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tv   Breaking the Set  RT  August 23, 2014 11:01pm-11:30pm EDT

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thank you melissa. what's happening to folks i'm having martin this is breaking the set so with the enormous amount of journalists still in ferguson missouri you would think that no story regarding the ongoing protests would go uncovered but apparently no major news network thought to follow up on one of the more disturbing events to come out of all of the unrest see last tuesday local resident my white was shot in the head by an unknown perpetrator just after midnight while walking back to a car from a protest thankfully the bullet that hit or was not deadly she was even able to post this poto over ambulance ride on instagram after nearly a day doctors determined it was safe to remove the bullet from her forehead and successfully completed the surgery but according to a white when she awoke she was told that the cops had confiscated the bullet for
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evidence as she expected local police to come back to the hospital to follow up with her about the shooting because she wants to know who shot her except that interview never happened in fact according to eighteen whites attorney marwan order he quote talk to both the st louis county police department and ferguson they have no record they have no file number no report they don't have anything this despite the fact that a st louis county police spokesperson previously claim that the incident was a drive by shooting and were looking for five male suspects a white claims the only five men she saw were those who helped her after she was shot listen no matter what the real motivation is behind this conflicting information coming from officials this story once again shows the absolute incompetence of ferguson and st louis county police when it comes to serving the people of the community as frayn wife she says she has no interest in local police handling her case anymore and would rather the department of justice take over
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can't say i. lamer and let's break the sat. please. please. please very hard to take kindly. to. that act with the earthquake there. following the collapse of got another city's fire between israel and hamas the only
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update to give is more deaths at least eighteen suspected informants for israel has been executed by hamas according to palestinian center for human rights a month long conflict has resulted in the deaths of two thousand and sixty nine palestinians nearly a quarter of whom are children compared to sixty seven that on the israeli side only four of which are civilians as extreme disproportionality of civilian casualties is also shifting the public support for israel's bombing campaign among the voices calling for an end to the israeli aggression in palestine a seattle city councilwoman the want who recently sent a letter to the white house stating quote we call on president obama the u.s. house of representatives and the u.s. senate to issue a formal statement denouncing israel's siege and walk out of gaza and the occupation of the west bank we also call for an immediate end to all u.s. government military aid for israel strong or not everyone shares some wants views
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of the conflict. so when she joined me earlier to discuss her letter i first asked her about the backlash she's received this concluding from a former colleagues i'm sorry her current colleagues on the city council. i was not surprised by that at all and you fact one of the good political outcomes from taking such a courageous stand is to expose to working people to everybody who is concerned about social justice and who has risen solidarity with the people in gaza to show them that the political establishment the establishment that. aligns itself with the democratic and republican parties do not stand for social justice the entire balance of u.s. foreign policy has been towards israel you stage two words giving the funding to enable this violence that has been unleashed for decades on the people of gaza and the outpouring of support from ordinary people on the street from the c.l.o. community is really revealing of how it was politically and morally justified it is
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absolutely correct for me to issue that statement but especially in light of the fact that elected officials do not criticize israel it's like it's like a career ender if you are if you intend to be part of the establishment and that's precisely what we do not intend to be in fact we want to use our office as a way of empowering other grassroots candidates or their grassroots organizations to participate in the political process as a defining challenge against the establishment yes also yeah just that you know on the council members you know like you were saying that you know about the council members here a lot of what i heard from them was well you know i you know that it's too presumptuous as a as a mere council member to be commenting on international issues i would much rather be focusing on seattle issues fix the sidewalks and talk about housing but that's
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not an. honest argument because in reality under the our watch under the watch of the corporate democratic party establishment housing is an absolute crisis in seattle affordability of housing is in crisis the sidewalks in poor people of color neighborhoods are in disarray and it's not like they are not commenting on gaza because they're busy fixing those problems actually the problems that people see on the local level are very much intermingled with the problems we see of us foreign policy and that is the problem of an establishment a corporate political establishment that is not accountable either to the working people in the u.s. or to the working people in gaza right of course and the money spent three and a half million dollars in israel annually from u.s. taxpayer money of course is. money from being used on the streets of these cities schama and of course city council also issued a statement about iraq in the past criticism of israel as you just mentioned is few and far between among elected officials especially members of congress but still i
