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to be not democratic process but islam is false as indeed there were a lot of mistakes made but basically the country is richer mentioned already the americans are supported some of the rebels maybe to some extent the french but practically it was the turkey that supported the bulk of the rebel formations in the north and so do your job in the south so it. could flourish and the coalition of. state and here's my point. that. the. force to defend some of those of the islamic states could disappear. but i think you need just as noted the turks to defend some of those of the islamic states could disappear and. develop but i think you need just as noted the turks but damn merican who. sad
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numerous promises to the kurds but the damn merican school. sad numerous promises to the kurds and there is who deceive them and you still formally real life its and there is who deceive them and you still formally rely for your security and for your protection from russia which leads me to your security and for your protection from russia which leads me to my next question i know that before joining the think tank way my next question i know that before joining the think tank where you work right now you had a long career in the german military you were dealing with the issues of your work right now you had a long career in the german military you were dealing with the issues of security in europe i know you have very concerned about that state of security you keurig and europe i know you have very concerned about that state of security you call.
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all for a culprit if approach why do you think that call part of an inclusive approach call for a culprit if approach why do you think that call part of an inclusive approach that you advocate it's a vociferously has failed to materialize because i would argue that is that you advocate it's a vociferously has failed to materialize because i would argue that one of the reasons why russia and turkey were able to reach that deal is because they both fell as i said one of the reasons why russia and turkey were able to reach that deal is because they both felt isolated they both felt kind of the sikh man of europe did to quote the phrase eat it they both felt kind of the sikh man of europe do you to quote the phrase when we speak about european security we have to distinguish that european lands when we speak about european security we have to distinguish that european landscape from the middle east landscape that is different when you're come from the nato post and the middle east landscape that is different when you're come from a nato post picked if you would say there is
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a commitment it's called alter fifes it will shrink treaty to a defended fact if you would say there is a commitment it's called alter 5 treaty to defend it as a and to come to hope so when we speak about europe and to speak about. and to come to hope so when we speak about europe and to speak about the baltic states or whatever flank states then there's article 5 would apply the baltic states or whatever flank states then this article 5 would apply so here europe is fully on board there is no question about it and this is a different though here europe is fully on board there is no question about it and this is a different this is a difference to the situation in the middle east where you always had a situation that was all this a difference to the situation in the middle east where you always had a situation that was outside really outside the nato area and outside nato commitments but. really outside the nato area and outside nato commitments but coalitions over. rilling reform some states participated others did not so coming
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back to their homes over the billing reform some states participate it others did not so coming back to the. security it into europe europe. and did it deteriorated it was due to. an ocean of. his cousin documents friends since treaties the taz and i would say commence since the time i would say. before 2005 when new issue of 20042005 when new issue. of contention came up between nato and not all a lot. of contention came up between nato and not all our allies but some allies but it was 2014 when we started again knows what some allies but it was 2014 when we started again nato started again to think about common defense commitments
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because the body tostada it again to think about common defense commitments because the baltic states had the impression that this in areas that developed. on their benteke states had the impression that this in areas that were developed. on the basis of the russian intervention in iraq could at least be repeated as it is of the russian intervention in iraq could at least be repeated i am they're going to ask you about that but they let me. have a very sharp eye and they're going to ask you about that but let me. have a very serious question here you talk about the security of europe within the native framework but great question here you talk about the security of europe within the native framework but the challenges are not limited to the native framework and not limited to russia i mean you can challenges are not limited to the native framework and not limited to russia i mean you could. to that are what
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do you have that been what happened in libya and what has syria up and present. danger to the day your injury to the european security. that. you know what i would add what are. being ascribed between iraq and its brahms' to the next to come state of the you think you can get the status of develop jerry theory that this is a limited to limited very outdated view on the european security of looking i did only through the need a framework and how it deals with russia very outdated view on the european security also looking i did only through the need a framework and how it deals with russia and the missing a whole lot of challenges that are out there and that are threatening the lives of your people missing a whole lot of challenges that are out there and that are threatening the lives of your people. i don't think i missed that. different.
