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closer relationship with the next president. and 25 doctor who said trump would be the healthiest person ever elected president, he's talking again. tonight, his blunt new patient assessment. "the 11th hour" begins hour in. and good evening once again from our headquarters in new york. tomorrow puts us 29 days from the inauguration of the next president. perhaps because the president-elect has communicated mostly through social media of late, perhaps because he last held a news conference 147 days ago, when he spoke today for all of 74 seconds, responding to reporters' shouted questions outside his home in florida, it made news. so we thought we would begin tonight with all 74 seconds of the president-elect. >> everything good? >> yes, sir. >> reporter: mr. president-elect --
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>> have you been apprised in the events of europe. have you spoken to senator obama. >> what's going on is terrible. intelligence is here right now. what's going on is terrible. >> reporter: has this caused you to rethink or re-evaluate the plans on muslims entering the united states? >> you know my plans all along and i've been proven to be right 100% correct. what's happening is disgraceful. anyway, everything's fine, nice to have you with us. >> reporter: have you talked to president obama at all, sir? >> i have not. two days ago but not since. >> reporter: mr. president, your comments about the attack in berlin being against christians, do you think that this might -- >> say it again? what? >> reporter: the attacks in berlin being against -- an attack against christians. >> who said that? when was that said?
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>> reporter: i think -- i believe you said it or it was a press release. >> oh, yeah. >> reporter: so i'm wondering how this might affect relations with muslims. >> that's an attack on humanity, that's what it is. an attack on humanity and it's got to be stopped. thank you for coming. thank you. >> and one note about that moment. you saw here donald trump did invoke an ongoing global jihad against christians by isis when he initially reacted to the attack in berlin two days ago. today also in florida the president-elect met with the bosses of boeing and lockheed martin to talk about government contracts, among other things. you may recall he took to twitter this month to bemoan the cost of boeing's air force one redesign contract and lockheed's f-35 fighter jet program. after the meeting, boeing's boss said his company could trim the bill for air force one. the president-elect started his day, as he often does, on twitter, again defending his election win, despite losing the popular vote by nearly 2.9 million votes now.
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trump wrote today in part, "campaigning to win the electoral college is much more difficult and sophisticated than the popular vote. hillary focused on the wrong states." and another billionaire has joined the trump team today. the well-known investor, deal maker carl icahn was named at a special adviser on regulation. much has been written about the net worth of the combined members of the trump team thus far. icahn alone brings an estimated net worth of $16.5 billion. with us tonight to start off the conversation, nbc news correspondent kristen welker covering the president-elect in florida where earlier tonight she learned the truth behind the phrase "if you don't like the in florida, on the first night of winter for the rest of us in the northeast. and michael "mad dog" crowley
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whose piece on the trump foreign policy team we recommend on politico. thank you both for joining us tonight to start off our broadcast. press conference since he's been elected. he hasn't given a full press conference since july so while he answered a couple of questions it wasn't that rigorous back-and-forth that you typically get when you have a press conference but there was one more interesting nugget that
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came out of that back and forth. they asked him whether he saw the attacks abroad as an attack on christianity and he sort of walked that back as well and said this is an attack on all of humanity. >> michael, think about this. 74 seconds worth of access and here we are poring over all of it. among the greatest hits there, he seemed to reharden his line on muslims. is he seemed unfamiliar with what was said this week under his name.
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in 29 days, these kinds of things are going to matter a lot. >> they're going to matter quite a lot, brian. you say he rehardened his line on muslims but it's not clear what he said. he said something like "you know my position" but his position on that particular question of muslim immigration ban evolved during the campaign or at least wobbled around and it's not really clear in his own mind what that position is. throw into the mix, brian, the fact that he's on twitter popping off all day long about who knows what, whatever is coming up so you have these press conferences that create more questions than confuse people and everybody is poring over his twitter feed trying to glean what's on his mind and there's a lot of confusion and we never entered a new presidential administration in this kind of context before. >> kristen, to michael's point, think about his twitter traffic in just the past week or two.
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from alec baldwin to grayden carter at "vanity fair" to former president bill clinton, taking shots at all three. now today continuing to relitigate the outcome of the election, popular vote versus electoral, which he won. why is that? >> it seems like he's still allowing these issues, these people, to get under his skin. one of the war of words he has as you pointed out was with former president bill clinton who essentially was captured saying and it was written about by a local new york paper that donald trump isn't very smart, he's only good at getting angry white men to vote for him. that set off a firestorm from donald trump on twitter saying it's bill clinton that's not very smart. then the issue of the popular vote.
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he can't let it go. the fact that hillary clinton now has close to three million votes more than he has in the popular vote, this is something that bothers him. we pressed his transition officials about this earlier today, why can't he let these things go? why does she to take to twitter to relitigate them and the answer was "we'll let the tweets speak for themselves." it was a striking answer because >> michael, as you know better than most it's a scary world and forces like isis make it all the more scary. how far is donald trump from having a completed national security team which is important starting now because the trump campaign, the transition effort has told us he's getting daily briefings from his own team if not from the briefers assigned. >> yeah, brian, he's still a long way from a full team.
