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i will trash him with words, but i probably wouldn't do that. >> jane walsh, kerry sheffield, a debate clearly a lot are having. thank you for our show. chris matthew was here on "the beat." now he's on "hardball." stay tuned, chris matthew's "hardball" up next. trouble in alabama. let's play "hardball." >> good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington with an explosive story from alabama. according to washington post today, a woman has come forward to accuse republican senate candidate roy moore of forcing her into a sexual encounter back in 1979 when she was 14-years-old. moore is the steve bannon backed insurgent and former chief justice in the alabama supreme court who refused to remove a monument of ten commandments
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from his courthouse. he backs criminalizing homosexual conduct, an advocate blocking a muslim official from becoming a member of congress. according to washington post, he met the teenager at a courthouse. moore allegedly offered to watch the girl while the mother was inside for a child custody hearing. here is one of the washington post reporters who broke the story today, beth reinhart, let's listen to her. >> after the mother went in, he got her phone number and subsequently picked her up around the corner from herrous, drove her about 30 minutes away to his home in the woods twice did that. the first time there was kissing and then the second time he took off her clothes. he took off his own clothes, he touched her over her bra and underwear and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear. >> according to washington post, three other women interviewed by
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the washington post if recent weeks sigh moore pursued tell when they were between the ages of 16 and 18 and he was in his early 30s. none of the women say moore forced them into any sort of relationship or sexual conduct. moore called the story completely false and desperate political attack. his campaign said in a statement, judge rye moore has endured the most outlandish attacks on any candidate in the modern political arena. but this story in the washington post alleging sexual impropriety takes the cake. the "post" insists none of the women sought them out and were all initially reluctant to speak. on capitol hill the speed of response from republican senators was remarkable. >> it's very, very disturb wack i read about. i will have more to say after i learn more. >> is it true? >> obviously, from what i've heard about i am disturbed and it's very serious. >> well, senator john mccain
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said in a statement, the allegations against rye moore are deeply disturbing and disqualifying. he should immediately step aside and allow the people of alabama to elect a candidate they can be proud of. here's majority leader mitch mcconnell. >> if these allegations are true, roy moore should step aside for all the obvious reasons, very disturbing allegations. >> well, those sentiments there were echoed by at least ten other republican senators. the special election by the way is just 33 days away from now. if moore does step aside, alabama law says his name would remain on the ballot. republicans could attempt to mount a legal challenge to remove it. absentee ballots have been mailed out. i am joined by washington post columnist and nbc news' casey hunt, and the huffington post director howard feinman, this is
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a story of politics. casey, this story has certainly got a quick response from republican senators. they don't like what they heard here. the initial response it sounds to me go away. >> i think they already felt that about roy moore if they couldn't say it in public. you ticked through his other views that they were excited, they come around to accepting it. i think the speed and state forwardness with which they have ve jeked roy moore based on the allegations in this story is remarkable and i think it is a reflection of the cultural moment and the cultural change we are going through. i think it's more than the politics of roy moore and they found him to be objectionable. i think they found this something that cannot stand and i think there is an instinct now to believe the woman who is coming forward with these charges. >> 51 now. >> that is a new phenomenon.
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i covered capitol hill for years. this is something that you know there are people that you know you say, it was a bad idea to get into an elevator with strom thurman, few were on the hymn, you knew, you never talked about it. >> word of mouth. >> it seems like we heard from beth reporting this, they went down there, that's what they heard. they heard women talking about things roy moore did. they didn't feel before they could talk about it. but that's all changed now. >> it wasn't, it seems the "washington post" said these women did not come forward, but they answered the question. >> it seems like a credible story. the republicans were not that excited. >> he was to tttering. >> the polls have him up. this is a difference between washington and alabama i think a lot of people in alabama support ray moore. if these allegations continue, i think he'll probably lose, but he will not resign. >> is that the times we live in, no matter what the charge the, how true it is, it's still whose side are you on?