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i don't think i missed. a different address in the world and then we have to cope with them miss him oh tenuously there's a middle east in the world and then we have to cope with them miss him oh tenuously there's a middle east it's failed state it's this and where is your of their. failed states this and where is your of there or is there it's you pretty profound and major influx of. flocks of migrants far into pretty profound and major influx of. migrants from libya or to prevent a regime change there where was your of to do that you're opposed to libya or to prevent a regime change there where was your of to do that europe. really where. the europeans were involved most of the european really where. the europeans were involved most of the european states were. in this involved in the action one kind of one could
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of course question states in this involved in the action one kind of one could of course question. interventions in iraq and libya and other in other places. interventions in iraq and libya and other in other places really. but don't nix it was. really. but don't nix it was those risks that at least some of the european states find as a vital risk that at least some of the european states find as vital and this is for them more important and more imminent then. and this is for them more important and more imminent then. and nato has to take care of that because there's an alliance that has defense commitments and nato has and nato has to take care of that because there's an alliance that has defense commitments and nato has to react the question is what. sort of measures does nato take the question is what.
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sort of measures does nato take and to what extent these defense commitments go and here's a clear restraint committed what extend these defense commitments go and here's a clear restrained commitment as well so for example if you look at back at the decisions made in washington 2000 segment as well so for example if you look at back at the decisions made in wall show in 2016 germany is that yes we have to reassure the baltic allies and the next in germany is that yes we have to reassure the baltic allies and the polish but we should keep it limited we should not. have the whole of polish but we should keep it limited we should not. have the whole night overwhelming our the whole middle east on fire but to be have to reassure the bolts. are the whole middle east on fire but to be have to reassure the the bolts and. poles right that's the european view of security. and the poles right and
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that's the european view of security very very. wrong. or very very. wrong. or. in order. to fund a lot. in order. to fund a lot of risk and dangerous but of course one can not just of risky and dangerous but of course one can not just. existing is not. existing is not. existing the fact of life it's a fact of political realities and you have to perceptions by the existing the fact of life it's a fact of political realities and you have to respond if we are talking about the
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european security within the need or framework response if we are talking about the european security within the need or framework are we still talking about european countries as are we still talking about european countries as russia's primary interlocutor within the russian nato council or is it still the russia's primary interlocutor within the russian nato council or is it still the united states that is calling the shots. i would guess the united states that is calling the shots. i would guess that russia is clearly focused on the united states nato is concent russia is clearly focused on the united states nato is comes on the boats operation of balances of russia's comes on the baltic globalist about separation of balances of forces russia's comes on the ball the global strategic balance of forces and the focus is clearly on the us but not only
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and not eager to balance of forces and the focus is clearly on the us but not only and not exclusively of course russia is interested in having close ties to go safely of course russia is interested in having close ties to at least major european nations and this is what happens personally regret that at least major european nations and this is what happens personally regret that the dialogue in the nie to russia council was stopped after 2 has always known that the dialogue in the nie to russia council was stopped after 2014 it's a political dialogue sometimes goes on still because the best of those meeting 14 it's a political dialogue sometimes goes on still it was done best of those meeting so you know 4 times a year that's not enough the military to military dialogue is important so you know 4 times a year that's not enough the military to military dialogue is important it takes
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place based on the german initiative in vienna in they always see from bird takes place based on the german initiative in vienna in they always see from work in squads a so-called structured dialogue so all nato states and russia and all the other words that is the in squads are so-called structured dialogue so all nato states and russia and all of the other words that is there it's go there and discuss the issue it's not just europeans or just anybody it's go there and discuss the issue it's not just europeans or just i think the next day the the me discuss the issues in here on that but why and the push comes to shove the next day the me discuss the issue. but why in the push comes to shove russia and turkey calling the shots without europe being seen anywhere russia and turkey calling the shots without europe being seen anywhere do you think europe has to take perhaps a more. do you think europe has to take perhaps a more proactive stance when it comes to its own security not only within the nato
