i think we've learned from the mistake in afghanistan and pakistan. obviously very different geopolitical strategic consideration. but part of our difficulty in afghanistan for so long as the enemy was running across a very porous border where we couldn't touch them or did in limited sense with drones. if we learn that lesson in iraq and syria, we'll apply similar pressure in syria. that's the heartç of isis. where they train, their headquarters elements. a lot of it is in northern syria, they projected more recently into iraq as they've tried to expand their orbit. frankly, they don't want to be confined to iraq and syria. they want to go to jordan, leban lebanon, kuwait. this administration slowly is coming to the realization that they can't sit on the sidelines. we can't lead from behind. this is an enmany i that has to be confronted. our military leaders get it. we'll see how long it takes for the president and white house to fundamentally understand that. >> better to acknowledge it before an attack than after. pete, thank you so much. >> absol

>> i mean just take the case of pakistan. i'm sure manyiewers have no idea that the pakistani army has launched a major offensive in the last 60 weeks or so in north waziristan. they have displaced more than a half a million people which is more than the number of displaced people in gaza. 1500 civilians are believed to be dead. pakistani army calls it antiterrorist operation. they found terrorist tunnels. sound familiar, right? found munitions factories used by terrorists. yet the world effectively not only slugs its shoulders but doesn't even know about this. similar things happening in terms of boko haram. arthel: tell m me why you beliee this is the case, bret. >> quite frankly because it happens to be the jewish state on one side of the conflict and seems to be incrediblep sometimes for anti-semetic reasons to condemn military operations while the world is completely indifferent to muslims in some other countries. arthel: referring to killing of other muslims by muslims you're saying. >> last week, 2,000 persons, they we

in pakistan. there is a precedence in this administration to going across the border and i don't see why we are not crossing the border in syria and making the strikes that need to be made and destabilize isis and make them focus on containing them. >> and lieutenant colonel bill cowan, thank you. >> thanks, jon as always. >> we want to hear from you. >> do you think that america should expand air strikes and target it in syria our live chat is up and running. and click on america's asking and get in on the conversation. >> we are expecting an update on the earthquake recovery efforts taking place in california. as we head to the news briefing. we'll see where adam housely is standing by. we were downtown and going over where the injuries were. and this is the wine you normally see if the store. and go inside and see what they are dealing with now. it is a game of pick up sticks with barrels. these are barrel upon barrel piled on each other. and inside of these barrels is 25 cases of wine and they

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in pakistan. we lost our own danny pearl in pakistan 12 years ago. these are long ongoing conflicts and they are dangerous to cover. and these reporters have been very courageous in bringing out the story of what is going on in these regions. and it is a very dynamic story right now in iraq and a very sad chapter tonight. >> the message in short and without giving specifics to these people, their message is if if you keep bombing in iraq this is going to happen to more people. but you have to wonder, and i think many are tonight, if the reality is that what the united states is doing at least for this moment and at least in that place is working, and that isis is trying to make it stop. >> i think that there is probably some truth to that. that appears to be reflected in the language of their statement that came out with the videotape of mr. foley. that there is consideration tonight -- that what the militants refer to as the u.s. bombing strikes have been very effective against them. witness the fact that the mosul dam was taken back from the milita

iran, pakistan, syria, radical islam is a jihad against christianity and anyone who doesn't worship the way they do. there's a common denominator, they're islamic, they're radical, they're extremists and purely intall rantinoleranintol. check out this video who says they will not stop until they raise the flag of mohammed in the white house. really? our white house? i've been pushing back on getting involved in conflicts that aren't ours. this persecution of christians and the new cry of we will not stop until we raise the flag of mohammed at the white house changes everything. you want a holy war? we'll give you one. it just may be time to unleash hell on radical islam. don't worry, radical jihadists, your 72 virgins await. >>> i don't think we're going to solve this problem in weeks, if that's what you mean. i think this is going to take some time. >> hello, everybody. president obama says the fight against isis won't end any time soon. u.s. military forces continue with air strikes against the terror group and humanitarian aid is being delivered by -- to thousands of refugees. >>> no