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think a lot of people were shocked to see the most leftist members of congress it was bernie sanders and elizabeth warren sign on to a one sided resolution giving israel carp launch authority to act in self-defense i want to get your comment on that. yes i think that's a very important question to ponder on and i think what it points to is not so much a personality issue if you know who in the democratic party is a nice person are the on our side or not what it demonstrates is that even genuine and well meaning elected officials once they sign on to the democratic party even if money sanders is independent you know you see what we would like is for elected official officials to be genuinely and defiantly independent of the corporate establishment but certainly in elizabeth warren's case you know i admire you know her genuine passion to advocate for victims of foreclosure and grid credit card for
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fraud but at the end of the day if you run as a democratic party candidate you have to toe the party line and that includes signing on to a destructive an oppressive imperialist policies and the only way out of this is for genuine people to politically understand that we have to reject the agenda of the two party system and really use our energies to fight to carry out a new political formation for working people that would represent social justice and economic justice goals that we all have and of course the boycott divestment sanction movement is alive and well when it comes to israel as we just saw with the port closure about shipboard in oakland but the strategy has also been employed against corporations to schama like in the case of portland divesting from wal-mart do you think it's a good strategy with corporations and countries alike. i think the boycott and
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divestment strategy is a new thing can be an effective tool to really bring people people who feel anger and outrage to bring them together on a unified political basis you know that so that you can work on a concrete political demand. in an organized fashion. and i think it has the potential if we can really push on that it has the potential to raise the bar on the political demands we don't want just wipe out and about divestment that's that's a really fantastic starting point but we want to take the movement far far ahead of that really really need to call for an entire system change itself and i think that everything we're talking about should also be colored by the events in ferguson in missouri because what has happened there reveals the utter failure of the capitalist system and of the two party system in the united states to bring
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any sort of justice to the black community and to people of color and to low income and for people in general and it really begs the question how are we going to get organized not only against this two party system but how are we going to organize really far reaching movements nationally and internationally that will question the system itself right in the seattle police chief who was in charge during the w.t. zero protests in seattle in one thousand nine hundred nine has said that the cops and ferguson haven't learned anything from his mistakes going off what you just said what do you think the biggest mistakes have been in handling both the investigation and the shooting and the protests. the shooting itself in of an unarmed young black man it shows. the deep racism in our society it's so imbedded that it's it may even be unconscious on the part of a large number of people it's an institutionalized racism but the response of the ferguson police department after that against the protest movements coming out with
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armored tanks and with gas masks and you know machine guns and looking like a militarized presence that has really had a huge impact on the consciousness of especially the black community of young black people but people in general where people feel completely outraged i mean you know i heard a lot of people in seattle saying my god i was watching the footage from ferguson and it looks like the streets of iraq and it really brings to mind you know in the in the minds of many of the people that we need to really address fundamentally address the problem of racism racial inequality racial injustice economic injustice and how are we going to do that and seattle's definitely leading the way when it comes to the struggle for working class people shame of course the fight for fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage which passed in may going to be phased in over the course of seven years thanks about resolution are you satisfied with the
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way the law is being implemented. no reaction fought against the corporate loopholes until the last moment we think that it is an enormous step forward what did get passed in many ways one because it will make a tangible substantial improvement in the living standards of the lowest paid workers the workers that make the city run and they deserve much more than this but it's also a really important step forward because it has raised the confidence it has raised the morrall of working class people not just in seattle but everywhere who have seen from the example of seattle that when you can when you fight you can rent and that's an important example to have so that we can build on that success in the future but the fact that the council members in seattle pushed for those corporate loopholes these are the same council members who said you know i'm not commenting on gaza because i would rather focus on seattle what they really mean the subtext
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of what they're saying is that i would much rather focus on giving big business all the loopholes they need in seattle and not comment on the social justice issue and so what this points to words is that we not only need to build these movements in seattle and everywhere but we need from these movements to. i have a political leadership emerge that will present a real concrete challenge to the two party system and and we have to build this movement in seattle bid to build this movement in ferguson and also look towards that when he sixteen elections thank you so much for incredible insight on on so much want seattle city council member really appreciate coming on. thank you abby. coming up i'll speak with guardian journalist doctor's office on mad about his stunning investigation into a pentagon program known as the minerva and i should have stayed tuned.
