Description: Two Queens in Search, NAMBLA Pt.2, Jim Kepner, Sister BoomBoom, AIDS.
Jim Kepner was a leader in the gay rights movement whose work eventually contributed to the formation of the ONE National Gay & Lesbian Archives. Sister Boom Boom, also known as Sister Mary Boom Boom, was the drag nun persona of astrologer Jack Fertig and member of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.
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April 5, 2019 Subject:
Transcript of 30:05 - 35:04 (Segment on Sister Boom Boom)
[It's A Cryin' Shame (Sha La La La La) by David Lasley fades out]
John Sugar: And we gotta interrupt because we got a very special phone call! That’s right! Sister Boom Boom, you’re on the radio.
Sister Boom Boom: Well I wish you hadn’t interrupted so quickly, I hate to stop a pretty song!
JS: I’m tellin’ you, [indistinguishable], Sister Boom Boom, first of all – is that a nun with gas? What exactly is a Sister Boom Boom?
SBB: People have been asking me that for years and I still don’t have an answer.
JS: Now that you’re married, are you going to have a Baby Boom Boom?
SBB: Well I’m not married yet, and, um, no we are not expecting any kind of Baby Boom, we are quite challenged already by our cats, Leather and Latex.
JS: Yes, I- I read about that somewhere. Um, listen, lemme- lemme ask you something, um, is Misty on the line too?
SBB: No, Misty’s not home from work yet.
JS: Oh, and what a strenuous job she has. Um, listen Jack, is it- is the reason that you’re marrying, uh, a woman- is it because being a gay male nun is passé and you’ve been reading about these lesbian nuns coming out of the closet and you wanna be a lesbian nun? Is that it, or what?
SBB: Well, it’s gonna take a lot more than a wedding to turn me into a lesbian, and-
JS: Oh, me too, Jack.
SBB: I- I don’t know, I, like- well all this business about lesbian nuns just demonstrates what we’ve already known, that it’s not at all unusual for nuns to fall in love and to develop deep personal relationships. I think we’re very lucky to be perhaps the only nuns who have formed such a relationship who can get married.
JS: Jack, are you mentally stable?
SBB: Oh dear, in this world does anybody dare to be mentally stable?
JS: I know I can’t do it anymore.
SBB: Well, you never could. That’s what I love about you-
JS: Dish, dish, dish!
SBB: -the highest integrity of any reporter I know, you’re the only one I know who admits to a history of brain damage.
JS: [Laughs] I wanna thank you for, uh, that, you know- that hip insight, you know why? Um, Sister Boom Boom, I’m wondering, I mean, I know you’re an astrologer, and, uh, you know, you seem to have a finger on the pulse of what’s happening in America, I’m wondering if you’re curious about the Letters to the Editor that’ll be in the BAR – I mean, you were on the front page news on the BAR about your marriage, and how do you think the ho-hums are gonna take this, you know, the people that are, uh, jealous of you because, you know, you’re out there and you’re brave enough to say what’s really on your mind.
SBB: Well, I had no idea that ar- well, I mean, it’s really not-
JS: You had no idea what, dear? Tell me [indistinuishable], no idea.
SBB: It’s confusing, really, I mean, is it so shocking for people to fall in love and get engaged? Um-
JS: Not you, Jack! For Christ’s sake-
SBB: Oh, I fall in love at the drop of a belt, there’s nothing unusual about that at all.
JS: Drop of a whole lot of things, I’m told.
JS: Drop of a habit, as it were.
SBB: As it were, but-
JS: I’m sorry, [indistinguishable], but Terry Hutchinson threw that one at me, so, you know, do you know Terry Hutchinson?
SBB: Well too bad he didn’t hit you square in the jaw with it.
JS: Hit me with- well, God knows he tried.
SBB: Maybe he couldn’t reach that high.
JS: So, listen- Oooooh! Ooh! Listen honey, you keep messin’ with me and you’re gonna need drugs to kill the pain. I’m tellin’ you. But um-
SBB: What drugs you got?!
JS: [Laughs] Well not over the air, my friend! For Gosh sakes- though you have been kind and I do love you for it. Um, let’s see, what can we talk about- what kind of news can you break for our Fruit Punch audience, you know, like, you know, can you make us the vanguard of gay liberation here by- by eschewing, uh-
SBB: Honey, I tried that when I helped start that show twelve years ago.
SBB: Um, but, no- I mean, getting back to the thing about the letters in the news-
JS: Letters in the nude? Yeah, go on.
SBB: Well, I was just startled it was on the front page of the BAR, let alone the-
JS: Oh yeah, you were startled, pull your claws in, give me a break! You knew it was- I mean, you know, what else- what else they had, you know-
SBB: The front page, what else they got? You know, they got lots of pictures of boys with their shirts off, that’s what they usually run on the front page.
JS: Well, it’s relevant, isn’t it? I mean, we are gay, we are defined by what kind of sex we have for Christ’s sake-
JS: Yeah, go on, come on, you only have a minute and a half, honey.
SBB: Oh, is that all I have?
JS: Yeah, David’s shootin’ me the bird. You wouldn’t believe what he’s doing [laughs]. You know. So is there any- is there anything you’d like to tell Gay America right now? You know, you’re being broadcasted everywhere from Sacker Tomato[?] to Sanpenny Jose[?], so is there anything you’d like to say?
SBB: Well, since we’re not going to be getting spousal benefits for same-sex marriages any time soon, I recommend that people look at the institutions available and take advantage of what they can.
JS: [Laughs] Hallelujah, thank you, and, uh [kiss sound] God, you’ve really been refreshing and insightful and, you know, I’m-
SBB: I think it’s important for men and women to relate to each other, not necessarily sexually, but the gay and lesbian communities have become so seperated.
JS: And you think we need to marry to do that, huh? Is that it?
SBB: No, you don’t need to be married, I think that something about the gay men’s community in San Francisco that is very ingrown and very ghetto-ized, I mean there’s a lot in it that’s very good, I don’t wanna put it down altogether, but I think, y’know, men really do not reach out to women at a deep, emotional level very much. And I think we sort of lose out that way.
JS: Well listen Jack, I just wanna thank you again, we are gonna move on with the rest of our show, I do appreciate you calling in Fruit Punch, and, you know, I also do appreciate you in my life, as it were, and, uh, you know, best of luck to you, and, um, please let me be the first to know when the big date is.