pilgrim who'd been living in syria for sixteen years and he told me if everyone in syria wanted to go he would be gone this is not to say that a substantial number of syrians don't want him to go they do want him to go but there is a constituency in syria that supports a sub the problem is that we don't have the west doesn't have anyone to bring to the negotiating table the syrian opposition is completely fractured who represents the syrian opposition could could give me five names that represent the syrian opposition who can go to the negotiation table and talk to assad you know i can argue for him it was because of the point in the poorest a week in the middle east the great powers are you know they have lost their influence wherever so that's the that is one of the delimiters you know the people the countries who can bring about some sort of meaningful peace or not you know in russia there might be saudi arabia or because the so do you i knew all that was really really depressed or very depressing to find syria that's a very depressing thought that saudi arabia would be playing tha

well syria was. was a revolution in the in the in the same way that egypt saw its revolution which toppled hosni mubarak in the same way that tunisia so revolution that toppled the and in the same way that the people of libya rose the people of syria as well as yemen other countries also rose at the very same time the context can't be ignored the syrian revolution for six months after it starts all it was calling for was the reform of the regime not the fall of the regime you mentioned that their way of started to was through peaceful protests and i take your point i was there on the ground are so many of those peaceful rallies but i think the protests. is that i saw back then in damascus and in many other syrian cities have absolutely nothing in common with the armed rebels and the problem is that yourself your group and many other arab intellectuals in the west seem to you said just that you know on this particular case using violence using aren't resistance may be justified in my my argument is th

israel teamed up with turkey wanted to launched one of its recent attacks all syria that's according to sources officials have strongly denied the claims. meanwhile syria's miniature reportedly prions a rebel lab or a tree used to produce and store chemical substances the claims come from syrian state television. plans under spreads across the u.s. with police firing rubber bullets at crowds protesting the controversial acquittal of george zimmerman the schole dad an unarmed black teenager. and a welcome to our c twenty news live from moscow my name is you. main story now for the first time since the outbreak of this syrian conflict israel used tigerish military bases for one of its recent strikes against syria that's according to the sources that makes a stunning this now from our middle east correspondent paula slee. auti sources tell us that israel used turkish military bases to launch attacks inside syria the latest attack was carried out in early july when there was a pre-dawn strike on the syrian city of latakia that allegedly targeted russian made anti ship missiles u.s. offic

well syria was. was a revolution in the in the in the same way that egypt saw its revolution which toppled hosni mubarak in the same way that tunisia so revolution that toppled the and in the same way that the people of libya rose the people of syria as well as yemen other countries also rose at the very same time the context can't be ignored the syrian revolution for six months after it starts all it was calling for was the reform of the regime not the fall of the regime you mentioned that their way of was through peaceful protests and i take your point i was there on the ground are so many of those peaceful rallies but i think the protesters that i saw back then in damascus and in many other syrian cities have absolutely nothing in common with the armed rebels and the problem is that your south your group and many other arab intellectuals in the west seem to you said just that you know on this particular case using violence using aren't resistance may be justified in my my argument is that it is no

the alawites have the right to live in syria. no one should be excluded from society. >> narrator: the next morning, just as the united nations truce begins, ahmad and his comrades prepare for battle. >> (translated): we always try and pray before battle. it makes us stronger. we've realized that only god will help us. so we ask god for the strength to attack more checkpoints. >> narrator: ahmad is going to attack a large government base at wadi daif. it's a major launching point for artillery attacks in the region. it also protects the regime's main supply route from the capital, damascus, to syria's embattled second city, aleppo. >> narrator: for weeks, they've been besieging the base at wadi daif. the fighting has been intense. the brother of rebel leader jamal maarouf was killed here only weeks ago. today they plan to storm the base and overrun it. the fog allows them to move unseen to within striking distance. the base lies less than a mile down this road, and is manned by up to 500 regime soldiers. >> narrator: jamal used t

an arms inside syria syria should solve its problems on its own look we we we should say to every country in the world they should everybody should choose their own country their own government their own solutions nobody should put his leg. other people's problems but unfortunately it seems like in case of syria they really don't have much say in what happens to them i mean about syrian people and that's a bet says a lot about both sides it says a lot about the opposition and that says a lot about the government. so i would i wouldn't be choosing either of them actually to be to be the spokesman of the syrian people and what about lebanon when you talk it's a global thing what's going to happen in lebanon because people always talk about lebanon and how beautiful multiethnic it was back in the seventy's and that's also under threat of extinction right now especially with syria. have you know lebanon has been the field for everybody since a long time for the palestinians for this is that eight is for the sea it is the feeling for every single war everybody fires his own battles on the land

