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that. you've been in the senate, twice presidential candidate. >> both times lost. >> what do you want to be remembered for? >> he served his country. that's my legacy. he served his country, hopefully with the word "honorably" on it. that's all. >> the american story. he once wrote, i'm the son and grandson of admirals. that's the first line of my biography. that's a fact that his captors in vietnam tried to use against him. mccain refused to let them and found himself using taps on the wall to communicate with other prisoners of war in his prisoner cell. he returned home 5 1/2 years later and spent decades in public life. in the end, he never became president, losing to george w. bush and later barack obama. yet, he resisted the changing of the guard in politics, often at
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odds with president donald trump and the two shared little more in common than their political party, and yet mccain did not yield. >> the most wondrous land on earth, indeed. i've had the good fortune to spend 60 years in service to this wondrous land. led for 3/4 of a century to abandon the ideals we have advanced around the globe, to refuse the obligations of international leadership and our duty to remain the last best hope of earth for the sake of some half-baked securus nationalism cooked up by people who would rather find scapegoats than solve problems. [ cheers and applause ]
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is as unpatriotic as an attachment to any other tired dogma of the past that americans consigned to the ash heap of history. >> remarkable. he was known by his colleagues in the senate as a man unafraid to reach across the aisle and unafraid of bucking his own party for what he thought was for the good of the country. one of his colleagues, amy klobuchar, joins me now from minneapolis. it's good to see you on this very somber weekend, but we've been remembering senator mccain here tonight for, of course, the accomplishments that he brought, but also for the man that he was. i know you spent quite a bit of time traveling with him. there was a new year's eve incident in the baltics, i'm told, among other things. what do you remember about him? >> well, kasie, i love how you captured his sense of humor and for him jabbing at you a bit in
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good humor, good humor, was a compliment. there is nothing better than when you're a democrat and got a call from john mccain, which i did several times where he would say, i just saw you on sunday morning defending immigration. he goes, pretty good for a communist. that was a compliment. and he was someone that just had a joy about his work, and, yes, as you know, he could get crabby, he could get intense, but he had a mission, and that mission i was reminded of the last time i saw him when my husband and i went out to the ranch to see him and cindy. he was frail but still showed that true grit as he talked about the issues of the day. he pointed to the line of one of his books, where he said, in the nothing in life is more liberating than fighting for a cause greater than yourself". and that's what defined his life. whether it was letting other prisoners of war being released before him.
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i stood with him in front of that cell in vietnam and saw how small the place was where he was tortured. working in the senate, as you point out, bucking his party on everything from immigration to being against torture, or whether it was his decision in a solitary moment in minnesota at that rally when that woman questioned barack obama's patriotism and he looked at her in a very polite way and said, ma'am, no, you're wrong, ma'am, he was a family man. he was a decent -- he is a decent person. that's what he said. and those are decisions, some were made over time but some were made in the moment, and that was john mccain. >> really demonstrated the instincts that he had in that moment. he also was known as being a mentor to other senators who cared deeply about the institution. it sounds as though he played that role for you. >> he did. i'm sure you can think of people in your life, men who came before you and helped you out and introduced you around, well,
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that's what he did to so many senators, especially women senators on the world stage. at times when we would be at meetings with all male leaders, especially in asia, and it was lindsey and me and john mccain, and, of course, john mccain would start, he was the head of the delegation and then they would all turn to look at lindsey graham. and every single time john mccain would look at them and say, i'm sorry, senator klobuchar is the democratic lead of this delegation. she will go next. he would in that moment telling them, no, this woman is someone to listen to. i can't tell you how many other women, democrats and republicans, have told me similar stories, and part of it may be that he spent his life surrounded by powerful women from his mother, who is still alive, to cindy mccain, who is an incredibly strong person, to meghan and the rest of the family. that may have sculpted who he was in those moments with women in the senate.
