tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC May 31, 2016 1:00am-2:01am PDT
due to mature subject matter, viewer discretion is advised. >> america's prisons, dangerous, often deadly. there are 2 million people doing time. every day is a battle to survive and to maintain order. >> down! on your feet! down! >> among theation's most notorious institutions, san quentin state prison. our cameras spent months documenting life on the inside where gangs, drugs and sheer boredom make up a violent mix. this is "lockup: san quentin, extended stay." >> in america's prisons,
violence is a way of life. san quentin, the oldest prison in california, has one of the longest histories of violence. >> there's fistfights going on, there's guys getting beat up pretty good. >> whether it's an inmate fresh off the street -- >> i refuse to get disrespected by anybody. >> a gang dropout in protective custody. >> it happened a couple of days ago so -- >> or an officer trying to maintain order. >> he was going for the jugular but he just missed. >> they've all fallen victim to violent attacks. in the three months we were at san quentin, we saw our fair share. ♪ for the ruler of all evil i pray to god i don't die for the wrong people ♪ >> administrative segregation, otherwise known as ad seg, is a unit mainly reserved for the worst of the worst offenders at san quentin. >> it's a place where they need to be if they need to be separated from the general
population. >> step forward. >> ad seg inmates live in single man cells, are on lockdown 23 hours a day and are handcuffed and escorted by officers for all moves. >> represent [ bleep ] san quentin is my life. >> darrell samuels is being housed in the carson section section of ad seg for an assault on an officer. >> man, what's up? >> don't step on my foot. >> okay. okay. >> hey, hey. be cool. >> yeah, i'm all right. i'm all right. >> i was breaking in cars in the projects back in the days, and i got caught when i was 9 years old, and after that, it's just been hell from then. i kept going to group homes and kept running from group homes, ended up in wiley. >> not worried about the [ bleep ]. caught on a gun charge. went to county jail, got out for
that, got another gun charge, got sentenced to the penitentiary. got out now. i got a violation for access to a gun. never had no positive influence. my influence was the streets. and i thought that was positive because that's all i knew so i'm thinking that is the right way, so i'm going to go that way. that's what i did. >> samuels wants to turn his life around for the sake of his son. he doesn't want his boy to grow up without a father like he did. >> that's my life right there. that's what i got to live for right now. that's what i think about all the time. i want to straighten my life out for him. because i ain't never had no dad. even though my dad would have been good for me, because i knew how he was, he fell victim to the streets. i don't want him to be the same. i don't want him growing up like me. i got to be there for him. i'm thinking right now, i'm not doing nothing right for him. i have to do something for him. people ain't gonna forget, even if i try to straighten my life up. because a lot of people are trying to straighten their life up been living in the same environment. somebody come and kill you.
people don't forget because you're doing good. they don't take away the hurt that you caused people. you can die in your environment, that's what's [ bleep ] going to happen if i out on the street. i've got to leave. that's the only thing that will help me. >> samuels, along with the other ad seg inmates, is given only one hour of yard time each day, most of which is spent talking about what they all have in common, serving time. >> i'm supposed to get out next month. see you next week, right? but since it's an assault on a peace officer, i don't know if they will let me go back or ship me out. i don't know what's going on. my program up next month. >> they have me up for a transfer. i'm just a lonely dude trying to go home to his family. you feel me? >> hell yeah. >> so what they going to do? try to ship you out too then? >> i don't know what they do. >> we don't get no type of respect, no justice or nothing, you feel me? >> not at all. >> i ain't feeling [ bleep ] at all. >> you feel me? that's my little homeboy, little "d." know what i'm saying? pie little [ bleep ]. i can't explain.
you feel me? it's just, you know, we have a lot in common. that's just my young dude. we both came from the same area, we have the same upbringing. we got the same traits and everything. you know, he's different from the rest, man. i'm thinking if he had the perfect opportunity, he'd excel better than a lot of others. >> while interviewing inmate scott, a fight breaks out on the basketball court, and in the time it took us to turn around and capture what happened, like most prison fights, it was already over. >> lay down. >> i been talking good about little d. how did he get into a fight?