bush as war criminal and dan condone some of the similar tactics in syria is precisely because of this tribal. reason like when you have a now that i'm going to tell you man it's not limiting but why what else about them are absorbed by mr al to create it but when you say that as an arab or as a muslim as a or as a humanitarian here have some more entitle men to come in to syria and say to the syrian people who are still highly divided in the attitude towards assad because you know a significant proportion still supports president assad whether you like it or not so when you are coming to syria and start telling those people who should be their legitimate leader and who should be not i think this is the very same argument that president bush said because president bush based it on a humanitarian basis he said the american capital rights and responsibilities to protect the oppressed people of iraq now what you're saying is that because you're an arab because you're a muslim you for some reason have the same right or. more in title meant to protecting the syrian people but to me it sound

who is slaughtering his own people is that an accurate description of what is actually happening in syria because they know what is actually happening is a very brutal civil war now between the government and versus porters and the rebels and their supporters and now both sides are clearly guilty of. regarding civilians as an incidental collateral damage if you like i think it's probably true to say that most of the casualties we're talking about around one hundred thousand most of the casualties have been civilians and very many of them it's very hard to say how many have been killed by the the government tactics of fighting the war by shelling and bombing civilian towns because that's where they believe the rebels are i think what's crucial in the western narrative on the syrian conflict is that the line between combatants and civilians is really really blurred and i think i would argue that it is done for political reasons because one we have quite a mother who is nursing her baby somewhere in homes and her male neighbor with a kalashnikov who is a attacking in nearby army checkpoint y

problems of syria. heart of the strategy have been useful. part of them had in disastrous. parts of them have simply been good ideas that have not worked out. but it has been very clear that when you have a situation with 100 thousand dead, millions of refugees displaced, the terry and is him spreading like wildfire around -- sectarianism spreading like wildfire, it is not a policy you want to hold up as a glowing success. the problem is none of the major alternatives on offer are any better. he often hear from senator mccain and others that everything which the critics predicted would happen if we intervene has happened anyway. in some ways, it is true. absolute disaster. but we are not embedded neck deep in a quad meyer with american troops now caught in the relentless pressure to expand our commitment, to go deeper, stay longer, have a newe of troops, try a counterinsurgency strategy. people talk about the slippery slope like it is a throwaway thing -- ok, the slippery slope, we are worried about tha

or under the rebels of course the rebels may take syria out of its relationship with iran israel is bitter enemy but at the same time they may be connected with al qaeda was well the global jihad which is another a sworn enemy of israel so israel does not take sides in the syrian civil war what israel is afraid of is that on the golan heights the very front where it confronts both the rebels and the syrian army units both of these forces may independently attack israel and therefore israel would love to keep out of the war in syria and would like the various forces there to keep fighting each other rather than attacking israel all right i mean oren a senior correspondent and columnist at the ha'aretz newspaper from all of us here at r.t. thank you for joining us on this sunday. well additional police are to be deployed to belfast shortly in the program to run out to bring you the latest from northern ireland's capital which has been engulfed in sectarian violence for the second night in a row if you can do please stay with us here on out. i'm not used to the tundra to freedom i am m

syria very aggressive and does it can vary a little syria especially the united states but what do you think of such cooperation between some of the syrian government's toughest rivals in the region mean now for the assad regime well i don't think that this is a huge change for all the general situation because. what's supporting in the past the so-called rebels in this what the media claim it is a civil war but isn't the reality since a long time approx ebor we have right now militants from more than twenty five nations fighting in syria against the syrian government and of course east river was supporting the rebels. they fall and arms and weaponry from. the revenue side and turkey also is supporting in a strong way the rebels on syrian soil. and in siding with the syrian opposition turkey maintains what's been described as an open door policy towards its arab neighbor around four hundred thousand refugees have fled across the border into turkey and most of them are settling down as what's become known it now as a buffer zone meanwhile on korea's been facilitating the transfer of wea

sixteen s but sources inside syria are indicating that in fact that was shot down by syria so so there are still some some up in the air about that report but if true again that means that syria has already taken this quite seriously now again tech is one of the strongest opponents of this see were in government so surely uncle i would have nothing against teaming up with israel which is no friend of i'm cry that what do you think well i think obviously. these types of extreme circumstances can create strange bedfellows and most people wouldn't see turkey and israel getting into into bed in a military operation but again they do share that that animosity toward syria and i think they're both interested in seeing the assad government overthrown so i think in this case it does make sense and it goes to show that i think or don't want it is more likely to cozy up to israel then the massive turkish turkish population i think there's a big divide between what the turkish people think about this and what the early one government is doing absolutely and actually i would i want to toss k. what