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framework but active stance when it comes to its own security not only within the nato framework but also outside. quite convinced of that it is not enough only to look at also outside. quite convinced of that it is not enough only to look at the european affairs but it is a central point and this is located graphic at the european affairs but it is a central point and this is located graphically so we have to take care about our security in europe for us but the periphery counts and so we have to take care about our security in europe for us but the periphery counts and there's no question and i what i'm personally missing is a coherent european approach is no question and i what i'm personally missing is a coherent european approach to the risks and dangers in the periphery of europe and this is it's there are risks and dangers in the periphery of europe and this is what you have just mentioned because russian cooperation in those in syria. does
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mention this because russian cooperation in those in syria should also be a warning shot of warning call and it. would be a warning shot of warning call and it was. originated by the american restore from that maybe the europeans relied too much originated by the american restore from that maybe the europeans relied too much on the american resistance in syria or on the on the american. in syria or on the american support for the kurds and now it's time for the europeans to take action and that's why american support for the kurds and now it's time for the europeans to take action and that's why several politicians have made a proposal to include. several politicians have made a proposal to include european forces as well 1st to establish
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a security zone in the noise an area of syria european forces as well 1st to establish a security zone in the noise an area of syria see how this discussion. pins have taken the missile see how this discussion. pins have taken the missile ok well mr ritter we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned ok well mr ritter we have to take a very short break now but we will be back in just a few moments stay tuned. give
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more than a financial. member. more than after financial. ah . ah. welcome back to worlds apart that's what's going to reach their fellow at the
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judgment institute find welcome back to worlds apart that's going to be fair value add they just an institute for international and security affairs mr ritter before the break you mentioned the defacto collapse and security affairs mr ritter before the break you mentioned the defacto collapse of the arms control framework particularly as it relates to europe of the arms control framework particularly as it relates to europe and i think the year 2009000 was critical in this regard and i think the year 2019 of was critical in this regard the americans visit europe from the on f. treaty without consulting the americans visit from the on f. treaty without consulting european allies at all how much of a deal. european allies at all how much of a deal is that for you for the europeans so there was
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a consultation there are several is that for you for the europeans so there was a consultation there are several you might remember that in december already there americans provided evidence for that remember that in december already there americans provided evidence classified evidence that russia would break the enough treaty and ribbons and that russia would break the i don't know if treaty and germany and france and others that we need for us to have a look was russia and france and others that we knew it. for us to have a look was russia and the result of that delay was that the americans said ok we give you 2 months and the result of that delay was that the americans said ok we'll give you 2 months more time and. your security concerns about all it was not enough of the time and. your security concerns about all it was not enough has occurred
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the consequence i personally would have appreciated if you could have. occurred the consequence i personally would have appreciated if you could have reciprocally verified the issues because there are several issues on the table concessions really very issues because there are several issues on the table mutual concessions and we all agree it and it was a longstanding principle for arms control and we all agree it and that it was a longstanding principle for arms control it was all very fit cation control is just. intent is all very fit cation control is just. intent but very few proves the facts so regrettably we didn't very. very ficus improve the facts so regrettably we didn't verify did verify so i have the feeling that there were other political considerations did very far so i have the feeling that there were other political considerations behind it you know that we the
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russians i think sometimes overly sounds behind it you know that we the russians i think sometimes overly sensitive to being ignored or disregarded when at the defense you being ignored or disregarded when especially when it comes to our security concerns i think russians sometimes take slides there especially when it comes to our security concerns i think russians sometimes take slides very easily and because of that it's very difficult for the russians john to stand why easily and because of that it's very difficult for the russians john to stand. why is why are the europeans so nonchalant in when it comes to is why are the europeans so nonchalant in when it comes to their relationship with nato and the united states because the united states is or their relationship with nato and the united states because the united states is disregarding your security interests plain and simple