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a stage eight looking. but was. plenty. good lumbered sure. was able to build the most sophisticated. fortunately. about anything tim's mission is to teach me. to care about humans and. this is why you should care only. ever since whistleblower edward snowden's leak was released to the public one board has permeated the public lexis metadata and while the word is generally associated
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with the n.s.a. in its quest to collect information on everyone and compile data about that data it turns out that the department of defense is a big fan of harvesting our communications as well that's were the minerva research initiative comes in its multibillion dollar project was launched by the pentagon to quote improve the d.o.d.'s basic understanding of the social cultural behavioral local forces that shape regions of the world of strategic importance to the u.s. that's right the pentagon is essentially working in conjunction with major u.s. universities to militarize social science and prepare for global civil breakdown one journalist who is extensively covered this project is dr now from mad international security scholar and author of several books including his most recent zero point he joins me now to discuss his findings in a recently published or part investigation of the subsets of minerva and its damning implications such a pleasure to have you on set to be easily so talking really briefly about what
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this program consists of and how long it's been implemented so the program to another program starts in two thousand and eight. that is a specific program certainly not the first one to go into a gram to try to mobilize social science but the specific programs like two thousand and eight since then they funded dozens of universities around the world the sensual thread you know it's one of the different projects is effectively tracking the next threats on the horizon in the new age of sea so looking at impacts of climate change the economic crisis you know energy depletion and how these things could affect. different regions different territories and affects us national interests and of course what's also you know what could happen in the homeland and the real focus is really on looking at insurgencies civil unrest where things could kickoff you know something like ferguson for example gives us
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a real idea of the kind of threats that they're looking at you know where could they be a catalyst for you know destabilization or something like that one thing that you continuously point out is the blurred line between insurgent militant and just peaceful activists according to article the project states that a lot of violent rhetoric is insufficient to classify an organization as pacifists this is fascinating so if no violence does not equate to pacifism how are they determined potential threats well this is really what's disturbing for any perspective is if you're going to fund a program which is about identifying threats you know you need to be very specific in what are those threats but the problem is is that consistently the minerva guy is talking about people as high as the administrator who gave me a statement about it all the way through to the actual research of the universities who were doing the research none of them could substantiate why they had these blood definitions and boundaries one of the poor taste i looked. you know as being
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one of the naval postgraduate school and it's you know blurs the boundaries between so-called peaceful nonviolent activists and what is described as supporters of political violence and then so you know peaceful activist because they support radical cause is seen as a potential support for political violence and then that opens the door to seeing them as potential terrorists potentially involved in any kind of disruptive activity so even the definition of what is terrorism what is a threat has also been watered down we've got like department of homeland security fusion so. says corporations and. f.b.i. d.h.s.s. actually mining social media and in one case that i looked at in arizona you had the phoenix occupy activists who had their social media twitter posts being analyzed by this to identify you know where the next threat could come from and the
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threat was what wasn't terrorism it was like you know disruptive behavior you know civil disobedience but stuff that isn't really nonviolent peaceful activism so the boundaries have been blurred to the point that this isn't really about terrorism it's about political dissent. right and another thing that you point out is how there is no profile really a terrorist how the terrorism detection algorithms inherently flawed and so of course that's why they're there broadening it's so large this is really fascinating to recently of course that link was discovered between one of the authors of the facebook contagion study emotional contagion study and the nerve initiative and of course this is a study that sought to manipulate users emotions without their consent even though the study wasn't funded directly by the d o d what does that connection tell us so that particular study which was claimed to not be funded by the deity it's interesting because the guy he was basically no university use basically the
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university and he was he received funding from in a basically study social contagions so you know so what is a social contagion what is this is a disease so you know mass movement was seen as some kind of. you know this this negative in thing that is compared to a disease that can spread like wildfire so interesting lee he also was involved in this facebook study now what a lot of people don't know is that the press release regarding that particular project the project that was going to facebook when it first came out we actually stated that this funding for this is also come from the u.s. army research the portrayal there you go you know they the truly scrubbed. and they said no to this funding was. this is this was not funded by deity asshole but what's interesting is when that the actual language was very specific it was that it was funded in part so what actually really happened here if you look at the concepts the research methodology that was being applied this this stuff was
