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former white house chief of staff reince priebus questioned today by robert mueller today. also tonight, an nbc news exclusive on a big focus of the investigation, former campaign chairman paul manafort. new reporting on his financial ties to russia. and president trump takes a big swing at two of obama's biggest achievements, health kair and the iran nuclear deal. all of it as the 11th hour gets under way on a friday night. good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 267 of the trump administration and the russia investigation tops our news tonight as it moves in closer to the president. nbc news has confirmed that former rnc chairman, former white house chief of staff reince priebus of wisconsin met with special counsel robert mueller's team today. priebus is the highest ranking official to meet with the special counsel thus farment as politico puts it tonight, quote, priens is seen as a key player
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in understanding the president's actions because he was present for many meetings, including discussions on firing former fbi director james comey and white house meetings with russian officials. he was also privy to white house internal documents. priebus, you may recall, left his chief of staff post back in july. and on another front tonight, in an nbc news exclusive, there are new details on the money trail having to do with russia and former trump campaign chairman paul manafort. the investigation, quote, reveals that $26 million changed hands in the form of a loan between a company linked to manafort and the oligarch oh leg dar i positives ka, a billionaire with close ties to the kremlin. the loan brings the total of their known business dealings to around $60 million over the past decade. oh leg dar apass ka is the same man as the "washington post" reported last month that manafort offered to give private briefings to during the
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campaign. a spokesman for manafort responded with this statement. quote, he has called for the u.s. government to release any intercepts involving him and nonamericans in homes of finally putting an end to these wild conspiracy theories. mr. manafort did not collude with the russian government. the key word there, of course, is government. as trump's former campaign mrg, manafort is a big focus of the mueller effort. the fbi took the rare action of launching a surprise raid on his home over the summer, and "the new york times" has reported that manafort expects to be indicted. we want to bring in our lead off panel. peter baker, mika oh yang and matthew miller. welcome to you all. peter, i'd like to begin with
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you. without notice -- without knowing, rather, what was asked and what was answered in the session with priebus, what can we tell by the fact that he was called? >> well, a couple things. one, of course, is that, you know, the president has cast aside quite a number of senior staff in only nine months in office. we've seen a bigger turn over in this white house in a short amount of time than any on modern record skpchlt clearly mr. mueller is going to har vs that. he's going to go to people who used to be on the inside who are no longer on the inside in order to find out what they know, what they're willing to tell him. it is possible the president could assert privilege over former aides, but that doesn't seem to have been the case here and mr. priebus was involved in some really important issues that must be at the center of what mr. mueller is looking at not the least of which is the firing of mr. comey, that fbi director back that may that some believe could account as obstruction of justice.
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>> there was also that flight back from europe on air force one and the drafting of a press release. remind our audience why that's critical. >> kpagtel. there were these e-mails that had been discovered to donald trump jr. from last year's campaign in which the russians offered to meet with him to provide incriminating information about hillary clinton on behalf of the russian government. that's what the e-mail said. my colleagues at the times contacted the white house about that, president trump was personally involved in the drafting of a statement to respond to that, and the initial statement was to say the least misleading if not incomplete. it said the meeting was about russian adoptions which was not in fact the purpose of the meeting kroording to these e-mails. no mention was made in that statement of offer from the russian government to help mr. trump campaign. mr. trump was directly involved with that statement. i think clearly bob mueller wants to know about that. >> and peter, like all good white house correspondents i have a sec follow-up and that is how did reince priebus leaves
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things with the boss and with the west wing in general? >> well, he didn't have the happiest departure, you'll remember, fb. he was pushed out on a friday, a yany friday when the president went to new york and back. and reince priebus got off the plane got into a car and has basically disappeared since then. he's been very quiet, low-key. stayed loyal. has not gone out there and offered commentary and told us what he thought happened inside the white house or his own departure. but i think, you know, what you can speculate on is some people around him have said he didn't have a happy time. he was not a trump loyalist during last year's campaign. he was rnc chairman of a party that didn't particularly want mr. trump as its nominee and he was brought in as sort of a way of bringing the republican party together and it didn't work out. he and the president didn't get along ultimately in the end. he was not the chief of sta that the president ultimately wanted. >> mika, i do this to you all the time. you were not as far as we know a
