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attracted so much protest. i hshould tell you when the trup transition announced that tmp favors the completion of that pipeline, they also said he sold off his energy transfer partners stock. maybe he has. i'll tell you when i see his tax returns. he is also reported to have held stocks in phillips 66 and a number of others. so there is still a conflict of interest between the president-elect and that pipeline as long as he still holds his assets and doesn't divest himself of his business holdings and his stocks. coming up, lawrence o'donnell will have a live report from standing rock. >> it's really great now that the campaign is over. weploy some of the assets to north dakota. i have been telling people all those satellite trucks had been
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out there on the campaign trail. this weekend is a big weekend. we will be having some reports. so finally, finally, donald trump has gone too far, and a republican has stepped forward to object. and that brave republican who has stepped forward alone, among republicans, is the very last person you would ever have guessed would turn against donald trump, would go rogue. hint against donald trump. but it's not about taiwan. not a single republican objects to what donald trump has done with taiwan, and every single republican would be objecting today if a democratic president-elect had done what donald trump did today. >> trump broke with 3yea7 years
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policy. >> one of the most radical shifts in foreign policy. >> likely to infuriate the chinese. >> he's not taking as we can tell most of his intelligence briefings. >> since our victory, i've spoken to many foreign leaders. >> a conversation with the filipino president. >> he should be fully briefed by the state department. >> he cannot conduct himself in this immature and undisciplined way. >> donald trump is going to say something off the cuff that could be a real problem on an international level. >> are republicans going to say cut it out? >> he definitely called you infective and disloyal. have you patched it up in. >> yeah, we have. we're fine. >> paul and i have become, you know, very close i think. >> and now we're all saddled with a guy who's thoroughly incompetent and in over his head. >> he has chosen a retired marine general whose nickname is "mad dog." so sleep well, america.
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donald trump did something today that president obama has never done. that president clinton never did, something that neither of the presidents bush ever did. ronald reagan never did it, but today donald trump decided to do it. the president of taiwan called him, and donald trump took the call. the financial times reports the telephone call is believed to be the first between a u.s. president-elect and a leader of taiwan since diplomatic relations were cut in 1979. there is a potential conflict of interest with this one. according to taiwanese media, the trump organization is reportedly considering expanding into taiwan. of course. the times reports the white house has not, was not told about mr. trump's call until after it happened.
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according to a senior administration official, but the potential fallout was significant the administration official said. emily horn, a spokesperson for the national security council issued this statement tonight. there is no change to our long-standing policy on cross-strait issues many we remain fully committed to our one-china policy, our mission is in peaceful cross-strait relations. of course they defended the conversation in a fweet, saying the president of taiwan called me today to wish me congratulations on winning the presidency. thank you. obviously, understanding nothing about the situation, donald trump seems to think that receiving a call from the president of taiwan is totally different thing from placing a call to the president of taiwan. and even now, there's some dispute in questions about who called who.
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and we also learned from the philippines that donald trump has spoken with the president of the philippines today. rodrigo duterte, who has called president obama, quote, a son of a whore, end quote. president duterte is the craziest and possibly most dangerous-elected president in the world as of now. his vile words about president obama were about president obama expressing concerns about human rights in the philippines. president duterte's staff made the phone call public, indicating that donald trump invited president duterte to the white house next year. the atlantic's james fellows tweeted today. it is hard to overstate the
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bottomless pig ignorance and recklessness of donald trump's phone call with the president of taiwan. joining us now is james fellows, national correspondent for the "atlantic." you have more room here than a tweet, james, to react to everything we now know about the taiwan call many. >> so i think it's worth saying there are two possibilities here. each of them is bad. one possibility is that donald trump did not understand the significance of what he was doing. he didn't understand the sense of time of richard nixon, gerald ford, jimmy carter for whom i worked and then through the democratic and republican presidents alike, there's been a carefully negotiated protocol of how we deal with the separate entities of the republic of china on taiwan and china on the main land. we essentially say they are one country. presidents of the united states