whole and while come to worlds apart humanitarian concerns have been thought of in syria to justify all thoughts of military actions with the distinction between combatants and civilians purposeful have learned how much more difficult has it made the provision of help to those who desperately need it well to discuss that i'm now joined by sir john holmes for my view and emergency relief coordinator and currently be you can. for the international rescue committee sir john thank you very much for taking time to talk to us before we start i would like to remind our viewers how this conflict was and. is still being pre-trained in many of the western media. that is trying to stop the killing of syrian citizens by their own government people have been tempered straining and they're resisting assad in their being slaughtered by the sad for well over a year the biggest risk would be allowing bashar al assad to keep on slaughtering his people you've got a dictator who is brutalizing his people using chemical weapons against innocent people search on a dictator who is slaughtering his own people

pilgrim who'd been living in syria for sixteen years and he told me if everyone in syria wanted to go he would be gone this is not to say that a substantial number of syrians don't want him to go they do want him to go but there is a constituency in syria that supports a sub the problem is that we don't have the west doesn't have anyone to bring to the negotiating table the syrian opposition is completely fractured who represents the syrian opposition could could give me five names that represent the syrian opposition who can go to the negotiation table and talk to assad no i cannot give you for him it was beside the point in that the the poorest are weak in the middle east great powers that are you know they have lost their influence wherever so that's the that is one of the dilemmas you know the people the countries who can bring about some sort of meaningful peace or not you know in russia there might be saudi arabia in iraq because the thirty one year old severely depressed or very depressing find syria that's a very depressing thought that saudi arabia would be playing that role

while i would like to ask you about the syria the conflict in syria the position of your organization. but don't argue with me with them ask me questions and i answer you if you meant a challenge to challenge and to right to prove that you are right i'm wrong this is not within view i don't know where my own who are you only know this what you're doing i'm sorry would you come and. interview with mr blank you will know until america's doing this and blah blah and you cannot say that. you cannot say i mean have a public debate in the world i mean this is not a bus this is not the way to appeal to push public debate and we are not we are really making interview we are not making into regulation no it's not supposed to be interesting but i would like to have a conversation it's a conversation has a limit and has a ticket we should observations let's go and if you don't like the way i interview or we just stop right there mr exxon although just before i began to break you were talking about syria being in the sake of different for legends and different strains of islam and i think it was

weak syria's unity is under threat. well the first journalist and award winning blogger neil clark told me he believes the syrian opposition will use the al qaeda threat to desperately try to secure western intervention that. it's interesting isn't it when president assad was warning about al-qaeda in syria from twenty eleven or was he was dismissed by the west it was scaremongering etc he was saying that al qaeda was coming to her in syria and now we're hearing this from the f.s.a. so it's interesting isn't it that those of those who didn't want this would have were dismissed as the apologist for a sad ologist the syrian government now the west has got to wake up to what's really going on and that i think having said that it's very important to understand the f.s.a. strategy of the free syrian army is very keen to get western intervention i think they're now change their strategy look al qaeda going to take over unless we do the and help us the f.s.a. have lost all bases and i think now they're lost and say look you've

villains but what they also know is that eighty percent of those who have been killed in syria so far a male now if you operate on the notion that it is assad slaughtering his own people such as usual chunder distribution of would be highly improbable wouldn't it i'm not saying all all the ninety three thousand one hundred thousand are civilians but a few are saying i'm quite a lot a portion of them are if you look at the reporting of the conflict in the documented events that have been a lot of people are also women and children and of course a lot of men are not fighting you also have the fact that a lot of women and children fled syria you have nearly between one and a half and two million people who have now fled syria and most of those are women and children and the organization you now represent also. released an interesting statistic recently the international rescue committee says that about eighty percent of refugees in turn then and turkish camps are women and children so you're half a percentage of those who are killed in syria. and eighty percent percent of those who fled