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member of the mueller legal team, yet i ask you to speculate about them all the time. what does this tell you about the mueller effort that it has reached priebus? >> it means that they're getting closer and closer to the 0e68 office itself. now, they have someone who is regularly going in and out of the oval office who is consulting with the president on a daily basis about his activities, about what statements were drafted. remember, when he was drafting the statement that peter mentioned, he was on a plane on his way back from europe, where he had had a private, long conversation, more than one, actually, with vladimir putin before he got on that plane. people might want to know what priebus knew about that conversation. it means that they're getting closer to being able to get to the other white house staff, and we still have a long way to go in this investigation. >> i forgot about that little pull aside conversation with putin. mika, how does this work? it seems to me reince priebus was present for so much, somewhere between a zblel i go and a clark clifford of modern
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day politics, that is one day enough? do they have the right to recall you? might he have a second session with these folks? >> he might. as they get other information from other witnesses, they may call him back again to clarify. you know, this is them reporting that he has been talking to the mueller team, but we don't know how many other conversation they've had. and i think until they get further along, they reserve the right to recall anyone. >> all right. matthew, is priebus the kind of person they could be looking at to turn? >> i think absolutely. if you look at all of the things -- you know, starting with the 2016 campaign and then especially in the white house that he was witness to, the firing of jim comey, what the president said about why he was going too fire comey, that's very key, his motivation is key. priebus was a witness to all of that. and obviously the one thing that we don't know that bob mueller has yet is someone on the inside who has turned who will help piece this all together.
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he's got a lot of circumstantial evidence. he has memos. he can put together testimony. but he doesn't have anyone yet that we know that's turned on the president. i think peter is right. reince priebus has all the incentive in the world to turn on president trump, given the way he was fired, but part of what we have to do here is read the tea leaves and i think there's one very big tea leave that tell us us he's not done that yet. he shares the same attorney as don mcgahn. don mcgahn is still the white house counsel. he's the white house attorney. it's very hard to believe that he could represent both -- that barryburg could represent both mcgahn and priebus if priebus had turned and was a witness against the president. >> you're the house counsel for the purposes of this conversation. what do you make of that last point? >> i think that's right. i think priebus is cooperating but at the point where they're starting to ask them questions, setting them against each other, then they need to have separate counsel otherwise their lawyer
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is conflicted. >> peter, we move on to mr. manafort. first of all, what do you make of the story in chief as it came out tonight? second, i have to point this out. manafort's spokesman released a revised version of his statement. so twice today they have put out a statement, but the second one bleed this line. mr. manafort is not indebted to former clients today, nor was he at the time he began working for the trump campaign. so that sentence that you're seeing on the screen as judges say strike it from your memory. it no longer exists as part of the formal statement that manafort's communications director put out. with that kind of a wind up, peter, what do you make of it? >> well, that's obviously significant. they don't take that out of the statement without cause, and it's interesting that they would initially have that in there and obviously have to be corrected at some pointed. somebody told them that their understanding of the circumstances was not what they originally thought. so even within his own team, they don't have their stories straight.
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look, we have known and this story reinforces that paul manafort was very big into the russian slash pro russian ukrainian or bit here. he is a politically active figure who is close to putin's circle. he is not an independent actor and the fact that paul manafort has been close business associate, tied in with lots and lots of money between them over these years is of course dai raises lots of red flags. now, that doesn't necessarily mean he's done anything wrong, doesn't necessarily mean he's done any solution. that's a separate leap to make. there are a let of issues for paul manafort that go beyond just simply the campaign. it be could the handling of money, the issues of money laundering have been mentioned. you know, there are lots of things. he's gone back with these people many years that may not have anything to do with donald trump. it may be just as we were saying
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about reince priebus that they want paul manafort not necessarily about himself but what he could say about the activities of the campaign last year. >> and mika, because we're all kind of in the dark using flashlights without knowing what's going on behind the scenes, do you think there's been any surprise among members of the mueller team at just how much financial crimes have become a percentage of this investigation? >> i think they knew that this was going to be a big percentage of this. mueller was pulling some of the best financial prosecutors from across the government. they had reached out to the irs criminal investigative team. they have access to the department of treasury's financial crimes, financial intelligence folks. they know that they have to follow the money, and they brought in the best experts to do that. >> matthew, same question. >> i think mika is exactly right. look, in all of these cases you always end up following the money or in this case maybe it's follow the black kaf yar. if you remember, that's what one of paul manafort's former employees said to him is that oh
