in 2013, hunter biden joined his dad vice president biden on an official trip to asia. at the same time biden was forming a chinese -- unhunter w forming a fund. and he says that he met with a banker and called it a social visit. ten days after, china issues a business license clearing the way for a fund. talk to me about how we should think about this. >> is this a great example of something that would have been a news story had jblg become toe the nominee as part of the normal scrutiny that we give to every candidate. and it doesn't look very good. it looks about as smarr any as hunter biden getting a $50,000 a month job on the board of a gas company. but no evidence that i've seen that anyone has brought to the fore that joe biden took any steps in his official capacity to 5id his son. you could argue should he have instructed his adult son to not take these jobs that seem to jive with his authority in government is this absolutely. and people have written that and said that. and this stuff was covered at the time and people said it was problematic. but the things th

absolutely not. >> that was hunter biden. joe biden's son. defending himself for the first time against donald trump's smear campaign. insisting his involvement with the ukrainian gas company was in no way improper or unethical, adding up to what he described there as poor judgment. that interview coming at an interesting time, though. in matter of hours joe biden will be on stage in ohio for the fourth primary debate where he and his fellow democrats will now almost certainly be asked about former vice president biden's son. a.b., john heilemann, the table, are back. john, how's this going over there? does this change the sort of strategy or the approach? do they -- do they -- what do they do with this? >> well, i think -- i think, nicolle, the reality is that the biden campaign has been consistently slow on trying to deal with this moment in which the vice president has been placed at the center of the most obsessively focused on story in american politics right now. he's the only democrat who's part of this story because donald trump has m

and hunter biden. in the aftermath of that, we're told that kurt volker told the ukrainian government to stay out of u.s. politics. we're learning more, wolf. we're learning he told lawmakers today that the ukrainian government had questions about why the military aid had been withheld. he did not have any good answers for the ukrainian government when he was asked about that as well. wolf, we're also learning about a meeting that had actually been planned between the ukrainian government, administration, president zelensky, and president donald trump in washington, but that meeting had been put on hold. and it is not entirely clear why it was put on hold. volker said the ukrainians raised concerns that the meeting was put on hold. if you recall from that transcript, rough transcript they released about the phone call, in that phone call, the president, they discuss a possible meeting. the president says feel free to call, come to the white house when you want. give us a date, we'll work it out. i look

his son hunter biden and earlier today hunter biden appeared on abc to talk about the controversy about his dealings with ukraine. let's listen. >> in retrospect. >> look, i think it is poor judgment on my part, i think there was poor judgment because i don't believe now when i look back on it, i know i did nothing wrong at all. however, was it poor judgment to be in the middle of something that is a -- is a swamp and in many ways, yeah. >> reporter: so that is hunter biden there giving his first comments about this ongoing controversy that is at the heart of the impeachment inquiry. president trump reaching out to the ukrainian president asking for an investigation into the bidens. now in this primary debate, wolf, talking to advisers from every campaign, no one is telegraphing they are going to go after or raise questions about this incident to joe biden himself. if it is going to play in the larger election, we'll have to see how voters respond to this. but, wolf, tonight so much different -- such a different moment. impeachment of course, and so much has happened in the last month s

on joe biden's watch, the u.s. made rad candidating corruption a centerpiece of our policies towards ukraine. earlier this week hunter biden told abc news he had done nothing illegal when he sat on those boards. liz? elizabeth: reuters now reporting hunter biden never worked on company business in ukraine during the fife years -- five years he served on that natural gas company board in the ukraine. remember, i he got paid $3 million. it didn't protect the company from a series of criminal investigations launched by ukrainian authorities against the company's owner. let's bring in former fbi deputy assistant director danny coulson. there's a lot of rhetoric flying around the story, let's break it down. it looked like, according to the evidence, that this nat gas company in ukraine brought hunter biden onboard, paid him $3 million. he never showed up to do business in the ukraine, according to reuters. it was down to look like it was going to inoculate the company to have hunter biden on the board. your reaction? >>