well syria. was a revolution in the in the in the same way that egypt saw its revolution which toppled hosni mubarak in the same way that tunisia so revolution that toppled the and in the same way that the people of libya rose the people of syria as well as yemen other countries also rose at the very same time the context can't be ignored the syrian revolution for six months after it starts all it was calling for was the reform of the regime not the fall of the regime you mentioned that there were fired . through peaceful protests and i take your point i was there on the ground are so many of those peaceful rallies but i think the protesters that i saw back then in damascus and in many other syrian cities have absolutely nothing in common with they aren't rebels and the problem is that your south your group and many other arab intellectuals in the west seem to you said just that you know on this particular case using violence using aren't resistance may be justified and my my argument is that it

envoy to syria. president ahtisaari is also -- [laughter] the 2 -- the focus for this meeting is the palace dan conflict. this event could not have been more opportune given the announcement friday the delegation is visiting washington at the start of this planned engagement. members will explore how they can be helpful. from washington, they would go directly to london meeting with paid. meetings in beijing and paris will follow. today, they held talks with secretary kerry and susan rice, mainly on the middle east and why they are not in a position to tell us what they told them, exactly. we would be hearing from them about matters regarding the peace process and what needs to be done. i thought i would ask of your impression of where matters stand. what can we expect from the latest initiative of carries and the upcoming negotiations and people are still skeptical whether negotiations will need to break through or whether we will see another endless process. you have been a peace negotiator who has

getting involved in syria directly. his coalition partners the liberal democrats are not supportive really of them are not supported certainly and public opinion is not supported brought the political landscape has changed for the first time. it is being realized in the west that no matter how much there are surance that from western governments that. only the good guys will get help in terms of arms supplies but that's not the case on the ground and saudi arabia is very worried about the rise of slumming fundamentalism in syria because jordan and some of the interview quite close and islamic fundamentalism especially. sunni islam is on for some royal family now damron says that he could arm syrian rebels or without any kind of vote from parliament to support that do you think that's something that would be well received by the electorate should he go ahead and do that on his own well he has indicated that. i don't think he will issue and will accept it in general that is from mr cameron's own view but he can't carry th

syria very aggressive and does it can vary a little syria especially the united states but what do you think of such cooperation between some of the syrian government's toughest rivals in the region mean now for the assad regime well i don't think that this is a huge change for all the general situation because. what's supporting in the past the so-called rebels in this what the media claim it is a civil war but isn't the reality since a long time approx evil order we have right now militants from more than twenty five nations fighting in syria against the syrian government and of course east river was supporting the rebels they fall and arms and weaponry from. the revenue side and turkey also is supporting in a strong way the rebels on syrian soil. and interview with turkish media the country's foreign minister denied claims israel used the turkish military base to launch an attack against syria to find out more we're now joined live from istanbul by our correspondent. paula any reaction so far to this breaking news we've been covering for the past several hours here on. not. a single

sources tell all see that these are all used attackers base to carry out a recent naval act tacos syria but ankara denies the allegations of collaboration. meanwhile the syrian army finds an alleged rebel lobby used to store and produce chemical substances that's according to the country's state television. on clashes under rats ass protests and rage across the you was triggered by the acquittal of a neighborhood watch god. a black teenager. international news and comment live from moscow this is us he was me you know. and very well welcome to the program for the first time since the outbreak of the syrian conflict sources have told us he that israel used the turkish military base to launch a recent attack against syria at least correspondent policia hausa details. auti sources tell us that israel used turkish military bases to launch attacks inside syria the latest attack was carried out in early july when there was a pre-dawn strike on the syrian city of latakia that allegedly targeted russian made anti ship missiles u.s. officials speaking on condition of anonymity say that this atta

to have should have we should not be putting our heads and arms inside syria syria should solve its problems on its own like we we we should say to every country in the world they should everybody should choose their own country their own government their own solutions nobody should put his leg. other people's problems but unfortunately it seems like in case of syria they really don't have much say in what happens to them i mean about syrian people and that's that says a lot about both sides it says a lot about the opposition and it says a lot about the government. so i would i wouldn't be choosing either of them actually to be to be the spokesman of the syrian people and what about lebanon when you talk it's a global thing what's going to happen in lebanon because people always talk about lebanon and how beautiful. it was back in the seventy's and that's also under threat of extinction right now especially with syria. have you know lebanon has been the field for everybody since a long time for the palestinians for this is that eight is for the sea it is. for every single war everybody fires