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it still comes down to the political polarization, if this were said about a democrat, these people would be jumping out, sending the guy to hell. this is the end of the earth for them, if it's one of their guys, they don't want to hear it. do you agree? >> there is an element, roy moore is a long quantity, he's been in the public square a long time. they don't believe the media. that's another part of it. >> howard, this gets to the point of the charge, it was more a countercharge by the moore people. they're saying that the dam "washington post" jeff bezos has a vendetta, i didn't think jeff bezos is a politic guy to go get their guy. >> chris, i would not assume roy moore is a goneer here, first of all his name is on the bat lot. >> do you think he post "washington post"? . >> we are in the post-harvey
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weinstein and post-trump era. the alabama electorate is more than half self identified eadvantage gel cals to begin with. >> actually, there is a brewing, howard, i think that's an excellent point. there is seemingly a divide emerging. it's still early, but republican party officials in alabama seem to be standing in some cases by ron moore. but there are evangelical leaders -- >> that's what it will take. >> this is not acceptable. >> i think that's what it's going to take. >> not morally acceptable. >> breitbart will stick with roy more, steve bannon will stick with roy moore, maybe a majority -- >> i'm not even convince thad the condemnations from senators in washington will necessarily stick. >> right. >> you mentioned ""access hollywood,"" a little over a year ago, there was severe condemnation from senators, from congressmen, people saying that donald trump should drop out.
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chaffetz said he couldn't look his daughter in the eyes and continue to support the republican candidate and then a couple weeks passed and they went right back to supporting the republican candidate. so i would imagine or at least i am nervous that despite these harsh words today that if he's republicans on the hill see that this story blows over in a few days, that republican voters don't actually believe the fake media, you know, that they think this is made up. then they'll move on and say, you know what, never mind, we're standing by our man. >> mitch mcconnell has a tough situation. he said if true he's got to go. on the other hand, if they offer a write-in candidate against roy moore, it's possible that would enhance the chances of a democrat winning. mitch mcconnell wants to keep a majority. >> i see the roy rogers statue all the time. you walk among these guys and women all the time. we're all i think pretty far distanced from him being a northern were.
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the evangelical pulpit, can they teach one thing, preach one thing on sunday and something different on tuesday when it comes time to vote? >> chris, i think this is about a child, a 14-year-old girl. this makes it different than some of the other allegations, you know, for better or for worse and i think that that's something that was immediately recognizable to all of the republicans, certainly that i talked to now. now the question is going to ultimately be, if he doesn't withdraw from the ballot, is there a mechanism in the senate? could they refuse to seat him? i think howard's right, it's not the end. >> the law is the, the law is if he were to stay on the ballot and to win the secretary of state of alabama has the power to declare it nul and void. so there still is a chance in alabama technically for him to be knocked off after the election ironically. >> that's going to be the question for republicans in congress. do they push for those things? do they push to actually take an
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action? >> these things are so long ago. you are almost living in a different universe with the guy you work for. i understand this. i'm with you on this you are innocent as hell, that's not the right phrase for it. you worked for dennis hastert. it turns out he had sexual misbehavior as a wrestling coach. so many decades ago. then it pops out, guys who have probably known this guy, i don't think he talked about it with anybody he knew, in other words, this is surprise information i think. this is not somebody like, a california guy, what's his name, harvey weinstein? people know about him, his behavior, this is behavior unknown, to all his political associates, always fellow people in the judgeship, in the court, on the bench, all of a sudden it comes out to this horrible thing with a 14-year-old. >> wait. wait. wait. >> go ahead. >> was this really unknown the way my "post" colleagues found out about this?
