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the balance of powers on the ground in syria has drastically began to change if you look back at the previous years in the situation in which the country in the government we're actually in it was diabolical the half of the country was lost it was a it was defeat after defeat of the us plans for intervention and arming rebels and helping them and now you look at the situation it's it's a complete whitewash because yeah you've got one force on the ground in the syrian military which is now continuing to make advances and actually find some sort of military solution in a crisis where you know danny on one thought that was no and done it was possible let me go to a down here because i think it's you know if you look at western mainstream media the united states is crushing isis in syria and there's no mention of you know iran there's no mention of his blog and if it is it's always negative there's very little mention of russia or of course they probably committed human rights violations it's really remarkable how this is being spun in western media go ahead
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adele yeah it's. laughable actually she is here for actually a part of this western media but i think it's important issue to focus on a. until recently the americans specifically under obama the weren't quite serious about fighting terrorism fighting i said in fact of questions in the congress that some of the funding found its way and some of the weapons found it's only one of the websites. and that there are a lot of the weapons and we never found out who financed it that we ought to pick up trucks and send them it's but we're out of here now what's important now really . the americans hopefully will have learned the lesson of iraq yes he pulled out of iraq but look at iraq now so the important thing is you must work with the russians because the other main force the in order to have. between different forces of course isolate these damage there is they should have been left i agree
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with danny that the kurds getting territory for exchange for other political gains because you do not want to upset the. russians and their ricans the syrian president assad and the turks obviously the turks always suspicious of the kurds so they will give back the territory definitely for exchange of some political security and the role to play and here comes the lesson of iraq which is now descended into almost civil war and that the kurds were defeated i still about to fly it with this yard controlled government in baghdad so we do not want that to happen in syria quickly conciliation other things doing grid job conferences and regardless what we think of the negative american rules well at least in the end maybe an outside one of the thing and we got to go back to beirut here again
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one of the things that really bothers me when the last time we even had something remotely close to this there was a cease fire that had been agreed to and then the the us attacked syrian forces i mean completely turned everything upside down all the gains that were gain up to that point were destroyed more mutual suspicions and even hostility here are you worried something like this could happen because the u.s. is staying in there are they going to have to do something or leave go ahead basically my my my ask them at the syrians so far declare that the forces american forces are illegal in syria. the clear and still and capoue. so that by itself as an obstacle to what the american basically tried to say they want us they have a habit there that i mean they make an obstacle to the peace process the syrian actually insists and liberating all of their land and having all their land under their jurisdiction my ass the med that the american wanted
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a piece of the buy and they don't want to leave easily from syria they're there are probably they're there their approach and their doctor had failed had failed and called to stand because they're probably they bush the president or the clear independent they didn't come to his backing right my ass them and here they can a bush the current in syria they can take a lead game can i have my name as the man i got russian i have to jump in here we're going to have to go to a hard break and after that hard break we'll continue our discussion on syria stay with art. this footage is unique because there's a tribal lands and normally off limits to the public eric's allowed in because he's this is his personal doctor. people here know him simply his dog to eric he's rich famous some always on the move sailing yachts and flying aircraft.
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but. he's considered one of the best neurosurgeons in brazil. that's happening. already so says. going. to busy doing nothing is going to cause the population because he's going to people on the phone . i was not be surprised if ideal is made selling fannie mae freddie back to people's bank of china saw that especially china becomes america's biggest landlord and keeping prices down and up to the name of jobs and global harmony and this is i
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think what we're can expect in the next few years because the u.s. is the world's biggest debtor china is the world's biggest creditor so you put those two together you have the biggest creditor taking on some of the u.s. debt with a positive government guarantee you may freddie mac. they are all the people who love parling money on those games say they've got chinese landlords that's the move a lot more talk. about your sudden passing i've only just learnt you worry yourself in taking your last wrong turn. you're out to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry i'm so i write these last words in hopes to put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each person. but then my feelings started to change you talked about war like it was a cave still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our arc and i
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secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral the same as one enters the mind it's consumed with death this one height difference i speak to now because there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker. where. there. thank you thank. you. thank you. thank me thank you both thank you.