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>> rob to mccain, his mother, 106 years old. really, really remarkable. chuck schumer, your democratic leader, has proposed renaming the russel senate office building for senator mccain. is that something you would support? >> of course. i would think it is a very smart idea. it's a place, as you know, kasie, that john mccain when you talk about walking those marabl floors, it's where he walked for years. it embodies the tradition of the senate in that it's the oldest senate building. he was a student of history. every trip i went with him on, he was constantly reading books, world war ii books, taking the lessons of history which you heard in that talk that he gave on half-baked nationalism not so long ago and bringing them to the present. understanding what the threat of russia really meant. if i learned anything from him on foreign policy, it was that
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the lessons of history matter and that america is at its strongest when we are a beacon for democracies around the world and that we shouldn't shirk from that duty. >> senator amy klobuchar, thank you so much for coming on tonight and share yourg thoughts and reflections, i really appreciate it. >> thank you for capturing senator mccain with that moment where he was teasing you about your role as a journalist, because he did that so well. >> he did. and we really miss him in the halls of the hill, as i know you know. so thank you. i want to now welcome in my panel tonight. senior writer for politico and go cautioner of the politico playbook jake sherman. kevin mclaughlin. political columnist for "the washington post," karen tumulty. former adviser for senator john mccain and msnbc analyst mike murphy. thank you all for being here tonight. i want first, karen has written a definitive obituary of senator mccain, and, karen, you write in
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"the washington post," quote, when he acted like an ordinary politician, turning principles in the cause of ambition and experience, it was all the more jarring because of the standard he had set. in the years that followed, a question often asked was, which is the real john mccain? so which one is it? >> well, there really was -- john mccain had this code of honor that i think on the one hand both defined him, but i think it was also a burden, i think it also haunted him, because when he fell short of his own standards, he was in torment. you ask what was the worst moment when he was a prisoner of war, it wasn't being tortured, it wasn't all of those years of solitary confinement, it was when after having his arms rebroken he was forced to sign a sort of stilted confession. so, again, you don't see that sort of kind of internal, you know, that internal code of
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honor in that many politicians. so, yes, he was both of those john mccains. he was the john mccain who aspired to perfection and he's the john mccain who sometimes fell short. >> mike murphy, pick up on that point. you are somebody who worked with mccain in 2000 on that sort of improbable run that he made against george w. bush when he really earned for all of the country that nickname of maverick. >> yeah, well, he -- he was a rascal. he was driven by honor. his entire focus was serving with honor. but he was also human and he knew his flaws and he was very hard on himself because he was, you know, a flawed person like all of us. so -- and he was in the political world where you spend half your time trying to navigate mine fields with honor and the other half suffering fools, which took him some patience to do. >> i'm not sure he actually had
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the patience to suffer fuels. i don't know he actually had that patience. >> i think he had pretty remarkable patience. i was around a lot of the fools he was suffering and it was pretty remarkable in 2000. i think people miss it. which is, mccain would -- what mccain never liked in life -- excuse me. his favorite word, he didn't mean it but he did sometimes behind closed doors, jerks and bullies. he had an instinctive dislike of it. there is a lot of that foolishness in politics. what i thought he was very successful at doing in his career was put his own compass first and to hell with it if there was political trouble. he was also scott irish so he loved to fight. he loved to bring those two things together. he was very unique. there was no one more fun to work with, particularly in 2000
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when he had nothing to lose. it was a bank heist and he had a terrific time because he was allowed to be himself. it resonated in the country. >> mccain came up short twice in his bid for president. he lost the primary to george w. bush. and of course eight years later in the general election to barack obama. the campaign reaching its fever pitch in october of 2008, mccain, of course, could see the writing on the ball. >> i come here tonight to the al smith dinner knowing i'm the underdog in these final weeks, but if you know where to look, there are signs of hope, even in the most unexpected places, even in this room full of proud manhattan democrats. i can't -- i can't shake that feeling shot some people here are pulling for me. i'm delighted to see you here tonight, hillary.