>> sergeant thompson and his investigative services unit arrives on the scene to piece together what just transpired, and although it appears that samuels is the aggressor, both he and the injured inmate will be investigated over the next few weeks and possibly brought up on battery charges. >> have we confirmed it was weapon or not a weapon? do we know? >> last word now is that it was not a weapon. >> blunt trauma, right hook? all right. >> these two guys got into a fistfight right over here. and supposedly the victim was knocked out for a few seconds. >> if charged with battery on an inmate, samuels could find himself stuck in ad seg and adding up to a year on his sentence, meaning more time away from his son. >> yes! >> drop it! coming up next on "lockup: extended stay," an inmate is battered inside protective
custody. >> we believe he may have been the victim of a battery. >> and now his life is in jeopardy. >> i just don't feel like saying nothing, you know? >> what is this working for? >> this right here. >> and later, a gang dropout reveals weapons secrets to an officer. >> plastic bottle, grab it, pull it, pop it, and it will shoot out of there at a velocity.
it's an area where inmates can be housed because of safety concerns. they are called gang dropouts, identified by the inmate population as informants, have sex crimes in their past, things like that. they still have that predatory mentality, just being a protective sensitive needs type guy doesn't make them a good guy. there's absolutely gangs in sny. there's fistfights going on. there's guys getting beat up pretty good. >> i have sufficient grounds to keep you in ad seg. >> gang expert lieutenant munoz was called in to check on an inmate after he was attacked in his tier at sny, most likely a gang-related attack. >> we believe that you may have been the victim of a battery, and until we find out who the assailant or assailants are, okay, you're a jeopardy to our security. >> okay. >> all right. >> we place him in segregation for his own protection until we find out who battered him. it's got to be more than one person.
because of the numerous bruises he had and the two black eyes, it just appeared to me, it would have happened outside of the cell where he would have been assaulted in a blind spot. >> lieutenant munoz must investigate the incident despite lack of cooperation from the victim, who fears being labeled a rat. >> i'll get out sooner or later, you know. it's easy to find out. i just don't feel like -- i just don't feel like saying that, you know? >> at this point we have no knowledge as to who did it or why. you go from one gang, as a dropout and you form another gang. so it just doesn't seem to end. >> these people in here, they want you to do something for them. i'd rather just take care of mine, handle my business, see my family one day, you know? >> when you come to prison, it's still our obligation to protect you no matter what. you know, the department's view about gangs is to disassemble,
get those individuals to drop out, tell on each other, because we gain better control of our population. it's an ongoing process that never stops. >> let's go, gentlemen. come on. let's go. >> i'm in protective custody because i'm a dropout. dropping out means telling. it means you gave up everything you had to give up to secure a place over here. if you try to fake a debrief, they'll know about it. and then they'll just put you at the back of the list and you'll have to wait all over again and that's probably another five to six to seven years because people are dropping like flies. there's a lot of people just like me. i mean, we're involved in drug trafficking, we're involved in assaults, we're involved with any type of violence you can possibly think of in prison. i was that bad ass, too.
and i wanted to be, so my hand was raised for anything. anything meaning any type of business that needed to be taken care of, my hand was up for it. my tattoos, i have a lot of them. i have some that actually are hits inside of prison. lightning bolts are for hits on the inside of the left arm. like these right here are a hit on like a black or a mexican. >> how did you get those? >> i stabbed somebody. i got a swastika on my stomach that i did another hit. i tried to cover it up, actually, after i dropped out. that was for somebody at high desert, i stabbed a crip at high desert. that sends a message that you probably don't want to mess with that individual because you're supposed to get whacked too. >> listen up, section williams, kirkpatrick, two alpine 24.
