Furthur Live at Hammerstein Ballroom on 2009-12-08
2. Jam >
3. Truckin' >
4. Dire Wolf
5. Doin' That Rag
6. Ramblin' Rose
7. Reuben and Cherise
8. Looks Like Rain
9. Cosmic Charlie
1. Drums > King Solomon's Marbles >
2. He's Gone >
3. New Potato Caboose >
4. The Other One >
5. Days Between >
6. Scarlet Begonias >
7. Fire on the Mountain >
8. Cold Rain and Snow
9. crowd / donor rap
10. E: Touch of Gray
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|Cold Rain and Snow|
|He's Gone >|
|Reuben and Cherise|
|Looks Like Rain|
|Doin' That Rag|
|Scarlet Begonias >|
|Fire on the Mountain >|
|crowd / donor rap|
|Days Between >|
|The Other One >|
|New Potato Caboose >|
|Drums > King Solomon's Marbles >|
|Touch of Gray|
- 2009-12-09 17:08:34
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- New York, NY
- Run time
- Taped by
- Freddie G
- Transferred by
- Ari Jaffess
- Hammerstein Ballroom
All things considered, they're in good form this night - some highlights:
*Doin' That Rag. John K does this one justice, and brings the essence of the song right on out.
*Marbles. They absolutely scorch the place with this reading - it's note-perfect. Definitely the highlight of the night for me.
*I have absolutely no problem at all with Bobby singing Days Between - aside from a missed lyric or two, he pays Jer high respect. What I can't stand is the endless audience chatter clearly going on during the quieter parts - really, people....
Subject: Parts of this are really great,
In regards to Bobby, well he is one of the best guitarists in rock history. Listen to any soundboard from 1972-74 and you will hear his genius. His playing is unique and perfectly compliments the music. Nearly every Jerry song from that era (and thereafter) has incredible rhythm parts by Bob. Jerry is essentially "plunking" while he sings and Bobby plays MOST OF THE GUITAR during Jerry's songs (during vocal verses).
Yes the band had problems with Bob during the early years (67-69), but he got the message and became one of the best and most unique guitarists in rock.
He was certainly overshadowed by Garcia, but don't discount his amazing playing.
Listen to any Crazy Fingers, Row Jimmy or Althea from the 1980's and you will hear the most sublime and perfect playing.
You have to really listen to hear how good it is, that is why it is SO GOOD.
Go to this "how to play" site and about the one minute mark he features Bob's licks in Half-Step
If you really start listening to Bob you will hear IT.
Subject: Bobby and Phil
I think this is just another chapter in what has been many chapters since Jerry's death. I think Jerry is looking down with a big smile because the vibe and spirit of the Grateful Dead is alive and well in whatever band is on stage.
By the way, I thought both 12/8 and 12/11 were both great shows.
i find it a bit creepy that JK kind of sounds like jerry, and even more disturbing at how phil and bob are trying desperatly to sound like the grateful dead.
i'm also confused about why they dropped warren billy and mickey from the line up, or just didnt go with this line up from the start.
shows like this help me understand why some heads got off the bus in the late 70's and early 80's.
it's just my .02
Subject: ALMOST as good as it can get
I don't understand the criticism of the taping (go do it yourself if you want a different sound - or buy the soundboards) and I really don't get the criticism of the band. Jerry is gone. We'll never have that again. But, the music lives on and that is the important thing. Bringing JK into the band really says they are ensuring the music lives on. Phil and Bobby won't be touring much longer and are setting the stage for what comes next.
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for this tape. I cannot wait for 3/5 & 3/6 when they hit the Odeum here in Colorado!
Subject: Criticizing tapers? Really?
It is fine to say something along the lines of "I wish there was less crowd noise in this recording." That might be a fair criticism (though I disagree in this particular case). To give instructions to a taper is a bit ridiculous. Shotguns would probably sound bad in a place as small as the Hammerstein (though I have never tried or heard guns in that room). Putting the mic stand higher potentially sacrifices some sound quality, depending on the configuration of the stacks. Most stacks are pointed at the floor for a reason. They are configured to provide the sweet spot of sound at human ear level near the soundboard. This theater has two levels of balconies, but the stacks are still pointed downward. Crowd control is an issue, but there is only so much a taper can do without ruining his or her own experience at the show and / or getting in fights or creating additional crowd noise with arguments, etc.
People should feel free to criticize sound quality. That is good discussion. If you really want a different type of tape though, run your own rig and show us how it's done...