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do not talk directly to the presidents who have been elected by the people of taiwan. so maybe he didn't know that. or else he did know that. in which case, he decided just with no preparation, with no apparent briefing, with no nothing, to reverse a policy that's been firm u.s., you know, doctrine since the time of at least ronald reagan and where he has his own commercial interests too. so he didn't know what he was doing, or he did know what he was doing. take your choice. they're both bad. >> and does he have advisers around him who want to see some kind of revival of a direct relationship with taiwan? >> certainly there's been news in the last couple hours since this phone call in the news about it of some of his staffers who have been pushing a more active taiwan relationship and, again, the news about his own commercial dealings there, about this hotel project that may or may not be going through. i think this is illustration number 5,000 of why his commercial holdings just become this ongoing conflict of
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interest, because every aspect of u.s. policy around the world has some bearing on his personal property. so one way or another, this needs to be resolved too. >> take us inside as best you might imagine at the chinese government's reaction to all of this tonight. >> so some, from the point of view of the chinese government, this is as fundamental a breach as if you were talking about u.s. education policy and said let's go back to separate but equal, or you're using some taboo word in the middle east. i don't know middle east politics enough to know a taboo word. this is the bedrock of policy since the time of reagan. they're recognizing they don't want to react in haste. there's a kind of ponderousness to the chinese bureaucracy. and henry kissinger was the architect. they aren't going to do anything hasty. number two, they're going to say what kind of person are we
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dealing with in the united states? is this someone who does not know the background of the last 40 years? and we're going to have to humor him as the impaired leader of the united states? is this someone who's going to give us more leeway? and the italian phrase about revenge is best served cold, it has its chinese ramifications as well. >> surely they've been watching this unprecedented campaign for two years, and they've been listening to everything he has said about china, but also a lot of the other things he has said, a lot of the commentary in the american media, saying that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. and so might the chinese look at this as kind of an amateur hour thing that they don't have to be too concerned about at this stage? >> yes, i think that is so. and as you mentioned, i was in shanghai until about two days ago and came back. and i think number one, they
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were surprised as most professionals in the united states were about the outcome of this election. and number two, there's, i think, a calculation going on about whether it is better or worse for china to have so relatively inexperienced a person in command in the united states. is this going to be difficult in certain symbolic ways where he can be upsetting the applecart and making trouble, or is it going to be an advantage for china if it means trump doesn't know enough about the great complex its over the last 40 years of how the u.s. puts together its military and its diplomatic and economic and university and other presence in east asia. and whether this is an avenue to exploit. they're trying to figure out exactly what does this mean? is tre somebody? trump's absence who's going to be taking up the guideline of these east asian policies. so in this way, the leadership in china and beijing is much of the american and world population trying to figure out what exactly the next signals
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are going to be from this impending administration and who is going to be in charge. >> it seems there was a certain amount of diplomat ikponmwosa igbinosun n diplomatic ikponmwosa igbinosun n when he says hey, he called me. the author of it and the team putting that tweet together clearly believed it makes a huge difference that the president of taiwan called him. that's just entirely different from the call being placed the other way. >> so the minor issue is something the chinese understand as well as putin or anybody else is the vast flattery susce susceptibility trump has. but beyond that, as if it matters who initiated the call. as you well know in these
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matters of state to state signaling. the fact that a president-elect talked with a president on taiwan, which just hasn't been done since the time before reagan, the fact the conversation took place, that's what matters, not who called who. presidents and president-elects no whether or not to take calls. presumably more people call trump in a day than he takes their calls. that was a way of compounding the amateurishness of this of saying who placed the call. and it's the fact that it took place and either they did know that it matters or they didn't know. >> thank you for your perspective on this important story. really appreciate you coming in. >> thank you. coming up, donald trump versus -- you're not going to believe this. who is going rogue on donald trump? it's just the last person you'd guess. and later, donald trump has his
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we have breaking donald trump twitter news, he just tweeted about another company in indiana going to mexico. he tweeted that rexnord is going to mexico and rather efficiencely firing all 300 of its workers. this is happening in our country, no more! carrier is also firing 1300 workers, but apparently not viciously, just firing them. because donald trump couldn't stop it. nothing in his tweet indicates he can stop this. that's what we'll discuss next. what are you doing right now?