>> since dropping out of his gang in '99, , speedy has been charged with two separate counts of in-cell violence, stabbing one of his cell mates several times and cutting another one's throat. >> 14 months. >> probably. >> that's the biggest one i've had since i've been here. >> speedy is meeting with counselor gray to discuss a possible transfer and his behavior. the sessions are standard procedure for all protective custody inmates. >> you know you have life. so you have a life sentence now. you have 234 points. >> it went down. >> so then just the life of crime start escalating. still level four, and you have your mandatory score of 19 that still will stick for your life sentence. use your disciplinary while you're in here, down on your program, period, will be good because you don't need any
other, you know, disciplinary problems, because you know that just adds up. >> what was my last write-up? do you have it in here? my 115? that was -- >> it was in 2002. have you done anything recently? >> no. how about before that? >> you have a string of them. i don't think we should go through all of that. >> there's a lot, though? huh? >> yeah. >> okay, all right. >> all right. >> thank you. >> in the past five years, speedy has refrained from any acts of violence and changed his outlook on life in prison. >> debriefing, going through that whole process, is my reward to come back into what we would call society, our society here. and this is great for me. it's the only thing i've got coming. i had to go through a whole hell of a lot to get here.
>> so what's up? >> zero, zero. >> when i met him, i just knew he was racist, right? so i kind of like was going to get him but then the type of person he was, whatever had him like that, an angered white male, he grown a lot. speedy ain't like that no more. know what i mean? he's got life. he basically has to fight for his to get back. next on "lockup: extended stay," officer deed investigates the fight on the basketball court. >> i want to tell you that it was self-defense. >> and speedy shows how plastic coffee lids can have more than one purpose in prison. >> i'm making a weapon right now. i've got to get it all this way right here.
>> drop it! >> officer deed is the investigator who will talk with the inmates and determine who started the fight. >> we have certain behavior patterns that inmates must abide by according to the title 15, which is given by the director. and when they violate this, i have to write a written violation report 115, once it's written, the inmate is logged, inmate is served and heard by the hearing lieutenant. i'm serving inmate edwards a 115 and inmate samuels a 115. they had a fistfight on the yard friday, the 30th of march. they've both been charged with battery on an inmate because one inmate received serious injuries. oh, it's a serious 115. it's an a-1 offense. this is a serious 115. they could lose up to a year of credit earned. where's jamie at? when i go up there, i just talk individuals like i would talk to you right now.
we're going to serve this man his paperwork and see what happens. >> you want it right now? >> officer deed, this is officer carson's section. i have a 115 for you for the fight you had on the yard the other day. charged with battery on an inmate with serious injuries. it's a d.a. referral offense. and if you're found guilty of that, it carries a maximum forfeiture of 360 days. okay, being that you're in lockup, you have the right to have an investigative employee. okay, if you have anybody you want to investigate it -- >> anybody on the yard, they seen what happened. i don't know their names. that's what i'm saying. if you could find out for me, i don't know their last name. they will tell you it was self-defense. >> what i'm going to do, i'm going to get the log, see who was out there that day, ask them the questions you want me to ask them. was it self-defense, did he swing on you first, is that what
you want me to ask them? >> that it was self-defense, he swung on me first. >> he swung on me first. >> the whole yard seen it. >> i will give you a copy of the report once it's typed. >> all right. >> all right? >> all right. >> see you in a little bit. what i'm going to do right now, right, i have to get the yard list from the officer so i know who to question and i'll go ask these individuals per inmate samuels, right, did the other inmate swing on him first? >> friday was the 30th. right here, willie. >> just give me the house and the name. >> officer alejos locates witness names in the yard log. there are five inmates officer deed must question. >> thank you. >> all right, willie. >> due process. a man, he has that right. he has witnesses to be called right here.
he has the right to tell his side of the story and present witnesses like we would do in court. same thing. going up to the hospital. second floor. >> before officer deed meets with samuels' witnesses, he visits edwards who's still recovering from the incident in the infirmary. >> edwards, i'm officer deed and this is officer carson and i have a 115 for you for the fight you had on the yard the other day. it charges you with battery on an inmate. okay, this is a division a offense, carries a maximum time of 360-day forfeiture of credit. >> it says here that i harmed somebody. who did i harm? >> the individual you were fighting with, supposedly fighting with. >> is he in the infirmary? >> no, he is not. >> i see. >> do you want to have an investigative employee, want anybody investigating, want anybody making any statements? >> no, just the employee working that day. >> he'll be at the hearing then. >> see what he saw.
