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how the gold card can serve your business. in our in-house tv feed here at 30 rock you can do a quad box, so you're one tv screen is opened up on your computer. but it shows four tv networks live feeds all at once. while hour show is live, producers will have one script open, research and that is in one part of the computer on another window on the computer they have something that looks like this, the quad box. honestly the reason we have something like this up, live during the show is that may be something is going to happen in the world that is a very, very big story and for some reason here at nbc we didn't know about it but everybody else is running
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with it, like a fail safe we will get a head's up there is something else big happening in the world live at the same time that we're doing our show if we missed it for every other reason. it's a little bit weird but this is live television and part of what it means to work in live television. they showed me we can put up a live one right now can we do that? just for a second, this is live, this is what it looks like. here's me, up here in this box. and then this is what's happening on some of the other networks. this feature in our work life gave rise to what totally should have been the "the rachel maddow show" christmas card this past year. this screen shot of the quad box on our show, live during our show on october 20th of last year. this was the screen shot. this is what was happening on fox newschannel at 9:24 p.m. that day, this what was happening at cnn at that time, cnbc, was in a commercial break and the "the rachel maddow show" oh, yeah, that was when we went to the man cave, remember that? that was where we tried to explain the workings of the lady
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parts by talking about them in man-friendly metaphors, because there was something going on in politics that day that did not make sense unless you also understood some specific things about anatomy that don't always get well explained. so happy friday. this is a fair warning, the man cave is about to come back. i realize this is not a ratings play, right, flipping around the channels, people are not going to flock to this show because we're doing freshman year human biology again, i recognize this is not exactly viewer attractant. i feel like in order to be responsible about what's going on in the news right now, we are sort of forced to do this. because once again, the biggest news in american politics is about very important, very powerful, supposedly very smart people in politics not understanding the basics of human biology. and it's because once again, the biggest story in politics, frankly, was broken on msnbc in the 1:00 p.m. eastern hour.
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if you make a habit of watching me at 9:00 eastern, that probably means you are at work or school or doing something else at 1:00 p.m. eastern. i don't think there is much overlap in life style alone between this show and andrea mitchell's shown at 1:00 p.m., if you can watch at 1:00, you probably can't watch at 9:00 or vice versa. if you're dvr'ing anything on tv during the day you should dvr the andrea mitchell show. her show has been breaking news essentially every day. the biggest stories in politics happen on andrea mitchell's show, more often than they happen any other single place in the media. the komen foundation defunding planned parenthood, the huge news story, that broke wide open on andrea mitchell's show. that was the komen foundation interview where they tried to justify their depunding of planned parenthood and sparked all that outrage that led to them reversing course and undefunding planned parenthood.
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that all broke wide open on andrea mitchell's show. also the rick santorum zillionaire guy, him saying women don't need birth control they ought to put an aspirin between their knees, where did that happen? that happened on andrea mitchell's show. senator olympia snowe of maine, her shock announcement that she was retiring from the senate. nobody thought she would quit, nobody had any idea why she was doing it, her first interview she explained herself, andrea mitchell's show. i don't know why it is not more of a national phenomenon, but andrea mitchell's msnbc show at 1:00 eastern breaks so much news it's unbelievable. there's almost nothing like it in media, period. and today, at 1:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc on andrea's show, it happened again. >> you were in our green room getting ready to come on and the white house now tells us we can reveal that you just got off the
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phone with president obama. >> yes, i did. >> the stakes have been raised high what did he say to you? >> he encouraged me and supported me and thanked me for speaking out about the concerns of american women and what was really personal for me was that he said to tell my parents that they should be proud and that meant a lot because rush limbaugh questioned whether or not my family would be proud of me. so i just appreciated that very much. >> yet again on andrea mitchell's show the biggest story in politics broke right here on msnbc. the woman speaking with andrea as you probably know, was sandra fluke, a georgetown university law student, sparked the where are the women controversy in congress last month. the republicans in the house darrell issa's committee called this panel of witnesses to testify on the issue of contraception being covered by health insurance. when the democrats realized the republicans were not calling any women in their initial panel of witnesses at a contraception
