entirely, because there's 15, 20, 25% of republican voters who are going to vote for him regardless. but in terms of a ceiling on his supports, it's one thing in the republican party to go after mexicans, muslims, you have a demagoguery in that party that's acceptable when it comes to minorities. but most americans have swung they know or someone in their family what's disabled or knows somebody who it's disabled. but he know cow les i can, he knows them well. so donald trump is flat out
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lying in the last 24 hours. i think we look back on it when he doesn't win the nomination, we will look back on in as the reason why. >> we're still in the space where donald trump is able to say these things and the poll numbers are not taken a big hit. >> i think he's still, in preparation of this i saw the trump story, the trump cafe, the trump grill, the trump bar and the trump atrium. >> in his mind, but, the -- i think to play out, jonathan, i
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just think that the only reality that will hit him, i think will be the iowa caucus. and the second thing will be when he has to the start to spend his own money in a significant way, which he has not yet, he has self funded his campaign, mostly. is he going to spend a billion to keep it afloat? >> he doesn't even have a billion. even saying that he's a billonary, a lot of magazines that have analyzed it are saying that's not true. basically you can't believe a word that comes out of this guy's mouth. it's true that because of what's going on in the republican party, he's been maintaining support. he has a floor beneath which he will not go because there are people who will support him no matter what, he will go to that convention with a lot of delegates. but at a certain point, there are norms that when you violate them, and i think handicapped people fit that description. >> the third rail but bullying seems to be working when it
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comes to the media form. >> we'll see after this latest incident. a couple of things that he's really benefits from. a lot of gop voters. what he calls it. i want to get back to robert here. if it's a phenomenon of what temp is saying her, are we towards the end before this ends? >> i think donald trump, he reminds me so much of p.t. barnum, he is really good at this act one of the process he's in. but he's going to have the to
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get to act 2, and i don't think he's going to be nearly as good at operating at that stage of that electoral process as he is in playing this act that he's done so far. >> syracuse university's robert thompson. thank you so much, great perspective and thanks for coming on msnbc this morning. up next, a very different a kind of cam pain that's going on right now, the oscar campaign. a look at why some of the year's best movies will not end up winning the oscar.
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♪my milkface ♪is an elevated state. ♪cinnamon is my soul mate. ♪no debate 'cause it ♪tastes so great. ♪that's why i got milk face. ♪la-la-la-la-la. the academy awards taking place three months from today. and any films that want to be eligible need to be in theaters before the end of this year. and that means many of these potential oscar contenders are already at a theater near you or are heading there pretty soon. joining us is jack rico, owner of showbiz cafe.com.
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because we're talking about three months until the oscars, a lot of these directors, these producers, these-are trying to get into the oscars. >> a lot of it is just pr strategies and overselling your film to a certain extent. it also becomes an election campaign, a political campaign, i remember harvey winestein hiring the services of stephany cutter who is a former campaign manager for president obama in 2013. it was very interesting how he had her not only consult or promote the film or whatever it was, or even to the extent of how can you get your movie into the white house for a screening for president obama? >> why is the pr bump to get the white house to see it? >> because they have already
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exasperated every other part of the campaign, how can we get this to the high errs pours in the country and get them to say something about the film, because that will be a headline everywhere it is. >> how would you break it down, the sales and marketing or it's just a good movie. >> it's 80/20. >> 80% is sales and marketing and 20% is it's a good movie. >> so what are some of the ones that you're watching that might get in there for the oscars. >> there's a lot of movies that we haven't seen yet. the press has seen -- the director who won the birdman, you have joy from david o. russell. but a lot of the ones that people are talking about right now is mccarthy's spot light, which really has survived the
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inspiration in journalism across many people here in america, and that seems to be the top one. i'm not sure if it's exactly going to get acting nominations, probably as an ensemable cast. but the actors are looking at this as is best screen play or best picture. >> there's big buzz at the new movie, of course it's the second movie in a matter of, like, what, four years, and it flopped at the box office? >> probably. i think what happened with that movie is that when you really look at it's all sizzle, the movie should not have been called steve jobs. it should have been called lisa, his daughter, because it's about his relationship with his daughter lisa. >> is the force with you? is it with them? is it going to make it to the oscars? >> "avatar," a science fiction movie went all the way to the -- if it has that sort of buzz and it's technically crafted and