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me does have some key figures in place on national security, at least in terms of his -- the nomination he is will submit so you have james mattis at the pentagon, rex tillerson he wants to put in at state, general kelly for homeland security. he's got hissize inner in mike flynn but there are a lot of really important jobs at the levels below those people, the deputies, the people are doing to day to day grunt work, frankly, don't spend as much time as the congressional hearings or photo-ops and not a lot of progress on those key jobs and in addition there is one key cabinet level job, the director of national intelligence, jim clapper, who has played a fundamental role in this administration in assessing security threats both to do with terrorists and geopolitical threats like russia, cyber attacks, that kind of thing. clapper announced he would be resigning at noon on january 20, inauguration day. some people took that as a signal he did not want to serve for a moment under donald trump.
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be that as it may or not trump is going to have a vacancy in that crucial post from the get-go and has not put forward a candidate for that job. so there is a lot of work to do and i don't have to tell you how important it is that you have a smooth transition when it comes to national security when you have threats from countries like iran and russia on the cyber side as well as isis and al qaeda still out there so really important to get this right, to stick the landing, so to speak. >> and, michael, add to the mix, boeing and lockheed. think about the business they do with the federal government. think about the business boeing for one does with a nation like china. how much of their inventory comes right off the line in everett, washington, and goes overseas? >> quite a lot and boeing would be greatly affected if we got into a kind of economic trade war with china which is something that seems totally plausible under donald trump. we just saw an appointment today
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to a key trade position where trump put in an advocate of essentially economic confrontation with china and when it comes to boeing, by the way, brian, remember that boeing has struck a deal to sell a bunch of its biggest planes to iran and there's strong opposition to that in congress and for a guy like donald trump who is a hawk on iran, not clear whether that deal is going to be able to go through so these big aerospace companies are definitely caught up in geopolitics and the future is unpredictable when it comes to donald trump, as it is on so many issues. >> kristen welker, a brief question about a "washington post" article that went up tonight that will probably get more talk into tomorrow that is cabinet selection and subcabinet has been in effect a casting call for this man who was an entertainment executive, an entertainment host for so much of his adult life. physical attributes like the
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mustache of john bolton, the bearing of rex tillerson taken into account as donald trump looks at candidates for these jobs. >> well, i don't have an official statement on the mustache, brian, but here's what i can tell you. senior administration officials don't dispute that the president-elect likes people who look the part and take a look at some of his picks. you talked about some of them. james "mad dog" mattis. he likes to compare him to general patton. he has a rough and rugged look. rex tillerson the part. he's towering. he exudes this sense of authority. and by the way a lot of people thought that was one of the reasons that he was drawn to mitt romney because he thought he looked the part even though mitt romney had critiqued him so bitterly and this process has been run a little bit like a reality tv show. of course these candidates have
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been paraded in front of the cameras and at times we've got on the shout out questions at them so there's no doubt the optics of this are something that president-elect trump takes into consideration. how will each of these people be perceived when they walk into a room? will they be perceived as someone who exudes dhort? that's a key question but transition officials express that he thinks they will do the job. >> kristen welker on a hot night in florida, on the first night of winter for the rest of us in the northeast. and michael "mad dog" crowley whose piece on the trump foreign policy team we recommend on politico. thank you both for joining us tonight to start off our broadcast. as we take our first break, the pieces of the berlin investigation that don't add up and the pieces of the trump/putin relationship that don't add up, our next guest, however, can fill in the blanks on both when "the 11th hour" continues.
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a manhunt spanning an entire continent is under way right now for a tunisian man suspected of driving the stolen tractor-trailer that plowed into a berlin outdoor christmas market on monday. that attack as you may know killed 12 people, left 48 others wounded. according to the german broadcaster r. b.b., documents identifying the suspect were found inside the truck. nbc news has not verified that report however with us tonight is our terrorism analyst malcolm nantz. 35-year veteran of the trade,
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including naval intelligence, special operations and homeland security. he also happens to be -- and this is important -- the author of a very timely new book "the plot to hack america, how putin's cyber spies and wikileaks tried to steal the 2016 election." good to see you in person, welcome back. >> my pleasure. >> the germans are good at this so i was curious that it allegedly took so long for them to discover pertinent documents under the seat of the truck, it took so long for them to put imagery out. when you have a good place force, it's often the case where they don't want to share with the suspect how much they know but now i guess it's out. what do you make of this? >> well, first off, the germans do things very differently than we do. when we do a manhunt, we try to bring in the public almost immediately. people in the u.s. marshal service, when they get down to it, they'll try to gumshoe an issue but it's always good to get that face out there, the
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germans are the opposite. i've operated in germany with german intelligence, they run down the subject. they will use every trace bit of information. they found that packet of information about mr. anis amri in the truck almost immediately but they don't want them to know that, he want time to think they're incompetent and might not get him so the story of a pakistani immigrant who might have been there, that would have given amri confidence he was getting away but i've seen literally germany shut down with a ring of deal. you go from germany to strasberg and there's german police on the border areas. that being said, they would have already had a radius where they would have known he would have gone by foot or car, is i don't believe he's going out of the country over to italy or eastern
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europe that fast because that's exactly what they would have thought done so i think the germans have a handle on this but you have to run down every lead. where he came from, how he got to that truck, all the cameras leading up to that truck. where he acquired the weapon from to murder the truck driver himself. it's going to be a fascinating manhunt. >> i have to talk to you about russia. i mangled a quote of yours last night but you and i have talked endlessly about this subject. mr. crowley who was on in our first segment authored a police for politico. this is about putin's revenge. "humiliated by the 1990s, russia's strong man is determined to win cold war 2.0. he may be succeeding." i asked you the last time we were on the air together after president obama's news conference how much of this is tied to putin? to -- from putin to trump. was trump compromised by russia? as you answer that question.