we lost our own danny pearl in pakistan 12 years ago. these are long, ongoing conflicts they're dangerous to cover. and these reporters have been courageous in bringing out the story of what is going on in these regions and it's a very dynamic story now in iraq. and a very sad chapter tonight. >> the message in short, without giving specifics is if you keep bombing in iraq this, is going to happen to more people. you have to wonder if reality is that what the united states is doing for this moment in that place is working, and that isis is try toing make it stop. >> i think there is a probably a truth to that. there is consideration tonight in our writing that what the militants refer to as the u.s. bombing strikes have been very effective against them. the fact mosul dam was taken back from the militants, that a city was saved from what looked look militants moving into the area. the pentagon is wondering if they should do the same sort of strike in the anvar provence. who know what's the best thing to do is. if they're note stopping yo

. >> why not look at pakistan and the problems we had with pakistan for the better part of a decade. we somehow, through these rose-colored glasses with blinders on, are saying that syria is one thing and iraq is another. they're the same thing to this islamic world. >> absolutely. >> they don't even exist anymore. >> you have lebanon. so it's a regional problem. 15,000 fighters. they declared it a country for crying out loud. this issue deserves a strategy and a regional strategy of containment and then slowly squeezing isis until the no longer represent a threat. >> part or our start is to support the kurds, the peshmerga in the north, very good fighters and very good friends of the united states for a long time. that said, we armed the iraqi troops. they dropped our weapons, and now they're in control of the people who are talking town the peshmerga. what if they break down the peshmerga and take the weapons and use them on us. >> i don't think they. >> ithink they would take down an iraqi army we spent a trillion dollars in ten years and thousands of treasured lives trying to tra

we should take the military bases,b and we secure the borders in pakistan and afghanistan, and we should do the same in our own country. we should put the bases there and let the guys patrol the borders and sleep in their own country in peace. >> and it is not that they are just so sophisticated, but the whole border crisis going on and the border patrol is stretched. sasha, does it mean that the crisis could really allow the crisis to come in? should we secure the borders? >> well, absolutely. with the crisis we have right now, it goes to show where we have gotten in terms of the government not being able to function, because we didn't have emergency funding past, to be used while congress was out on recess. the president asked for funding and the house turned it down, but the bill they voted for the senate has already left. so, you know, it makes no sense how our government is functioning right now. and we have to release these funds so that you can address these issues. >> well, there have been funds -- and this has been going on for a long, long time, but we are now reaching a tippin

time for the saudis and pakistan theis and indian and qatar and turkey and ea e to put up or shut up. americans ought to make it clear, we'll fight isis all that we have, but not shed the blood of one more american woman or man when those near the fight will not stand. we'll stand with israel and other allies that are fighting for their lives. we are done dying for countries whose muslim leaders are too timid. if the saudis not fight for themselves. we'll bid them good luck and will stand shoulder to shoulder with nations that top feral hogs called isis, hamas, al-qaeda and hesbollah and the muslim brotherhood. we can't believe that what is happening in israel or syria doesn't touch us. that is a dangerous policy. if these radical groups take israel and iraq and the entire middle east, they will not say that's it. that's all we wanted. because they want us. and if we are blind to see it and too busy to play golf to see it, we'll pay for it with the blood of our children and grandchildren. >> on thursday, secretary of defense chuck hagel said isis wealth and military tactics make the t

obama had no problems in pakistan going after al qaeda there. he, himself, has an issue with iraq. and it's really all about him. it's a very -- he didn't want to go into syria or iraq, because he didn't want to do what george bush did. because as he said in his speech, i was elected to end the war in iraq, but it's a very juvenile behavior as commander in chief. >> is it possible the president has a real problem using american military power? >> i think that's part of it. >> we would love him to do that. >> that's obviously a part of it. but he has used it elsewhere. he used it even in lick yeah. but he has an iraq issue, because that, for him, is back to 2007 how out of nowhere he got to the white house, stunning himself, i'm sure. but americans, what's really fascinating now is americans are said to be, you know, tired of war, but they're also, as the polls show, they're also very tired of a feckless commander in chief. and they're very worried about the world going up in flames >> you hear it among top democrats, jim feinberg was quoted in the times, just kind of aghast and bee