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j.j. evans is very good at what he does, we could probably see it. >> it's a brand note rye fi. jack rico, thank you very much. all right, up next for you, why are hard working producers and they do work hard, they're in the control room and why they may be feeling even more nervous every time we carry a candidate's life event on our air? can a business have a mind? a subconscious. a knack for predicting the future. reflexes faster than the speed of thought. can a business have a spirit? can a business have a soul? can a business be...alive? whfight back fastts tums smoothies starts dissolving
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we're still following the latest developments out of colorado springs. yesterday's deadly shooting at a planned parenthood clinic. president obama just releasing a statement this morning acknowledging the work of law enforcement. quote, we know that law enforcement saved lives. as so many of them do every day. all across america. and we know that more americans and their families had fear forced upon them, end quote. this morning, police released this mug shot of the alleged gunman, 57-year-old robert lewis
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dear of north carolina. three people including a police officer were killed. nine more people injured. and we'll stay on top of that story for you. there's a lot going on in addition to that. let's get caught up with some of the other headlines making news with today's panel. all right, so, "the new york times." i want to go to this first off. all of you are covering the trail. it reads this headline. foul mouthed and proud of it on the '16 campaign trail. this is following trump's lead. republican candidates have evidently grown a little more profane. rand paul dropping a four-letter word discussing the tradeoff between safety, liberty. even jeb bush has been on this as well. they're loving the expletives i guess. >> what the. >> what the. yeah, yeah. i can't see lynn saying that. always been there? >> something new this time? >> maybe it's a way to humanize yourself, to kind of say i'm a regular joe or joan, depending
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who your audience is. it's a short cut. though i think there's a big difference between the words that you have to have stars in a newspaper and just say damn which is what jeb bush did, pretty tame. >> this is all to show i'm growing a pair because isis is a big threat. i'm a cowboy who's going to stand up to isis. part of that is showing that, you know, your language is getting tougher. and also i think they think that will a contrast to hillary. will try to make her -- >> can you see the debate -- >> i was thinking about the debates, exactly, right. >> jonathan i think hit the nail on the head. this is, you know, a contest for ma cheese mow and who has the bigger pair i think is what you called them. >> john kasich, he's asking -- this is something dear to my heart. university of michigan. john kasich asking ohio residents to avoid wearing pleated khakis.
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harbaugh, the coach, loves khakis and he's known for wearing them. also to avoid using the letter m. >> you might as well tell people not to wear blue. >> it's not going to work out well. do you guys have a game you're watching? >> i would just say they're unflattering. >> it's the only way kasich is getting into the headlines with, you know, his role as governor and representing ohio against michigan. other than that, he can't get into the news cycle. >> he's trying to do that by talking about pants. i want to get to this one. fortune magazine. mark zuckerberg and paternity leave. this, about gender equality as well. this is about what the number one career young girls want when they grow up. it's very interesting. 41% of girls now want careers in science, technology, engineering and math. only 32% of boys. in 1989, it was, well, teachers, nurses, flight attendants,
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secretaries. >> healthy, healthy development. women would code. >> women would code. >> that's right. girls who code. >> when i was growing up, math was my favorite supple. oddly, i watched a documentary that made me want to research parasittic diseases. so i ended up in politics. >> i think it's obviously great for women and girls. it's great for the country. but there is a -- kind of a dark cloud underneath it, which is you should have 41% of boys also wanting to go into science and technology and stem areas. what you have now is women outnumber men in higher ed. i think it's 53% of students in higher education are women. the men are falling behind at a very rapid pace. >> right, actually -- >> not adjusting to the global economy. >> the interesting thought here is it could be -- my mother wanted to get into stem like 60
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this morning, a question, why are two schools just nine blocks apart so very different? plus, outrage over 16 shots in 13 months. and the surprisingly simple solution to homelessness. but first, the latest on the attack at a planned parenthood clinic in colorado springs. good morning. i'm

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