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over the last couple of years and you have disregarding your security interests plain and simple over the last couple of years and yet. the europeans are still paying lip service to ne there and the north atlantic the europeans are still paying lip service to nader and the north atlantic collective security even though you know you know full well that collective security even though you know you know full well that your interest when the push comes to shove i'm not taking into account your interest when the push comes to shove i'm not taking into account seriously they may be listened to but they're not taking into account. seriously they may be listened to but they're not taking into account. i have a different impression on that the americans of course took into account secure i have a different impression on that the americans of course took into account security interests of europeans that nato as
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a collective alliance decided to interest of europeans that nato as a collective alliance decided to reassure nato allies in the east for example a broad expanse of poland to reassure nato allies in the east for example a broad expanse of poland and the americans on top of these decisions send even. and the americans on top of these decisions send even. to poland reopened. storage sites to poland reopened. storage sites. to in order to be ready for reinforcements in a short while is that so one cannot so in order to be ready for reinforcements in a short while is that so one cannot say that the americans disregarded european interests 1st and he talked again of that the americans disregarded european interests 1st and he talked against the american veterans from the i have to do you
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believe that it presents a certain security just the american veteran from the i have to do you believe that it presents a certain security risk for europe done. i think it was careless i would not risk for europe done. i think it was careless i would not have restored result verification as i said verification is a core for arms control restore and result verification as i said verification is a core for arms control and whatever mutual accusations were there maybe we could have solved that and whatever mutual accusations were there maybe we could have solved it by technical expertise but technical exchange additional protocols and infotech technical expertise but technical exchange additional protocols and in particular up to fly to us because we have to find out what is the standard design of rockets up to fly to us because we have to find out what is the standard design of rockets and that was not done so for us 2nd i have the impression that the and
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that was not done so for us 2nd i have the impression that there were 2 reasons given from the american side one reason was russia about the other reason and maybe about 2 reasons given from the american side one reason was russia about the other reason and maybe more important was china the chinese missile that is still important was china the chinese missile that is stationed around the east and south china sea area s. around the east and south china sea areas. which are meant for a what do you call a strategy that means a started to interrupt for a call and a strategy that means a started to interrupt the movement or fleets into these cities so that the movement of fleets into these cities so that in case of
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a crisis. in case of a crisis china could. somehow interrupt american forces in america talk that somehow interrupt american forces in america took that . as an attack against their capabilities. as an attack against their capabilities and so. i think that security challenge without necessarily pulling out of a tree. i think that security challenge without necessarily pulling out of a treaty with russia and i know that you personally that it is now now the american that you've got russia and i know that you personally that it is now now that the americans are gone it is important for russia need to reach a political agreement that they will not be gone it is important for russia need to reach a political agreement that they will not deploy ground based on their weapons in
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europe at least for now i think deploy ground based on their weapons in europe at least for now i think it's not going to present any challenge when it comes to moscow moscow would agree it's a bad but do you think it's not going to present any challenge when it comes to moscow moscow would agree it's a bad but do you think such an agreement could be reached internally within nato literally difficult because such an agreement could be reached internally within nato literally difficult because 1st of all there is the case of the. 7 to 900 you know 2 of course was 1st of all there is the case of the 911 to nanda. tonight of course. which is not clear yet so one has to verify that. which is not clear yet so one has to verify that as i said. the alternative solution would be adjusted as i said. the alternative solution would be just to take this sort of person as
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a political effect and restore these kind of weapons let's take this sort of person as a political effect and restore these kind of weapons behind the euros and have a pledge not to station this kind of behind the euros and have a pledge not to station this kind of. offense inside europe that would be a political. fence inside europe that would be a politically desirable at least and it is for sure it will be discussed also inside nato desirable at least and it is for sure it will be discussed also inside nato and i guess there is no desire to engage i gotto and i guess there is no desire to engage a gun in a station in the race for drone launch weapons in europe given this rather cavalier when in a station in the race for drone launch weapons in europe given this rather cavalier wave it which cans and chair and leave agreements do you think waive it which the