it was -- joe biden. >> joe biden is not unman he too wear a condom. >> a big condom guy. kennedy: for some people it is a fetish. -- all right quote 5. mitt romney wants to put you y'all back in chains who said it, joe biden, president trump or kanye west. >> why are you cheating off me. kennedy: kevin is using your mojo, he had no idea, his hand was shaking. >> cover your thing. >> white guys stealing from a contribution of the women. kennedy: have you three. here is quote 6. that is what he said, that is the game, we have a celebrity wild card or trump or biden. i am not mother teresa, but i am not charles manson either. trump biden or mike tyson who said it? look who pulls in lead, or democrat evan. >> hey. kennedy: mike tyson. >> blame putin already. >> well said. >> number 7. ready? >> lucky 7. kennedy: kidney has a special place in the heart. who said if? trump abides e, biden or nicola. >> now you are looking. >> i am not looking. kennedy: kevin in the lead with 4. >> what happened? >> in lead with 5. >> no jeerk! >> what are you doing, this happened the other day.

just because biden happens to be a candidate, anyone who has profited the way the bidens apparently has, that is not right. is it in the spotlight? yes. i think the american public sees that because it is not normal, particularly with biden saying what he did when we get rid of the investigation of the company that his son was sitting on, in particular when he was getting that money. host: he said he wanted to get rid of the investigation. prosecutorsuring the , he said at the time, to investigate corruption, including the company his sunset on. it would have further company and his son, potentially. of ukraineprosecutor -- looking into the company he was investigating that. that is the one joe biden said he wanted dismissed. if that is not a direct conflict, i don't know what is. host: where did you read that? the other reports that the vice president said you need to be doing more to stop corruption. you need to be investigating more. it was the e.u. and other countries that wanted the prosecutor dismissed. guest: you remember when he was bragging about it, he was on the air saying we

and so this is not looking good for biden. it's raising serious questions about whether he is going to be equipped to balance both now a sort of general election battle, as he tries to combat these onslaught of gop attacks when it comes to the ukraine scandal, and he also has to keep his eyes on the prize, which is the primary debate. so i think the challenge for biden is going to be trying to strike that balance between the two, not having the fundraising is obviously a huge problem for him. that's why some of his allies are actually considering launching a super pac that would independently sort of defend biden. meanwhile, the dnc is not lifting a finger to help biden with some of these attacks related to ukraine, partly because they don't want to be seen as violating their pledge to stay neutral in the primary. but you have the gop with a massive war chest. trump has $125 million that he just raked in, so this is a problem for the biden campaign. >> i want to thank you both. again, it's always at the end of a long week on a

did you find any corruption by then vice president biden or joe biden's son, hunter >> i can declare that i don't know any possible violation of ukrainian law. once again, ukrainian law by biden and by the engineer >> reporter: the current top prosecutor told us tonight his review was part of ongoing judicial reforms here and that he was not pressured by president trump, ukraine's president, or anyone else lester >> richard engel, thanks let's bring in chuck todd it's as if we're looking at this through two separate universes these days where are we as a country after what we've learned just the last 48 hours? >> look, i think we're at a crossroads as a country. we are extraordinarily polarized and divided. that we've known for almost a decade. but what the president is now pressuring essentially us as a country, testing the of the constitution, what he has admitted to in the last 48 hours is essentially violations of his oath to the constitution that the founders were always petrified of they were petrified of foreign interference so the point is this this is a moment of truth for t

joe biden observed all those rules. that's how we can have faith that he was acting on behalf of the united states. donald trump in the meantime has violated every norm, law and, you know, sort of tradition of basic ethics in the united states, one thing that makes this particular line of attack so hypocritical and so astonishing. >> during the russia investigation, we were asking can you obstruct justice in public. remember that? >> right. >> and so now the question is, with china, here he is. can you abuse the power of your office publicly? >> robert mueller answered that question. he said yes, public acts are designed to obstruct. >> very sensitive trade negotiations in the coming days and basically the president is saying, china, if you're listen i ing. >> he did it in the 2016 campaign, russia, if you're listening, get those emails. we know what happened days later. >>> committees are now spearheading the impeachment inquiry sparked by zblrchl. adam schiff has become, dana, one of the president's top targets. >> th