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hearing, they asked sandra fluke be called as their democratic witness, to testify about getting insurance through a catholic institution, that would not cover birth control and how it had cost a friend of hers one of her ovaries. the friend needed contraception not for birth control purposes, but for therapeutic purposes, birth control has a lot of therapeutic purposes other than preventing getting pregnant. but because ms. fluke's friend had to navigate around the georgetown universities objections to her prescription, it ended up being too late for her. she suffered serious consequences, she lost an ovary. that would be sandra fluke's testimony about the importance of health insurance covering contraception. the republican chairman darrell issa said she was not qualified to testify on the issue of contraception coverage but these guys were, he said. some democrats walked out of that hearing that day. house democrats under nancy pelosi later convened not technically a hearing because democrats are in the minority, they can't convene hearings,
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but the democrats convened a forum in which they heard that testimony from sandra, the testimony that darrell issa would not allow. republicans wouldn't allow it at the official hearing, the reason the president ended up calling sandra fluke today while waiting to go on andrea mitchell's show, because conservative radio host named rush limbaugh who's very influential on the right has been making the case on his show for the republicans' position against contraception coverage. he's been making that case by personally attacking ms. fluke. it's not like mr. limbaugh slipped up and accidentally said something offensive and maybe he'll apologize because he didn't mean it. he has been doing it for three straight days now. this was day one. >> a georgetown university co-ed told nancy pelosi's hearing that the women in her law school program are having so much sex they are going broke apparently
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four out of ten co-eds are having so much sex that it's hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception. said sandra fluke's research. can you imagine if you're her parents? how proud of sandra fluke you would be? your daughter goes up to a congressional hearing conducted by the botox filled nancy pelosi and testifies she is having so much sex she can't afford her own birth control pills. what does it say about the college co-ed susan fluke who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex. what does that make her? it makes her a slut, right? it makes her a prostitute. >> that was day one.
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the word we cut off was prostitute. he was calling her a hooker. that was day one for mr. limbaugh, wasn't like a slip of the tongue, right? this was day two. >> ms. fluke, have you ever heard of not having sex? have you ever heard of not having sex so often? ms. fluke, and the rest of you feminazis, here's the deal, if we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something for it. i'll tell you what it is. we want to you post the videos online so we can all watch. >> today, mr. limbaugh was still going for it. that was day two. today he's still going for it. here is a sampling of what he had to say today. >> it's no different than if somebody knocked on my door, that i don't know, and said i'm out of money, i can't afford birth control pills and i'm supposed to have sex with three guys tonight.
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>> after those remarks and after democrats bringing attention by saying they wanted republicans to denounce the remarks or distance themselves from them, president obama called sandra fluke to buoy her against the kind of attacks which after all started because she wanted to testify in a public policy issue in congress. the president said specifically her parents ought to be proud of her. which was she said was a nice thing in particular given the way mr. limbaugh attacked her. and that was the biggest political news story of the day. the president weighing in and putting republicans on the spot to go ahead and say whether or not they believe it is attitudes like mr. limbaugh's about women and sex and birth control are driving the republican policy position that he supports, driving the anti-contraception effort going on in republican party politics right now. while i think that is legitimately big political news the president weighing in here, here's the thing about the talk radio part of this. i know a little bit about this for having been a talk radio
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host for years, but it doesn't take expert knowledge to know how this works. people like the talk radio host in question, mr. limbaugh, are banking, literally banking, it's how they make their money, are banking on you being offended by what they say. mr. limbaugh is trying to be provocative, trying to be offensive, trying to outrage you, trying to get you to talk about him even if you don't listen to his show. he wants to be very, very famous even if it for being a bad guy. this is what his radio show is for, this is what he does. he calls the first lady michelle obama uppity. he calls combat veterans of iraq and afghanistan phony soldiers. if they disagree with him on those wars. he made fun of michael j. fox's parkinson's disease and said michael j. fox was faking the effects. a person does not say stuff like this and act like this accidentally. you don't stumble in positions like that, right? it was because mr. limbaugh did