>> do you have any questions? >> no. >> all right. >> thank you. >> hey, jamie. what happened was, man, i went on to see edwards, right? >> up at the hospital. >> at the hospital, yeah. doesn't look too good. worse for wear, yeah, he got facial lacerations. the only person he wanted at the hearing was reporting officer gunman, that's the only person he wants there. he doesn't want nobody investigated. so that's it on that, however, samuels wants somebody investigated. so i'm going to go up there and get these guys out on the tier, right? >> 227. >> 227? >> oh, yeah. >> samuels is up there being charged with battery on an inmate, right? and he wanted me to ask you what did you see? >> i didn't see nothing. i was on -- all i seen when i looked to the side, all i heard was :officer get down," and the
dude was already on the ground. >> you didn't see anything at all? >> i didn't see nothing at all. >> all right. remember that fight on the yard last friday? >> what about it? >> inmate samuels upstairs has been charged with battery on an inmate. he said that you was on the yard and he wanted me to ask you, what did you see? >> i seen a dude hit him. why? >> okay. what dude hit him? >> whatever dude. >> the other one, edwards? >> yeah. the one on the ground. >> the one that got knocked down? >> yeah. >> okay. mr. powers, come on, dog, let me talk to you for a minute. so he's the one that was aggressive? he was aggressive? >> yeah. >> that's it, dog, thank you. all right, jamie. i went upstairs, investigated five guys up there now. >> talked to 27? >> yeah, talked to 27. >> what did he say? >> he said he didn't see anything at all, however i've
got about three individuals that said edwards swung on samuels first. >> that's right here, too, he was the aggressor. >> he was the aggressor. >> samuels is probably the one charged with grave bodily injury because he -- the injury that edwards suffered, he got knocked out. >> although the evidence leads to self-defense, samuels could still receive an additional year on his sentence if found guilty. >> it's not the first time edwards had been aggressive out on the yard. a couple of times they tried to stop him from fighting. this time he wouldn't listen. >> he thought he was a big, tough guy out there. he ran into a buzz saw. >> yeah. that's what happened. >> that's what you call yard justice right there. >> that's it. coming up next on "lockup: extended stay" -- >> we got 24 hours to stay ahead of you. you only come here for eight hours. >> speedy demonstrates for an officer just how easy weapons are made in prison. >> go into somebody's heart. pop a jugular vein.
>> cramer. rodriguez. ♪ ♪ >> 44. >> now. >> 44. >> you hear those whistles and you hear those officers yelling, you know it's not a false alarm. >> call him in, will you? code four. fistfight. second tier landing. >> an alarm sounds in the sensitive needs unit after yet another fistfight breaks out on the tier. >> take yours down first. >> swing your feet around. swing your feet around. >> i heard a whistle and responded to the second tier landing south block. and found the inmate laying face down. the ofcer said he had just been in a fistfight. >> i knew i had to get out of the way.
>> see you guys. >> i then proceeded to take him down to get medical care for his injureded and now being placed in a holding cell in donner section, probably going to be one of our newest arrivals in administrative segregation. >> you got an escort coming in! >> what is becoming the protocol for these violent incidents in sny, both the attacker and victim are moved to ad seg. >> got into an altercation with another inmate coming back from the chow hall. he sucker punched me in the head on the way back. there's not supposed to be any gangs in the prison in the pc. something that they've overlooked, i guess. >> after 21 days, you'll be moved next door to carson section. that's where you'll spend the remainder of your time in administrative segregation. but you'll have icc next [ bleep ] and i'm going to get
you orientation packet to tell you all the rules and regulations of this unit. >> the segregated population is anything but welcoming to an inmate they assume has snitched to gain protection. >> there you go. >> that's the golden rule in the state penitentiary, don't ask me [ bleep ], i don't tell them. be a man, respect yourself. they're going to feed him to the wolves. they're going to feed him to the wolves. he's a lamb chop. yeah. [ bleep ]. >> they're probably getting interviewed. your brother's going on tomorrow. >> without the nazi low rider code of honor to adhere to, speedy can work with isu. even as a dropout, he is blatantly breaking gang ranks by helping officers gather intelligence, working directly with officer morales, who he has known for four years. >> hi, speedy. >> i think to myself as giving something back.