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i don't want it getting out of this room, but my opponent is an impressive fellow in many ways. political opponents can have little trouble in seeing the best in each other but i've had a few glimpses of this man at his best and i admire his great skill, energy and determination. it's not for nothing that he's inspired so many folks in his own party and beyond. senator obama talks about making history, and he's made quite a bit of it already. there was a time where the mere indication of an african-american citizen to dine at the white house was taken as an outrage and an insult in many
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quarters. today, he's a world away from the cruel and prideful bigotry of that time, and good riddance. i can't wish my opponent luck but i do wish him well. >> kevin mclaughlin, where is that in our politics today? where is it? we watched how republicans reacted after charlottesville. it's so far. >> yeah. >> from what john mccain did right there. >> yeah. you know, i think it's been a long slog to get to where we are right now. to see him talk and think about 2008, i was in the mccain campaign in the 2007 primary and it was just brutal. i was in charge of radio and tv, when i talked to the right-wingers of the whole thing and john mccain was for the mccain/kennedy immigration bill and the surge in iraq and we would get crushed every day.
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>> there is this conspiracy theory, this signed confession. they call him a traitor. >> every day we would get to work and hope we get through the day. mccain, he had this ability -- in the military, they have a saying, do the hard right as opposed to the easy wrong. it total embodied him. he came back from iraq when he met the soldier who got shot in the eye and grabbed him by the arm and whispered in his ear, i'm pulling for you. he came right into the campaign office and he was a mess. he was off the plane and he was crying. everyone was crying. it made it so much bigger and easier to work in those terrible days. >> jake sherman, on capitol hill it's clear that people who have spent a lot of time up there, you know, really loved him, and republicans loved him. this president, though, not so much. >> no, definitely not. and i think part of it, i'm not -- it's tough to put anybody on the psychiatric couch, but john mccain, i don't think there is
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anybody in the senate or in the house who could go out into the world and meet with world leaders and have the gravitas that mccain has. he's almost like he was a head of state. >> yeah. >> when he is out there in the world, out there on congressional delegations meeting with people and leaders around the world. he commands that kind of respect. and thinking through the elected officials that we have now, there is really nobody else like that, but i think the president has had a long distaste for john mccain, for whatever reason. in 1999 in an interview with i think dan rather on "60 minutes" brought up the idea he was captured. this is something that has been going on for decades. it's not a new thing. >> i'm glad you make that point because "the washington post" is reporting tonight that president trump squashed plans for a white house statement praising the life and heroism of senator john mccain. current and former white house aides tell "the post" that the
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statement was drafted before mccain's death and it was ready for the president to sign off on it, but upon review the president reportedly decided he would rather post a brief tweet instead that read, quote, my deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of senator john mccain. our hearts and prayers are with you. "the post" is reporting, as well your colleagues, karen, that this white house statement would have called him a hero, praised his military service, and the president elected not to do that. >> it's sort of small on the president's part. it's reminiscent of him going and signing the defense authorization bill a couple of weeks ago, which is named for john mccain, and not mentioning john mccain's name. because it does appear that with donald trump everything is about donald trump. so he has a feud going with him and he will not let go of it, he will not look at john mccain in the larger lens of his service to this country, which was
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incredible and lasted for many decades. >> i think it's important to also note, if you look at george w. bush is going to eulogize john mccain. they had one of the nastiest primaries in recent presidential history. so it is possible to disagree with somebody politically and still be respectful when they -- >> there was very personal stuff in that 2000 campaign around senator mccain's daughter and yet he still, of course, extending forgiveness and asked, we're being told, that mccain personally asked both bush and obama to deliver those eulogies. much more to come on the show tonight. who will fill john mccain's seat and how he is shaping another race for senate in arizona. later, is the u.s. ready to take on trolls and fake accounts in 2018? we're joined exclusively by facebook's former chief security officer. he says no. we're going to talk about facebook's mis-steps and missed opportunities to get it right in 2016. i didn't believe it. again. ♪ ooh, baby, do you know what that's worth? ♪
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i'm have the good fortune to spend 60 years in service of this wonder rurous land. i've tried to repay it as best i can. i've been a big player in the extraordinary story of america and i am so grateful. not only was a finally on the bus, but i was going to get a chance to talk to senator john mccain. >> you are welcome on our bus at any time. >> let's do a lightning round. >> okay. >> your favorite book -- [ inaudible ] >> your favorite actor? >> marlon brando. >> close enough. >> if i were a tree, i would be
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a -- >> if i were a tree, i would be a root. >> what does that mean? >> senator, how do you reconcile the fact you were one of the most vocal critics of -- while you were chairman of the congress committee, that committee set a record for unauthorized appropriations? i'm just kidding. i don't even know what that means. >> the lighter side of john mccain playing along with steve carrel in a 19 the 9 episo99 epe daily show." kevin, we've talked a lot about the somber aspects of this. this is a guy who is real and personable and funny. >> he had a wicked sense of humor. whenever anybody asked what he was like, think of all the stereotypical straights of a
