can't. the rules that caused him to recuse himself from the russia investigation would also make him have to recuse himself from anything having to do with hillary clinton because of his involvement in the trump campaign. >> rose: we turn to jeremy grantham, chief strategist at g.m.o. we talk about controversial views on the future of capitalism. >> i think the biggest risk to american society is the drift to more corporate power in politics and through monopolies and so on, unless -- and less to the workers and the destruction of the unions and the income inequality where we are 20t 20th out of 20 rich countries. we are the most unequal society. also, the speed with which you can move from one economic class to another. one always used to think of america as being extremely mobile. we're the stickiest, the most difficult society in the developed 20 countries -- >> rose: to go from lower class to the middle class. >> yes. >> rose: politics and economy when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multi

the whitehouse house to figure out what's the strategy with dealing with the russia probe in the midst of all that. they need to create a clear separation between the president and the governing part of the whitehouse and the russia investigation part of management control. and move down both those tracks simultaneously. that's where we're going to be for a while and that hasn't been very effective for them so far. they're going to have to figure out how to separate scandal management from governs and put some things on the board. >> rose: do either of you know, speaking of the russian probe, an answer to why the president's so resistent to this probe, other than there is something that's damaging to him, whatever it is. >> i think there is at a minimum, there's a trump style that says basically you give no quarter when you're under attack or you're under siege. so you give no ground. is that because there's something working in the shadows or because he's afraid that was not fighting everybody every step of the way is a signal of weakness. i don't think we know which of those it

to undermine the russia investigation by special counsel mueller. >> mr. simpson, i do vote to grandpa role when eligible. >> thank you. e next big storm in the pacific ocean, and i'm not making this up, will be hillary. >> the champion for the eighth time! >> so many fans tuned in to watch last night's premiere of "game of thrones" it crashed hbo's web site. >> give it up for new jersey governor christie liking a nice grab. >> bared handed and gets booed for the efforts. >> nice to see from the beach to the wall park. russia is banning -- 's consumer agency says it will investigate gidget spinners after they say the toys could be an american plot to zombie-fy young russians. >> there goes russian's reputation as count. >> glor: this weekend is a sixth month anniversary of donald trump's inauguration marked by appointment of neil gorsuch to the supreme court and many frustrations. at the top of the list the president's growing concern over the russia probes. shannon pettypiece joinings me, covers the white house for "bloomberg news." and in washington dan balz, chief correspond

in our elections and the cyberattacks that russia has been carrying out in the united states. there is a desperate hope of a foreign-policy community in the u.s., from members of congress, that the president will take this opportunity to say to putin , as president obama said, knock it off. send a strong signal trying to interfere in our elections is not acceptable. we do not know the president will go that far and say that because he has shown hesitation about making a big issue about russian interference, and the feeling of those close to the president say he fears it will undermine his presidency be really eight knowledges that russians played a role in influencing elections. collusion aside, but with fake news and tweet bots, that sort of interference could delegitimize his presidency. alison: there has been reporting that president trump has tasked the national security council with bargaining chips, something to bring to the meeting to use. but with something like that be? shannon: one could be syria. there is this desire to try and strike a deal in syria, so if you go work ou

dealings with russia. so you can imagine a situation where the family members would have quite an incentive to stop that investigation before it uncovers things that could potentially cause them tremendous problems. >> rose: it's hard, the shifting factions within the white house or what we know about them from the reporting because they're not united on s said to be opposed to theon hiring of the new communications chief. >> right. >> rose: according to the reports i've read, i mean, whereas others who you think would not necessarily even have an opinion were in favor of it. >> right. that's true. i mean, one of the -- one of the key dynamics at the moment is that steve bannon and reince priebus, the chief of staff, have become allies of convenience in a feud against jared kushner and ivanka trump. that is probably, in terms of the hottest conflicts in the white house, that's probably right up at the top, and jared and ivanka distrust reince priebus, they think he's incomp at the present time and want him out of the job. the extent to which steve bannon sees jared and i ivanka aa