Subject: Subject: Bobby??
I can respect your opinion but I can't give you that Bobby is an: "American original and most arguably among the most original of all rock guitarist, lead or rhythm."
Like many here, I've followed and totally love the Dead since '76. But I never once have I nor any article I've ever read considered Bobby in this high regard. He was a Band that could considered those things but there are numerous articles of Bobby being almost kicked out for not being good enough or changing the chords so he could play them.
Subject: Thank you...
Subject: opinions are opinions...
With regards to having a great recording, such as this one, made better (???) by eliminating the magical blended harmonies of the faithfull singing joyously along with the boys is like saying a dead show would be better if you could remove the smell of the kind hazy cloud of sticky-icky which predominates the atmosphere the moment the lights go out.
any recording which doesnt have an audible interplay between band and audience simply misses the point in my OPINION.
Simply stated I would like to thank the good soul at the controls for delivering the sound of the magic we faithful are still chasing from show to show and download to download.
See ya'll at Barton Hall on Valentines day-got my tix today and I cant wait ;))
Subject: They will get better
Subject: It's Good But . . .
That said, the band sounds awesome. There are some real moments here it just hits me as such a let down when something like "Days" (a real personal fave) comes up and Bobby sings. Other than that, I'm digging it. Excellent recording.
Subject: Good to see them back with a more Jerry-esque sound
This is the first time I felt tempted to hop back on tour since the late 80s!
They teased the Other One throughout the beginning of the second set. I was psyched when they finally hit it!!!
2nd night was a lot of fun also. I wish my wife would let me hit the CT show tonight and Jersey... Oh well, got to grow up someday, right?!! There is always Radio City and Mohegan Sun in two and a half months. Can't wait for those...
Subject: Great start more shows coming!!!!
To the person who feels this is the best ensemble, don't forget about some of the shows with Kimock, very strong playing by a great musician!!!
Heading to the Oakdale tomorrow and can’t wait!!!!!
Subject: Touch Of Grey
His Scarlet/Fire was spot on.
Subject: Another auspicious begining
Looking forward to the weekend big time.
A five star recording too!! Fantastic recording, thanks for the music.
Subject: Excellent Show - 10 Pounds of Patatos(Caboose) in a 5 lb bag
The jam that started led into a rockin Truckin followed by a real nice Dire Wolf.I tought it was nicely done, slow than the latter year Jerry versions but real good stuff.Doin That Rag was a fucken POWERHOUSE. Rueben and Cherise was done beautifully with a nice little Carribian flair
Ramble on Rose and Looks Like Rain lead us into a SMOKIN 1st set closer of Cosmic Charlie. Tough song to do live with some intricate harmonies but boy o boy they nailed it.
Drums into King Solomons Marbles was incredible and seemed to me flawless.He's Gone led us back to the early days with Phil on lead vocals of New Patato Caboose (what a FN treat)
After some fucking with our heads and teasing the band let into a strong Other One with Bobby in fine form followed by a sweet Days Between (it will always belong to only Jerry but nicely done)
Scarlet Fire as the lead up to the encore was great. Donor Rap and a Touch of Grey encore. Nice wa\y to end the show.
As far as the 10 lbs of patatos in a 5 lb bag it's about the Hammerstein. They always oversell that fucken place and it's impossible to move on the floor level. Getting a beer or going to the bathroom is like a task on fucken survivor. Thank god i was standing on the decl behind that soundboard so I was able to see everything and move a liitle but boy otherwise it was a pain in the ass. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
I'm hitting both nights in Asbury later this week which is so cool being it's 20 minutes from my house. Look any east coast heads who can somehow score a ticket for Asbury should go because this band is tight - well rehearsed and amazing. plus be ready to be rocked by some 40 year old nuggets like Doin that Rag & Caboose.
Find a ticket & go - you won't be dissapointed.
Subject: let the band sing
Subject: Climb aboard
Close your eyes, and you'll swear Jerry is still with us. Not just in spirit. JK's vocals on Jerry tunes are spot on. His guitar work is often note for note the sounds etched in my memory bank of Dead shows of yore.
The show's highlights feature songs from the Dead's early days, Cosmic Charley, Doin' that Rag, and the first part of The Other One. Add a really nice Scarlet-Fire with Touch of Grey encore, and it made for a grate evening : - )
Subject: Still Crazy after all these years
THANK you for the Music that NEVER stops.
45+ years and GOING AND GOING.
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