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fighter pilot and he had that. he was fearless. he was reckless. he was funny. he was arrogant. he was smart. he was hardworking. i mean, he was everything, and he really made it an amazing -- he wanted to aspire to be -- >> the thing i liked most about him as a human being was he was in touch with his shortcomings and very open about them. so while he was this heavyweight respected, seen as a head of state around the world, he still could touch, you know, the average american person because he was open and honest about his shortcomings and his failures. a really amazing quality. >> he reflected on the scandal as one of his worst moments. >> this was during the savings and loan crisis back in 1989. senator mccain and four democrats became known as the keating five. they served with saving and
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loans regulators on behalf of a donor, charles keating. john mccain said he was so horrified at his own behavior, even though of the keating five he got the least, you know, serious admonishment from the senate, but he said this is going to be on my tombstone, but it was from that that he really decided to pick up and seven years it took them to get campaign finance reform through. so it was just so typical of the way john mccain would handle his own shortcomings. in this case it was a lapse of judgement. >> another sort of correction he made to himself, jake, was the issue of the confederate flag, and this was back in the 2000 campaign when he said that he should not have stayed neutral on the confederate flag. that was something is that he later out and made a statement and said i was wrong to do that. here is where i stand. that was long before this became
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a real issue and something he had to backtrack. >> i think in a recent interview, probably his most recent interview on "the view" where his daughter meghan mccain is a host. a quite frail john mccain said that was his biggest regret ever, not speaking about that in south carolina during that primary. which is stunning. that's a long career. he brought that up twice. this is something that i should have been more vocal on. i should have been more forceful on as a national leader. so it's refreshing because we don't have politicians who do that in almost any way anymore. people don't reflect. people are dug in on their points of view and don't have any time for self-reflection. >> we're sort of ruled by the tyranny of the tweets, it seems. karen tumulty, thanks so much for being here. coming up on "kasie d.c.," my interview with a former chief
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democracy are still being detected. just this week, facebook said it removed 652 fake accounts, pages and groups after discovering new influence operations linked to russia and iran. meanwhile, in a new op-ed, former facebook chief security officer alex stamos writes, quote, in some ways, the united states has broadcast to the world that it doesn't take these issues seriously and that any perpetrators of information warfare against the west will get, at most, a slap on the wrist. he joins me now. mr. stamos, thanks so much for being on the show tonight. >> thank you, kasie. >> let's start with what happened in 2016. what did facebook know? what, in your view, and how did they fall short? >> so, there are really two different parts of the russian disinformation campaign in 2016. the first is a campaign that was
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undertaken by the main intelligence director of russian military, which is also called the gru, and that campaign was mostly focused on stealing information and then using that stolen information, in particular e-mails from the dnc and john podesta to create news stories and then amplify them that were harmful to hillary clinton's campaign. the second component was the trolling operation, which is mostly done by a group called the internet research agency of st. petersburg. that was a campaign that was much more -- it was particularly on twitter and facebook and aimed at heightening the tensions between different groups in the united states. >> do you think that facebook is taking this seriously enough now? >> i think so. i think all of the tech companies are taking it extremely seriously. their responsibility to find and stop disinformation. that's why you saw announcements this week from microsoft, facebook, twitter, google. that's not an accident. these companies are working together to find and stop these groups, but the problem is the
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companies can't do it by themselves. this is going to require an all of society approach to push back and deter these adversaries because in the long run in an open society like ours there is always the chance for this kind of disinformation and propaganda to be injected into social media and the media environment overall. >> did you try to raise alarms in 2016 about what was going on from your position? where you able to see that there was this nefarious behavior going on? >> so in 2016 we were really focused on the traditional types of cyber security threats from russia that we expected around the election, particularly the hacking campaign, and what we did see we turned over proactively to federal law enforcement. what wasn't of -- as something that we were looking into as deeply at the time was the pure propaganda activities. that's where i think the companies have really made big steps in the last two years to have dedicated teams looking for propaganda actors, as well as a bunch of technology that looks for that kind of coordinated