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>> you are reporting. i don't know. >> look. i didn't write the story. in the story, itself, the reporters actually say they found these women because they had heard rumors that moore had dated teenage girls, decades ago, so if they were hearing rumors just by doing you know on the ground shoe leather reporting, i am not ultimately convinced this was not an open secret. we don't know at this point. >> katherine, we're talking four decades, go ahead, howard. >> to agree with casey, the harvey wine teen thing changed. that's a month ago, that changed the atmosphere not only in hollywood but in politics. i don't know the timeline of the "post" reporting. i'm guessing some of those, it's bobble some of those women that kept quiet all these years decided in this new era, we're going to come forth here. i don't know the details. >> there were three women by lines on that "washington post" story. with respect to the "new yorker" who has done good work on this as well t. "new york time's"
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reporters were women. there is something different. this is something that women, we talk and in the work place all the time. >> to katherine's point, was this bubbling around his career this whole time for decades? >> my guess is, i didn't report the story, i don't know the specific circumstances, inappropriate do know as a woman in the professional work farce the last ten years, this is something women talk about openly all the time. we never before this last month thought anybody would care. >> you are the only one talking about it. >> i'm not blown away. >> here's a guy talking about the ten commandment frs, railing against homosexuals, open homonobody. all this is consistent with very concerned religious beliefs. i understand. when this pops up, how do they put that in conflict? >> they did it with donald trump. donald trump got the highest percentage of evangelical votes i think that anybody has gotten on the republican side, after everybody in the main stream
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media, all the media practically, declared he was a goneer after the ""access hollywood"" thing. it didn't happen. the evangelicals i know living in kentucky and cover the south. they want somebody to fight for them. they will overlook a lot t. question is whether as casey asks, are they going to overlook there? ened i think the answer in alabama may be yes. >> i want to leave you out of this one. you are a straight reporter. john, is he going to survive this? >> i don't think so. i think the most interesting thing. the republicans are already slow throwing shade on steve bannon. >> you are so moderate with your language, throwing shade. >> first of all, they hate bannon. moore was bannon's guy. >> that's my on it. >> will they elect moore? >> i wouldn't say it's impossible. i would not say that at all. >> katherine, do you think this is about to go all the way of the horror stories? i thought when trump said we have to punish women for abortion and that horrible stuff on the bus with billy bush.
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i kept saying, he's gone, he's gone. it never seemed to be he's gone. he had nine lives at least. las this guy got another life? >> well the thing trump had going for him was the supreme court. there were a lot of evangelical voters attached to trump. >> that's true. >> because they thought he was going to put a pro-life person on the urtco, which ultimately looks like he did. roy moore does not necessarily have that same card to play, but again, i do wonder if given our pom larized cliernlths given skepticism of the main stream media, if the voters in alabama says roy moore says this is fake news, breitbart says this is fake news, it must have been fake news, they won't believe it. it's not so much they will say it doesn't matter, maybe they'll say it's not true. it happened a long time ago. this is a smear campaign from the democrat party as a number of people said. >> i want to close it down. is there any chance of the mere
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mechanics, of the difficulties getting his name off the ballot, 33 days out? >> it could. i think the question is what do democrats do now? drots have not been going all in for doug jones the democrat running down there, despite some people, tim kaine has been a long-time supporter of his. he has been trying to convince his colleagues to spend money there. i think right now that's the only guarantee roy moore doesn't end up in the senate is if the democrat defeats him. >> i think it's a nuclear, a wave here, a democrat can win down there, most assured, thank you. coming up, an nbc news exclusive on that russian investigation. the president's former body guard is shedding new light to his trip to moscow four years ago. he says during a miss universe pageant a russian participant offered to send five women to trump's hotel room. the body guard said le turned the offer down. plus, tuesday's thrashing at the
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polls exposed a major vulnerability for republicans, they're losing intumpb voters, should they go all in or do whatever they can to distance themselves from trump? the requested hardball" roundtable is here on our breaking story tonight. the "washington post" reports on roy moore and allegations of a sexual misconduct with a 14-year-old girl, will this bombshell make him step aside, let me finish with my upcoming tour of the west coast. this is requested hardball" where the action is. ron! something's going on at schwab. oh really? thank you clients? well jd power did just rank them highest in investor satisfaction with full service brokerage firms... again. and online equity trades are only $4.95... i mean you can't have low cost and be full service. it's impossible. it's like having your cake and eating it too. ask your broker if they offer award-winning full service and low costs. how am i going to explain this?