! you can get it right now! >> president trump's relationship with russia are again in the news this week. the trump family often has said contradictory things about the trump organization's business ties to russia. here's what dwrump told nbc's lester holt in may. >> i built a great company, but i'm not involved with russia. i have had dealings over the years where i sold a house to a very wealthy russian many years ago. i had the miss universe pageant which i owned for quite a while. i had it in moscow a long time ago. other than that, i have nothing to do with russia. >> but back in 2008, donald trump, jr. told a real estate conference that "russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross section of a lot of our assets." and he added, "we see a lot of money pouring in from russia." as craig unger reports in this months' issue of "the new republic" the money has been pouring in for better part of three decades and some from questionable sources. story called trump's russian laundromat. welcome, craig. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. fascinating, heavily research st

disagreed with him when he proved not to be effective. but the russia scandal came along and all of a sudden, a lot of people in his inner circle and his own family are embroiled in very serious scandals. charlie: and a fight for survival. josh: a scandal that trump himself inflamed by firing james comey, the f ei director. -- the fbi director. charlie: advised by jared kushner to do that. josh: that is what my white house sources tell me. that steve bannon had warned against it. warned against firing comey. what broadband and back is that just before trump left for his foreign trip in may, attorney general jeff sessions had recused himself. rod rosenstein, the deputy attorney general, decided that they needed to impose a special counsel and chose robert mueller. a very serious man. a real threat to the president. if he's done anything wrong -- it only happened because he fired comey. i think trump awoke to the danger that the russia probe posed to him. he sent bannon back from saudi arabia to try to stand up some kind of outside legal war room to fight harder. he knew that the lawyer

tonight with a look inside russia with journalist nick schifrin and talk about his forthcoming series on the pbs "newshour" called "inside putin's russia." >> over the last 15 or so years, putin has brought relative stability to russia. anybody old enough to remember the '90s will remember the political and economic chaos of that, so that is the first step. the second step is re-creating russian traditions like the orthodox church, pre-soviet traditions like the kosics into a level of pride in shared religion and traditions, and that's tapped into a collective identity that russia's long had, and that means that the pride that russians feel, the patriotism that russians feel today, yes, there is some manipulation, there is some propaganda, there is a lot of repression, but it is also a genuine perception that putin has made the country more stable. >> glor: we continue with steven cook of the council of foreign relations and talk about the recent saudi arabian-led block aid of qatar and what it means for the middle east and the u.s. >> the qatarys are going to be isolated from the reg

from enemies. enemy number one, the u.s. they accuse the u.s. of humiliating russia are expanding nato to russian borders and supporting revolutions in former soviet states and satellites. he advocates by fighting back against the west with asymmetric war. dissidenty supporting movements. much more. >> exactly. we are supporting any kind of national, including russian. doing the same thing against us. >> nick schifrin joins me now. i please to welcome him -- i am pleased to welcome him to the program. the first part of the program is how russians see vladimir putin versus how americans see vladimir putin. russians see it as an attack on their identity. over the last 15 years, putin has brought relative stability to russia. anybody old enough to remember the 1990's will remember the economic and political chaos. that is the first step. the second step is re-creating russian traditions like the orthodox church, pre-soviet traditions, into a level of pride in shared religion and traditions. that has tapped into a collective identity that russia has long had. that means the pride russians

small region will hold? >> well, there is a deescalation in three larger regions that russia and turkey spawrnlingsed six months ago and it's holding more or less. you see the amount of suffering and killing of the syrian people has been drastically reduced since december of last year when this initiative by iran and turk ehab in place and we think it should be enlarged to include all of syria except for fighting against isis recognized by the security council organization and who cannot be a part of cease-fire. but other than that. >> rose: the united states does not want them to be part of a cease-fire either. >> i'm not saying that this is the point of convention. i'm saying that, i'm just stating defensively that we need to expand the cease-fire throughout syria. we need to allow unhindered humanitarian access to all syrians. >> rose: the united states and president trump in this case believes that russia and the united states can work together in the interest of changing syria. he said that. do you believe that iran and russia and america can work together to change syria? >> i thi