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not get enough attention for calling this georgetown law student a prostitute and a slut that he went back the next day and tried to get more attention by saying anybody who wants insurance coverage for contraception ought to be forced to put their sex tapes online so he can enjoy them. a person says a thing like that to provoke outrage. and it works. outrage is provoked. mr. limbaugh's remarks denounced from the president of georgetown university to the co-chair of the republican senate campaign committee, to his own advertisers. the blog think progress has been tracking reaction to mr. limbaugh's remarks from his advertisers. at last count, four companies have decided to pull their advertising from mr. limbaugh's radio show, another four have said they will look into the matter. listen, when you shock people for a living, when that is your business plan you are playing with fire a little bit, you can go too far, people lose their shows. there is a reason why glenn beck is only on the internet now, right? so maybe losing all these advertisers and being this over the top will be it for rush limbaugh. maybe he's gone too far and maybe he'll apologize but
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probably not. this is what he does for a living. he has done this for decades. here's what i think might actually be the more important point here. the specific way in which rush limbaugh is being offensive on purpose to make everybody outraged, exposes a big underappreciated and sort of embarrassing fact at the center of all the politics on the issue. which is that i don't think he knows what birth control is. i'll play one little part of it again. try to listen to what he's saying not just for what is offensive but listen to the point. listen. >> ms. fluke have you ever heard of not having sex? have you ever heard of not having sex so often? the women in her law school program are having so much sex they are going broke buying birth control pills.
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she is having so much sex she can't afford her own birth control pills. apparently four out of every ten co-eds are having so much sex it's hard to make ends meet if they have to pay for their own contraception. >> if you can put aside the fact that mr. limbaugh is being mean, right, remember sometimes people are being mean because the fact that they don't understand something makes them angry. and it makes them act belligerently, i think rush limbaugh doesn't know what birth control is, i think he doesn't understand what he's talking about. i don't think he understands how contraception works. i think that rush limbaugh thinks you take a birth control pill to avoid getting pregnant each time you have sex, so the more times you have sex, the more birth control pills you need. we're talk about birth control that is prescribed, that's the whole point here, prescription medication. that is why we need to be covered by the health insurance.
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you don't like get a new iud every time you're going to have sex. you don't have to go buy an individual birth control pill to cover each sexual incident which might result in you becoming pregnant. you just take one pill every day. it's a prescription deal, right? you take the birth control pill every day even if you won't have sex at all that day or even if you're going to have sex 1,000 times that day, you just need the one pill for that day. you don't need more birth control to keep you not pregnant for more sex. >> have you ever heard of not having sex so often? >> it doesn't matter how often you have that does not increase the number of pills you have to take. rush limbaugh is acting like a jerk to make us mad. everybody's mad, right? as we should be. but more important, in showing his ignorance he's helping us get back to the real problem of the debate, generally. the heart of the issue is the fact that you're bad at this, rush limbaugh, you don't understand how babies are made
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let alone how people can have sex without making a baby and you would like the government to take over decisionmaking on these issues on your say-so and you don't get it. you biologically don't get it. you were absent that day. in your radio studio or capitol hill or campaign trial or in the state legislatures, these guys are saying we know best, government should be making these decisions about women's health. we've got it all figured out. and frankly this is not a talk radio problem. this is also mitt romney's problem on the issue. mitt romney told mike huckabee he would support a constitutional amendment that would define a fertilized egg as a person. a personhood thing. even before mississippi voted that down, mitt romney said he would have supported that at the state level when he was governor of massachusetts. mississippi said no to personhood because the personhood amendment wouldn't just ban all abortion, a personhood amendment would probably ban hormonal contraception as well.
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mitt romney says he is all for contraception but he would support personhood. >> you were on governor huckabee's show a few weeks ago and one of the things that you folks talked about was that you would support a life begins at conception amendment. now, that would essentially mean banning most forms of birth control. 98% of american women, including me, use birth control. so could you help me understand why you oppose the use of birth control? >> i don't. i'm sorry. life begins at conception, birth control prevents conception. >> what she is asking mitt romney is the right question and he has no idea what she is talking about. you can see he looks puzzled and makes the joke, is there something i'm not getting here? yes, there's something you're not getting here. yes, mitt romney does not understand how contraception works. this is how the birth control pill works.