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she's actually gone rogue. she has turned on donald trump, the first republican to do so since the election when republicans like mitt romney, who had turned against candidate donald trump have been turning back to supporting the president donald trump. only sarah palin days ago had been lobbying for secretary of the veterans association and now she is attacking donald trump over the thing donald trump think is the best thing he's ever done, making a deal with carrier in return for carrier moving 1300 jobs to mexico. donald trump says he got the governor of indiana, mike pence, his future vice president to make that payment to carrier, because carrier said there were another 800 jobs that it was threatening to move to mexico that it would not move to mexico if, if carrier was paid not to move those jobs.
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and so the trump/pence team came up with the extortion money to save those jobs. here's what sarah palin says about that. when government steps in favoring one business over others, it sets unfair press derng dent, meanwhile, the free enterprise system gets amputated. republicans oppose this, remember? instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? because we know special interest cronie capitalism is one big fail. politicians picking and choosing recipients of corporate welfare is railed against by fiscal conservatives, because it's a hallmark of corruption and socialism. here is sarah palin in january making the opposite case, in favor of donald trump that no one has to worry about whether
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or not donald trump is conservative enough. >> now what they're doing is wailing well, trump and his tru trumpeters, they're not conservative enough. oh, my goodness gracious. who are they to tem ll us that we're not conservative enough. now they're concerned about this ideology cicical purity? give me a break. >> joining me now, ma rria theresa, there's donald trump now with tonight's tweet, emphasizing just how ridiculous the carrier deal is that here's another company in indiana moving jobs to mexico, nothing he can do about it, nothing he will do about it.
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and this is because journalism, as it will, following up from carrier, starts doing stories about other companies in indiana. theres with a tv news report tonight about other companies in eninch, including rexnord, moving to mexico. donald trump reacts to that report and in the process double underlines just what a ridiculous, phony event that was at carrier. >> exactly. well, i mean, do you have, lawrence, an lcc that is going to threaten to move to mexico? this is your shot right now. it's coming out and not understanding the economics of t and when you hear that donald trump is going to say if you start moving jobs to mexico or china i'm going to start imposing tariffs on your product when they come back. not understanding the supply chain. he's clearly in over his head.
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and what the carrier business did is held him at ransom and he caved. factories are going to try to find where they're going to be able to make their product in the cheapest manner. that is just basic economics. >> so dana, here's donald trump tonight outraged that rexnord is moving 300 jobs to mexico. 300 workers, indiana, will lose their jobs, he was at a company the other day celebrating them. and they're going to fire 1,000 more people than that. they're going to fire 1300 people so that their jobs can be moved to mexico. donald trump was celebrating the company that's doing that. >> well, carrier is still moving jobs to mexico, and i just wonder if, you know, in a couple years hence we're going to be talking about carrier the way
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republicans and we were all talking about solyndra early in the obama administration. he has done exactly what republicans have been against for all this time. and that is attempting to pick winners and losers. very expensive picking in this case. we've mentioned the tax credits and what was done there. what's not been mentioned is the implied sense that carrier's parent company is going to get billions of dollars in pentagon contracts. now if you're going to start throwing a billion dollars here and there at companies to keep a few thousand jobs in the country, pretty soon that's going to add up to real money. >> let's listen to what the wall street journal has said about this in their editorial. they said donald trump's nonideology cal policy-making will be disorienting. some conservatives will be tempted to tolerate bad policies that appear to be popular that they'd never accept from president obama. many republicans stayed silent
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or supported nixon as he imposed wage and price controls and created the epa only to regret it later. they shouldn't make the same mistake with trump. it is just astounding to mow th -- me that the voices we're hearing from are the wall street journal editorial board and saer rah pa. >> and in this case, she's absolutely right. do you remember the fallout president obama had when he was trying to save the auto industry? that was an actual area where it was going to save millions of dollars within this country, and that was for to ensure that there was not a completely economic showdown. paul ryan came out and said he was trying to choose winners and losers. now all of a sudden paul ryan, when asked about the carrier deal, he's completely silent. he thinks it's a good deal.