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lig dar apass ka was the person who had given him a big jar of black kaf yar. we now know that that means $60 million. you asked about that statement earlier. i think the reason they withdrew it. one of two things happened. either he repaid the lon or he didn't. if he didn't repay the loan, that means it's early either still on the books or it was another potential crime. because it was money that he had received that wasn't a loan, that he probably hasn't reported and probably hasn't paid taxes on and i think that's why you see, asthma ka said, bob mueller pulling in experts from the irs and a number of people with a long history in following money laundering. >> after a long day and on a friday night, our great thanks on our lead off panel for bringing their a game. thank you all. coming up after our first break, the accusations of government malpractice where the puerto rico government storm relief is concerned. not hemmed by the president's victim blaming after the disaster. and after this break, we'll get to the other big headline items
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first, one of obama's largest foreign policy agreements, the iran nuclear deal. trump announced he would scrap it if congress doesn't do something to make it tougher on iran. >> i am announcing today that we cannot and will not make this certification. we will not continue down a path whose predictable conclusion is more violence, more terror and the very real threat of iran's nuclear break out. that is why i am directing my administration to work closely with congress and our allies to address the deals many serious flaws so that the iranian regime can never threaten the world with nuclear weapons. >> second, obama's biggest domestic achievement, the affordable care act, forever known as obamacare. the president will cut off the payments the government makes to
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keep costs lower for a lot of americans. >> that money was a subsidy and almost you could say a pay off to insurance companies, and what we have to do is come up with great health care. what would be nice, if the democratic leaders could come over to the white house, we'll negotiate some deal that's good for everybody. that's what i'd like. but they're always a block vote against everything. they're like obstructionist. if they came over, maybe we could make a deal. >> let's talk about it. joining us tonight heidi pris bell low, casey hunt and welcome back back after an absence of a few minutes, peter baker. >> heidi, you get what may be the toughest question of the day. this is for all of our viewers
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who have just gotten home, who may not have caught up. what happened? what did the president do to hell care today, more broadly obamacare today? was there cruelty? was there cynicism involved, as some of the democrats have charged? >> the president has talked about just letting obamacare fail. this is not letting obamacare fail. this is actively ambushing obamacare. and they're pretty up front about it, saying, look, he didn't get his way in congress in terms of repeal and replace, so now he's going to go after this law. what he did today is according to health care experts who i talked to potentially one of the most damaging things he could do to try and upset this marketplace. why? because these are the subsidies that allow these insurance -- that go to these insurance companies, not just to help any american but to help low income americans and to make this marketplace work for these insurance companies of the so when you say you're going to yank that money, it injects that
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uncertainty that drives premiums up, eventually for everybody, because the government is still on the hook for paying other subsidies, brian, so it drives up all premiums. so you're insuring fewer people and you're paying more. and actually, analysts are now starting to look at this that this actually even adds to the deficit. you ask, is there cynicism? what is the end goal in this? it appears maybe this is an attempt to try and jam the democrats, to try and actively tear this law apart, to force them to the negotiating table. but getting into the politics of this, the president is taking ownership now for this health care law politically. i'm not sure that the democrats are going to feel compelled to rescue him and his party from the consequences of what's about to happen here. >> and heidi, how do you think people whose health care is now jeopardized or whose premiums just went out of reach are going to feel about being used as a jamming device between donald trump and the democrats?
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>> that's a question of whether they know, brian. people who are watching us tonight will know. i don't know that this is going to get relayed to the conservative media, but -- through the conservative media but it should because as we discussed many times before on this show, those people who who could be hurt the most who are benefiting most in terms of the transfer of subsidies are actually in a lot of these red states. this is assuming that this ultimately happens. we need to tell people as well that it's possible that congress could step into the breach and rescue this and cut some kind of a deal on subsidies. but when you have the president sending a signal like this, it all throws a bomb potentially into those bipartisan negotiations that, yes, prior to this were making some progress. >> so all roads lead to capitol hill, and casey hunt, that means ultimately we're coming to you, but not before we hear peter baker tell all of our viewers what the president did on the iran deal today.
