the president and the president of russia agreed on with respect to syria? >> tony you're smiling, i think. >> i don't think they knew. we've heard about deescalation zones. it's not quite clear what that means. there's a serious question as to the extent to which iran and the assad forces are trying to establish some kind of corridor that would connect with the shiite elements in iraq and then on to iran. and part of that corridor potentially would go through the deescalation zone. it says nothing about governance in syria. nothing about stability, what happens to the people. it is one of these areas of rhetoric where at the end of it you know almost less hearing the words than you did before the announcement. >> rose: david? >> well, i agree with tony. there's a lot of uncertainty about what this-- what this means. i think the watchword for this whole campaign, i think, is the u.s. has decided the limits of what it can do, its leverage, its ability to shape the future so there is a kind of ad hoc improvised quality. that is the case with the u.s. russian cooperation. three weeks

tonight with a look inside russia with journalist nick schifrin and talk about his forthcoming series on the pbs "newshour" called "inside putin's russia." >> over the last 15 or so years, putin has brought relative stability to russia. anybody old enough to remember the '90s will remember the political and economic chaos of that, so that is the first step. the second step is re-creating russian traditions like the orthodox church, pre-soviet traditions like the kosics into a level of pride in shared religion and traditions, and that's tapped into a collective identity that russia's long had, and that means that the pride that russians feel, the patriotism that russians feel today, yes, there is some manipulation, there is some propaganda, there is a lot of repression, but it is also a genuine perception that putin has made the country more stable. >> glor: we continue with steven cook of the council of foreign relations and talk about the recent saudi arabian-led block aid of qatar and what it means for the middle east and the u.s. >> the qatarys are going to be isolated from the reg

president of russia and needed ria insurance and he gave what his staff wanted him to give which was a robust speech in the center of warsaw, very pro-polish and said russia need to be in a destabilizing campaign. then he seemed not on script and was going to give an entirely different message. he was asked if russia meddled in the election what would you do about it, he said, i think it was russia, could have been people from other countries, nobody knows for sure, once again casting doubt, and attacking president obama for not doing more about it even though president trump isn't sure it really happened, and then mentioning the whole iraq war intelligence fiasco to say who really knows with these intelligence agencies anyway. so these mixed messages are really a very interesting product of the first day. >> it's the full spectrum trump. you have donald trump in many ways, you know, the obsessive, micromanaging partisan figure, and then this very bombastic speech. i want to ask you about the speech. donald trump seems to have embraced the full-on clash of civilizations rhetoric in thi

european union are deeply threatened by what they see as an aggressive russia. so i think the tone matters but substance matters much more, and i think that we're at a very, very dangerous period because the global system being built over the last 75 years had an american anchor, but it also had other multi-lateral institutions like the european union. i'm not a voting person but if you pull up the anchor the -- i'm not a boating person but if you pull up the anchor the boat rocks. when the american anchor of the global system isn't there and there is "unpredictability," someone in the administration wants to make a virtue of unpredictability, if you're a small, weak country, that's a good thing to have up your sleeve. if you're the world's anchor, predictability is important because you're the benchmark from which everyone else establishes their behavior. i think especially with the russians, you don't want them testing you out and you want them to know well in add vanities what your positions are. some of the red lines the previous administration had were around that. i think it'

russia, but it's unclear, for example, if there is going to be any discussion about the 2016 u.s. election. is president trump going to confront president putin about what the u.s. intelligence agencies have concluded which is that russia at the direction of putin intervened with the u.s. election last year with the explicit aim of helping elect donald trump. >> glor: julie, what are the risks to taking a meeting like this if there are no clear goals in mind necessarily that we know of? >> well, it's a very risky meeting. it's a meeting that president trump really has to have. this is the president of russia. it's actually quite late in the game even in the first year of a presidency for him to be meeting with vladimir putin, but if he goes in there without an agenda, which is what the white house sort of indicated when they briefed reporters about this trip and confirmed the meeting was happening, that is a huge risk for him and the united states because you can bet vladimir putin coming in with a big agenda of his own, including he wants to see the sanctions that have been impo

