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well. after more than twelve years of military occupation the u.s. and afghanistan have finally come to terms for a tentative bilateral security agreement that will stop the role of troops in the country until two thousand and twenty four secretary of state john kerry and afghan president hamid karzai reached the accord on the heels of the loya jirga or afghanistan's grand assembly however just today cars i said that he would delay signing the agreement until after the presidential elections in april twenty fourth team and with these negotiations one point of contention has been the number of criminal incidents which afghan civilians have been executed via night raids or
drone strikes that kerry said an apology on behalf of the us for these instances is off the table if the security agreement is approved it will cement the notion that the war in afghanistan is far from over and it will extend well beyond the twenty fourteen deadline or bridgeman set by obama of course the u.s. has also promised to continue funding afghan security forces so if bin ladin dead for years and no clear goal of why the u.s. is so keen on staying in afghanistan i'll break it all down i'm joined by ray mcgovern former cia analyst thank you so much for coming in right welcome so ray what do you think the outcome of the security agreement is going to be and why do you think hammad karzai is kind of stretching it beyond the presidential elections well karl rove karzai was cole by our ambassador in a kabul i can bury as not an adequate strategic partner and didn't you show that today kerry was mousetraps and thinking how to deal karzai goes and tells the jirga. look you know we have to vote on this and i'm not sure i trust the u.s.
they don't trust me and so we're all oral in this is what i can bury worried about that once you have a reliable partner to work with you're up to this trick without a paddle and also you know that i can very said this way back in november november nine of number six of two thousand and nine he said you know i think that karzai would like to have us invest even more freely in there because he thinks that the u.s. is just interested in in fighting it in eternal war on terror and permanent military bases to have influence in that immediate area well i can very had it exactly right karzai is acting that way it's an insoluble problem as long as the populace nani's play the game of feeding the insurgents to park their studies or or loyal allies of course and this whole question of of the supply of
the we used to call the. supply and the resupply of weapons you know they're becoming very difficult and the afghans have the the cudgel there to church and often the time they want which they've done for several months now it's almost like he's trying to pass the buck while still maintaining a colonial ally that kind of saying oh no you know i'm looking out for the afghan people which they pretty much the and i as a puppet carries made it very clear that despite this deadline that combat mission will still be over race still in two thousand and fourteen i don't know what that means there's still going to be troops on the ground and plus the one hundred eighty thousand private military contractors going to be there how can combat not be engaged with this sort of force and playing with words as long as they have these night raids as long as they can do what they want with the persian permission of the local authorities of course they can do it they want so. we're trying to
address this thing up in a way that can be sold to the jirga i'm not sure it's going to be able to be sold they have a situation like the one in iraq just as bush was leaving where he tried to get this kind of agreement and he couldn't and the reason he couldn't was because of the brutality that was shown by u.s. troops against the iraqis he couldn't he couldn't get them to buy an agreement that would allow the u.s. to prosecute these kinds of crimes i think the jirga may end up doing exactly the same thing question and now yeah in which case the u.s. will have to you know have to withdraw and you know the right wing in this country is saying well you will have lost afghanistan we never should have been there in the beginning it was a fool's error error and i don't know what possessed. barack obama to heed the advice from those struggle to die it's very clear you know his generals are bobby gates yeah the search over stuff you know. that didn't work or
a history that didn't work in iraq look what's happened a failure this was you know this was another search this was a war and that they sold him to surge into afghanistan and then saying see it's the same time but we're going to pull back you know pull out well i don't know what general thought that was a convincing strategy clearly and one of the sad things here is i can barry had it right he was a military he was a general lieutenant general and he had spent years and years in afghanistan working with the afghans trying to train them and all and so he came in with his advice to obama in november of two thousand and nine before obama made his decision as to have a surge there and he had no reason non-secret nobody to listen to him even though he said all these and it's insightful thing and here we are on the verge of these horrendous war crimes being uncovered from afghanistan i want to call them and this is just really shocking it shows you kind of this extensive cover up going on by the u.s. military with these afghan security forces what do you think about this and what do . about the part in the security agreement where kerry is saying by the way
a small part of this is that we're going to have immunity for all of our soldiers here i mean what kind of message does that send that's not a small part that's the that's the crux of the deal that's what a status of forces agreement is all about so again. it shows some sort of democratic procedures and thinks about what they've seen in afghanistan these incidents that you referred to i think it's really problematic i think kerry probably thought he had a deal a card who knows what cargo is going to play but karzai has got us where he wants this if we if we leave will have no permanent military bases though it's a permanent it's a enduring and we want an enduring military bases ok so that's the name of the game just as it was in iraq we lost out in iraq on the military bases but we got the oil western companies are in there big time so you know fifty fifty now with