if it's saving somebody from getting hurt, then that's cool. that's all right. >> i brought you in today because i want to actually kind of get more insight on gangs, weapons, how they're made. because i know every step we try to take, you're always one up. >> exactly. we've got 24 hours to stay ahead of you. you only come here for eight hours. so you got to step up your game to keep up with us. >> what is this working for? >> this right here is a plastic bottle, a pepsi bottle or something that you buy off the canteen. you take a rubber glove that's accessible all over the place, put it on the end of the water bottle with a rubber band, tighten it down, and then take a projectile, whatever, a pill or a piece of metal, anything hard, put it inside that, grab it, pull it, pop it, it will shoot
out of there at a velocity. >> part of speedy's intel involves showing officers how easily weapons can be made. in this case, the plastic lids of coffee cups. once melted by the heat of an ignited roll of toilet paper will transform into a potentially lethal shank. >> i'm hardening this plastic right here. you see how it's folding down like this? what i'm doing is i'm trying to get a little wad of it to where i could -- i have a little something to work with. know what i mean? so what i'm doing right now is i'm molding. this is like playing with clay. only it's plastic. i'm making a weapon right now. i'm making a weapon right now. i'm melting this plastic down into a shape, and what i'm doing is -- is i've got to get it all to this way, like here. and once i get it like this,
i'll show you. >> just i think it amazes me how fast it can be made and sometimes who it's used for. sometimes for us, sometimes for another inmate. >> you got to have air go into the bottom of this thing or else it will start smoking real bad. then temper it here. let it get into the cold water because it hardens it. makes it stronger. look it. that is what you're trying to come out with. and what we do here is you can either put a tip on it right here, sharpen it down on the concrete to where you'd have a piece that -- and it's actually -- >> in a matter of minutes. and this wouldn't even be detected in a metal detector at all. >> no. >> that could get to the yard real quick. real quick.
use it, throw it, flush it, you're done and over with. >> you could go into somebody's heart, pop a jugular vein, hit, take an eyeball out. >> and then you clear the evidence. >> then you clear the evidence and your work station is clean. >> no detection. next on "lockup: extended stay," whether you're an inmate doing your time -- >> i did everything i could to avoid the situation. >> -- or a veteran correctional officer. >> he was going for the jugular but he just missed. >> your life is constantly at risk in san quentin.
tensions run high a lot in prison. there are confined quarters, and they only have a limited amount of exercise. >> they're so used to it, you just, you know, it's just fight or flight. >> when he stood up, he knew what he was doing, and he got hurt, though. >> one of the guys got a little out of hand, and the other one decided he was going to check him, and they had the fight. >> with violence so ingrained in prison politics, not even the promise of being released can prevent an altercation. >> was supposed to be released monday. i did everything i could to avoid the situation. i did everything i could. when people say certain words in prison, punk, bitch, lame, things like that, it's an automatic fight word.
it's hard to explain to somebody not in the prison system because most people are like, i don't care, one day i'm walking away no matter what happens. but it's not that easy all the time. i wish it was. >> i had to do what i had to do. sometimes it goes like that. >> both inmates involved in the fight are brought in front of the icc to discuss the incident. >> this was not necessarily a real simple case of a fight in prison. essentially it was a black inmate and a white inmate that got into a fistfight in the dining room. and 99.9% of the time in a prison setting, that's a keg of dynamite. >> so mackey was placed in administrative segregation on march 11th. he's being charged with a mutual combat with an inmate. as of current he has a pending 115, however, the 115 states he's actually being charged with a battery on an inmate.