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let's listen. >> right now, unfortunately, it is a very one-sided and unfair one, but, but, i don't blame china. after all, who can blame a country for being able to take advantage of another country for the benefit of its citizens? i give coin great credit. but in actuality, i do blame past administrations for allowing this out of control trade deficit to take place and to grow. >> president trump just defended those remarks on twitter saying, i don't blame china. i blame the incompetence of past administrations. how can you blame china for taking advantage of people that had no clue? i would have done the same. those comments are a departure from trump's tough talk as a presidential candidate. let's listen to that talk back in the old days. >> china, which has been ring us off, the greatest abuseer in the
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history of this country, china has been ripping us, i have many friends in china. they agree we me 100%. they can't imagine. they can't even believe that they can get away with what's happening. >> i will direct my secretary of the treasury to label china a currency micht tore. they are. they know it. >> we can't continue to allow carolina to rape our country and that's what they're doing. it's the greatest theft in the history of the world. >> okay. we'll be right back into that. i just got my cashback match,
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. >> welcome back to "hardball" in an interview with the house intelligence committee tuesday, our keith scliler offered previously unreported details about trump's time in moscow four years ago. nbc news is now reporting schiller told the committee after a business meeting before the miss universe pageant in
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2013, a russian participant offered this quote send five women to donald trump's hole ro hotel room in moscow. schirl said he turned down an offer on trump's behalf, who said they viewed it as a joke and immediately responded we don't do that type of stuff t. subject of special investigators attempted to investigate the dossier compiled by former british intelligence officer kris christopher steelee
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. >> i am joined by my panel. let me start, what is the advantage of us knowing that some character in russia told keith miller that he had something to bring over to trump's hotel room, what does that tell us? >> first of all, he is refuting under oath the salacious claims that trump was ka sororitying tapped idea of prostitutes were floated. he is admitting that under oath. >> how does that make trump guilty? if we knew nothing else? why would we think that is an occasion of sin? >> some say you can't imagine this offered to barack obama or george w. bush. >> isn't it to almost every person in russia? i heard a guy somebody cals you from downstairs in the a fancy hotel, an american business guy, somebody says, hi, may name is
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alana or whatever, you have to say no, it's coming at you. >> yes, that's right. i think what's important to understand is he's not there as barack obama or george w. bush would have been. right. he was there as a private businessman and business in moscow if russia is done often in a bath house in the presence of prostitutes, in some ways, i see it as like local hospitality. >> you are laughing, but you mean that? you don't mean that? isn't that courteous behavior to offer to women? or they use it as a chance? i thought they used it for blackmail. >> not exclusive. so, basically, anything -- >> how can it be mutually exclusive? if you are out to blacksmile, that's not a courtesy, that's like, do you want to drink? >> you are not black mailing anybody, you are checking stuff for a rainy day, everybody is guilty of everything all the time because for example the way business laws and tax laws and fire codes are written that laws
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are all inconflict with each other, so everybody is in violation with some law at any point. the law can be used selectively against him. this is one of those things. >> you hear about the value of knowing that the testimony was made by keith miller's body guard, that he, i don't know, under what circumstance he admitted. he admitted they were often five women. they didn't say prostitutes the implication was, i guess, what do you make of it all? it does sort of bring most people's head radio it to the dossier and their image of the two women in the room, you know, claiming the dossier by christopher steele. it all comes together in their minds. >> i think you have the importance of this. >> kurt schiller, i keep thinking of the football player keith schiller. >> i think you the importance is have you confirmation of something in the dossier and those who want to believe the tape is out there of this --
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>> does this do that, though? is this true? >> it does not. what it does it has the guy closest to donald trump saying it's not true. but also saying that he left donald trump in his hotel room that night. >> that he didn't stay with him, nobody would expect his bodyguard to stay with him all night. >> two beds, please. you don't have a body guard hanging in the room. you push back against the salacious allegations condaned in that dossier saying he was very careful in that stay in moscow. he knew everything he could do there is to embarrassment. let's talk about it . >> let me say what i do. when i loeave our country, i'm
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very high profile person, would you say? i am completely careful. i am surrounded by body guards. i am surrounded by people. i always tell them, anywhere, but i always tell them, if i'm leaving this countries, be very careful. because in your hotel rooms and no matter where you go, you are going to probably have cameras. i am extremely careful. i am surrounded by body guards, i'm surrounded by people. and i always tell them, anywhere, but i always tell them, if i'm leaving this country, be very careful, because in your hotel rooms and no matter where you go, you are probably going to have cameras. does anyone really believe very much, i'm a germonobophobe. believe me. >> he is in a competitive environment. they will use anything against the other side to get a better deal.