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it's how the iud works, the morning after pill works, that ring thing your girlfriend told you about that you didn't totally understand, this is how it works. this is how birth control that is used by the vast majority of american women works. this is how birth control works that mitt romney told mike huckabee he would like to make illegal. when he said he supports a life begins at conception constitutional amendment. that's what we tried to explain with the man cave diagram way back in the day. mitt romney doesn't understand what contraception is and he's running for president. rush limbaugh doesn't understand what it is and he is reveling about the nation being outraged. president obama, he made national news by calling the woman rush limbaugh has been calling a slut and a prostitute, calling that woman before she went on andrea mitchell thereby weighing in the dispute. does president obama understand what contraception is and how it
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works, i don't know, i kind of assume that he does. but the point is, that there is a difference between the two parties on this issue right now. and it may be doesn't matter if he gets it. because he's not and the democrats aren't playing doctor on this issue. they are not saying that the government should be the ones who make the decisions about contraception and how your lady parts work, you should make that decision with your doctor. privately. government doesn't have a role there. so yes, rush limbaugh is a jerk. but more importantly, rush limbaugh is a dummy and if you want government making decisions on child birth and abortion and fertility and contraception, you being a dummy is a way bigger problem than you being a jerk. y. can febreze remove it. [ moderator ] describe the smell. it's very pleasant. some kind of flower maybe? awww, oh yuck! [ male announcer ] febreze air effects doesn't mix, it actually removes odors. so you can breathe happy. spark card from capital one. spark cash gives me the most rewards of any small business credit card. it's hard for my crew to keep up with 2% cash back on every purchase, every day.
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last year, three states governed by newly elected republican majorities got new policies. that set off big weeks of big protests with big real consequences. in ohio, a bill to strip union rights in that state led to a citizens recall of the law in november. ohioans who support union rights and democrats delivering a million plus signatures, five times the number they needed to put the bill up for referendum and that referendum they won. in wisconsin another law stripping union rights resulted in delivering more than a million signature to put the governor up for recall. after he pushed through that bill. ohio, wisconsin, the third of those three states was michigan. michigan had probably the most radical idea in republican governance. republicans in the state of
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michigan revamped the emergency manager law in the state, one person can rule unilaterally, over whole towns and school districts. your vote doesn't count anymore at governor rick snyder's say-so, one overseer can fire the officials your town elected, sell off your town's property, it can even move to dissolve your town. no vote. you don't get a say. when you add up the places they are using the law or threatened to use the law, public act 4 in michigan has been on pace to strip local voting rights, local democracy from more than half the african-americans who live in michigan. the state says it's for their own good. democracy must go. now maybe that is beginning to change. a group of activists is trying to put michigan's bill up for a citizens recall. >> these are the public act 4 petition boxes all on a table lined up, 218,000 plus
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signatures. whoo! so excited. awesome. this is what democracy looks like. >> organizers gave the 50 boxes of signatures to the michigan secretary of state this week. they turned in roughly 60,000 more signatures than what is required to get the recall on the ballot. some of michigan's democratic members of congress asked the state to please ensure these petitions are handled securely so no one can tamper with them. michigan's secretary of state has made the statement that she will make sure they are safe. these are not millions of signatures, these are thousands. it's more than they technically need, not much more and they have to be certified. it's true this what is democracy sometimes looks like hard slog, you and your friends and allies and hope that what you've got is enough. the people delivering the signatures rode to the state
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capitol from flint, detroit, benton harbor. they are asking their votes count as much as anyone else's vote counts in michigan. in essence the minority asking the majority to vote for the minority's right to have a say. african-americans in michigan have asked this question before. back in 1850, 1850, the state held a referendum on equal suffrage to colored persons. by popular vote, the majority of the state of michigan said to the minority, no. michigan considered the so-called negro suffrage issue again in 1967 and, again, the answer for michigan was no. african-americans in detroit finally celebrated in 1870 when the u.s. constitution was amended to protect minority voting rights. the constitution. the constitution, to protect a minority's rights from the whims of the majority. but now this week, the counting