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>> well, the iran deal, under u.s. law the president has to certify every 90 days whether or not iran is in compliance with athe greemt that president obama negotiated in 2015 and whether it's in national interest to continue with it. the president has twice complied that it is in compliance. it made him too angry to do it. he said it's not in america's national interest even though there's no particular allegation of any kind of major violation by the iranians. his point is that iran is a bad actor so every on so many other fronts including support of terrorist groups and developing blivg missiles and so on that it does not make sense to stay in the deal. what this does now is punt the issue to congress and he told them, look, you figure out what we do next. you figure out what we want to do to address these issues that i've outlined and then we'll take it from there. the other nations in the deal not affected by this at this
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point. if congress decides to reimpose sarngsz, that would be a different thing that actually would unrafrl the deal. >> the president went against mattis for one and the rest of most of the members of his national security apparatus. so, casey hunt, any reason to think that congress won't quickly deal with both health care and the iran deal? >> gee, brian, i can't think of anything that would indicate that perhaps congress is not up to the task of dealing with multiple things very, very quickly based on their track record this year. republicans want to do tax reform. that's what they want to focus on. from the big picture perspective, based on, you know, both of these topics that you just talked through with heidi and with peter, my sense is the president is essentially setting himself up to run against them. he knows -- the president is struggling. his popularity is down, but frankly, the popularity of the republican congress is down more. paul ryan's popularity has dropped 10 plus points since the
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beginning of the year according to some surveys. and he knows that. and this, quite frankly, kicks the can to a congress that has struggled to deliver on major lejs laisk accomplishments but also to do some of these smaller things. on health care there were bipartisan negotiations in the works when republicans decided, hey, we're going to take another stab at trying to reveal and replace obamacare in the senate and that, of course, fail again. i think they may go back that. there were republicans who told him, hey, this is not a good idea. don't cut off these payments. we don't want to have to deal with this. but i think that while the president is framing this as a struggle with democrats and saying, hey, i'm trying to force democrats to the table and he may want democrats to come to the table, he's more frustrated with his own party. i mean, the relationship between president trump and his party, i'm not sure -- and congress has ever quite been worse. i mean, bob corker is out with
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new comments tonight talking about rex tillerson and using language that i don't even want to repeat on tv for how he feels about how the president has treated him. so i think that essentially the president is setting up the congress to fail and that that's maybe what we're going to see play out the next six months. >> peter, is this an act of passive aggression against the leadership? and i want to read you something i just saw from mike murphy on twitter tonight. speculative thought. 19 gop senators are up for re-election in 20 twept. what if three or four get corker eyesight and decide not to run and go bull worth now? something to think about. >> well, it is. yeah. and i think casey is exactly right. he's just put a couple another big, big items on an already packed agenda. not only do they want to do tax cuts they have to address financing the government and they have to look at the debt ceiling soon after that if they
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want to deal with these young immigrants with the daca program. there's a children's health care program that's expired. most mbz seem to want to restore the funding for that. there's a lot to deal with before you get iran and now these health care subsidies on the table. can they walk and chew gum at the same time? not a lot of effort about that. and the republican caucus is so poisoned right now in temples of the president. they're so unhappy with him. not many of them have spoeng enout the way bob corker has, true. if you go bull worth, that's an interesting question. as things go further south between the two you could see more of them begin to speak out, but they're also a little afraid. they're afraid of a bannon wing challenge in the primaries. he's made clear he wants -- steve bannon, the president's former adviser, he's already made clear he wants to challenge a lot of these establishment republicans in primaries next year, so there's a real nervousness among republicans on capitol hill and uncertainty about which direction to go.
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>> what a mess. i've never heard is so artfully explained, however. thank you. and casey, easily the best name for a show on this network since the 11th hour. casey d.c. day abuses 7:00 p.m. eastern time sunday evening. there's nothing else going on, no excuse not to be watching. thank you all. >> it's right in between the football games. >> i wasn't going to mention that at all. come up, what do the changes to this iran nuclear deal mean for our allies? all those americans in uniform, for the possibility of finding a diplomatic solution for north korea? all that and more when we continue.
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tont the "washington post" he had to recall board has weighed in on the president's decision to decertify the iran nuclear deal. the headline, quoted, trump has charted a perilous, their spelling, not ours, perilous course on iran. quote, in an act of political vanity and geopolitical followly, president trump has made one of the most serious national security challenges facing the united states that of iran, considerably worse. joining us now to talk about this urgent matter tonight, retired four star u.s. army general barry mccaffrey. nie ear hack is back with us.