the whitehouse house to figure out what's the strategy with dealing with the russia probe in the midst of all that. they need to create a clear separation between the president and the governing part of the whitehouse and the russia investigation part of management control. and move down both those tracks simultaneously. that's where we're going to be for a while and that hasn't been very effective for them so far. they're going to have to figure out how to separate scandal management from governs and put some things on the board. >> rose: do either of you know, speaking of the russian probe, an answer to why the president's so resistent to this probe, other than there is something that's damaging to him, whatever it is. >> i think there is at a minimum, there's a trump style that says basically you give no quarter when you're under attack or you're under siege. so you give no ground. is that because there's something working in the shadows or because he's afraid that was not fighting everybody every step of the way is a signal of weakness. i don't think we know which of those it

russia an we continue with an assessment of president trump's first six months in office. we talk to frank bruni, susan page, hugh hewitt and robert costa. >> as an american i'm concerned because he tapped into a great deal of anger in this country, legitimate anger about the broken ways of washington, about broken promises. what happens to that anger if after two years or four years of donald trump, washington looks exactly the same, the sorts of priorities that we have been paralyzed about and that haven't vnsed have not advanced any further. what happens to american's alreadyive schriff eled faith. this concerns me not as a democrat or republican but as an american. >> and we conclude this evening with a voice from within the white housement is he sebastian gorka deputy assistant to president trump and close ally of steve bannon. >> in the die metric opposition to the last administration, we wholeheartedly embrace what america stands for. we don't see the world problems as lying at the feet of american foreign policy or our culture. quite the opposite. we say as a juda christian n

and russia. we talk to do shannon pettypiece of bloomberg news and ed o'keefe of "the washington post." >> we have not heard much from the president today. his twitter feed has kind of been eeriely quiet. he was a bit quiet yesterday as well. and sarah huckabee saunders spokesperson to the deputy press secretary put out a statement from the president, a very short brief statement calling his, complimenting his son and saying i admire his transparency. i typically would expect the president is not one who is shy, obviously to lean into controversy when he's attacked, he fights back. of all people to be drug over the coals, his own son, his family is very important to him. >> we continue with charlie's conversation with the cast of the new production of george orwell's 1984. it is with reed birney, tom sturridge and olivia wilde. >> this is a play that speaks to our times and that's why it's really important we all experience it together. >> we conclude with the actor and comedian kumail nanjiani talked to charlie about the new film co-written by his wife, the big sick. >> why aren

, legally, politically when it comes to the russia question am and don, jr.'s involvement in this meeting last summer with a russian lawyer an a former russian military official and jared kushner and paul manafort, the former campaign hands has really caused alarm within the west wing because don, jr. is seen as someone who hasn't really thought through his response, hasn't really worked closely with the lawyers, has left many people vulnerable, has left this white house vulnerable. and if you think about the context of how this all unfolded it's telling. >> rose: we continue with ian bremmer president of the political risk consults ansi eur asia group. >> never in my life as a political scientist have have i seen two countries, major countries with a constellation of national interests that are as dissonant while the two leaders seem to be doing everything possible to make nice nice an be close to etch a other, that is what people don't understand. >> rose: we con cleul julia ioffe of the atlantic about done alt trump, jr.'s meeting with the russian lawyer last area. >> she was a

counsel will investigate things beyond russia. he fears that-- . >> rose: meaning the building of his. >> financial empire. he fathers his children will be dragged into this in a way that will be really bad for their lives. and he fears that people will start cooperating with the independent counsel. creating all sorts of potential problems. >> rose: to save their own skin. >> to save their own skin. and obviously he fears this will block anything he could do to make him a tbreat presidency. >> rose: and perhaps re-election. >> for sure. he may fear substantially more than that but he fears at a minimum those things. >> a couple of those things is he right to fear. his children, don, jr. is now being dragged in the middle of this. jared kushner, his son in law is dragged in the middle thereby dragging in some sense at least by marriage his daughter into it. and so that is happening. they're already in the middle of this now. and it is also the case that depending how you define things outside the scope of russia and again there is some question about the things that trump says. well,