>> what precipitated this? >> he stood up. >> okay, so you reacted to what you thought was a threat? >> yeah. >> okay. we're going to put you on walk-alone right now until we get you through this 115 because we're not sure exactly what's going on with you, and we're not going to go into the charges here. do you have any other questions about that? >> no. >> okay, man, take care. >> i'm not believing too much that the guy just stood up and he felt threatened. >> right. >> correct. >> i'm not interested in hearing the 115. what kicked that off? >> disrespect. >> okay. just between you two? >> yeah. >> okay. we're going to keep you in ad seg right now pending adjudication of that 115. okay? i'm going to put you on walk-alone yard while you're over there.
okay? you understand all that? >> yes. >> okay. take care. >> thanks. >> with the potential of a lengthened sentence, lysloff realizes his actions carry even greater consequences. >> my son's 3 years old. his name's damian, and if i could do anything for him right now, it would be be with him. i'd want to be with him. you know? for him to know that his dad loves him and is there. and he is loved. he's got his mom. but nobody takes the place of a dad. my decisions affect him. he doesn't deserve for his dad to be here right now. stupid fight affects a 3-year-old, and that was my choice, and that's what makes me mad.
>> in the time that officer alejos has been a correctional officer at san quentin, he has witnessed his fair share of prison violence and has been on the receiving end of it. >> i've been stabbed. i've been sliced. back in columbus day of 1988, about 9:40 in the morning, i was working the adjustment center and running showers on the first floor right there and took the inmate to the shower, uncuffed him and turned my back, and he was going for the jugular, but he just missed. i got taken to the hospital here. they took me out and stuff like that. and i think it was like 35
stitches and 2 plastic surgeries, so i was furious. i wanted to get back at inmates, i wanted to kill inmates. i wanted to get them back. but i didn't. they're not worth doing time over. they're not worth losing your job over. it's not worth it. >> even though alejos is a veteran officer, every day at san quentin is unpredictable. his survival tactic has been never to show fear. >> it's like the law of the jungle, only the strong survive here. and if they see, that you're afraid, they'll eat you alive. so you never, never let your fear show, never. you have convicted felons here for murder and for rape. we got level fours here that you don't know, in a split second, a level two could be a level four and, you know, they could stab you. they could stab someone in front of you. and you respond to help them and, guess what, you get stabbed too. >> in such a chaotic environment the camaraderie among officers is vital.
they rely on each other for backup as they risk their lives every day. >> i love this place. i really -- it may sound sick, but this is my job. this is a career. i guess it chose me, you know. you build some great friendships with the officers here. >> ten pounds of cocaine wasn't mine. it was yours. you had it keistered, remember? you got an environment where your life depends on someone else, and someone else's life depends on yours. so it kind of makes you a lot closer. it really does. you appreciate each other more. coming up next on "lockup: extended stay" -- >> you were right there on the wall. >> yeah, i know. >> it could have gone either way. >> i know. >> the investigation into the fight on the basketball court concludes, and darrell samuels is given the verdict. >> you change your own destiny, so you've got to stay out of trouble.
they're all dangerous. they are all very dangerous up here. that's why they've been placed in administrative segregation. they've assaulted inmates, they've assaulted staff. >> there are more than 900 correctional officers at san quentin state prison, nearly 200 of whom are women. officer mannix is one of them. >> hi, miss mannix. >> hey. >> i'll see what i can do and let them know that you're still here. >> okay. >> okay?
>> all right. >> all right. >> being a correctional officer, i'm at work and that's full time when i'm there. when i'm home, i'm a full time mom. >> here, john, you want to help out? >> it's been 12, 13 years. and she's had a couple of minor incidents, but for the most part, you know, it's a job. >> i thought only guys were prison guards for the longest time. then i heard -- my mom said, yep, i'm working at san quentin. i'm like, really? i thought that was only a guy thing. >> i got to go upstairs and change. >> okay. >> all right. >> i'm proud of her. that's basically it. >> she does good at whatever she does. >> yeah. >> i respect what she does because it takes a strong woman to do that. >> not everyone gets it. and i think honestly a lot of people don't want to know about prison, you know. it's just kind of part of society that people just don't want to know about. >> all right, babe, i'm going to go. >> okay. >> give me a kiss. love you. see you later.