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welcome back to crossfire all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing syria. ok dan let me go back to you in damascus ok we've already talked about the russian raney and turkish initiative here but let's turn it upside down the other side as it were here. are they going to go along with this is israel going to go along with this don't think so these are the other obstacles here go ahead danny i completely agree i mean i mean we can we have to separate the israeli interest from the saudi arabian interests but saudi arabia will continue to have an intransigent style stance towards the crisis in syria as it has done throughout because syria for saudi arabia it's an issue of national security and the huge faces in saudi arabia from policy in syria have actually reflected so negatively on the state that it's
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now beginning to lash out regionally it's being to lash out in the media even. the complete you know the arab spring peter if you look at it it was stopped in syria if if they are bring managed to get rid of the syrian government this would have continued on until we had a completely new middle east but it was stopped in its tracks in syria and that was a way that the end i mean syria was always such an important country regionally from a geopolitical level it was it was a gateway to iran it will have a huge strategic significance because of its border with israel. influence in lebanon so saudi arabia won't stop until it considers its completely bankrupt and spent in terms of the syria crisis radius for example they have very i would actually say that within syria and that is to continue this. kind of conflict on the borders between the how that and the syrian military continue to
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target hizbollah targets within within syria but i don't think the israelis want more intervention i just think that they want to have a clear viewpoint of what's happening on the syrian side from the sense that hizbollah is their main enemy but saudi arabia will turn no stone until it completely see the destruction of assad even though it's lost and that's the issue here saudi arabia has failed diplomatically because it's had no faith in diplomacy it would have at the start of the crisis had a peace process or or a negotiation or a dialogue with the radiance this wouldn't even happened but they chose this pathway in the end it ended in an absolutely stunning and embarrassing defeat for saudi arabia and its allies in the region which is why this proximity with it is rote is present at the moment and that is to attempt to undercut the iranian influence in the region and ok. you mentioned you mentioned iran let me go to adel
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because it always goes back to iran here ok so what are the pieces on the board here we have the american military that says it's going to maintain its presence and it's not given a real justification except to keep make sure there isn't isis two point oh ok fine well being there might create it ok that's what usually happens ok and also we have the israelis which i would say at the very least want to see a destabilized syria they can capitalize on that and we have the saudis that will not leave any stone unturned here and then we have someone like donald trump has already been said on the program he might change his mind after it's gone. again we don't know what can i find this adult to be extremely dangerous even though we have i think the pieces coming together to seed some light at the end of the tunnel but there are some people that want to keep the darkness there go ahead and. if you have to you're careful not to second guess because we in the media unless really we have a whole picture sometimes we get leaked in fairly sure that it's fairly you know
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it's fair there's a real in there now i've probably slightly disagree with that with where with that any on the saudi arabia serbia which wasn't in their interest for the so-called arab spring which i don't call it that way anyway to continue because they are stable monarchies they don't actually like that so stopping in syria is in their interest now let's look into the american presence american press actually is not sanctioned by the u n unlike the russian which was invited by the legal un the cognized government of syria so the americans are in a weak legal point there let's look at to this over the visit to russia and meeting with president putin what action was agreed there something very interesting syria must have been discussed sure the mutual interests of the two the more destructive rules more qatar who actually punching above their weight rather than saudi arabia and israel yes i agree i remember once and israeli of so thick
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a meter the border was level and said this is our front line with iran so they have always have this insecurity they always has in the back of their mind rightly or wrongly that hezbollah wants their total destruction so their interest is largely different from syria from saudi arabia home have seen their indian intervention because let's not forget the islamic revolution was for exports the three circles that khomeini wanted so the second circle is exporting it to the outcome. as with a minority of give this year to uprise we have the during the polls going to be a problem so slightly different problems there as seen from syria point of view and i'm almost certain this issue was discussed when once a month ago libya visited moscow and there's some bad dream it must be the beach ok i agree with you adel i'm going to come in. ok go ahead jump in the audience