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begins in michigan on potential recall of the single most radical policy put in place by any of the republican legislatures and governors elected in 2010. a recall that if it happens, will take the form of a majority of the state of michigan, voting to reinstate the voting rights of a pretty powerless minority in michigan. by definition, rights are not supposed to be put up for a vote. then again they are also not supposed to be taken away in the first place. joining us now is someone who was there this week when they dropped off the petitions, reverend david bullock, president of the highland park, naacp and detroit chapter of the rainbow push coalition. reverend bullock, thank you so much for your time tonight. >> rachel, so happy to be on the show, thank you for having me. >> we have seen in ohio and in wisconsin these huge joyous crowds turning in petitions for their recalls, on controversial republican policies in the past couple years. what happened in michigan this
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week from here looks smaller, but no less joyful, i have to ask you as someone who was there, what has it been like to work on the petition campaign and what was it like to turn in the signatures? >> it has been a tremendous journey. it's a tremendous tug of war, hard, hard-fought, we had to climb up a steep mountain but on wednesday, we. >> reporter: overjoyed. many didn't think we'd be able to collect enough signatures to put this referendum on the ballot but we were successful. we're excited about that. >> your campaign has been framed as i described it as an issue of voting rights in effect the minority asking the majority to give those rights back at the local level in michigan. to what extent do you think that race factors in here, or do you think this is something that would have happened to cities like it's happening in michigan regardless of the racial make-up of those cities? >> we would like to believe because of the election of president barack obama that we live in a post-racial america but i think we've seen, thus far, with all of the racial
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slurs and the racist jokes, even the joke that has recently come out from a federal judge in montana that we don't live in a post-racial society. public act 4 has been implemented in a way where over 50% of the african-americans in michigan, their vote is null and void. benton harbor, flint, highland park, coming to detroit, so i do believe there is a racial component to the implementation, but not just race but also class, because african-americans and then low income communities. so we must stand up and fight not for the black right to vote, not for the white right to vote, but for the citizens right to vote. >> in the abstract, i feel this is one of those issues i mostly want to yell every sentence, i want to put an exclamation point on it, because in the abstract, the idea you would fix a place that's got trouble in the united states by taking away voting
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rights, by taking away democracy and installing somebody who can rule in a autocratic way, in the abstract that rubs americans the wrong way and it just feels wrong. we solve our problems through democratic means. it's the whole idea of america. in michigan, people have shown to be willing to make the trade off. we'll fix the problems by getting rid of the democracy. how do you make the case, how do you make the argument to people willing to see it happen all these years? >> well, this is how we make the case. some say a rising tide raises all boats. the right to vote is our boat and so if you don't have a boat, a rising tide drowns you, we must remind both citizens in michigan and around the nation that voting is what makes us americans. democracy is what allows our society to work. and when you strip communities of their voice and their vote, you disenfranchise them in the most sacred and fundamental way. we have been going around the state. we turned in 50 boxes, 226,000
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signatures, 24,000 petitions. and that is a sign and symbol that folks in the state of michigan are not going to let go of the rope in this tug of war. we will not stop until we secure our franchise. >> reverend david bullock, thank you so much for your time tonight. i look forward to uk toing to you about it. i hope you keep us posted. i know this fight continues. >> thank you very much. >> coming up an odd personal ad, mitt romney seeks humans, an odd new match. that's coming up. [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation, every solution, comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance.
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it's friday. and on the interview tonight, it's one of my pop culture heroes. spending all those long afternoons in my tween years staring at mtv finally paid off. and i thought they would have sort the it out by now but yet more states in the 2012 republican nominating contest produced muddled results that are being challenged, rightly, by the candidates. challenged by the candidates. the glorious mess coming up.
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tv is on in that room, i will ignore my food and my drink, which is something for me. i will ignore my company. i have to watch the late box. i can't escape the loving glow. i think it's in part i grew up watching great tv. i watched the early best days of pro wrestling, before it got like it is now. i watched the dawn of mtv, when it was still music on television and there were v-jays and when it wasn't just music videos and v-jays, it was shows and news that was vaguely about music. i watched the 700 club when pat robertson was saying he could heal people live on television. i'm sorry whenever you think about pat robertson, tv does not get better than that. it's like crack, totally addicting. the best stuff i grew up watching was already old when i watched it and i'm old. the best stuff i grew up watching was reruns, i love lucy, gilligan's island, brady bunch and this show.