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inauthentic behavior of pushing these stories of what are sometimes called fake news, sometimes called disinformation, pushing those over and over again in front of people's eyeballs and trying to raise the divisiveness in the american society overall. >> mark zuckerberg has been criticized for not taking this seriously enough. how much personal responsibility do you think he and other tech ceos bear for this? >> well, you know, it's hard to say. we're at this intersection of these huge historical forces, and whomever the ceos were going to be of these companies, this was always an issue that we were going to have to deal with. when internet technology gave billions of people a voice, it also opened the door for entirely new manipulation we've never seen before. what i can say about mark is i know he takes this really seriously. he is really concerned about the long-term impact of the company he has built, and i think it's
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great that we've seen from mark and the other ceos them taking personal responsibility and getting personally involved with leading the response in 2018 and 2020. >> do you think that facebook has been transparent enough with its users in how it's dealing with this? >> this is one of those interesting changes in the last couple of years. it used to be the acceptable steps that a company would take if finding activity by a foreign country was to inform law enforcement, inform the federal government and let them handle the public aspect. what we're seeing is that that's not going to be good enough. so you've seen this progression, first with us publishing a paper in april of 2017 and then later in december of 2017, more information first coming out of facebook and then later out of twitter and google about the kinds of things we had found in 2016. what i think you're going to see now is this regular pace of all of the major tech companies coming out and saying in very short order after an event
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happens, we have found this activity, we have stopped it. here's what we know and here's what we're doing to stop it in the future. >> we know that one thing that the russians were doing was essentially trying to foment dissent on controversial topics. this comes to a head with alex jones after some pressure, critics call it censored but others say this guy is violating terms of service left, right and center and saying things that are, frankly, appalling. did facebook react too slowly to the alex jones issue? is there a responsibility in this context of security, election security in our political security, does facebook have a responsibility to take on figures like this? >> i see the alex jones issue a little different than the election security issue. content policies are a really difficult area. when it comes to alex jones, i
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think the focus has been, rightly so, on his mnailing individuals he disagrees with his and sending his followers after them. i also think we have to be really careful here. these companies are incredibly powerful. some of them are approaching 1 trillion in market capitalization. i don't think it's a good outcome at this time to have the massive tech companies effectively operating as a ministry of truth, deciding who is a journalist or not, what is outside the acceptable bounds of behavior. so i think they need transparent rules around the safety of individuals and to enforce that in a vigorous and, again, transparent way, but i don't think we should rush into the idea that the best way to deal with people like alex jones is to have them disappear off the internet. i don't think that solves some of the root problems that we're dealing with. >> one thing that we've also been grappling with here is, frankly, the speed with which these technologies have been
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invented and how that can lead to unintended consequences. i want to read from a memo you wrote. you said, quote, we need to listen to people, including internally, when they tell us a feature is creepy or point out a negative impact we are having in the world. we need to deprioritize short-term growth and revenue and explain to wall street why that's okay. we need to be willing to pick size when there are clear moral and humanitarian issues and be open, honest and transparent about our challenges and what we are doing to fix them. what do you say to people who feel as though they're perhaps not being listened to. do you think facebook is trying to live up to the standard you set in that momeemo or did that fall on deaf ears? >> there are a lot of good people who agree with me and those there still working on it. one of the strengths and weaknesses of silicon valley is we don't have a lot of memory. you have young people coming out
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of universities like stanford is not remembering the failures of the past. that makes them very excited and fearless in creating new technologies. they don't learn from the mistakes most of us older than them have made. one of my goals here at stanford and i think a number of people here share that, we need to start to imbue the next generation of tech leaders the understanding that technology will always be used to cause harm. we should understand how it's been misused in the past and will be in the future. if we're going to make mistakes, we shouldn't make old ones. >> are the 2018 elections under attack? >> i think what we saw is that the russian actors have not been deterred. they want to be involved in u.s. elections and their playbook is going to be picked up by a number of other countries. what the russians did in 2016 was not that technical
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sophisticated. there are a number of countries like iran, china and north clae that all have the capability to run the same playbook. i can't say what's going to happen in 2018, but i do know we haven't use the last two years effectively to prevent attacks in 2018 and we need to start thinking right now about the ways we're going to change our election infrastructure, how we're going to change the laws around online advertising and secure the election in 2020. we can't wait another two years to get seriously involved with deterring this action and securing our elections. >> alex stamos, thanks so much for sharing your insights tonight. >> thanks, kasie. >> good to see you. just ahead, new reporting on how republicans in congress are preparing for a potential blue wave and the investigations that could come with it. "kasie d.c." back in a moment. a. ♪seven billion swimmers man ♪i'm going through the motions ♪sent up a flare need love and devotion♪ ♪trade it for some faces that i'll never know notion♪ ♪can i get a connection?