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how are the various ways people can be compromised? >> i don't think -- if we're going to use the traditional definition of compromised, which russia calls a political warfare operation, where they get something on someone and coerce them into their position. i'm not sure that's the case. the best word to use here is co-opted or -- i know, we all know that donald trumps speaker of the houses the political and strategic foreign policy ideology of the kremlin. some of his signature pieces, believe neigh toe is obsolete, allowing russia to believe the annexation of crimea was legitimate and possibly allowing them do that in other parts of eastern europe, his senior foreign policy advisers are key russian hands and friends of russia. that being said, when did that occur? when did he develop these feelings, not just so he can have putin there. we saw that in 2013 with his text messages where he said will
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putin come here to miss universe and be my friend? when did he listen to people who had that belief that russia's authority in eastern europe and nato's encroachment to its borders was a strategic threat to russia and should become something donald trump should not just listen to but take on, to imbody himself. that being said that is -- you're talking about a man who's the former kgb officer, who ran human intelligence officers into west germany, vladimir putin, was the director of the fsb, which is the kgb with different letters and he would know how to manipulate or get people to manipulate to one or two degrees of separation anyone to do the kremlin's bidding if they were so ideologically inclined. >> so compromising can can take place electronically, take take place conversationally for someone who is adept and mentally.
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>> yes, but russia use what is we call hybrid warfare which is every component of military, political, diplomatic and intelligence power is brought to bear on nation state no, sir this case individuals. and i believe certainly in my book i wrote it's less of a political non-fiction than it is an intelligence analysis of how the fsb and its intelligence components would have surrounded donald trump through the russian ole garry of which putin requires an fsb or ex-kgb officer. you cannot be rich in russia without having the fsb or kgb at your finger to do the bidding of putin and how they would have brought him along initially as just a colorful american political character who fund american street but as he started to grow in stature during the campaign putin started making statements in his favor.
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but the political hacking of the democratic party worked out completely and solely to his advantage and no one else was hacked, just the people opposing jim? that's why we affectionately call malcolm nantz around here the scariest man in america. merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas to you. another break for us. coming up, he famously said donald trump would be the healthiest person ever elected president. is well, what trump's doctors is saying now as "the 11th hour" continues. these birds once affected by oil
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two quick things before we go tonight, first, an indication the presidency is about to become real -- a report today confirmed by our nbc station here in new york that a military transport plane and two helicopters spotted over this city over a week ago were on a dry run for a potential rescue mission if the president, while at trump tower in new york, needed to be extracted by air during a local or national emergency. the aircraft understandably attracted a lot of attention in the skies over new york and there was no advance warning of the drill. the explanation given that day was wrong and the city's mayor should be angry about this. it was anything but a routine training mission and it did, in fact, involve the president-elect. also tonight it may have been one of the stranger events of a
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strange campaign when donald trump's dr. harold bornstein released a letter about candidate trump's health. he wrote "if elected mr. trump, i can state unkwifly, will be the healthiest individual ever elected to the presidency." that, of course, had no basis in fact and the doctor is at it again. in an interview with stat, a health and medicine web site about his patient's age, which is 70, he says "it never occurred to me he was the oldest president, not for a second." mr. trump will be the oldest man to take office and about mortality and the presidency he said "if something happens to him, then it happens to him. it's like all the rest of us, no? that's why we have a vice president and a speaker of the house and a whole line of people. they can just keep dying. the doctor said he treats other members of the trump family as well and said mr. trump is a few pounds overweight as "everybody can see." on that note, that's our broadcast on a wednesday night,
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thank you for being here with us. "hardball" with chris matthews is up next. unpopular vote. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm joy reid in washington, d.c. in tonight for chris math use. donald trump spent the day in mar-a-lago meeting with military leaders discussing national security issues. when he came outside for a moment he briefly answered questions from reporters, one of which about the recent terrorist attacks in europe and what it means for his immigration policy. >> reporter: has it caused to to rethink or re-evaluate your plans to create a muslim registry or ban muslim immigration to the united


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