ground with russia. but it's not clear, for example, if there will be discussion at all about the 2016 presidential election. his president trump going to confront and about what the u.s. intelligence agencies have concluded? that russia intervened under the direction of putin with the exclusive game of electing trauma trump? >> what are the risks to taking a meeting like this if there are no clear goals that we know of? >> well, it's a very risky meeting. it's a meeting that trump has to have. the president of russia, it's late in the game, even in the first year of a presidency, for him to be meeting with vladimir putin. but if he goes in there without an agenda, which is what the white house sort of indicated when they confirmed that the meeting was happening, that is huge risk for him and the united states. you can bet that vladimir putin is coming in with a big agenda of his own, including wanting to see the sanctions imposed on russia for the seizure of crimea and the interference in the ukraine and meddling in the elections lifted. and he wants to seek some common .round on thos

russia over ukraine and its annexation of crimea. very important that the united states support the europeans and our own policy on this. as you know, president trump has at several points during his presidency and during the campaign intim ated he would like to lift those sanctions but putin has done nothing to warrant that. and second and i think most important for president trump is the fact that putin launched a cyberattack on the american elections in 2016. there has been absolutely no response from president trmp, no investigation by the trump administration, no pressure on the russian government, and the senate just voted two weeks ago by a 97-2 margin to put sanctions on russia, over that hacking of our election. president trump is trying to water down that bill right now. i think this is a real pob-- problem for him. if he is seen as too soft and too weak on president putin, there is going to be a problem back home in washington because republicans in the senate, not just democrats are gearing up to send russia a tough message. so that and other issues, syria as well are go

government. and the center just voted two weeks ago by a 97-2 margin to put sages on russia over that hacking of our elections. president trump is trying to water down the bill right now. i think this is a real problem for him. onhe is seen as too sfooft president putin, there will be a problem back home in washington because republicans, not just democrats are gearing up to send russia tough message. so, that an other measures -- issues, seer is going to be important for this meeting. jeff: the white house has said that the ukraine will not be discussed and there is no guarantee the cyber attack will be discussed. what will be? >> when you look at meetings like this and this is the very first meeting of the two leaders will ever have had. the primary i think focus should be establishing some kind of effective communications between them so that in the future if onre is a crisis or even monday issues, they can communicate effectively on behalf of their own two countries. ts are alwaysmi graded by other countries. in this case, americans european allies. and they will be watching

. russia relationship is under as it's been since obama. charlie: vladimir putin has said so. ian: and the entire foreign-policy establishment in the u.s. has also said so. everyone says trump is flip-flopping on china, he says they are an enemy, flip-flops on nato, all these things, yet onrushing he is the consistent. i want to find a way to work more closely. charlie: is it because he has a grand strategy or something else? ian: i was discussing this with richard haass on the council of foreign relations today. we are both a little flummoxed. you can definitely say trump likes the strawman. he likes -- strong man. he likes erdogan in turkey, he hees xi jinping in china, likes people who get things done. you definitely can say about trump that he also is very transactional, so he's willing to put his chips in to see if you can get something done and then see how they fall. that was with obama, when he first met obama in the oval office, and with xi jinping. also the fact that obama's relationship with putin was damaged in the end, so there's an opportunity. but if you put those things tog

., jared kushner, ivanka trump. if he starts moving to do business dealings in connection to russia. so you can imagine a situation where the family members would have quite an incentive to stop the investigation before it uncovers things that cause a potential problem. charlie: the shifting factions in the white house, it is really hard, because they are not united on issues that are necessarily consistent. for example, bannon was said to be opposed to the hiring of the new communications chief. according to the reports i read. whereas, others you would think would not have an opinion, were in favor of it. jonathan: that's true. i mean, one of the key dynamics at the moment is that steve bannon and reince priebus have become allies of convenience in a feud against jared kushner and ivanka trump. that is probably in terms of the hottest conflicts in the white house, that is probably right at the top. and jared and ivanka distrust reince priebus, they think he is incompetent, and they want him out of the job. to the extent which steve bannon sees them as ideological enemies, he wants to

on frustrations with the probe on the russia investigation under special counsel bob mueller, his frustrations he aired this week with jeff sessions, the attorney general. have all the republican senators into the white house after the built in the senate collapsed earlier this week. and he indicated he want something done. but getting to that goal line and theen so difficult, president has not necessarily played a constructive role in getting it to a success. he will say those kinds of things, but there has been little followthrough. i think we have to be skeptical there will be presidential followthrough. i think the senate will try to do what they can do. senator mcconnell, the majority leader, kind of reached the end of his limits earlier this week. while there will be a vote next week or effort to have a vote to put a bill on the floor, it is not clear they will even be able to succeed getting the bill on the floor. inthere has been a change strategy for the president. he was very involved with the house and house members to get their version past. it was a standoff with the