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general, the question to you and it's a tough one because we're dealing with a lay audience coming to the news at the end of the day. what happened today to this deal, to this nation? what happened to our standing, perhaps, with our allies and around the world? >> well, pretty risky course of action. the president obviously is trying to apply a leverage on the iranians, who are causing huge mayhem and mischief in iraq, syria, lebanon, now in afghanistan increasingly. this accord that secretary kerry and president obama got didn't cover their many other lines of conflict, nor their bifl development program. now, the problem is his own secretary of defense, jim mattis said it's too late. we can't withdraw. we'll never be able to reimpose
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the sanctions. the european union won't stand with us, never mind the chinese and the russians. so it's hard to see what leverage he gets when the iranians can reead the "washington post" also. >> nie eara, how do you feel this affects our standing, our negotiating ability? how does it ricochet around the world and particularly the name one place, north korea? >> it makes it very difficult for the u.s. to bring anybody else to the table to have a negotiating position with north korea. frankly, donald trump is signaling that he would rather force regime change of the type that we saw on george bush and iraq. where the united states essentially went in alone to top ela regime. nearly two decades later hasn't worked out well for the united states in terms of national security and our allies are not with us in that fight. this is the same type of rhetoric that we're hearing about north korea. it sounds like a drum beat to
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war rather than any of the diplomatic overtures we should be seeing at this point to try to not only curtail iran's sp in developing the nuclear program which was the purpose and intent of the deal or occur tailing iran's regional activity, whether it's support for hezbollah or any other terrorist activities. those can be and have been addressed with additional sanctions. president levied some today. congress levied some several months ago. the idea of muddling these sanctions and activity against iran's terrorist elements and muddling that with the iran deal is what is very confusing for our partners because it puts them, our european allies in the position of having to now renegotiate and in a very public way without having any leverage or any understanding of what the u.s. goal is in the region. >> so, general, you travel the world a lot. when you look at actual damage thus far to our alliances,
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especially the ones that are so important to the united states, do you see any real reason for concern? >> well, by the way, i fully conquer with what nie year had to say on he's issues, particularly with iran. and has to be said horror. i think the president has lost almost all credibility with the international community. they're going to wait him out. so i wouldn't actually overstate the damage he's doing. i think the problem is we've got so many crises going on now potentially that he's overloading the diplomatic effort as well as the u.s. armed forces and our ability to deal with it. but i think president trump is no longer considered to be a rational actor in this dialogue. i don't want us to take our eye off north korea. the current language of the administration, the lack of a diplomatic and serious
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engagement strategy, in my view, has us sliding toward war by next summer. >> well, nie year, i've known the general for many years. i know him as a levelheaded man, not given to hyperbole. that is a depressing review of the planet and our alliances and nonalliances. do you conquer? >> absolutely. let's not forget to underscore this point, that the general also made. iran is now considered the rational actor in this scenario because iran complied with every aspect of the deal and in fact because the deal allowed the united states and other inspectors to take a deep look into what iran's activities are, there is also that element of intelligence efforts and gathering that frankly helped our partners like the israelis have access and information that they never had before. so in that sense by not certifying that this is in the united states' national security interest, we are now taking away a level of access and visibility we had on iran that allowed us
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to curtail lots of this behavior. moscow and beijing, we cannot forget about those two actors as well. when the united states reseeds from the diplomatic table, russia, china, they step up and they start moving a position that is not to the advantage of democracy and human rights around the world. >> and, general, when i hear you talking about a slide toward war, it should chill everyone within the sound of your voice, but we were supposed to feel better about the people, especially the experienced former military commanders around this president, the guys with some stars on their shoulders. >> well, i think what happened was you ended up with a national security adviser, general mcmaster and john kelly and secretary mattis slowed down the movement on the iranian deal. by the way, he hasn't withdrawn. the accord is still in place. >> right. >> in my judgment that congress is unlikely to reapply sanctions. so let's wait and see.
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>> what a conversation. >> what we do have to watch out about is getting out of this 90 day cycle of the potential to unravel another obama signature deal. that seems to be what the generals around the president happen to slow roll and hopefully donald trump will be distracted by something else, but this will come up again in 90 days. >> the timer keeps coming up as ours just did for this segment. our thanks tonight. thank you both so much for coming on on a friday night. another break and coming up, the president goes there again on puerto rico when we continue.