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we have some brand-new reporting from axios out tonight on how republicans are preparing for the possibility that democrats will retake the house in the midterm elections. jonathan swann obtained a document that has reportedly been circulating throughout gop circles, including at least one leadership office, that lays out the potential probes that democrats will likely pursue if they flip the house. some of the investigations republicans are predicting, one on the president's tax returns, one on the payment to stormy daniels, one on james comey's firing, one at family separation policy and one on the hurricane response in puerto rico. jake sherman, that is a pretty short list. the list is actually much longer
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than the one we showed on the screen there. i feel like sometimes in our quickness to raise the specter of watergate and impeachment many on the left are discussing, we miss the fact there are a whole lot of steps in between and a lot of investigative power that the democrats don't have that they could gain in they win the house. >> i actually think impeachment would be a huge headache for president trump is the least of his headaches because he's going to have every single week democrats throwing out subpoenas, holding investigative hearings. i remember in the early days of the obama administration, even in the late days of the obama administration, republicans did that. darrell issa did that. this is a big -- >> i almost forgot about daryl issa. >> i never forgot about darrell issa. that's a big headache. we don't know who is going to be in the leadership of the house republicans right now. there is no way for them to prepare because we don't know who the top house republican is going to be. plus, a lot of the preparation
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has to come out of the white house because it's about turning over documents, it's about making witnesses available. it's going to be really messy and i've long thought, i agree with jonathan on this, i long thought that democrats -- republicans are not prepared enough for this. >> the white house definitely does not seem prepared enough, at least according to my sources. when we come back, we're going to dive into the dirty world of florida politics. plus, inside the race to replace jeff flake. states of play up next. p nextit. -keep going. stop. a little bit down. stop. back up again. is this adequate sunlight for a komodo dragon? -yeah. -sure, i want that discount on car insurance just for owning a home, but i'm not compromising. -you're taking a shower? -water pressure's crucial, scott! it's like they say -- location, location, koi pond. -they don't say that. your hair is so soft!say -- location, location, koi pond. did you use head and shoulders two in one? i did mom. wanna try it? yes. it intensely moisturizes your hair and scalp and keeps you flake free.