obama had no problems in pakistan going after al qaeda there. he himself has an issue with iraq, and it's really all about him it's a very -- presidency. he didn't want to go into syria or iraq because he didn't want to do what george bush did. as he said in his speech, i was elected to end the war in iraq. it's a very juvenile behavior as commander in chief. >> is it possible that the president has a real problem using american military power? >> i think that's part of it. >> he's reluck tants to do that. >> i think that's obviously part of it. but he has used it elsewhere. he used it even in libya very reluctantly. i think he has an iraq issue because that for him is back to 2007 how out of nowhere he got to the white house, stunning himself i'm sure. but americans, what's really fascinating, are said to be tired of war. but they're also, as polls show, very tired of effectless commander in chief and very worried about the world going up in flames. >> you even hear it among top democrats, jim steinberg, deputy secretary of state in obama in hi

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against al qaeda in the tribal areas of pakistan and yemen could have a debilitating effect on the group adding it would struggle to hold ground from the attacks. >> isis is iraqi christians one week to convert, pay tax or die. some of those who managed to escape are sharing their stories. they were told to convert to islam or face the sword. it means the end of christianity in a part of the faith that has been there from the beginning. >> it is a crime against humanity. isis made it tleer what they want to do. they want to eradicate everybody who doesn't march to the beat of their drum. >> thousands fleed since isis took over in june. >> now to a fox business alert. american banks targeted by cyber terrorists. cheryl casone of the fox business network is here with what we need to know. >> good morning ainsley. the fbi is investigating a sophisticated hacking attack jp morgan chase and at least four other u.s. banks. they tell the new york times the hackers were able to fill gigabytes of data including checking account information. they are behind the cyber attacks and another unnamed ba

you recall that daniel pearl was beheaded by his al-qaeda kidnappers in pakistan. his cantors released a videotape of his execution. in may 2004, nick berg was beheaded in iraq by an islamic extremist that posted the video on line. and a extremist group in saudi arabia bewoulded paul m. johnson junior. and a britter solder was murdered in the streets of london by two islamic fanatics as he left his barracks. >> and former attorney generally sullivan won the alaska gop primary. he will take on mark begich in november. here's the latest with this. >> dan? >> hey, molly. this is a big victory for the republican establishment that got behind dan sullivan and figured he was the best chance of flipping the all important u.s. september seat. karl rove and his pack threw a million dollars over the race and attacking begich and this is sullivan's first run for officers and he was tested. joe miller had a strong second place finish. and getting miller's enthusiastic supporters will be key for sullivan. he will have to tie begich to president obama who is unpopular in alaska.

they have been detained since 2012 when they were arrested in pakistan. it could be seen as a trial run for yemen sus specs being held at guantanamo bay prison in cuba. >>> a five day shooting rampage leaving four people dead. now calling alexander hernandez a serial killer. he's behind bars charged with one murder right now. he could be responsible for at least 7 shootings that began a week ago. the most recent a sunday morning shooting targeting a family as they were heading to church. less than an hour later two more victims were shot. hernandez is set to be arraigned again today. the so-called craig's list killer who claimed she murdered 22 people as part of a satanic cult just dodged the death penalty. they pled guilty to stabbing and strangling a man in pennsylvania after he responded to their on-line ad. they both face life behind bars. >> new fallout from the deadly shooting of unarmed teen michael brown in missouri. a group of activists calling for government to oversee local law enforcement. members of the black caucus want a police czar to help