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americans and chair and leave agreements do you think these agreement could be binding any russian made these agreement could be binding any russian niti agreement could be binding would you back your own money on its lend. it to agreement could be binding would you back your own money on its land. you have to distinguish between a legally binding treaty this and politically but you have to distinguish between a legally binding treaty is and politically binding commitment to having a litigant my name for it's written on yes we have political binding binding commitment to where you live to get my name for it's written on yes we have political binding commitments remember this or quote presidential nuclear initiatives of the 909199 commitments remember this so-called presidential nuclear initiatives of the 90919092 times where the both presidents just signal
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a story that they would drop 2 times where the both presidents just signal a story that they would withdraw tactical nuclear weapons there were no bind legally binding agreements about tactical nuclear weapons there are no bind legally binding agreements but it was done but it wasn't defeated e-rate was a different yeah you're right and now it did was done but it was a defeated ear a glass of it and yeah you know right now it it really requires some political will to come to that kind of solutions but it will require some political will to come to that kind of solutions but we have still the nato russia founding act was also restored and commitments and we try to keep them as still the nato russia founding act was also great certain commitments and we try to keep them no stationing of substantial additional substantial combat forces in the new no stationing of substantial additional substantial combat forces in the new nato countries for
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example russia reciprocated that for the openness of kaliningrad nato countries for example russia reciprocated that for the openness of kaliningrad scoff and bilaterally was no way on the northern part of europe and you have the story knows the score and bilaterally was no way on the northern part of europe and you have the story knows in a nato russia founding act which says we have no reason no intent and no plan in a nato russia founding act which says we have no reason no intent and no plenty. to station nuclear weapons for work that means. to station nuclear weapons for work that. you often advocate for the return to rules based order in europe and i think you often advocate for the return to a rules based order in europe and i think that presupposes that the sides agree on what the new starting point is in that presupposes that the sides agree on what the new starting point is you know beyond which they are not going to advance their
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security at the expense of the other side well beyond which they are not going to advance their security at the expense of the other side where should died new starting point be should it be post cold war where should died new starting point be should it be post cold war should it be sort of delayed to thousands with nato eagerly should it be sort of delayed to thousands with nato eagerly expanding towards russia's borders should it be post crimea what where is that expanding towards russia's borders should it be post crimea where is that new beginning that the orient ourselves by 1st of all we oppose crimea and that's new beginning that mischa the orient ourselves by 1st of all we oppose crimea and that's why many states in europe are concerned about the possibility of russia many states in europe are concerned about. possibility of russian aggression or whatever. second
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we have an arche an aggression or whatever. second we have an arche sometimes we tend to forget it the always c.e. and this is one of the difference to sometimes we tend to forget it the always c.e. and this is one of the difference to the cold war the organization for security and cooperation and organ order or the organization for security and cooperation and organization has as a notion a keith has as ochs commands and he resists docs recommend it is that if he is cetera which was implemented for many years we had a good an edge of cooperation which was implemented for many years where we had a good an edge of cooperation let's say in the 19 nineties and a little put in a fine tight enough and i would say up to. them that was and the new tensions and emerged again so these documents have never been contested even in 2010 in the
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capital again so these documents have never been contested even in 2010 in the capital of. stana we reconfirmed all these committal of. we reconfirmed all these commitments the question is not to invent new commitments the question is how would be the question is not to invent new commitments the question is how would we come back to a situation in which order states in europe agree not just come back to a situation in which order states in europe agree not just every but reconfirm if necessary defining clarify and then implement this commitment see confirm if necessary to find him clarify and then implement these commitments and this is for me the starting point. i think for russia and this is for me the starting point. i think for russians the starting point would be 2014 starting and the ending point
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and i think judging from the statements of the current russian leadership the starting point would be 2014 starting and the ending point and i think judging from the statements of the current russian leadership it certainly doesn't see the situation in ukraine as final it's not satisfied with this it certainly doesn't see the situation in ukraine as final it's not satisfied with this hostile state on its border. it's quite clear that. they don't it's border. it's quite clear that it wouldn't hold. the relationship between the 2 countries will improve with one day the relationship between the 2 countries will improve without any shadow of nato i want to ask you specifically do you thing the any shadow of nato i want to ask you specifically do you thing the e.u. and nato for that matter should consider these treaty chick battle you for that