afghanistan. i don't think we're going to the program permanent military bases there are nine of them or six of them up there but i also don't think we're going to get that pipeline that takes that rich deposit shaklee guess dream had wandered on. top the plate and i wanted to bring up this other crazy story just for me i just saw yesterday another revelation senator g.m. shot heene is claiming that u.s. soldiers are being killed by terror groups that were actually financed hundred fifty million dollars plus why do you want us government i mean right you're a former cia analyst how something like this even happened without any oversight of her own ability whatsoever well there is a inspector for this kind of thing john coord think is a minister and he sees a form for her security says what i saw with. these funds and to the taliban and other bad guys there call made my hair stare. and. ok
and so you know what's really going on here well when karzai says i think the americans are playing a double game here and actually funding or helping the taliban well maybe that's what he's referring to if millions of dollars every month are going from these contracts with the army lights to the taliban to the canid the worst of those guys well i can't i prefer to believe it's misfeasance but it could be you know the generals you're sassoon have this war on terror and as long as you keep these guys going we'll have the war we'll get another little star appear and. you know keep this terror terrorism churning out you know let's talk about o.p.m. what last month actually saw record yields up twenty five percent from last year how does this realistically play into the larger picture of the occupation because i find it extremely hard to believe that the u.s. is spending billions of dollars locking up millions of people for nonviolent crimes
all over the us in prisons yet at the same time harboring and protecting the deadliest drug in the world in this country two things and that the prison corporate complex in this country makes a lot of money out of the person it was here not so much over there the other thing is that this is a real problem i mean russia iran all you know all the all the surrounding areas are really plagued by the by the open access to this opium and so that could be a good thing because the stakeholders here could be brought into a sensible arrangement where we can leave afghanistan without just leaving it in the lurch in other ways to get people to sit around a table mature people figure out how we address this thing so the worst doesn't happen that could let us get out with some measure of dignity but isn't already the worst ninety percent of world heroin kyra it's the largest opium den. it is but we
can kind of get together and you know and limited i think i hope so i mean you know looking at it it seems like that's almost another coincidental you know unfortunate accident or a i just you know i don't put anything past this government thank you so much for coming on breaking down this really complicated issue ray mcgovern former cia analyst well i'm sure time you. stick around guys after the break i'll tell you about what may be the most people law firm in the world. live. live live.
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on the table. as long as they are based on equality there is a process and respect for the inherent tries so iran and its people should afic i believe there is a window of opportunity at the moment but we have yet to see how serious the americans are about using it. in which negotiations only a week ago the prospect of a deal with the round was tantalizingly close then the french played the role of spoiler to the great delight of israel nonetheless negotiations continue much is made of the technical side of the talks in fact this is a side show but these negotiations are really about is the issue of trust. and guys out of all the horrible law firms in the world i think i finally found the
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u.s. and how they break down this volatile situation and it's a likely outcome of what it all means for us i'm joined by b.t.s. producer of animal rock below what is up there how are you what's going on man or so why should we care about hunters elections oh i mean these are pivotal elections i mean it's a huge year just on the pull route it's a big word plurality. ideology plurality you know that is a lot easier of ideology alone it's massive and if you look at the country's history when it was born and raised there are these elections are actually. going to show a side of hunters. that i don't think it's ever been seen before in the country's history it's a history dominated by dictatorship followed by civilian government followed by dictatorship and military. coups and then civilian government since the eighty's we've had civilian government rule and democratic transitions take place but then in two thousand and nine there was the coup which you mentioned just a little while ago i think that what we're seeing right now just alone we have
eight different candidates running on very very different platforms you're having a breakaway from the establishment politics of the past the parties that were established by the united states similar to republicans democrats here where you have that kind of domination by a tea party that's something that we're seeing a move away from in honduras and that's being reflected in the policies that are being presented so you're seeing anywhere from propositions and you mention the high level of violence some of the candidates are proposing more militarization of the police while those that are saying you know let's disband the military altogether fall a model similar to. i think that the biggest. thing that we're seeing come out of this right now is a move by very popular candidate which assume out of castro the wife of deposed leader. who was ousted in two thousand and nine kind of a move toward the socialist bloc in latin america and while she has a lot of support from the working class which by the way is the majority the population the it's