of the invitation of the government in damascus. that had it not -- iran iran and russia rushing to the assistance in iraqi kurdistan, today you would've had, instead of being forced to liberate mosul from you would've had to fight for erbir and baghdad. there responding to written we have had a consistent policy of supporting those who are fighting terrorism and extremists. in+++aid, the people who became the government of palestine. the iranians rid -- we are the ones supporting terrorism and extremism in syria. we are not involved in saudi arabia. this accusation from the crown prince of saudi arabia is trying to take the fight to iranian territory. >> that is what they have said. that you are coming after us, and that is why we must bring the fight to iran. we would rather fight in iran and saudi arabia. cannot neglect his own admission that he is trying to instigate terror inside iranian territory. they say they want to stop you from trying to be the dominant player in the region. that is their agenda. >> our region will not have a power player. i think that efforts to become a

sharif: there is a de-escalation and three larger russia, andn, turkey responded and it is holding, more or less. you see the amount of killing and suffering of the syrian people, it has been drastically reduced since december of last year when this initiative by iran, russia and turkey has been in place. we believe it should be enlarged to include all of syria. except for fighting against isis and al-nusra, who are recognized by the security council as terrorist organizations and cannot be part of the cease-fire. but, other than that -- charlie: the united states does not want them to be part of a cease-fire. mr. javad sharif: i am not saying it is a contention. i am just stating the principal, that we need to expand the cease-fire throughout syria. we need to allow unhindered humanitarian access to all syrians. charlie: the united states and president trump in this case, believe that russia and the united states can work together in the interest of changing syria. he said that. do you believe that iran and russia and america, can work together? to change syria? to stop the war and heal

jeff sessions' decision recusese himself -- himself from the russia investigation. ever since then, the president has been furious behind the scenes because he believes that sessions' recusal has left him personally and his administration vulnerable to attack from democrats, obama to the special counsel now being run by bob mueller. and it has created a suffocating cloud around the white house where the rest of the agenda seems to get stalled, and he traces a lot of this back to sessions who he thought could be , a man at the justice department. charlie: some are saying it was the firing of james comey that led to the appointment of bob mueller. and if he had not listened to the people urging him to fire comey, he would not have had the special prosecutor put in place by the deputy attorney general. robert: that is exactly right. there is a lot of swirling factors that have led the president to this point. it is not just sessions recusing himself. it is the decision by the president to have a private conversation with the former f.b.i. director that prompted the special counsel. it

himself from all things relate to the russia investigation. that's been out there for a while. but we've never heard it from the president's voice and we've never heard it in such a kind of a dismissive way and in an angry way about what sessions had done. it's as if that decision has led to this cascading of an investigation. it's obviously more complicated than that. there's a different time line that the president is overlooking as to how we got to this point with the mueller investigation. but it has to be humiliating to the attorney general to be operating like this. and as i say, i think the only thing he can do is he seemed to do on thursday is swallow his pride and try to carry on as long as he can. >> jeff: the time line part of this is important from the presidential perspective and maybe hasn't been examined as much. but there's also the question shannon of finding someone if sessions did resign or was fired to find someone willing to take that job then. >> yes, almost as hard as finding someone to take the communications director job at the whitehouse which was one of t

the tone improving , whether it is europe and russia or the u.s. and russia either way? ,david: no, basically because , there are too many divided interests. --sia is interesting interested in dividing europe further. the european interest is in finding ways to stand up. there are members of the european union equally threatened by what they see as an aggressive russia. i think tone matters. but substance matters more. i think we are at a dangerous period, because the global system has been built over the had an american anger, but it also had other multilateral institutions like the european union. if you pull up the anchor, the boat starts rocking. that is the danger. it creates space. when the american anchor in the global system isn't there, when ,"ere is "unpredictability someone in the administration wants to make unpredictability if you are a small country is a , good thing to have up your sleeve. if you are the world's anchor, predictability is very important because you are the benchmark against what everyone else establishes their behavior. especially with the russians, y

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