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>> first of all, he said this after he was briefed on the dossier. it's very easy for him to say, of course i knew they would have been taping me in a hotel room, whether he did or not. >> you said that was normal business, that kind of stuff. >> sure. >> donald trump is a hotel owner. >> can i just say, why do we think that donald trump is blackmailable even if there is a tape of this? there har has been a tape, it was the ""access hollywood"" tape where he grabbed about and did not step down from the ace. moscow is saying, if i have a tape, this is useless. >> expand on your point chris. the hotel the ritz home is notorious as an ssb honey trap. i was told keith schiller said he was aware of that donald trump is aware of that. that's one of the reasons he didn't believe this story is true. it's also the case that democrats were drilling down on him. sir, at some point he went to
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bed, you can't tell us anything after that in his hotel room? >> donald trump is business wise, he doesn't drink, there is no reason to believe he would put -- is it incredible to believe he's stupid enough to create porn movies for his enemies? >> is it credible? it's credible that anybody might do. that but at the same time we don't have any evidence of it. >> i normally don't buy the guy's fact at all. i think in this case he's not that stupid. i wouldn't say anybody, well, i don't know. thank you very much. julia, sophisticated. you guys talking with an expert team here. i don't know few want to be too expert on this stuff. ken delaney, up next, tuesday's election was just a couple days ago, exposed a weakness in republicans, they are losing ground with the suburban voters, is that solution more trump? i don't think so. how about less? this is "hardball" where the action is.
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hello everyone, here's what's happening. the man accused of attacking rand paul is not guilty to misdemeanor assault charges in a kentucky courtroom, he is accused of attacking the u.s. senator while he was out mowing his lawn. five police officers who responded to a shooting at a republican baseball practice have been awarded the u.s. capital police medal of honor,
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five people were injured in that june attack, including house whip steve scalise. a cold spot from canada is bringing arctic temperatures from the mid-west to the northeast. a cold snap will bring temperatures plungeing. back to requested hardball." >> welcome back to "hardball." with tuesday's election in virginia, especially through the trump playbook, it was fatal for republican ed gillespie. it also exposed a major vulnerability ahead of the 2018 congressional mid-terms, their appeal among suburban voters. the "new york times" writes the american suburbs appear to be in revolt against donald trump. vote rich washington suburbs by 20 points or more, even exceeding barack obama and hillary clinton's victims in the
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region. the "washington post" writes it's a canary in the coal mine for republicans and veteran strategist mike murphy told the maine paper donald trump the an an core for the gop. we got that message in loud volume in virginia. the canary did pass out. its head exploded. former white house strategist steve bannon said ed gillespie's problem was he wasn't fully on board with trump. let's listen to him. >> one of the things with the gillespie campaign shows you, you can't fake the trump agenda. you have to go all in and this agenda is a winning ape gen da. do not believe opposition party. do not believe the fake news and fake media. this agenda is what america needs now and to rebuild its future. and it's a winning ticket. >> i am joined by host of the
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"remix." thank you so much, james, what, you grew up in jackson hymn, we are always there, dorothys, we know that neighborhood very well. >> that is the inner suburbs. it's not fancy, it's suburbs. what do you think happened out there tuesday in delaware county? >> well, i think, there is a lot of activity in my polling place. a lot of excitement and energy around this election. you know this already, chris, i live in the kind of neighborhood where the candidates commodore-to-door and talk to folks. we always say all politics the local, chris, all politics are local, but there is a moment where national politics are really shaping people's inspiration to come out and vote and so people are responding to trump in this election lex. we say idz red, sometimes we say it's blue t. reality is it's one of these purple states, it's one of these states where republicans live next door to democrats, they make decisions
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based on how they see things happening at the local level and national level. trump is a disaster for many sort of suburban, you know, just regular folks who work hard, want to see a president who can conduct himself a certain way. that's the response we are seeing this week. >> i like to say about pennsylvania, my birth state is a real state. real people. nothing fancy, it's a mix of everything. but wouldn't it be a good idea for the democrats, it's not our job to advice them, if they can pick a candidate next time around who looks good in pennsylvania and the polling, i would say someone who can clearly win pennsylvania, not this margin of error crap, they've got a winner for the country. >>. >> i would igree, as pennsylvania goes, almost like ohio, as pennsylvania goes so does the presidency, but because of the complexity t. cities the rural, highly densely populated
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more rural areas in the center of the state, it can be indicative space for people to think of politics going forward. >> let's talk about the suburbs, any of the nice suburbs around the big cities, chicago, philadelphia and new york. they are likely to depart, unhook themselves from trump, tougher old neighborhoods like johns town, erie or scranton, they seem to be sticking, why would the suburbs be the first to leave trump as they seem to have done this week? >> yeah, i think, some of this is a return to form, chris, more than a revolt. right? because these are the same suburbs that came out strong for obama. there was some depression in these suburbs within they came for hillary clinton's campaign. that's just around a lot of the -- these are folks who are paying attention to national politics. they're seeing how this president is sort of prosecuting the trump. agenda.