need to form a coalition, especially from islamic countries and the islamic world, like turkey, egypt, pakistan. they have huge armies, organized armies. and they can do something to take back and fight isis. way we're going to this point be able to defeat isis. >> always good to talk to you. >> thank you. >> all right, coming up, we're life on the scene in ferguson, missouri. marianna rafferty. now back to "justice with judge jeannine." >>> a grand jury now em panelled to hear evidence and weigh possible chaj against a ferguson police officer who shot 18-year-old michael brown. mike tobin is in ferguson with the latest. how have things gone today? >> well, it was pretty hot throughout the day so that kept streets pretty empty. but now the sun is down and a big pack of protesters marching by us. there was a march earlier in the day that was pretty interesting. it had about 200 people and it was the naacp youth march. so you had a lot of young people out there, but carrying the naacp banner were the heads of the different police agencies. you had captain ron johnson who's become so well known th

help us confirm that bin laden was there, but when it came out it lead to the death of aid workers in pakistan and made pakistanis less likely to get vaccines. i have a problem with tieing it into a health related problem. i don't think they should have done that. in principal, yeah. if you are trying to deal with a foreign government that should go, have i have no problem. >> how would anyone trust these aid workers again? who is in these countries will go to an hiv workshop or something like that for risk of, i don't know, being tattled on? >> this is truly a problematic issue. i'm surprised you didn't bring up your book. >> no, but i will be suing you. >> carly, at this point you can offer an insight or you can just say i agree with ambassador bolten. >> i agree with ambassador bolten on this topic with whatever he was going to say. >> and it is a bizarre one. but if gives me an excuse to talk about people who keep talking about cuban cigars. the problem i have with cuba are the guys that have to tell you they have a cuban cigar. >> have you ever had a cuban? i am telling you there is nothi

we bomb them the use of drones or whatever means when they are in pakistan or yemen and i really don't see what the argument is against bombing them whenever we see them out in the open. obviously this is a bigger problem we have fess of them surface to air missiles. they don't know how to fly them but there is really no reason not to bomb them. if al qaeda took over an air base and they took over surface to air missiles. you better believe the president would bomb them. i don't see why he is sitting on his hands right now waiting for some grand strategy to develop before we take action. >> somebody should have sent him perhaps, jessica, david cammeron talking points. nailed it. >> differences very stark. had you president obama coming out yesterday afternoon and it seemed like he was ready to announce something big. he was about to go in with the national security team and meet and really more questions and more cleanup for the white house came out of that press conference than answers did. you have the white house trying to clean up this and saying that there is no plan, saying yes,

pakistan, afghanistan, those kind of countries. now, the australian navy actually physically intercepts them. is that what they do? >> that's right, bill. the conservative government basically came in and said we are going to determine who comes into this country and circumstances under which they come. they got the military to sort it out. turning back the boats, which include towing back the boats. but most of all our prime minister got out, bill, and said if you come to australia the wrong way, if you come to australia illegally, you will never get to stay, you will never get to live in australia, you you will never get to be? australia. >> once you get in if you didn't get in legally you will deported no matter what your circumstances? >> basically when the conservative government got in because we had such a a terrible mess, they couldn't wave the magic wand and stop the boats immediately, for the first few months some boats kept coming and the people that arrived were told you have come to australia illegally. therefore, we d

indefinitely to strike terrorists if and when a pop-up their head in places like the tribal areas, pakistan or eastern afghanistan. might move back to some of the areas and still present in some parts of those areas as well so i am not saying we should do any long-term favors forever indefinitely to the afghan, they need our help a little bit longer. more to do with striking al qaeda and similar terrorist organizations which i agree are serious threats to make serious threats and we cannot let down our guard. jenna: is that the right way to go in afghanistan? >> michael and ird are friends but we have a little bit of a difference of degree. we need to be extremely cautious particularly in iraq. we need to let that war play itself out because isis is a well-organized, a fighting force carrying across northern iraq and syria, they have started a war in the last couple of days in lebanon. afghanistan, i have no problem with small and long-term counterterrorist president of special forces and intelligence gatherers in afghanistan, i think michael is right here, he is wrong increasing our presen