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actually developed with the funding and he applied it to facebook and you know whether you whether you think that that was funded directly by do you do you know is actually relevant because it was the same concept the same structure the same research methodology and the whole purpose of the project was essentially the same kind of thing. so when you look at that kind of research that is being done. it's very worrying but more worrying is what's happening hour is on a state university where i want to i mentioned you know you've got this data mining of social media people yeah no let's talk about that because thomas drake he says that the algorithms be developed a theory minds on the basis for drone strikes quickly for those who don't understand how the kill is actually determined talk about how data mining is connected to these so-called targeted strikes so again this is something that i mean it's been it's come out trickle down you know through through the investigative journalists you know the washington post new york times have been digging into this also the intercepts have been doing some great work and now we
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know that the kill list generated by the national council is a counterterrorism center in d.c. and what they do is they have access to all the databases across intelligence community through there's n.s.a. f.b.i. cia or whatever and those databases basically combine your message data from private intelligence communications whether it's you know telephone e-mails or whatever with the so-called open source states so from social media so it could be facebook twitter you tube you name it it's on social media in some form they'll be absorbing it and looking at and analyzing it and what these algorithms do. so i was in a state university they've been developing these algorithms that allow them to fine tune their ability to classify all of this data and to identify organizations their spectrum one of the so-called radicalism threat scale. you know what kind of organization organizations they are and worse than that we've got that one of the
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tools they developed is called looking glass and it's not really like a data visualization platform that allows them to track individuals so they can identify individuals they can identify their degree of radicalism. social networks so they can really go deep with the social media now when i asked. drake about these algorithms he said. look this looks to me like signature this is the same kind of stuff that could be used to fine tune the kill this so the kill lists that you talk to kill this one is behind value targets which supposedly take out you know high level members of al qaeda people who know what terrorism we know their names but then the vast majority of drone strikes are actually called signature drone strikes and in those cases we don't necessarily know the names. the evidence for why they're being selected is quite thin. some
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state department guys were actually law thing about the cia's criteria saying that the cia that would look at pakistan of those say those c three guys doing jumping jacks and they'll be like that's a terrorist training camp take them out that's how kind of loose and fluid i mean across here is classified so we don't really know what the criteria is but we know that looking at what maneuver is doing is that it's loose. and various studies of drone strikes have shown that somehow two to three percent of the high value targets so when i asked thomas drake about you know could these algorithms be used to really find in the kill list he said to me your hunch is absolutely right these are the same types of algorithms that he's seen in the n.s.a. . have been used to generate kill this the signature drone strikes. so i asked him do you think this is about fine tuning that and he said this pretty much looks like terrifying was very terrifying and even more troubling last year when senator rand paul as attorney general eric holder can we be confirmed that no u.s.
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drone strike whatever execute some on u.s. soil means that only in an extraordinary circumstance could we ever hypothesize is happening however he didn't rule it out or not the as you point to a little known pentagon directive issued last year that actually legally parallels that break that down so that directive. the musical there's been a couple of these directives recently which look into the threat of domestic emergencies all kinds of you know problematic contingencies where you're looking at essentially you know natural disasters. you know it could be an economic shock or some kind of a food crisis could be anything you know amazing to store for terrorism incident all of these conason are as i described directed to the one last year took the step of going further than the previous directive which said that drones would be allowed to be used on u.s. soil but they wouldn't use drones now the next directive which kind of updated this
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would be chimed in with what holder had said and the kind of legal perspective of the administration that they can actually use these drones theoretically in an emergency and it basically authorized the federal government to use any federal military resources without qualification in order to respond to a domestic emergency or domestic terrorism incident so theoretically. the pentagon has paved the way to allow various should be used on american soil. wow thank you for putting your incredible research everyone check out this four part series on occupy dot com if you really do just lay it out map it out tile these pieces together not bees and now you have a new fictional book i don't know how you have to tuck in called zero point zero did your journalism influenced this book how much real life stuff is applied to this and this is one of three talk about a little bit we have i'm not sure is there a point because you know i want to reach out a wider audience and you know i'm a bit of this life i geek
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a lot of my action thrills you know. all of that and i kind of thought but the one thing i don't like about some of the scifi is it can be a little bit colonialist you like stars or has great fun but it's vol known that there is a kind of imperialist narrative in there about you know the conquering of and exploring about the galaxies although you know that sick. changing of all the time but there is that problem with some so i fight with the rising you know tom clancy was great i loved his writing but he was proved war. and he didn't understand espionage and he got to glorify the spy without looking at the real murky details of deep politics in the deep states of this book is about giving people access to information about what's actually going on in the it's set in the future plausible in the future after a fourth war whereas the u.s. and u.k. reinvading iraq for oil and put down on the insurgency so i didn't know that was actually going to happen it's going to happen this year i can.


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