all right? all right, bye. >> there's a bit of fear, but, you know, you kind of deal with it. you know, and her being a woman, other things come into your mind. so, scared, yeah, you know, some days. >> it's supposed to rain next week. get the sunshine while you can. you expect monsters when you come into prison, and they're not. they look like your neighbor, and a lot of them are very young. all these guys have parents, and nobody has a kid thinking, someday you're going to go to prison. >> every inmate is like a snowflake, everyone's unique and different. that's the way i look at them. and you got to approach and handle each one differently. you can't approach the same one and do the same thing with each one. sometimes you have to go up there and yell at them like they're a little kid. you got to say you're sorry to
people, okay? you didn't mean to do that. it wasn't you, it was your other twin. all right? >> sure. >> turn around. >> sometimes you just talk to them like man to man. >> do me a favor, just hang out here, don't make no noise or kicking, i'm going to make a phone call right now. they know it's about you. >> and every approach don't work. you got to use different approaches for every inmate. >> it's my job, i'm here to protect and serve. you know, if an inmate has a problem, our job is to -- we're trained to, you know, defuse the situation. and that's what we're trained to do. >> the warden has made a special trip to the carson unit today to recognize officer alejos for his skillful handling of challenging inmates. >> when i came back to san quentin, i remembered from my previous life before i retired, there was something called superior accomplishment award, okay, and basically what that is is you get to give somebody a check, you give them money when they stand out.
the first one of these that i'm going to give out is to somebody here. of course, it's jamie alejos. >> yay! [ applause ] >> thank you, warden. thank you very much. >> no, thank you. >> oh, you're welcome. >> i mean, you know, i've known this guy for over 25 years, and he's the same now as he was then. a little grayer, a little grayer. i wanted him to be the first one to get this to recognize all of his years of dedicated service. but also because he takes his job as seriously as you take yours. he realizes, as you do, that we're responsible for the health and welfare of these guys. >> you're as strong as your weakest link, and together here as a unit, we all work together as one, which makes a strong unit. i couldn't do this without these guys right here, especially with lieutenant fuller and sergeant lee. [ applause ]
>> oh. >> he's still not getting more hours. >> the fight investigation in ad seg found both samuels and edwards guilty of mutual combat. samuels has moved to the reception center and is awaiting transfer to another penitentiary in the coming weeks. there he will serve out the six months remaining on his sentence. >> that was on the yard. they were playing basketball. edwards was getting kind of rough with samuels, right, he didn't like the way they were playing, didn't like what was happening to him, so he just swung on him and tried to hit him. from there the fight ensued. he was looking at getting 360 days. credit for this incident, but since it got reduced down to a lesser offense, mutual combat, he received 61 days, which he was satisfied with. >> after working out in the
yard, inmate samuels meets with counselor woodford to review his case and plans for the future. >> go on in. >> there was a concern about giving you that break because you were right there on the wall. >> yeah, i know. >> it could have gone either way. >> i know. >> and the only reason you got that break is because the lieutenant said, i believe this kid can turn it around. don't disappointment me. you change your own destiny. >> yeah. >> so you've got to stay out of trouble, okay? >> i'm trying to do my time, not starting no trouble. what it is is, i'm trying to learn how to walk away from it. that's going to be hard. things happen. around a bunch of men and we all got our own issues and stuff happens. >> samuels' behavior inside prison determines the length of his stay, but with little education and no plans, it's going to be a tough road ahead. >> i haven't been in school since the fifth grade so -- >> you've been locked up since
the fifth grade. >> in and out of jail. >> youth authority. >> youth authority. >> right into the adult system. okay. so what are you going to do with a fifth grade education? >> i mean, to be honest with you, i don't even know, whoever will hire me, i have to get a job, or i'll keep getting violated. >> based on your history and based on where you're at and your recent behavior, you're not in a position where you're going to succeed. you need a plan, and you need to be a realist. you need to change some things. and we've talked about this. >> yeah. >> if you don't change it, i'll see you soon. and that's just the reality of breaking that cycle. it's a vicious cycle. okay? you ready to go back? >> all right.
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