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which i used to watch obsessively in reruns on early mtv. ♪ here we come ♪ walking down the street ♪ we get the funniest looks from everyone we meet ♪ ♪ hey hey we're the monkees ♪ we're too busy singing to put anybody down ♪ >> that opening credit sequence is so engrained in my audible and visible memory i can't believe there was ever a time i did not know it. it is foundational to my american culture dna. joining us for the interview, a man touring as part of the monkees as recently as last summer, e-mailed us who got in touch, when we learned the sad news the front man for the
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monke monkees, davy jones passed away of a heart attack. our guest is peter tork, i have to say -- mr. tork -- >> that sounds like an old person. >> i feel like an old person talking about what i used to watch. i watched you i was obsessed with the monkees, i'm so happy to meet you. >> same here. you're a hero to my family and me. >> really? >> we come from that side of thinking. >> the tracks? >> political tracks. to hear me explain why i am so impressed to meet you, is it weird to you that kids in the '8: -- '80s like me in part learned what the '60s were like by watching you on mtv? >> i hadn't thought about it in those terms. everything was incremental, but in the meantime it's only a step
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at a time and then the monkees came and went, and then a reunion, there will be a reunion, okay, step by step, make the reunion thing happen. going to be on mtv how lucky for the tour, that will be great. >> you went in to reruns at the same time -- >> the mtv ones -- >> at the same time you were getting back together. >> as far as we were getting back together. >> it was coincidental, a shot from on high. >> the monkees were formed for television, the capitalize on the success of the beatles. what did you think of the other guys in the band when you got put together with them? you weren't an organic band. somebody put you together, what did you think of them? >> what did i think of the guys? >> yes. >> over the long run or first blush? >> first blush. >> that was strange, you guys are the monkees, that was strange. how do you do? >> over the long run? >> i have liked and loved and respected each of them in different ratios, i don't want to go much further than that. particularly now.
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>> you don't have to answer this. the reason we are talking is because davy jones has passed away. from what i know about your history, you guys at times used to fight like cats and dogs and at times were very good friends and sometimes all that at the same time. did you continue to have a tumultuous relationship like that, even recently? >> the realist answer that i can think of we were like a high school championship basketball team. we were there for a purpose. what happened between us as people was entirely irrelevant as long as we worked as a team when we were on the floor to carry that metaphor on. so yeah, there was some stuff. there are tell-all books out there that tell most of it. yes, there was some stuff. as i said, i have a lot of affection and respect for all of thosguys. in different ratios.
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and gosh, one of the things about talking about davy's passing, a lot of people called up, do you have a reaction? well, yeah, i have reactions. first of all, the british expression gob smacked like being hit with a wet fish. i was called upon to talk about the best of the man and i was -- it was something to be reminded the day-to-day business of doing the concert, we always had a quick hug we were able to do whatever we were doing on stage but things came and went but we just ignored that. by and large. we were lucky that way, old pros, you can ignore it. >> are you happy when you think about your national image that you are -- because of reruns, because of the continuing popularity of the band, it happened so long ago, happened in the '60s but you are, through the continuing popularity of the
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monkees, you're sort of in the time cup sal in terms of what the beatle mania era was like in america. do you like that? >> i don't have an opinion one way or the other. compared to what? you know? there i was and part of me goes very peculiar, part of me says my father taught school, i taught school, this is a job. part of me goes, my god, what's happening? all over the map, feelings, the sentiments. >> you reaching out to us on the occasion of this news this week about mr. jones was kind and i am happy to meet you and i pay a lot of attention to you when i was growing up. i'm really happy to meet you. >> thanks. i pay a lot of attention to you. >> peter tork from the monkees and from my childhood.