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i left texas and i left florida and i left louisiana and i went to puerto rico, and i met with the president of the virgin islands. we're going to be there. we have really -- it's not even a question of a choice. we don't even want a choice. we're going to be there as americans. >> for the record, donald trump is the president of the u.s.
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virgin islands. he met with the governor of that u.s. territory. this morning on twitter the president seemed to soften his position on puerto rico, writing the wonderful people of puerto rico, with their unmatched spirit, know how bad things were before the hurricanes. i will always be with them. later he appeared to pivot back to something closer to his original stance. >> well, you have to watch it. you can't say there was a hurricane and now we're going to spend x dollars. and we also have to do something with all the money that's been vaesed, mostly private. the government is going to have to come before that money because the government is going to want security. they're going to have to come before that money. and i'm sure we're going to be able to work that out. but the puerto rico people have tremendous spirit. when i look at what they have to go through, but they had a lot of problems. we're going to help them straighten it out. >> let's talk about a lot of it.
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welcome to you both. indeara, we have watched the president on this from the storm. people have called it trolling, victim blaming, talking about infrastructure, talking about the debt that puerto rico owns. in effect, blaming folks who have just had a tragedy upon them. i'm going to quote to you from eugene robinson, our friend and pugh litsier prize winning in the "washington post" today. headline, and ong puerto rico would be an impeachable offense. quote, this may be the most unamerican thing trump has ever said or done. i am serious that if he actually with draws emergency assistance while puerto rico is in such condition, congress should begin impeachment proceedings. presidents do not get to pick and choose which americans to help at times of disaster. indeara, last night on this broadcast nicolle wallace was openly questioning whether or
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not the president knew before this storm that puerto ricans were tax paying american citizens. he has since said that, you know, they can't have fema or the military forever. what do you make hf where he is on this issue and these folks? >> well, where to begin? >> yeah. >> first of all, nilk ollie wallace as we all know worked for president bush and she knows very well that for george bush his response to katrina was a real low point for his administration. and it was very difficult because his ratings went down so much as he was seen as not properly responding to that crisis. in fact, we see that now the latest quinnipiac poll shows that the ratings for donald trump are even worse than they were for bush after katrina. a majority of the country feels that he's not doing enough for our fellow citizens in puerto rico. but i agree with nicolle that it
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is quite possible the president didn't realize they were citizens, but more importantly, he probably does realize that they don't get to vote in the presidential election. now, something may change. if 100,000 puerto ricans decide that they have to flee to florida where i'm sitting right now, that could really put this state into swing state category if those people are quite upset with his response. so i think there are a lot of layers to unpack in his response. he was so positive with florida floridans and tankness saying we'll be there with you forever no matter what happens, but the hispanics in puerto rico don't get the same kbetic response from him. it's trouble. >> it would be malpractice for me not to ask you about the news we've just been alerted to thanks to kasie hunt and politico. corker has uncorked again against the president and the administration. quote, you cannot publicly castrate your own secretary of state without giving yourself
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that binary choice. this is the "washington post" headline, bob corker on trump's biggest problem, the cass trags of rex tillerson. jonathan, i read this quote earlier from mike muvry wondering if other gop senators are going to think better of running for re-election and if they don't, will they join corker in the kind of loud -- that wing of the republican party. is he just going to be this guy? >> i think that, number one, in terms of mike muvry, that's wishful thinking right now. i think most senators are going to make a decision about whether or not themtd to be in the united states senate and it's really not bad of a job. they get paid a reasonable amount of money. they get health care, et cetera. so i think most of them will probably hang on. what's interesting with tillerson and corker here is, number one, i think that corker is expressing a frustration that's held by a lot of people who believe in diplomacy, that our secretary of state is unable to do anything to really soften
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what the american position is and try to soften another country. so we see escalation with country after country. and then as he says, corker says binary choice of war or not war. if corker wanted to help tillerson, talking to a reporter and saying that he's been cast tratd does not help tillerson's position in any way shape or form. >> back to those incumbent senator, they're not going to enjoy being primaried by bannon wing nationalists either. >> no. and some of them will probably get knocked off and the bannon iet primary challengers don't have to be a hurn% successful to send a chill through the republican caucus in the senate. what you might see is senators altering their voting behavior as a result of some of that fear. >> thank you. coming up, a look at the scale of the devastation from california's deadly wildfires when we continue.