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matter should consider these treaty giac battle over ukraine to be won and closed just because you have a program over ukraine to be won and closed just because you have. government in kiev for the last few days because this is our ultimate i mean that you know we can talk about the government in kiev for the last few days because this is our ultimate i mean that you know we can talk about the rules based order but this is a very pressing strategic and security concern for russia intervals based water but this is a very pressing strategic and security concern for russia and without it being addressed you know everything else is irrelevant. without it being addressed you know everything else is irrelevant. i personally regret that we are now talking again about the geopolitical 0 sum games and your regret that we are now talking again about the geopolitical 0 sum games in europe because you said we should be
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satisfied we have won the battle over this was up because you said we should be satisfied we have won the battle over this was not the intent and this. is the easy what's going on but not the intent and this was the approach of the it was the e what's going on but then also i see means very little in europe there is also a need to end the e.u. and then also i see means very little in europe there is also nato and the e.u. and these 2 entities played a very active role in the ukraine crisis and they just 2 entities played a very active role in the ukrainian crisis and they drove a very hard bargain when it was led on the actor for or about for a very hard bargain and when it was laid on the actor for or about for that into. nato decided in the summit in bucharest to get that into. nato decided in the summit in bucharest to offer georgia and romania membership there are some nato
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country georgia and romania membership there are some nato countries including my own that say that in future yes but not no bitter is including my own that said in future yes but not no because we do not want to destabilize the situation and what came out was a pledge because we do not want to destabilize the situation and what came out was a pledge that principally that there is an open door for everybody in europe but on that principally that there is an open door for everybody in europe but on the other hand there will not be any membership action plan but. when dora sounds the other hand there will not be any membership action plan but. dora sounds very threatening to russia and i heard you say before and you wrote about that in order to mentor very threatening to russia and i heard you say before and you wrote about that that in order to maintain these good will and rules based order in europe
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retain these good will and rules based order in europe russia has to pledge that it will not interfere militarily or otherwise india fisheye has to pledge that it will not interfere militarily or otherwise in the affairs of baltic states do you think a similar plot areas of baltic states do you think a similar plot would be required from the e.u. and nato with regards to you let's say would be required from the e.u. and nato with regards to you let's say ukraine georgia and potentially ah their russian neighbors i think really a crane georgia and potentially ah their russian neighbors. i think we would be well advised if we relinquish dia of geopolitical this year it would be well advised if we relinquish dhea of geopolitical this year 0 sum games in europe and britain if we could return to the idea of shaping some games in europe and britain
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if we could return to the idea of shaping europe together in a common security area such as our own yes in europe together in a common security area such as our own yes on the rest on side on the russian side and know that he can do something that's why we have proof on the rest on the russian side and know that he can do something that's why we have proposed a study. regime in the. post a study. regime in regard to stabilize the situation. and might also stabilize the situation. and really. it was a look in dress appropriate decorations that make clear that he would not make the look in dress appropriate decorations that make clear that he would not make the breach of international law 1st line of the breach of international even
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a lower. line british we would forgive it is old and rich so it will be followed so they have a clue what have these rest recipe procrit because they're dakota russians and so be it which was a pledge just a bit which was a pledge. just to clarify what is in there hasn't you pro commitments anyway not to interfere in internal affair if i want isn't there hasn't you pro commitments anyway not to interfere in internal affairs of countries that most sides could do can they both sides ever agree on as of countries that most sides could do can they both sides ever agree on the definition of interference or noninterference because you know better than i do that the definition of interference or noninterference because you know better than i do that the 2014 crisis in ukraine ultimately arrows
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from each 2014 crisis in ukraine ultimately arrows from each side believing that the other is inappropriately interfering in the affairs of ukraine side believing that the other is inappropriately interfering in the affairs of ukraine here is your right of course we have different perceptions on that and that's why. you're right of course we have different perceptions on that and that's was the only way to sort out the issue for future policy is that the only way to sort out the issue for future policy is to really invigorate dialogue we have to meet more often we have to talk politically not just about arms control issues and militias is to really invigorate dialogue we have to meet more often we have to talk politically not just about arms control issues and military forces and exercises but also about principles and we must military forces and exercises but