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october 2002. mitt rom my is trying o get elected governor of massachusetts. 2002. he is summoning business leaders in the state and uses a power state president entation to exp why they should vote for him as governor. he was also being videotaped by someone who was working for his democratic opponents. those people are usually called trackers now. you find people openly taping every political vent. but back then, filming your opponents meant crunching down in a seat with a video camera light you were bootlegging a movie. this footage, this very shaky footage was just obtained and released today by abc news. from the footage we can tell that during that event in 2002, one of the things that mitt romney told the group of leaders is this. you're just going to hear his voice here. listen. i'm a big believer in giving money where money is.
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>> what he's talking about there is how great he planned to be at getting money from the federal government for massachusetts. now that's politically awkward for him now because he's been attacking rick santorum as a guy that way too much federal money from his home state of pennsylvania as a senator. but that basic concept, i like to get money where the money is, it's turned out to be kind of a way of life for mitt romney. true when he was looking for pork from the salt lake olympics. that is the example he was using. i have a ton of money from the federal government. the principle he used when running for massachusetts. you saw him promising to do that there, his campaign. getting money where the money is meant getting money out of the federal government for mitt romney. now that he's running a presidential campaign, getting money where the money is means that he's been raising all of his campaign money from where the money is, from rich people, right? it's stark. of the $60 million plus he
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raised, less than 10% came from small donors, people who gave him $200 or less. less than 10% of donors gave $200 or less. the other 90% are big dollar donors. mitt romney is relying more heavily on large dollar donors than any other major presidenti presidential candidate in the last 12 years. romney campaign is trying to change that. for the first time in this campaign, mitt romney is now asking regular human beings for money. >> i need your support. i'm asking for you to get out and vote. i'm asking for you to go on mittromney.com and pledge your support never way possible. >> you're used to the candidates giving their web addresses all the time. it's in a new dot-org. all the other candidates dropped the website address into the speeches and stuff all the time. but this week in michigan, that speech you just saw that, is the
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first time that mitt romney ever done this on the campaign trail. you'll notice, can we play the sound again, the crowd actually laughs at him when he does it. listen. >> i'm asking for you, by the way, to go on mitt romney.com and pledge your support in every way possible. he's such a kidder. oh, wait, he's serious. it wasn't that just one mention and that one speech. that was first. now the romney campaign is trying to raise money from regular human beings. the "l.a. times" reporting on two separate small dollar fund-raising pitch that's the romney campaign launched. they sent out a fund-raising e-mail, donate $3 to be automatically empntered to be mitt's special guest. they also asked for $20 contributions to fight the obama attack machine. they have two problems with this strategy. first, mitt romney up to this point has just been raising his money from other people who are like mitt romney, right? he's only been raising money from other rich guys.
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and there it is again, right? when he is soliciting money, he's basically just talking to wealthy people. to his credit, he has come up with a really great pitch to wealthy people. look, look what i'll do for you. a new analysis shows that wealthy people will make out like bandits under mitt romney's tax plan. the romney plan would give the top 1% of earners an average tax cut of $150,000. those making a million dollars or more will receive an average tax cut of a quarter million dollars. so come, brothers. let us reason together. clearly if you're a wealthy person, this is the campaign for you. so that's one problem. mitt romney is going where the money is because, in part, he has a message that really works for rich people. it is harder for him to make that same pitch to the people at the bottom of the economic ladder who will pay more taxes under mitt romney's plan. but here's the other problem with this. if you are a working stiff, if you're a bottom of the economic ladder kind of person, the kind
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of person that might think about making blue collar campaign donation, how do you look at a guy like mitt romney, and he has a couple cadillacs, want to make a $10,000 bet, how do you say yeah, he needs my $3 more than i need my $3? in 2008 when he ran for president and lost to the guy who lost to barack obama, mitt romney put $42 million of his own personal fortune into his presidential campaign. this year, zero. he put in none. he would like you to fund his campaign instead. even if you like the guy, is that really a compelling pitch? >> how much money do you have? >> well, you tell me. i'm kidding. actually -- >> i'm not running for president. >> it's between $150 and $200 million. i think that's what the estimates are. >> and he doesn't want to spend any of that money on his campaign. help a brother

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