being a differential countries to take steps that empower the palestinian authority that recognizes perhaps the state of palestine they talk about i know the czech republic prime minister had said that in the future in the framework of a peace agreement the czech republic would be happy to recognized east jerusalem as the capital of palestine and west jerusalem is the capital of israel i think this is in fact the official position of russia as well that in the future in an agreement on a two state solution that is true some could be the capital palestine and western as in the capital of israel well that's the position of many countries and the the irony and the shame is that no country is making a decisive step to make that theoretically arrangement in reality mr busking we have to take a very short break now but we'll be back in just a few minutes stay tuned.
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can then lead to a one hundred thirty she using a button to press the rage button and sit over the. exchange so that is why there is something x. it is a good in this case since this year we have done just screwed up. this is harlan kentucky. over all of this movement voices and it was very funny very morning. a co money city with almost no co mines left. the jobs are gone all the polis of said that that was a laugh to these people a survivor of a world disappearing before their eyes. i remember thinking when i was younger
that if anything ever happened to the coal mines here that it would become a ghost town but i never thought in a million years i would see that and it's happening it's happened. welcome back to worlds apart with a gash and bufkin founder and cochairman of the israel palestine creative regional initiatives mr busk and as far as i'm concerned the most interesting political actor to watch is prime minister israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in both how he tries to deploy his library and how he tries to control the damage and you made a point in one of your recent articles that there was a time when prime minister spoke about mutuality and reciprocity what do you see
made him abandon those themes and what can possibly resurrect them breach or actually i think when he talked about reciprocity and. say what they get they do and he was primarily referring to this issue of the palestinians recognize that israel is a nation state of the jewish people he has repeated the demand that the palestinians should recognize israel as the nation state of the jewish people the palestinians have made it quite clear that they're not going to do that they recognized israel they're not going to define israel in its national religious character which in the thing that was demanded i think a lot of what netanyahu says on calling to the palestinians to negotiate is kind of empty words because he's not serious about negotiations in mud view with he were he would put down some of the terms of reference for negotiations instead he uses a kind of cliche of no preconditions and we know what no precondition means it means that israel will continue with its policies of building more settlements and
entrenched in the occupation while the party gets smaller and smaller that they arrest to negotiate about exactly and i would go even further i think the netanyahu government is clearly counting on the trump momentum to establish as many facts on the ground as possible and in doing that. frankly i think they've abandoned all of their usual pretenses because you can hear respectable people in israel openly questioning the palestinians people ask nikko region over that ride to state and if you take these far right israeli vision to its logical and i wonder how does it here resolution what is the end of that strategy and quite frankly i don't know because i know that in israel we define ourselves as the democratic nation state of the jewish people yet for fifty years already we have a bi national one state reality where israel controls basically everything between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea in this territory between the jordan river in the mediterranean sea about fifty percent of the people living there are
published in arabs most of their muslims so they're not part of the israeli democracy nor are they part of the jewish nation state so we are facing in my mind for israel internally regardless of what the world says an existential question of who we are as a nation and i think this puts to us as the israeli people the need to make a decision of whether or not we want to buy national state whether or not we want to have full democracy without a nation state identity where would be one person one vote in which case israel would not be the nation state of the jewish people or we want to put a border a political border between us and the public opinion people and allow them to create their own state living in peace next to israel the decision hasn't been made yet i know that you personally believe that there is no alternative or to be precise no fair or legal i'll turn it to to a two state solution but i think it's also clear that as you alluded to earlier that the netanyahu government only needs these prospects you as a cover to continue stablish in fact on the ground to continue territorial
expansion as attractive as they a two state solution is to you personally don't you think that at this point the continuing support for it is only serving departed that exploits it's the most. i think that neither side is being served by the current status quo with no movement in the peace process i don't see how it's helping the palestinians i don't believe that the palestinians really have a one state option if we can't i don't understand the logic if we can find a way to partition and live in two states let's talk about one state the logic falls from reality in my view we only have a two state solution it doesn't serve israel's long term interests by not moving forward of creating a partnership and finding a way to negotiate with the palestinians this is difficult it's not an easy thing to do both sides need to make difficult decisions i think that we will make those decisions we don't have the leaders yet to make them but i think as i said we're
facing leadership changes both in israel and in palestine i hope in the united states as well soon now i've seen you advocate a change in not only the palestinian leadership but also in the palestinian tactics you were just an extent advocating the same facts on the ground strategy for the palestinians and one of your articles you suggested that if you were a palestinian you would to build on all the palestinian owned land in area c. you would deploy old bulldozers in the west bank to open every road that israel has closed and you recognize that this is going to perhaps bring things to a boiling point what makes you believe that anything good may come out of this i think the key is whether or not the palestinians could couldn't here to a nonviolent popular resistance struggle if they resort to violence and throwing stones in my view was violent as well but you could have a nonviolent struggle where i said if i were a palestinian i would seek to have myself and all of my friends and my family of leaders at the local level of the national level be arrested by israel what you