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i think that's how you're going to see a lot of congressional members give him leeway. for example what paul ryan right now, his big thing is he wants to make sure he's on the good graces of donald trump, because he wants to privatize medicare. that should basically send alarm bells to everyone, they're not going to be wking on the good graces of what's best for the american public. >> dana,en steven moore, an economic adviser to donald trump, who did not used to believe any of these things himself is now telling house republicans that, you know, you're all going to have to be converted to this new trump version of economics. forget any of these republican notions that you've had. >> yeah, poor steve moore. he was from the most free marketeers. and now defending the very opposite of it. for people who want to defend trump, you don't know what he's going to do tomorrow. here he was out there blasting
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goldman sachs as the author of all evil for 18 months, and now he's stocking the administration with goldman sachs. he said he weigas going to be unpredictable. and it's true. he's on the horn with taiwan, helping carrier, helping goldman sachs. we don't know what's coming next. >> thank you both for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up next. can donald trump's pick for defense secretary get confirmed? he has a high hurdle to get over. ffic is
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may have a challenge getting confirmed in the senate as secretary of state of defense because it is against the law for a secretary of defense to have served in the military in the last seven years, and he just retired three years ago. there was one exception for george c. marall appointed in 1950. and when congress made that exception they included a line saying that should never be granted again. saying it was the sense of the congress that after general marshall leaves the office, no additional appointments of military men to that office should be approved. senator gillibrand takes that seriously. she said while i deeply respect
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his service, i will oppose a waiver. it is a fundamental principle of our american democracy and i will not vote for an exception to this rule. bob gates had this to say after his meeting with donald trump. >> i told him i thought his selection of general mattis for the secretary of defense was terrific. very supportive. >> the current defense secretary, ash carter earnured this statement today. i have known general mattis for many years and hold him in the highest regard. i will do everything i can to help ensure a seamless transition at the department of defense. and here is what house minority leader nancy pelosi stated. general mattis will have the immense responsibility of improving donald trump's judgment as commander in chief. we are grateful that trump found general mattis's argument
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against torture persuasive. joining us, jeremy bash, former chief of staff for leon panetta. do you know general mattis? and what is your view of his selection? >> i now general mattis very well. we worked together ch . he worked closely with secretary pin panetta, general mattis is a strategic thinker, a can-do general. he understands what the troops face day in and day out. he's also very thoughtful, very careful. and i think he really helped ensure that our posture in the middle east was arrayed correctly after we drew down in iraq, and i think he'll be an
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excellent secretary of defense. it's the secretary of war and the secretary of the pentagon. and he'll be an excellent secretary of war, because he knows combat. as for being secretary of the pentagon, managing the 3 million people in the department of defense, that's where i think i will need to have around him, and i think he'll get people around him who can help him manage that mass of bureaucracy and manage this enormous enterprise that is our department of defense. >> before we get to the issue of qualifications for the job and how he would do the job, let's go to the congressional prohibition of him doing the job that has been there and has been only that one exception that we cited. senator gillibrand saying she absolutely respects that sense of the congress. wants civilian control of the military, and this is how we define it. someone who has not been in military service for at least seven years. >> it was ten years before that. it's only recently been seven years. but i think more important is the principle that the, it's
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part of the core understanding of what our once and future democracy is supposed to include, which is civilian control of the military. the u.s. military is the biggest and strongest military, not the biggest, but the strongest military that has ever existed in history. the notion that it would be under the command of a general, and remember, marines talking about once a marine always a marine. somebody who's just out of the military who sees his role very much in the military thing as jeremy just said. he's a can-do general. i have no doubt that he can do war. the problem is, what we sneadne a civilian, not a warmonger. this is a general who unlike other jgenerals who has said i like to fight. he said to the iraqi leaders, if you f with me, i will kill you all. this is not somebody. the reason they call him "mad
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dog" mattis didn't come out of the sky. >> i have to stop you. general mattis is not a warmonger. i think he believes in order to have peace, in order to have diplomacy, it has to be backed by military strength. >> i don't think that includes threatening -- can i finish for a minute? >> jeremy, let me let phyllis finish her point. >> the point is this is partly about principle. that the principle of our country is civilian control. now can you say seven years isn't long enough, ten years, it maybe should be 20 years. some of us, myself included believe that no one who was in the military as a general should become the secretary of defense. that inherently should be a non-military figure. but there's also the question of this individual person. he's not by any means the worst of those being considered. but the fact that we have somebody who seems to glorify this notion of killing people, he talked about who having to
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kill, liking to kill. i will kill you if you f with me. these are not the wds o somebody who is thoughtful and cautious about wanting to go into war. >> i think unfortunately, phyllis, you're mischaracterizing. but i do want to agree with you on one point. i think you make an important point. there is a principle of civilian control of the military. >> there's a reason for it. >> i want to emphasize this. i don't want any misunderstanding. when george washington resigned his commission in the continental army on december 23rd, 1783, he made an important statement, that we were not going to have a military leader be president of the united states or secretary of war or later secretary of defense. i think that's something that we should uphold. general mattis resigned. he resigned in 2013. he's been a civilian for a number of years. and i think as long as there is that cooling-off period between
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his service in uniform and his service as a civilian, we ought to give him the benefit of the doubt. he's very capable, and i think he'll do an excellent job. >> i think there are plenty of people who are capable. i think someone who has spent his years on the board of a corporation like general dynamics, which is one of the biggest, most powerful military corporations has not left the military behind. >> we're going to have to leave it there. thank you both for joining us. we really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up -- >> i wondered, what the hell was he trying to prove? >> the guy who donald trump hates so much he can't even mention his name will join us next. you don't let anything keep you sidelined.