a very poor nation she doesn't have the support from the all the in the ruling elites and more importantly the military who was responsible for the ouster of the president in the first place so i think this is going to be a very pivotal year wow i mean this is really significant i mean we have a country that's kind of been propped up by the u.s. and a lot of. interests going into that country as we as you just mentioned i mean we're funding essentially these death squads these military police squads as you said earlier to me that there could be multiple vice presidents because of how divided this really is what talk about really it's amazing we're talking about a. hundred and twenty eight. deputy seats that are up for grabs and like i was saying i mean eight different candidates we're looking at an outcome of three different vice presidents for the country there is not a likely outcome we're going to have more than forty percent of the population vote for a single candidate so regardless of the outcome you're going to have a majority of the population completely dissatisfied with what the outcome and what
we're going to see as a result is a multitude of different ideologies representative within the country's congress and that in itself. it's not necessarily going to be within the interest of the united states which is seeing honduras following in the same lines of guatemala bolivia and several other countries in latin america falling farther looking more towards the global south looking more towards the the socialist bloc the alba countries in south america and away from the policies of the united states that have sort of dictated the policies of hunters in the past talk about where this violence is stemming from because people really don't understand honduras other than war zones i think it's the second most violent country in the world other than syria where is this violence coming from and what's up with all these political assassinations going on it's really become systemic in the country i mean we're a country of eight point five million people there's on average daily twenty homicides twenty people are killed by a violent crime and this is it's not an inherent problem this isn't something
that's just that's just the way things are in honduras i was actually born and raised there before i moved to the united states like many other people do decide to stay here because of the level of violence because of how dangerous and unstable the country is in two thousand and nine following the coup that was a sort of power vacuum in the country so where mexico for example was enjoying these great success in moving the narco trafficking and moving the gang violence south took full advantage of the power back in going on in honduras and they seized on that the they had the weapons they had the money so you know this century they were now in cahoots. the all of works of the country that are now in cahoots with. the narco traffickers gangs and even the police are there's a high level of corruption there and you were mentioning the death squads and yes the united states and this is something one of the few things that you do hear about in honduras is that the united states has for many years now been funding these death squads are the interests there we have got a minute left one of the u.s.
interests on where the u.s. interests the same as anywhere else in the region of the world they do this under this guise of democracy building and under this idea that they're fighting this war on drugs that the dark katic swore and i think that this is such a it's such a fallacious argument it's really really sad because what they're doing is they're pouring millions of dollars into a police force that is operating under an umbrella of complete impunity in the country as a result you have police going out and just killing people at random almost so not only are the gangs the narco traffickers responsible for the high level of violence but so are the police the police are actually and during this they're doing this with the full support of the united states and even the funding and funding from the united states we need to get you back on to talk about after these elections are over what changes we can see there are limited amount. of time and. this week marks the anniversary of the assassination of john f. kennedy but it also marks the birthday of another kennedy one whose life was
tragically cut short as well robert francis kind of a he would have been eighty years old c r f k was on his way to becoming president after serving a senator from new york attorney general the u.s. and close political partner to his late brother john kennedy over the course of his political career he was always stern in his convictions having resigned from a senate subcommittee investigation because of then senator joseph mccarthy's intimidation tactics during the red scare during kennedy's tenure as attorney general he launched a campaign against the mafia as organized crime it was a fervent advocate. for civil rights in fact it was already paid to deliver the news of dr king's assassination to an almost all black audience and urging the crowd to embrace dr king's message of love and unity instead of letting hate and anger blind them after winning two state primaries he was shot on one of his campaign stops by a twenty four to four year old palestinian man i'm so handsome and died just over
one day later and what controversy surrounds the assassination of his brother drawn there are still plenty of and answered questions over what happened to robert early enough the inconsistency of the official narrative near his brother's death for example according to salon dot com the forensic evidence from the event groups there actually twelve bullets fired that day their hands or hands gun we held eight this is just one of the many oddities regarding robert's death so many in fact that even the l.a. coroner refused to conclude that so hands around was the lone perpetrator. unfortunately will probably never know what happened r f k or his brother or what would have happened if they had lived but there's one thing we do know his powerful message still resonates today. cannot continue to deny and own the demand of our own people bending billions in the name of freedom
elsewhere around the globe no nation can exert greater influence or power in the world that it connected over the street on capitol. beyond. but it is not beyond our control. but more tenet than one throat like begin to twinkle from the rock a long day waiting. on the ground with many boys. my friend it's not too late to think anew what we're. i come to you today and say that we can build a newer and better nation i think we can do. that we might do you know and that we will go.
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