need to form a coalition, especially from islamic countries and the islamic world, like turkey, egypt, pakistan. they have huge armies, organized armies. and they can do something to take back and fight isis. a world coalition at this point is the only way we're going to be able to defeat isis. >> always good to talk to you. >> thank you. >> all right, coming up, we're life on the scene in ferguson, missouri. [ male announcer ] if you had a dollar for every dollar car insurance companies say they'll save you by switching, you'd have, like, a ton of dollars. but how are they saving you those dollars? a lot of companies might answer "um" or "no comment." then there's esurance. born online, raised by technology and majors in efficiency. so whatever they save, you save. hassle, time, paperwork, hair-tearing out, and, yes, especially dollars. esurance. insurance for the modern world. now backed by allstate. click or call. >>> live from america's news headquarters, bombings killing dozens of people in iraq on saturday. 41 people died when a bomb went off m the northern district of kerkuk. in baghdad

compare this to the dominant banks in zimbabwe and pakistan and argentina and russia is the pariah. >>> and compare that to valuations in the u.s., trading 17 times earnings or something for the s&p 500. >> so it might just be that mohamed el erian, whom you interviewed earlier, is correct, and one ought to pay no heed to these values, because the world is such a dodgy place. but the world is -- it's a world of sin and sorrow, always. there is always risk. but here is an outlying value proposition. my view is this too will pass. >> does it concern you that the u.s. market has not been impacted very much by what's happening in iraq, by what's happening in russia? gaza? does that surprise you? >> well, i think that we are in unique territory in america in that this is the first time we have had low interest rates and both a rhetorical and financial campaign by the central authorities to lift up or levitate financial asset values. we have had low interest rates before, of course. but never before have we had a central bank that is actually pushing for higher stock prices, along with this

efforts in afghanistan and went after al qaeda's leadership in the tribal regions and afghanistan and pakistan, driving the taliban out of its strongholds and training afghan forces which are now in the lead for their own security. just four months we will complete our combat mission in afghanistan and america's longest war will come to a responsible end. and we honor every american who served to make this progress possible. [applause] every single one, especially the more than 2200 american patriots who made the ultimate sacrifice in afghanistan, to keep us safe. and now as afghans continue to work towards the first democratic transfer of power in history, afghan leaders mead to make the hard compromises necessary to give the afghan people a future of security and progress and as we go forward we'll continue to partner with afghans so their country can never again be used to launch attacks against the united states. [applause] now as i have always made clear, the blows we've struck against al qaeda's leadership don't mean the end to the terrorist threat. al qaeda affiliates still target our h

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he thought that al qaeda basically was a criminal gang hoyled up in the frontier areas of pakistan. you kill their leaders and that is the end. unfortunately that is not true. it is worldwide idealogical movement that has real staying power. he also couldn't admit to himself that his policy of passivity and retreat in syria and iraq had created predicate for this catastrophe. jon: so why this sudden turn around, ab? why is the defense secretary saying that this is an imminent threat to the united states? >> well, what you heard from our top two military officials yesterday who i don't think were being unis a borednant and sent out by the commander-in-chief to begin a campaign to convince the public was that isis is unlike anything we've ever seen. those are secretary hagel's words. more sophisticated, better funded, more easily able to attract and radicalize westerners. more threatening than anything we've ever seen. and so what they were doing was, preparing i think, the public for a change in strategy, even though they said that we wouldn't be attacking isis inside of syria. they