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he is going to lose to this guy. but the people of utah were amazing, and we trounced them. and by the way, hillary came in second, and that guy came in third. i was still trying to figure out. i'm still trying to figure out, what was he going to prove. i wondered, what the hell was he trying to prove. i guess he wanted us to lose the supreme court. that's about the only thing he was going to get. >> that guy who donald trump is referring to was on the ballot utah and ten or states, he won 21% of the vote in his home state of utah and he responded by saying winning the election makes you president-elect but it does not make you a leader worth following. you won political legitimacy, but nothing can legitimatize your bigotry, thor tear inism
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and corruption. evan, when you referred to donald trump's legitimacy and you refer to his corruption. as you see it on the landscape of trump activities today, how would you describe the corruption? >> clearly he's setting himself up to do a lot of self-dealing from the white house. that's what we've seen a lot of separation from his business empire and his role now as president or president-elect has not happened. he tells us it will happen. it's important for it to happen. but with his children involved in the business and the administration in one way or another, i think it's going to be very, very difficult for him to entirely separate himself from the business. and he's already had phone calls with world leaders that have included discussions about his business interests. we need to be very, very wary of that. but that's just one part of it. there are a range of other things as a conservative, at least i think we need to watch. he's going to grow the seitz iz
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the government. the carrier deal shows that he's going to medel dle in ways thate damaging. there are a lot of things we need though watch very, very closely. we need a new era of civic engagement. we need to be very attentive and vigilant and vehicocal as we wa this administration roll forward and take power. >> what is your future in republican politics? >> i think more in terms of my future for involvement in politics for the country. i am a conservative. i hope the republican party will continue to be home for conservatives. i think that's not possible right now with trump as the president. we'll see where he goes with the party and where conservatives need to be, but i'll be engaged. >> evan mcmullin, thank you very
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much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. coming up, donald trump finally discusses the dakota access pipeline. just didn't do it in public.
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ask your doctor if 24-hour breo could be a missing piece for you. see if you're eligible for 12 months free at donald trump finally talked about the dakota access pipeline today when he met with heidi heitkamp of north dakota. she says they discussed the complexities facing the construction of the pipe heine. she rumored to be under consideration for secretary of the interior. if she took a job in the trump administration, the democrats would lose her seat to a republican appointed by the republican governor. that would not change the political support in north dakota for the dakota access pipeline that has been subject of protests led by these standing rock sioux tribe. a group of veterans are going to
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protest the site this weekend as a dramatic showdown looms on monday. calip cal perry reports from the site. >> reporter: this is an evolving site in preparation of the vets who said they are coming. 2,000 have registered on facebook. inclear how many will show up. we have heard rumors there could be up to 5,000 on the way. everyone we've spoken to in the camp is welcoming this news. they're ready for that support. >> i have a lot of confidence that the veterans that are showing up are coming to help protect, you know. i have a lot of trust in that. i've already had a lot of trust in the veterans, but the whole idea of them coming in force to be with us and help us protect, it's given me a lot of courage. >> reporter: the big question on everybody's mind is what will happen on monday, monday is the day authorities have given here to abandon the camp. we spoke to law enforcement
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officials today who said it's not likely they will move physically on the camp. they understand the optics of that are very, very poor. nevertheless, in speaking to veterans here who have already arrived, they say they are here to protect the water protectors. and because there's human rights violations happening here, the constitution's being violated. these people have the right to be here, they don't have the right to tell they're not to be here. and to hose them down, to use things that aren't even allowed in combat, that's why i'm here. >> reporter: with at least six agencies coordinating what could be a violent day on monday, certainly, the question is, how is this going to end? will it end in some kind of a standoff? or will the authorities let people here stay. the weather is going to get bad on tuesday. temperatures are going to drop into the single digits with the wind chill. it will be minus 20 degrees.