can't. the rules that caused him to recuse himself from the russia investigation would also make him have to recuse himself from anything having to do with hillary clinton because of his involvement in the trump campaign. >> rose: we turn to jeremy grantham, chief strategist at g.m.o. we talk about controversial views on the future of capitalism. >> i think the biggest risk to american society is the drift to more corporate power in politics and through monopolies and so on, unless -- and less to the workers and the destruction of the unions and the income inequality where we are 20t 20th out of 20 rich countries. we are the most unequal society. also, the speed with which you can move from one economic class to another. one always used to think of america as being extremely mobile. we're the stickiest, the most difficult society in the developed 20 countries -- >> rose: to go from lower class to the middle class. >> yes. >> rose: politics and economy when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multi

dealings with russia. so you can imagine a situation where the family members would have quite an incentive to stop that investigation before it uncovers things that could potentially cause them tremendous problems. >> rose: it's hard, the shifting factions within the white house or what we know about them from the reporting because they're not united on s said to be opposed to theon hiring of the new communications chief. >> right. >> rose: according to the reports i've read, i mean, whereas others who you think would not necessarily even have an opinion were in favor of it. >> right. that's true. i mean, one of the -- one of the key dynamics at the moment is that steve bannon and reince priebus, the chief of staff, have become allies of convenience in a feud against jared kushner and ivanka trump. that is probably, in terms of the hottest conflicts in the white house, that's probably right up at the top, and jared and ivanka distrust reince priebus, they think he's incomp at the present time and want him out of the job. the extent to which steve bannon sees jared and i ivanka aa

. >> politics, donald trump and russia and trip adler when we continue. >> rose: funding for "charlie rose" has been provided by the following: bank of america. life better connected. >> and by bloomberg, a provider of multimedia news and information services worldwide. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> good evening, charlie is away. i'm jonathan karl of abc news. we begin tonight with politics. president trouble has been on a state visit to france this week, but when he returns to washington, he'll find that russia is still dominating the news. and on thursday, senate republicans released the newest version of their bill to repeal and replace the affordable care act. joining me now, megan murphy. she's the editor of bloomberg businessweek, and from washington, mike allen, the co-founder of axios and the axios am newsletter. and yoni applebaum, senior editor for politics at the atlantic. wow, it's been a heck of a week. megan, i've heard the president before he left for translashing out deeply frustrated over the fact th

himself from all things relate to the russia investigation. that's been out there for a while. but we've never heard it from the president's voice and we've never heard it in such a kind of a dismissive way and in an angry way about what sessions had done. it's as if that decision has led to this cascading of an investigation. it's obviously more complicated than that. there's a different time line that the president is overlooking as to how we got to this point with the mueller investigation. but it has to be humiliating to the attorney general to be operating like this. and as i say, i think the only thing he can do is he seemed to do on thursday is swallow his pride and try to carry on as long as he can. >> jeff: the time line part of this is important from the presidential perspective and maybe hasn't been examined as much. but there's also the question shannon of finding someone if sessions did resign or was fired to find someone willing to take that job then. >> yes, almost as hard as finding someone to take the communications director job at the whitehouse which was one of t

small region will hold? >> well, there is a deescalation in three larger regions that russia and turkey spawrnlingsed six months ago and it's holding more or less. you see the amount of suffering and killing of the syrian people has been drastically reduced since december of last year when this initiative by iran and turk ehab in place and we think it should be enlarged to include all of syria except for fighting against isis recognized by the security council organization and who cannot be a part of cease-fire. but other than that. >> rose: the united states does not want them to be part of a cease-fire either. >> i'm not saying that this is the point of convention. i'm saying that, i'm just stating defensively that we need to expand the cease-fire throughout syria. we need to allow unhindered humanitarian access to all syrians. >> rose: the united states and president trump in this case believes that russia and the united states can work together in the interest of changing syria. he said that. do you believe that iran and russia and america can work together to change syria? >> i thi