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session. we have a visiting speaker, neil eggleston, who was the white house counsel who will be with us. i'm going to do a very brief introduction. we're not going to break for just a quick shift of seats were neil will come and join us and talk to us forgive us. will have a few questions and wrapup of the session. as i mentioned, neil was the white house counsel, previously served as associate counsel in the clinton administration. also is assistant attorney in the southern district on your end formally a law partner. so we are very pleased to have a neil eggleston with us. again, this was the president's commission on elections. the president came up and appointed his commission and happy to have your in love to hear from you. neil: so thank you very much and thanks to bob and ben as well, into the bipartisan policy center for this. i always -- whenever i see bob i think to myself that it's clear that i wouldn't be white house counsel without bob's support. and there are many days i thank them for that and many days i curse him for that. [laughter] so it's great to be here and