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a point of the program go ahead just pretty quickly but in the sense if you look at the region and look saudi arabia is this is iran iran's best ally in the region and syria a huge difference but huge miles so it's definitely in saudi arabia interest from the inception of the so-called arab spring to make sure that this country has huge problems and is in a period of instability because it's crucial for of for its own national interest in this prolonged regional war with iran so i would absolutely one hundred percent rest by the fact that saudi arabia wanted an arab spring in syria because if they didn't have that spring the iranian influence would be even stronger than it already is i'm not i don't i see i see i see i see adel just disagreeing i think we're all we have maybe different different definitions of arab spring here let me go to campbell here in beirut i'm really glad that adel brought up the visit of the saudi king to moscow and obviously they talked about syria here i guess what really
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interests me is that when one you recognize what your interests are pragmatically but then you see an opportunity and you want to throw the dice i think that's what bothers me because it is as danny is pointed out i mean if you look at the saudi foreign policy the last few years it goes from one blunder from one catastrophe to another and there doesn't seem to be stopping even though they understand that they have these national interest visa v. has and syria here is saudi arabia to such a trustworthy enough partner and go ahead in beirut. well obviously. not happy about what is taking place. they feel that they lost the battle of this big battle for years they've been supporting the opposition in syria they've been supporting the opposition or whatever the activity that was taking place in in iraq so now you have you have that road that
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a lot of these country were afraid that goes from top to lebanon can go through with with the with a victory because of the surgical operation that was done was supported by by having iranian by liberating really liberating iraq and basically defeating dosh in iraq and now we have a major victory in syria so how much they can do about this not very much they already put a big fight for it and basically they didn't what did not win the fight so basically all they can do is just. maybe go to lebanon they tried to do medal. of lebanon and they were not successful either i think the point for the cod is to make a compromise and well you know we would be really nice if a war in the air and yeah thank you thank you for four of them
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absolutely i'm glad you mentioned yemen delegate were rapidly want to i'm going to ask all three of you what about the future of assad because if you look at some of the communication coming out i guess for from sochi there is going to be political reform what does it mean to you because i'm sure it means something else to the americans go ahead adele. yeah it's an interesting point actually of the future of us that. historically countries who want to play a regional mini superpower they never interested in the blazing enable because that is the blazes then have refuses coming to them problems etc but they might want to install a vision that actually can pull the strings so they want to rule out a regime that supports and further the interest rather than destabilizing it and here comes the point about the peace process again if we look from
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a moscow point of view they did our support as a percent a the want stability agreed to the integrity of your graphical integrity of syria going to peace and obviously the legitimate russian interest because the american and your opinion expansion leaves only one business for the russian fleet which is in five sous and latakia that has to be respected as field of interest and ok gentlemen rerouted i one time i want to ask all three danny same question political reform what does it mean to you. it's an absolute must you could have more political parties you could have a more liberal nature of of the ideology of the governing party but at the same time in a great position because he can play the kurds off with the turks or he says he wouldn't take. one i mean that he can play that card you know we don't want to jinx it but he has essentially won and it's been pretty it's been convincing as well so what i would like to see as a syrian is more political reforms is more of
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a free media and free speech and this to happen gradually in the sense that we're going to see some of this happening because people haven't fought for seven years they find over something this type of political regime come out ok i'm going to give you the last forty seconds in beirut political reform or does it mean to you forty seconds basically this is a political process the democratic process i think will leave it to the people of syria i think mr assad has the upper hand because he has a proving that he has the interests of the country and i think in preserving the country the war continue and basically i hope that there settlement political settlement. well jerk well gentlemen after so many years the syrian people should finally be given a voice and finally given a chance to have peace here i want to thank my guests in london beirut and in damascus and thanks to our viewers for watching us here r t see you next time and
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