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they're not seeing what the payoff is for these local communities around that kind of trumpism. this is a pretty diverse area, chris. this is an area that won't be anti-immigration. they understand the rationale for law enforcement and the challenges, so a lot of the trumpisms sort of go-to issues don't play as well in the suburbs of pennsylvania. >> house speaker paul ryan asked if republicans face a choice between the policies of president george w. bush and those of president trump. here he is. paul ryan. >> it's going to be a choice for republicans, bush or trump? . >> you know, he sounds like
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lionel richically in an old pepsi commercial. we made our choice. choice is permanent. you got to keep thinking, watch and judge the performance and not act like you are a non-thinking being. your thoughts. >> it doesn't seem accurate. chris, because at the end of the day, they western lock step with trump. they were never trumpers. throughout the whole process that speaker ryan is talking about, they were republicans who are very, very resistant, right from the beginning and during the campaign, during the president-elect moment. there are certain things that speaker ryan wants to get out of a trump presidency. he is looking at tax reform or tax cuts as one of the ways to do. that i hint a sense of regret even in that statement he just made, it's not accurate, chris, there are plenty of republicans resisting throughout the whole proce process. >> i think he's worried about them. they charb yeared his
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predecessor quickly. john boehner. good-bye, john, he doesn't want to be said good-bye to. up next, the "hardball" roundtable weighs from on the bombshell allegations against alabama senate roy moore and reporting from nbc news a russian participant offered to send five women to donald trump's hotel room during a miss universe contest and were returned back. you are watching "hardball." david. what's going on? oh hey! ♪ that's it? yeah. ♪ everybody two seconds! ♪ "dear sebastian, after careful consideration of your application, it is with great pleasure that we offer our congratulations on your acceptance..." through the tuition assistance program, every day mcdonald's helps more people go to college. it's part of our commitment to being america's best first job. ♪
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rejected a russian offer to send five women, that was the phrase to donald trump's hole room in moscow. for more on those stories, i am joined at the "hardball" roundtable. so, let's see, does anything really matter the way it used to matter? is it people used to say, well, conservative, cultural conservative, religious, don't like misbehavior by politicians. that used to be a reasonable category. after trump, you know, trump got the best evangelical vote in the history based upon his lifestyle. what are we talking about? there are so many sociopretty trick overlays and craziness, you are looking at me, i want to look what the hell is going on in the way people vote. >> the short answer is no, none of those things mentions matters. it's partisanship and tribalism, it's what team are you on. he's on mine, it doesn't matter
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what he did. you can already hear the republican senators getting ready to tip toe away, not from roy moore but from the defunsiations. >> monica lewinsky was not 14, she was young, way too young. the people on the right said this is the worst sin on the history of the presidency, right? >> it doesn't matter, ""access hollywood"" doesn't matter, they're saying, if true, what are they looking for, a videotaped everyday and dna from 1979? they're giving themselves leeway to pull back from this. >> john mccain making your point, it's about politics. john mccain did not wait. he said get him out of there. >> he hasn't waited previously in attacking things that he feels are affiliated with the trumpism and dangerous for america. i think what's been interesting is the number of republican lawmakers who have come out for the first time against roy moore in this conversation. roy moore has said lots of things and done lots of things that people should have spoken out against.