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also about principles and we must make sure that the principle of international law and the principles we have agreed in there as if ramberg that the principle of international law and the principles we have agreed in there as if ramberg would then for us for the future for all of us the guiding principle would then for us for the future for all of us the guiding principles to shape our common. common policies in europe as opposed to shape our common common policies in europe as one of their recommendations you suggested that the sides should recommit to relinquishing act if one of the recommendations you suggested that this side should recommit to relinquishing active pursuance of regime change policies in especially in the post soviet neighbor for syrians of regime change policies in especially in the post soviet neighborhood and i think to some extent history has taken care of
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that there is a clear regime change fatigue could and i think to some extent history has taken care of that there is a clear regime change 50. in the post office space perhaps one exception of russia if in the post office space perhaps one exception of russia if for ringback whatever reason an opportunity to top of the pushing or whatever we should resign even and now by the top of the putin regime by the putin government there rose do you think the west would be able to resist the temptation to government that rose do you think the west would be able to resist the temptation there is a temptation. to stay. there is a temptation a realist. to states have different opinions on that there might be a temptation on the other hand that's my question to russia opinions on that there might be a temptation on the other hand that's my question to russia russia. justified the
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intervention by the need to protect russia. justified the intervention by the need to protect country men so if one could only sell 65. country men so if one could only sell $65.00. maritime interest and. never to i mean this was a strategic time interest and they of crimean based it was never to you i mean this was a strategic reasons which is much more important than that but this notion to protect it degrees is much more important than that but this notion to protect country men has particularly. in their boat country men has particularly. in the baltic states because they have a lot of country men russian speaking minorities it takes that it's because they have a lot of country men speaking minorities if you could to step back from that and make clear we don't interfere mutually dress appropriately we don't feel quick to
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step back from that and make clear we don't interfere mutually reciprocally we don't. neighboring countries it would be a major step forward looking into. neighboring countries it would be a major step forward mr ritter we have to leave it there but they really appreciate your candor and your availability mr richter we have to leave it there but they really appreciate your candor and your availability today thank you very much for coming over. today thank you very much for coming over. our viewers can keep this conversation going in our social media pages as for me and the team we hope to see this conversation going in our social media pages as for me and the team we hope to see same place same time on worlds apart. same place same time on worlds apart.
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during the great depression. during the great depression which.
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old mr alderman of them stirred there with him sir there with him was most of my family refer them to political or. otherwise it wasn't and it was bed you know you know much much worse of 2 subjects just instantly and day but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america where shame is a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america was shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power it by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack solo debt. reduced democracy attack solo debt engineer elections manufacture consent and other principle engineer elections
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manufacture consent and other principled since according to no one controlled home since day. one once etc rules for the rich. opposites. that's what happens when you opposites. that's what happens when you put more into the hands of a narrow sector of. our into the hands of a narrow sector of will which will is dedicated to increasing power for itself just as you'd expect wealth which will is dedicated to increasing. virtual stressed as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about them are one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. and civilization of america.
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russian national and gun rights. russia national and gun rights activist maria butanol arrives back in moscow after serving most of an 18 month prison sentence reduced maria butanol arrives back in moscow after serving most of an 18 month prison sentence in the us last fall for unregistered lobbying activities she shared her story. first here on our to international. he just took some hollywood cliches in made me here on our to international. he just took some hollywood cliches him. the color of my hero in my features served as proof of guilt. the color of my hero in my feature served as proof of guilt. because we see this in the movies. because we see this in the movies.
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it made for a good headlines on t.v. . donald trump triumphantly announces that. donald trump triumphantly announces that that islamic states leader has been killed in a u.s. special forces operation in syria that islamic states leader has been killed in a u.s. special forces operation in syria but. it does not mean the end of the terror group . does not mean the end of the terror group.

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