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in california the death toll is now at least 34 people as we are watching what is the deadliest outbreak of wildfires in that state's history. here are some more numbers. at least 256 people are still unaccounted for. 90,000 people in all are on the run without a home. nearly 6,000 homes and businesses are uninhabitable. earlier this evening we spoke with nbc news correspondent joe fryer in santa rosea. >> reporter: brian, here in santa rosea, some have described the destruction as a pok lip particular. all around us destruction as far as the eye can see. entire neighborhoods destroyed. in fact, the mayor here says in this city alone, more than 2,800 homes were destroyed, along with about 400,000 square feet of commercial space.
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some did not make it out in time. the death toll continues to rise. and many of those deaths are here in so notice ma county. homeowners tell us the fire came in the middle of the night when many were sleeping. by the time some realized what was happening, they say they had only minutes to escape. take john and jan pass co. they say their only option was to jump into their neighbor's pool and that's where they stayed for six hours as fires burned around them. >> and i looked out my window and there was a wall of flame out my window. so that's how fast it happened for us. >> we ran down here and we found our way into this pool and waited until we needed to get in. and then the fire got here and that tree behind us went up. and when that tree went up, it was hot. and that's when we got into the pool. >> this region is not out of the woods yet. a red flag warning taking effect
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tonight. wind gusts could top 50 miles an hour at higher elevations over the week, which has a lot of people here on high alert. firefighters have made some progress in the last couple days. they've put out a few smaller fires, and they've started to contain some of the larger fires. still, these flames are burning close to some neighborhoods and towns. that's why thousands are still evacuated. some tell us they do not know if their homes survived. we've now learned that one of the homes destroyed blopgd to the late great charles shuls, the create or of peanuts. his widow did make it out. also the mousse yes, ma'am here this town that pays tribute to schultz, that also survived. another well-known person, celebrity chef guy tearry. he has been organizing an effort with friends and she was to make food to feed thousands of people, first responders, evacuees and volunteers. brian. >> nbc's joe fryer reporting for us earlier this evening from
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santa rosea, california. okay. a final break. when we continue, the president's tortured relationship with one of the tools of the presidential trade when the 11th hour rolls on. jimmy's gotten used to his whole room smelling like sweaty odors. yup, he's gone noseblind. he thinks it smells fine, but his mom smells this... luckily for all your hard-to-wash fabrics... ...there's febreze fabric refresher. febreze doesn't just mask, it eliminates odors you've... ...gone noseblind to. and try febreze unstopables for fabric. with up to twice the fresh scent power, you'll want to try it...
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last thing before we go tonight, a kpils that comes with our thanks to our friends and prime time neighbors at all in. and while it's true that presidents say the darnedest things, this president has such
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an interesting relationship with a teleprompter, the magic glass panels upon which his remarks, like ours, scroll by. they are ricky things, and lord knows many of us have struggled with these things, but this president, who is if you think about it, our first genuine tv star president, has his own work around to make his mistakes sometimes sound like it's what he meant to say. >> authority and authoritarian powers. through their lives and though their lives were cut short. feels where women have been truly under representative, really i guess you could say underrepresented. ask very importantly, air traffic controllers will highly, and this will be highly valued. these are highly valued people. these are amazing people. >> just today during his speech on the iran nuclear treaty,
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there were some gems. >> is appropriate and proportionate to measure and other measures taken by iran. the iranian people long to -- and they just are longing to reclaim their country's proud history. prevent iran from developing an internet -- this is so totally important. an intercontinental ballistic missile. >> but earlier today, at his appearance before the values voters summit in washington, out of nowhere came a reference to furniture for children. >> they worked two jobs and sometimes three jobs. they sacrificed every day for the furniture -- and future of their children. >> as we said, these things are tricky tools of our trade. that's our brft for a friday night and for this week.
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thank you so much for being here with us. approximate good night from nbc news headquarters here in new york. good evening from los angeles. i'm chris hayes. we have two big stories tonight in the last hour or so in the op going investigation into the trump came and russian interference in the election. first, former white house chief of staff reince priebus, the man in the room for meetings with russian officials and who is reportedly part of discussions on firing the then fbi director james comey was interviewed by robert mueller's team and according to his lawyer william burk. he said priebus was happy to answer the their questions and a second piece of big breaking news and that is nbc news reporting that donald trump's former campaign manager paul manafort had a $60 million relationship with a russian olig arc. and we begin with reince priebus meeting with the team and the


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