need to do is hold a mirror up to the israeli people and say this is what you're creating this is the reality on the ground we're not using violence we will not cooperate with the occupation any more we want our independence we want our statehood we want to live in peace. but we will not be complicit in considering to cooperate with the occupation that means not working in israel now working in settlements not using the israeli issue id cards in the birth certificates and death certificates israel will no longer have control over our lives and we're willing to pay the price for our dependence independence doesn't come cost free and require struggle i plead with the public in the nonviolent struggle because if you use violence you will never get the support of the israelis or the world if you use nonviolence you will get the support of everyone but mr barr busking to be fair i think the palestinians have already paid huge cost for their independence struggle and they're continuing to pay this huge post every day what i think you're essentially calling for is an
anti thought and it's a regional meaning shaking things by civil disobedience by planned coordinated action rather than let's say the sporadic violence attacks on knives attacks but do you think the palestinians i feel capable off channeling their anger channeling their sense of indignity into strategy rather than those outbursts round them outbursts of violence again this requires leadership and it requires leaderships at all level that the palestinians don't yet have for twelve years they haven't had elections or eleven years haven't had elections they've had a divided political house for ten years between the west bank and gaza they need to get their house in order and this is of course the palestinians responsibility to do it but i see a new young generation of published indians in the universities educated dynamic people with a lot of of ambition to make a better life for themselves and i and i hope that they understand that their
salvation is not going to come from islamic fundamentalism or from trying to knife some israeli soldiers or kill israeli settlers this is not how they're going to save themselves if they're going to continue to pay. the high price in blood and death and suffering without the end results it's only through a mass campaign of civil unrest of non-cooperation with the occupation and nonviolence that they can achieve their struggle well if i understand your message correctly you're saying that the palestinians have become q passive aggressive where in fact they would benefit the most from being both active and no not graphic i think they've been frustrated and i think that their challenge because the israelis are very good at what they do the occupation has become very cost free for israel most israelis are not encountered by the occupation they don't see it it's not part of their lives a very small part of the israeli army is involved in maintaining the occupation and
israel has open and good international relations it was a very strong economy so the israeli society doesn't really understand the cost that the palestinians are paying for the occupation the palestinians need to ask themselves how can we get the israelis to understand that what they're doing is wrong how did the palestinians capture the higher moral ground they're there to create it's disadvantage they're much weaker there is no level playing field here and that requires a strong dynamic palestinian leadership now one thing that the jewish writers taught the world is that humans can adapt to the most degrading conditions and i'm not comparing the holocaust era prison camps to the israeli occupation i'm just saying that. people do get used to the most debilitating and appalling treatment and it looks like the conditions in the occupied territories may get even worse now that china announced his decision to have the funding for the u.n.
agency that provides aid to the palestinians how do you feel about it do you think it's going to change the conditions on the ground in a way that will make these released notice i'm not sure i think that the biggest cut in the only real budget is going to be in the field of education and teachers are going to be fired palestinian schools are going to be more crowded the classrooms are going to be more crowded there will be more children in the streets and this is very problematic both internally for public stein and i think for israel it is not a sign of encouragement i think that needs a lot of reform there needs to be a lot of discussion about the future of the responsibility of the palestinian government in the refugee camps both in education and in economic development and it really needs to fall on the palestinians to resolve these issues even though the refugee issue is on the table of negotiations i don't think this is going to make a radical change that's going to shake up the palestinian economy it's not that much money that the americans are cutting and it's not going to be the kind of
challenge that i think will shake anything up it will be hurting it will it will be damaging to an ra as an agency and to palestinian children in terms of the education they receive but even if we take that limited damage to the palestinian children i would think that having misery and poverty across the border multiplied would not be in the interest of israel why do you think that netanyahu administration hasn't tried to talk trump out of it especially now that they seem to have such a cordial relationship well i think that in general the israeli government has lobbied with the americans to continue financing of palestinian economic development and certainly the palestinian security forces the israeli position on is one that owner of the. agency which is stains the refugee issue rather than getting the refugees integrated into palestinian society or into the countries where when really works in lebanon and in syria and in jordan and therefore as an
agency for seventy years assisting the refugee problem rather than helping to resolve it it keeps this dream of going back home which is now the state of israel proper and where those palestinian homes no longer exist so politically israel has taken the position that will run needs to be closed down entirely so is israel is not going to encourage the american government to continue paying for a room ok well mr abbas going to fortunately we have to leave it there but it's been there very interesting though a very troubling conversation i appreciate you being with us and to our viewers please keep the conversation going on out twitter facebook and youtube pages and i hope to see you again same place same time here on worlds apart.