to turn to the legacy of his successor barack obama and in particular one conflict the conflict in syria the most pressing conflict being faced and i think you would agree with me that. the best chance for successful mediation would be in the early stages of any given conflict but that's right that's right so if we analyze the syrian conflict it won through a set. stages of. gradual building up of tensions than gradual militarization and then pretty early in the conflict in the summer of two thousand and eleven we had some members of the international community declaring one of the sides to this conflict as illegitimate and throwing their support behind the other side now i'm not interested in debating the political aspect of that decision obviously i think there could be many different views but from a structural point of view from the point of view of conflict resolution what impact did that decision had on the dynamics of war did it help to prolong the conflict or did it help to bring about peace what we know now i mean it's a very bloody conflict which has been known to going on for

called the problems of syria. i think part of the strategy have been useful. parts of them have been disastrous. parts of them have simply been good ideas that have not worked out. we are very clear that when you have a situation with millions of refugees and sectarianism spreading through the region, that is not policy that you want to hold up. but the problem is that none of the major alternatives are any better. i hear from senator mccain and others in everything which the critics predicted would happen if we intervene have happened anyway. in some ways that is true. syria is a disaster. but we are not embedded neck deep in it. many are caught in the plotless pressure to expand commitments and go deeper, stay longer, have a surge of troops. people talk about this slippery slope like it is a throwaway thing where it is a slippery slope that we are worried about. we cannot do that. you have to think about what happens when someone doesn't work. something actually need to think about the various policies and i thi

let's stop the destruction of syria. that requires diplomacy.you have to go to the russis and say we are not talking about defeating you policy wise. a cease-fire is good for you, it is good for us. how can we get there? >> i have to ask, where are the traditional middle easternpowers of france and britain in this quest to markwhy is this our moral responsibility?>> it is not altruism, we ought to go with the view of, what is our national interest? if the refugees in syria cause the jordanian collapse, that is bad for us in bed for our allies -- and bad for our allies in the region. it would make the job even more impossible or improbable. we have to say, first admit that this is not a moral intervention. we only should intervene to the extent that it reflects our interests. that is what i would tell the president. what is it that we want out of syria, what is our interests, and how can we pursue it and we --d to do it in a way that is and we ought to do it in a way that is achievable. >> we are out of time and i would l

chaos al qaida reportedly announces plans to create its own state in syria using land captured by the opposition and seizing its money and weapons to. and there's money to be made by getting britain out of the e.u. a report coming up on how one think tank plans of robot reward head of the proposed referendum. are going to be just joy this is kevin owen here tonight is to say just past eight pm now on our top story this russian anti corruption blogger alexina valmy has been handed five years in jail for embezzling hundreds of thousands of dollars from his state enterprise he was immediately arrested after the verdict and led from the dock in handcuffs you go piskun office in central moscow with reaction to the ruling no hi there we go what's going on where you are i can see the crowds are gathered what what is the state of play down there right now. where we're at miners a square right now this is one of the busiest places in the central moscow traffic wise this is the peak of the evening rush hour right now with heavy traffic on. the street. mine isn't a square itself was previously c

no >> i have a follow-up on syria. in washington is that assad is within grade if you look at the situation -- is winning. at the situation, it looks like he is making progress on the ground. how do you see it going to a process in geneva to have conditions that will undermine his authoritarian government? is, there hastion been no resolution. 100,000 people have been killed. [indiscernible] when i briefed the security council in november, people were extremely critical of me because i refuse to say that the opposition was winning and the regime was in its last few days. most people in november of last year were convinced that the regime had lost, and that the opposition was winning, and that it was a question of months, perhaps weeks. i think that was not correct. now you have a lot of people who say that the government is winning. the regime is winning. the regime is doing much better than it did in november of last year, but it is true, they are making progress. in situations like this, making progress in winning ar

now we're looking at syria. i want out specifically what you see as a role of the government in the middle east? is there a different way we can approach the middle east instead of going in there and bombing and people dying and we have to look at rebuilding with the waste, fraud, and abuse? the question is if you could give us a scenario of how money is given to this agency and how it is tracked so we do not get into this again? i think you will be involved in somewhere in the future and i would not like to see that. i think the men and women need to stay here and make america strong. >> you asking the question if we could provide stability in the middle east. i think it is safe to say that it is beyond our means to provide stability in each and every country in the middle east. >> i agree. >> we will bankrupt ourselves if we try. we can promote stability and we can also is specific countries at specific times make a specific difference was that we have to be careful before we go in. we need to have excellent i