i think it is a futile effort, the minute usama bin laden terrorists slip through the borders of pakistan we should have said if you continue to harbor terrorists, we will just obliterate you, but until then, note democracy because that god is not suited for democracy like iraq. >> how do politicians navigate this? they repeatedly say we want out, they don't even want these 9800 soldiers cap there. it is tough for a politician to advocate for more involvement or consistent involvement when people are saying no, we don't want this. >> the president's foreign policy numbers may be bad but what candidate wants to talk about staying in afghanistan? >> i have been told his senior military officials telling fox news a flight because we are talking about this with remains of major general greene has now departed. we don't have details on this flight or any potential stops along the way, but another point in the coverage of the high-ranking official in a war zone, no space remains. >> what it is to bring in an excerpt on foxnews.com because it was very interesting giving color based on your exper

people coming across the border in the hundreds from egypt, somalia, yemen and our dear friends in pakistan. this is darby reporting that 71 people from the countries in africa where the ebola virus is loose, that is the new epidemic, 71 people from those countries have been detained at the border. the only question is how many weren't detained? how many people with the ebola virus, which is no cure and no vaccine are walking around america today precisely because the obama administration has been so lax on border security? jon: ha about that, alan? >> here is another piece that the media has been lax in reporting, the president has sent back 1.9, almost two million people here undocumented and why isn't that getting the kind of coverage it should get? because this president has a better record than any previous president in terms of stopping the undocumented from onlying in and getting the undocumented out of the country. whether or not you agree with those policies, that's what he's done and that gets very little attention. jon: but many say it was the president's authorization of childre

fighting the tally back -- taliban and al qaeda, american jets have killed many, many civilians in pakistan, afghanistan, and iraq. in fact maybe thousands of civilians, men, women and children, have died at a result of attacks against the terrorists. the president himself, when he was asked this year in an interview in ""new yorker magazine"" with regard to civilian casualties, america defending itself, said the following. he wrestles with civilian casualties about the president said that it was, and i quote, his solemn duty and responsibility to keep the american people safe. that is my most important obligation as president and commander in chief. it's good for america but not for the people of israel? not for prime minister netanyahu, to defend the people of israel? the people of israel want peace. that's all. the want the missiles heading towardsle 80% of israel strapped. there has to be one -- >> what does is mean when the prime minister said, don't second-guess me again. what was he saying? >> i think there's frustration at america, that the president of the united states -- . >> do

. >> drones and syria and yemens drones in somalia and pakistan have taken out terrorist leaders. how come we can't get these days? what happened today? they took a syrian airfield that could give them access to war planes and helicopters. come on, they not a country and they could have war planes and helicopters. >> that is occurring across the border between iraq and syria. the airfield was not only had aircraft on it but it was a storage area for ground combat vehicles. for the syrians to lose control of that, it is prettying do -- prettying do gone -- pretty dog gone important. there are 20,000 fighters that are foreign and they are in iraq adapting to what we have been doing with our limited application of air power. they are breaking into smaller units where they will be more difficult to target. before we get too much further into this and taking the guys to school and teaching them what we can do we have to come up with an overall comprehensive strategy with the politics and the economics and the military aspect and deal with this in a comprehensive nature. >> it seeps we

action is necessary to protect our people and president obama has shown he'll do that whether it's in pakistan, with the bin laden operation, in yemen, in somalia, we will take direct action against terrorists who threaten the united states. even as we develop long-term solutions that empower partners on the ground. with respect to legal matters, i wouldn't want to prejudge an action that we haven't taken. i would say that the actions we're taking in iraq are at the invitation of the iraqi government and consistent with the president's constitutional authority. the action that we took to try to rescue hostages in syria was entirely legal of course because we were seeking to save americans from eminent danger and that is at the core of justification for military action. i think that any additional actions that we take, we would want to consult with congress. >> things that you have drawn about iraq was that you were invited in is what you just mentioned. syria that wouldn't be the case. isn't there a distinction and wouldn't you have to -- >> i don't want to speak hypothetically about an action