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officials believe most people will leave the camp. when you talk to people here, they say they're in it for the long haul. coming up, a special last word using your words. some of your tweets, actually, a lot of your
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and now for tonight's last word. this week a star was born right here on this show, and now i and many of you have a new favorite poet. >> my poem is "little by little." >> okay. >> little by little we'll go. no matter how far the dits tans, we are not shaken. little by little we'll go, no matter how bumpy the road is. little by little we'll go. and hill by litt little by little we'll go, no matter how narrow the path is. don't be shaken. don't turn back. little by little you'll go and reach your destination. >> that's joyce in her second year of high school in malawi. one tweet says the little by
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little poem is stuck in my head. david g tweeted, humbling and beautiful. joyce renews faith in humanity. clara tweeted her own handwritten words of the poem after so many of you are asking for a written version of the poem. mary tweeted that was one of the most beautiful thinsgs have i seen. her heart was amazing. one tweet says i want to be joyce when i grow up. joyce told me she wants to be a doctor and a poet when she grows up. and here's why. >> i like to be a doctor cause i like to help people who are like getting sick, because nowadays there are more people getting sick, so i would like to help them. i also like to encourage other girls to finish school so they can take example of me as a
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female doctor, and i'd like to be a poet in order to inspire girls, more especially girls who are dropping out of school, because most of the poems i hlie are educational poems. little by little we go, you reach your destination. when i met joyce. she had been knocked off the road to her destination. she had been sent home because her father could no longer afford to pay her high school tuition. as in many african countries, high school is not free. and most parents cannot afford the tuition. i had the honor of telling joyce that thanks to your donations to the kind fund, she would never have to worry about tuition again. it is a unique partnership of msnbc and unicef which i created six years ago for kids in need
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of desks. our primary mission is manufacturing desks in mahaw -- malou we. girls education is a special challenge in malawi. the girls graduation rate is half that of boys. the kind fund is helping thousands of girls. leah in la, la land tweeted, little by little, desk by desk, we added a desk this morning. thanks for everything you do, very inspiring. several thousand kids are sitting at desks in malou we that you have provided. one tweet says my wife and i donated a year's tuition for a girl in malawy again. one tweeted i've bought desks
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for the last two years, but joyce inspired me to contribute toward a scholarship. sue tweeted, that was a beautiful thing to have so little and have so much. that is what i marvel at. most of them don't own shoes, but you can't find in their faces or their spirit or their words any sense of deprivation. that may be because they don't know anyone who has much more than they do. the per capita income in malawi is $342 a year. it is one of the poorest countries on earth. they don't have tvs, they don't see the way rich people live. they don't see the way we live. when you ask kids what they would like to have, they have to think about it, they don't have an answer red eye. no one asks them that. they're not like american kids saying i want an iphone 7 or tickets to a concert. when you ask girls in high school what they need they almost all say the same thing.
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soap. they would love to have a bar of soap. think about that. the number one thing on your wish list is a bar of soap, because you can't afford a bar of soap. but you're smiling when you say it, because you're so very grateful to be in high school and to be on track to reach your destination, to be a doctor, to be a nurse, a bank teller, a waitress, waitress is an upper middle class job in malawi. heather tweeted, what's smallest amount i can donate to the kind fund. heather in a country where a kid would just love to have a bar of soap, there is no amount too small, $10, $5, $2. whatever is the lowest amount you can process on your credit card can do some good. you can contribute at you can give scholarships in the name of people on your holiday gift list.
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after listening to joyce on giving tuesday, chris shay tweeted, that is so wonderful and wonderful is such a weak word to describe her poem and her spirit. gave me tears


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