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who made the decision? >> i was going to fire comey. >> that is fire being pushed by the wind. our escort said we simply can't -- on tuesday, voters in arizona will cast their ballots in the primary to replace senator jeff flake. republican candidate kelly ward made her final pitch to voters on a bus tour where she was joined by a number of conservative voters, including one of the main promotors of the pizzagate conspiracy that lead to a shooting here in d.c. i asked her about that last week on the show. >> do you support his views, generally speaking? >> i don't really know what mike's views are. i know he's got an audience and we want to serve everyone. >> nbc caught up with her to press her on that controversial
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press appearance. >> attaching those things to me is ridiculous. we need to have a hook to get you guys interested in seeing the bus tour, and so, you know, just having a great candidate isn't always enough for the media sadly. you need someone to spin things up. >> and vaughn has been following the arizona senate race this week. he joins me from phoenix. what is it looking like on the ground there? and so many dynamics at play. now, of course, that all comes under the shadow of senator mccain passing. >> come this winter, arizona will not be represented by jeff flake or john mccain anymore. there are three individuals vying for that republican nominati nomination. none of them have stood or sung the praises of either jeff flake or john mccain. the one who has has been the democrat, who has marketed
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herself this summer across tv air waves as the western independent. i did not know john mccain like you did or like a lot of our colleagues, but i grew up ten minutes down the road from john mccain in arizona. john mccain represented me and my state as a u.s. senator. we will be looking at whether it is the likes of john mccain, that independent voice that will propel the state forward. when you look at this, this is a matter of a state that john mccain, back when he moved here in 1981, two years later he ran for congress in 1983. he was called a carpet bagger, but a lot of people came from iowa and new york. he took on the role that barry goldwater took. there is a lot of these roles that give the moniker of the wild west. but john mccain, it is the goldwaters, sandra day o'connor
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that long represented this state. in november, it was john mccain that won his race by 13 percentage points and donald trump that won his by just three. >> thanks so much for your reporting. i will see you in arizona tomorrow, my friend. meanwhile, voters in florida will cast their ballots on tuesday. president trump won the state by just one point in 2016. and both parties are pouring money into this race. while the president and his policies have dominated the news, voters ask is something in the water that could have a big impact come election day. >> politic ks be a dirty business any where, but in florida you could take that literally. toxic blue-green algae and a long lasting red tide packed a one-two punch. not just to florida's water. >> it is miles in every generation. i'm a second generation fishing guard. and my dad has never seen
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anything like this. i have never seen anything like this. >> the state that decides which party controls the u.s. senate is voting with environment. >> i think in this election, i'm pretty much a single issue voter. >> while governor rick scott and senator bill nelson are trying to slime each other -- voters just want a solution. >> the algae thing is i think a major crisis here. i'm a republican. i vote republican. but i don't know if i would vote for rick scott. but i won't vote for nelson either. >> it is the environment, not russia, not tariffs that's among the most important issues to voters. but one of florida's most famous residents is shaping the governor's race as well. >> that endorsement, along with
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one very trumped-up ad. >> then mr. trump said, you're fired. i love that part. >> jolted a lagging dissent, ahead of his gop opponent. all while showing the grass roots power of a trump endorsement. >> republicans have been in government for a long time. but with that trump endorsement, i think desantos is going to have an edge. >> meanwhile, democrats have tried to one up each other. >> i fought donald trump. >> donald trump is an example of a bully. >> the only candidate in america willing to stand up to trump. >> we think that trump is on the ballot because he's in virtually every ad. >> yet, it might be what's right under voter's noses that brings them to the ballot box. >> you can see images of dead fish and wildlife, but the odor has been atrocious. that will stick with me when i walk into the poles. it will motivate me.
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>> and casey, i think that there is a really interesting dynamic that i'm watching for on tuesday. it is this shifting republican party here in florida. a fox news darling and an outsider when you consider the fact his opponent is a fifth generation florida man. he could show the republican party here in florida that once nominated and elected someone like jed bush is very much different in 2018. casey? seems like those days may be behind us. thanks so much. great reporting. when we return here, what to watch for in the week ahead. wat. more? got a company i can trust. that's a heck of a lot more. over 75 years of great savings and service. you can't argue with more.
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before we go, let's talk about the week ahead. kevin? >> they have until friday to get a nasa deal. it will be interesting to see if the administration gets that done and arizona primary tuesday. >> how trump handles himself in a week that's going to be about john mccain and whether that matters for the re-elect. people will be turned off if
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trump dumps all over john mccain. >> i am heading to arizona tomorrow to attend that primary and the funeral for john mccain at the end of the week. that does it for us this week. we will be back next week from 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. good night from washington. this sunday, the passing of an american original. john mccain died late yesterday, four days shy of his 82nd birthday. a prisoner of war. >> i fell in love with my country when i was a prisoner of someone else's. >> elected to the senate six times. >> this is a man we all want to watch. his name is john mccain. >> senator obama as achieved a great thing for himself and for is country. i


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