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this one right now for many of them was the last straw. >> one thing is this guy is tottering. there is a chance he could lose. >> there sure is. the thing is, this is so much a crisis in the gop's own making. they decide, a bunch of republicans decided to back him, despite a bunch of controversial statements he made, they are throwing their weight behind him. even with this russia stuff, this is a real overhang over the trump administration and the fact of the matter is, the republicans control congress, trump controls the white house, and this is some of what they have to show for it. >> here, i have been funding this all night tonight, i don't know how people say, because keith schiller says that some russian said i will bring five women over to your boss' hotel room tonight somehow incriminates him. some people on left, i listen to all day, this shows this is all true. no, it doesn't. it shows perhaps totally the opposite. as you said a moment ago, it's all tribe am, partisan, no
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matter what the issue is, go to your column. >> in fairness, i'm sure the russians meant they were accountants. check out his books. >> here you go. you are joining the rampage. >> we don't know and i'm not going to go so some tribal corner on this we don't know what that means. we know through all of this testimony, that salacious dossier, it's not complete fiction. there seem to be. >> how does it make it less fiction? >> because wear placed there. and if, you know, he's there at the miss universe and no we don't know if that salacious business about something that i'm not even going to say on the air waves tonight is true. but now we know, maybe that didn't happen, but he was offered prostitutes. >> no, frankly, his guy was offered them. >> and women who were accountants, we know the body guards stood at the door. >> teasing. you're teasing and laughing. you are doing what you accuse others of doing, i want your view on this. >> i think. >> first of all, is it possible to be an evangelical
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conservative republican who goes to church every sunday and think roy moore should get a pass on this? >> i think what we've seen is so many of that same group that supported trump, they overlooked the "hollywood access" tape, a number of comments, he made, his base sticks with him. >> three wives, not that that's anything wrong with that they would say that's about two, too many. >> the base sticks with him. does that transfer to moore? does the base stick with moore? we don't know that yet. >> i think there is a ugovernor huffingtop post that says only 8% of trump voters believe any allegations against trump. >> ha. >> only 8%. >> only one in 12 believe anything. >> anything. any of them. so whether or not this will translate to roy. >> they won't believe the amazon "washington post" if we stay sun is rising at 6:30 tomorrow morning. >> if you said tokyo is the capital of japan, i'm skeptical
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nancy, tell me something i don't know. >> what i'm curious about is does trump address the more controversy in his tweets this we know he's up, he's in asia are he's on twitter, he tweeted something about china and trade. he was a huge backer of moore. so does he come out in favor of moore? and also he may regret deleting all of those luther strange tweets. >> luther strange liked this story, didn't he. >> i think he did. >> the trump voter fraud commission is being sued by one of its own members. a democrat on the commission -- >> i saw that what's that about? is this commission going to find anything wrong? >> he's saying he can't even figure out when the meetings are, he says they're violating federal laws in terms of openness -- >> is this a phantom operation? >> it doesn't seem to be something that's clearly organized and visible. >> ha! you're being so careful. go ahead. >> we were lamenting poor vetting. but eugene and i had the same don't tell me.
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let me finish tonight with my travel for the next two weeks coming. i'll be heading across the country to speak about bobby kennedy, a raging spirit, which is getting a great response from people, not just progressives. there's heart in this country this man is touching. i'll be doing "hardball" from los angeles tomorrow night, "realtime with bill maher," on a two-person panel with michael moore, that's going to be something. donna brazile's also on that show. saturday i speak at scripps college in clairmont, california. then live l.a. in santa monica monday, the commonwealth club in palo alto tuesday, town hall in seattle with temple sinai
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thursday. "bobby kennedy: raging spirit" jumped onto "the new york times" bestseller list at number two, continues to tap into something good in this country, something pushed aside, but i'm glad not forgotten. that's "hardball" for you. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. tonight on "all in." >> all the instruments to try to destroy judge moore and his family, your day of reckoning is coming. >> the republican candidate for senate in alabama accused of a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl. >> there's only one relationship that's been alleged that's problematic. >> tonight the charges against roy moore. the defiant defense from the candidate and the right. and the ground-shaking implications for republicans in the senate and the trump agenda. >> the people of alabama, who i like very much and they like me very much, but they like roy. then, about tha

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