you got these protests now in pakistan which are potentially hugely problematic. you got problems in afghanistan. you can almost literally go to 40 countries and needs the president's attention in between drives and i think that's the real problem here. >> what about tissue of fundraisers? does that factor in? it's part of what the head of the party does. but he's done that this week as well. >> i think that's part of the optics problem too. not that he's just on the golf course or riding a bike he's at these fundraisers. 70 so far this year. that contributes to it. it will be interesting to see what he actually does when he comes back because i suspect they are looking for an opportunity to take a victory lap given everything you've pointed out, and my suspicion is if they consider maliki's stepping down in iraq a very big win for them, that's been really key to their policy in iraq, i suspect there will be something to do possibly meeting the new prime minister, going, there something that enables him to say he's actually on top of his game on foreign policy. >>

islamic state goes across that like others went across pakistan and afghanistan we're working with a blind fold >> you're right, shep but have you to look at facts as they are. then, start dealing with them, right? how do you take territory away from isis? partner with kurds. that is what we're doing now. it's the right thing to do. providing air support, making sure infrastructure is protected and giving the population a reason to believe nonmilitant population a reason to believe if they side with nonjihadists they're going to come out on this. at some point you're going to have to accept the sunni-shia divide. what you have to decide is look at syria and say assad versus isis. which are we with going to be with? >> mike, thanks, appreciate it. >> thanks, jim, >> ferguson, missouri tonight. protestors hit the streets. temperatures in the 90s heat warnings for the rest of the week. thunder clouds started to drop rain on demonstrators cleaning the streets, perhaps cooling temperatures but what about attitudes? we have team fox coverage, next. late night live from the fox news channel

analysts say isis is winning the social media war and they're putting the leader of al qaeda in pakistan al zawahiri under pressure. >> now both have to be at the top of their game in order to gain the financial support, the recruiting and what -- the other items that they need to continue the jihad. i think the competition, just like any marketplace, will be good in the long run for the global jihad. >> it is worth noting that the british rapper really has what amounts to a terrorist pedigree. his father was extradited to this country about two years ago for terrorism charges for his alleged role if what's considered one of the seminole plots before 9/11 which was the east africa embassy bombings in 1998. >> we know you are on it, thank you so of. >>> we're learning more about james foley's last words to his family. the 40-year-old recited a lengthy message to a fellow hostage who mem morized it, the relaid it to his parents. "i feel you all especially when i pray. i pray for you to stay strong and to believe." foally went on to say, "grammy, please take your medicine, take walks and ke

but a bunch of guys wearing pajamas pulling up logs is not an existential threat like afghanistan and pakistan are. the only threat is if they can get people back into the united states and perform acts of terror. that's why you deny visas in totality from persons from this area. we have to say time out, stop, hold the game, we have to make sure the allies, british, french, germans, make sure the people we allow to travel back and forth to the u.s., make sure they're doing a better job of screening so they don't unwittingly allow bad guys to come over here from their country. >> we are talking about some big numbers. and just quickly before we go, put the pictures on the board of the two americans who were arrested who were trying to go over there to fight for isis. the congressman mentioned a woman, we have her picture as well. the threat is wide and it doesn't always look like you think it's going to look. >>> coming up, how a possible new clue could help investigators determine the events that led up to the 18-year-old's death. >>> the federal government spending close to a million dollars

that by defining the threat and the enemy as al qaeda central, as if the enemy is a club that lives in pakistan or parts of afghanistan and that's it. so whenever you had an explosion of islamic radicalism in mali or libya or elsewhere, it was considered something else, as he said, a jayvee team. this is a willful attempt to while away the war. now with isis, the pretence to pretend or otherwise can no longer exist. he knows the threat there and what's happening is he isn't on board. this is his advisers in the military trying to prepare him for a decision he has not yet made but is going to have to make. >> here's how the pentagon describes the disparity between their assessment of this terrorist army now and what the president said back in january. >> this is august. you're talking about comments that were made in january. isil -- and wive been watching this for months. they have grown in capability. i said it at the podium as have others. that i have gro they have grown in capability with speed. >> george, there's a lot of blame to go around here about who didn't talk about this. i mean you