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up the. turkeys new front in the syrian war opens up a rift with the u.s. we look at the global along about the turkish advance against american backed goodish forces. donald trump attends the world economic forum in davos and launches a trauma offensive to your big business to america. and throughout the week afghanistan has seen a wave of deadly terror attacks which of claimed more than a hundred law. thank you for watching the weekend headlines here at r.t.
international broadcasting live from moscow i'm kate partridge. the turkish army is continuing its advance into northern syria with tanks and helicopters ankara is fighting local kurdish militia groups which it considers to be terrorists. well these are the latest pictures of the turkish offensive in syria troops have seized control of the strategic manned bossa according to government media and in this video turkish soldiers are seen with fighters from the so-called free syrian
army. well the turkish army entered the african region on january the twentieth president erdogan has vowed to send his troops further east to other kurdish held areas including man beach and on to the iraqi border where the pentagon has been arming the syrian kurds for years due to their vital role in fighting islamic state and many kurdish fighters now feel abandoned by the u.s. . we see that the us doesn't support our friend with thing that's double standards america has no tools to present directly we demand that the us or fills its promises and protects liberated areas including afrin. the weapons have been provided to the white p.g.a. by the united states the americans haven't kept their promise since man bid lately trump statement saying that they won't get anywhere in the white p.g.a. any more have created a crisis of trust. artie's any of the tanker looks at how the alliance between
turkey and america seems to be crumbling. unbelievable is this real a nato member telling daddy you know i mean i mean to come in behave yourself or all point a gun at you am i exaggerating a bit mr aired on didn't say that these exact words but turkey's got a prime minister who pretty much did anyone who gives logistical support to the white is turkey's target for the record the white b.g. equals the kurdish army and for all these years who's been giving the kurds all kinds of support right. the kurds were extended in all of branch that's what ankara calls its military op the but where does that wipe e.g. get its guns somebody tapered on couldn't care less why washington's been helping the kurds to destroy eisel for this man the kurdish militias are no better than terrorists that explains his latest messages to america because the us is in the
process of creating a terror army on our border what we have to do is nip this terror army in the bud america do not encroach on our borders do not provoke us or we will run out of patience does anyone from the u.s. government have anything to say we urge turkey to exercise restraint and ensure that its military operations remain limited in scope and duration and scrupulous to avoid civilian casualties some very restrained council there to be restrained think about it mr aired on rants that america u.s. officials don't hit back turkey rolls up the tanks flies out the more play sends soldiers over the border washington basically keeps after all this isn't about kim who's sly this week makes donald trump for one reward so perhaps the turks and the kurds have succeeded in one thing together were juicing america to baffled silence
. well as turkey's offensive in syria expands so does the international condemnation this weekend there have been protests in a number of european cities while throughout the week such antiwar rallies have provoked trouble in places where banned kurdish militia flags were brought in. thanks i. was. i was. i. was i was. well just before turkey launched its assault the pentagon announced its plans to create a border force involving kurdish militia which infuriated ankara the white house
later by tract saying no border force will be created but that wasn't enough to stop turkish tanks from entering syria political commentator adèle darwish believes the situation poses a risk for europe kurds would find themselves powerless against the might of turkey as we have seen in the unfortunate scenes from frankfurt and probably other places it could actually spill over and affect europe affect people who think they are far away it's very very hard actually to the american foreign policy at the moment first the americans have to explain to their allies that our world what is the strategy and the policy on the stooge. to the world actually to have a peaceful settlement in syria and keep the political integrity of syria as a nation state as. the world economic forum took place in davos
this week and most of the media attention was on trump his america first message and a mixed reception clashing with the forum's tagline of creating a shed future well the u.s. president's arrival was met by a protest two thousand people marched through sewage to nancy but strong foreign several smaller protests took place elsewhere in the country including geneva but that didn't seem to put off the u.s. leadership was on change jacqueline who got a report. feel very flattered that he has chosen this as a forum. for those that don't want to listen to him you can they can leave well probably to no one's surprise whatsoever trump speech did feature his signature phrase of america first and his speech is actually rounding out the end of the forum i believe in america i will always put. the first one the
united states grows so does the world america is roaring that america is a cutting edge town and that's what we're doing in america and the results showed one mistake america's future has never been brighter i will always put america first i believe in america so come to america where you can innovate create and build now that pretty much wraps up his whole speech which centered on progress that's been made in the u.s. in the presence of pinioned since he came to the white house term speech was highly anticipated and according to reports lines were out the door hours before it even started and here at this economic forum trump in true businessman fashion used the opportunity to promote himself and his country. well several european leaders were also a diverse and just like trump there europe first ideas were at odds with the forum's vision for global unity it isn't gentlemen my my my first miss each he said france
is back france is back at the core of for europe because we will never have any forensics is without a european success if between our twenty seven member states we are not able to send a clear and united message to major powers such as china india and the united states if foreign policy is made on the national level then we will feel not. and some topics on this year's agenda had little to do with economics instead they focused on race privilege and harris mint but writer and editor gerald celente thinks the shift in focus is just a facade regard those big to the zero point one percent of the people they have very little concern about or what the rest of the people are getting so which one big club and it's to deal making club again all those other little things about you know gay rights equal pay all that's just
a lot of nonsense and it's for the media to write about when they don't want to write about the hard facts of how the so few own so much of how so many own so little. on saturday a taliban suicide bomber killed one hundred three people and injured two hundred thirty five in the afghan capital kabul. i mean that you know that. i have a store near the site of the blasts when the car blew up i fell to the ground my brother was injured i took him to hospital but it was already overwhelmed so i put a bandage on my brother's wound and took him to another facility.