we call on syria to allow the u.n. unfettered access to investigate incidents of chemical weapons use in syria. those responsible for any attacks should be held to account. we have passed evidence of the use of sarah and asked in syria. confirmednfirmed -- attacks in homs. have three objectives. to promote a political solution in syria, to help save lives, and to protect the national security of the united kingdom. first, political transition remains the best hope of ending the violence. i attended meetings of the core group of the friends of syria on the 22nd of may and on the 22nd of june could we agreed to increase practical support to the opposition and to channel that support for the national coalition. we all want a political solution, but that will not be possible if the legitimate opposition can be obliterated. on the 17th of june, the g8 including russia reaffirm the call for a second conference in geneva leading to the creation of a transitional governing body with full executive powers. the national coalitio

washing the other an r t source says israel used a turkish military base to carry out an air strike on syria allegations that have been denied. reports emerge that germany's intelligence service. the n.s.a. and its surveillance. program. and broadcasting live from our studios in moscow this is our recapping the week's top stories with the weekly. thousands have been gathering all week in cities across america to protest against the equivalent of george zimmerman this after a jury found him not guilty of murder in the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager trayvon martin the ruling set off a nationwide debate on racial hatred from washington artie's going to has the story . we've seen protests in dozens of cities in the u.s. throughout the week following the verdict in the george zimmerman case people took to the streets demonstrating at courthouses and police stations throughout the country demanding justice for trayvon martin the seventeen year old black man who was shot dead by a neighborhood watch volunteer dozens of people were arrested most of the arrests were made on charges of a

america and europe may be squarely behind syria's rebels but large numbers of high caliber u.s. and european weapons are circulating among the other side internet images of shiite militia men fighting alongside president assad's troops with western arms have emerged feeling concerned that washington won't be able to control where its weapons and up is r t is going to reports. weapons don't discriminate us made arms are now showing up in the hands of iranian backed militias fighting in syria analyst philip smyth points to photos with hezbollah fighters coating us made m. sixteen s and m. force fitted with laser and holographic sights as well as an two or three grenade launchers how do they go in there and if there's a will there's a way and if you want to get let's say and i'm two or three grenade launcher on an m. four car being we'll find a way to get it so long as you have the right amount of money and the right amount of for connections it's not clear whether the weapons were captured stolen or bought on the black market this weapon might be. in the hands of hezbollah from. m

and millions of refugees in and around syria. opposition forces have lost ground over the past six months and some have wondered whether lethal support may be too great in come... too late in coming. even so, the "washington post" reported today that the house and senate intelligence committee last week approved obama administration plans to ship weapons to the rebels through the c.i.a. according to reports, those arms could get to syrian rebels in the next few weeks. for more on possible u.s. military intervention in syria, i'm joined by jeffrey white, a former senior analyst at the defense intelligence agency, now at the washington institute for near east policy. and john mearsheimer, a west point graduate and former air force officer, now a professor at the university of chicago. we thank you both, gentlemen, for being with us. jeffrey white, to you first. do you get a sense from reading this letter sent by general dempsey of what the obama administration is likely to do? >> i think we're going to see a small-scale commitment

also ahead nothing on the table for syria america's top general reveals that he's presented options for a military intervention to the white house and the president is considering whether to use the. lose money to be made by getting britain out of the e.u. we've got a report coming up on how one think tank plans a road map reward ahead of a proposed referendum. rather good evening for just joining us is kevin owen here live with. the saving of moscow and i'll top story military judges refused to drop the most serious charge facing whistleblower bradley manning that of aiding the enemy found guilty the former private accused of leaking classified information to wiki leaks could face life in jail without parole let's cross to well he was at today's hearing how their lives you can hear it's a big blow here isn't it for a defense team. that is right today the judge did not dismiss that charge the charge of aiding the enemy it is the most serious charge in the private first class face says so that means he still faces the possibility. of life without parole now the court took a look at the t

crosby about syria? >> yeah, i think you're way off the substance of the matter with the question of that kind. mr. roy. he certainly i've not discussed this with mr. crosby ever. in any way. we plan to discuss about defeating the labor party in the next general election. we have not discussed syria policy. with him that doesn't feature in that. this is part of our foreign policy, not our election strategy. and our policy on this is made by ministers in the national security council or in other ministerial meetings, all of which are monitored and recorded for the future. even if it's just me and prime minister discussing it together, it is probably minuted a departure from the practice of the previous administration. >> mr. crosby company, what for the -- for six months and lobbied the media? do not see any sort of correlatn of worry between crosby his company setting a national council and actual money has not been given to syria? >> well, no, is the blunt answer. first of all, i'm i'm not aware of anyu