at the most they wanted to run afghanistan, maybe pakistan in their own 14th seasontureleyy kind of way. al qaeda we fought them but what are they trying to do? terrorist acts. but they are not looking to have a bigger run the world agenda. isis does. it's the on one of these territories that we fought that wants to control territory. they want to be a nation state. they are calling themselves the caliphate, the nation state. they have controlled large parts of syria and iraq. they want to spread through the entire region. they have said jordan and lebanon are next. they want all the resources of a wealthy nation state, oil, military and they want to take over the world and they will kill anyone in their way. they will behead christian priests and mongs. christians, jews and their own fellow muslims. eric: there are reports of beheading young children and putting their heads on sticks in parks. what's also chilling the leader of the group, we had him in custody in 2004. he's in custody and what does he say to us reportedly? "i'll see if you new york." that a direct threat from the head

pakistan, afghanistan, those kind of countries. now, the australian navy actually physically intercepts them. is that what they do? >> that's right, bill. the conservative government basically came in and said we are going to determine who comes into this country and circumstances under which they come. they got the military to sort it out. turning back the boats, which include towing back the boats. but most of all our prime minister got out, bill, and said if you come to australia the wrong way, if you come to australia illegally, you will never get to stay, you will never get to live in australia, you you will never get to be? australia. >> once you get in if you didn't get in legally you will deported no matter what your circumstances? >> basically when the conservative government got in because we had such a a terrible mess, they couldn't wave the magic wand and stop the boats immediately, for the first few months some boats kept coming and the people that arrived were told you have come to australia illegally. therefore, we d

we have seen that with other terrorists in pakistan and u.s. citizens, radicalized in u.s. prisons who have gong over to do u.s. training in yemen terror camps. this is a problem we have to have an honest conversation about it and one of the few networks is actually doing this. >> this is one area where an honest conversation will help, but some people don't want to have it. >>> just some quick housekeeping here, we want to remind you to check out bill o'reilly dhovm, it's actually named after bill o'reilly. the american documents sale will soon end, you can get replicas on parchment suitable for framing. i believe that's bill o'reilly's birth certificate. all the money bill o'reilly gets goes to charity. >>> a powerful pundit says the obama administration has now entered full meltdown mode. subtle perhaps, that pundit will be here to make his case. right back with it. ght's sleep. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. ocuvite. help prote

united states accidentally -- i stress accidentally -- hurt and killed civilians in afghanistan and pakistan, of course, americans thought of that as a strategy but the state of israel did not condemn it. we understood that fighting terror is very complex and sometimes innocent people get hurt. >> when you were ambassador in 2013, john kerr where was walking on peace talks and israel listened into the conversations of secretary kerry when he was working on that. were you aware? >> that's a claim made by one german paper today. i know nothing about that and it seems highly unlikely. >> is that an -- has there been an official denial, and if not, why not? >> i would deny it from the time i was ambassador, we weren't listening on anything. >> sir, nice to see you, thank you. >> thank you, shep. >> another american mission mary set with ebola set to nye back to the united states tomorrow. fors here already trying to save her partner's life. and overseas, health workers are struggling to contain an outbreak of one of the world's deadliest diseases. are they getting close to figuring out oh to sto

and so the frustrating thing to many of us, those of us who had been out in the world in pakistan, central asia, turkey, saw these threats coming. and the bad guys weren't trying to hide it. in clinton's washington there was no interest -- i mean, it was like obama in the sense that he cared far more for his personal popularity with his base than about america's security. so bubba was obama before obama. >> it's relevant to today in a lot of different ways. we see the secretary of state, we see the president pressuring israel to have a cease-fire, which by the way has just happened for 72 hours. they're pressuring them to have a cease-fire, but if i had 3,000 rockets fired into america, i would want to defeat and prabre up the infrastructure and find the tunnels and rockets they were using to attack america's towns and people. there seems to be a missing which i am here. a lack of understanding to radical islam even to this very day. >> there certainly is. it's just disgraceful. as many have observed, many who are not part of this administration, that in fact when you pander as this admini