i talked to a lot of biden advisers, if wasn't about hunter biden, it might be different. but it's complicated for this presidential campaign and for joe biden. he's had a long struggle with drug abuse and other matters. he's never been exactly the shining light of the family. and so this is a complicated area of discussion for the former vice president. so i'm told he did not want to sit down for interviews or other things this week because he didn't want to specifically be asked a lot of hunter biden like questions. but you are going to see a different shift going forward. you could see it on friday night in california. he met with donors over the weekend in philadelphia on saturday and assured them that he's going to be aggressive. but a lot of other things are going on in the biden campaign. fundraising, he was number four and elizabeth warren is at his heels. so this is a perilous moment. >> he raised a lot of money but he's well naund nar sanders and warren. warren is closing um in iowa and new hachl. so he was being tested in the campaign anyway, in the democratic n

is that not a tacit acknowledgment from hunter biden or the biden campaign that at least there was an appearance of a conflict of interest here that was valid? >> i think it demonstrates the difference in standards relative to the white house. i mean, here you have hunter biden stepping down from a position in order to make sure, even though there's been noack sa -- no accusation of wrongdoing, doing something to make sure there is not an appearance of a conflict of interest, while in the white house there is a walking conflict of interest. you want to talk about family members? in the white house right now you have ivanka trump benefiting if patents from the chinese, you have the president's son-in-law texting with the crown prince of saudi arabia, while meanwhile the president's sons go around the world pretending the fact that their father is president of the united states has no impact on the business dealings that they do. we don't even know if trump's removal of u.s. troops in turkey don't undermine the values. we can't count on the president to face this subject. >> he thinks r

at the end of the day, i think it's most important joe biden be joe biden. the joe biden we know and love. i am sure he will do quite well in the deba it this week. >> you are the mayor of one of america's largest city and certain will i the dominant city in the south in terms of international reputation. does it concern you that the democrats in a primary fight may give the perception is that there are things in a general election could be held against the party and in many ways make people feel na the democratic party is much more extreme in some of its policies than really central democrats are and people like you have to manage and govern cities and work with people in washington and you want to see people that are willing to work with you? >> well, mayor al, i know as mayor it can't be all or nothing. if you truly want to get something done or accomplished. and i think that's what separates the vice president from others, because he served at the executive level before. what i know as mayor is that you can be as far right on some issues as you can be as

you dare to investigate joe biden. meanwhile joe biden should be investigated. his son should be investigated. and he called for impeachment of president of united states the other day. now he wants in essence democrat party in house to use impeachment clause and house of representative to advance his campaign. by trying to take out the president of united states had. oh, you top talk about interference, there is interference. all right, folks thank you for joining me, on life liberty and left uplevin, i'll see you next. reporter: new york city in the 1980ss looked different from what we know today. downtown in the crammed with luxury apartment buildings and restaurants served as a stomping ground for illicit activities including drug dealers and prostitutes. a crime rate engulfed the city.

keep in mind this time frame, he began his investigation into biden and ukraine well before biden ever announces his intention to run for president in 2018. as president trump's attorney he was conducting research because he was still defending his client to the from the line allegations against robert mueller and has witch hunt. for all of the willfully ignorant members of the mob who are shielding joe biden tonight, you may want to pay close attention to this timeline. i will try to read it slowly to you. it startss in 2010. the oligarch in the pro-russian government of victor jankovic. she started granting his company valuable gas exploration, that is called the burisma holdings, let's flash forward, president obama named vice president sleepy, creepy uncle joe as the point man for ukraine. in the same month the president is ousted and he and the oligarch are behind the issue, they flee to russia. in april of 2014, he places hunter biden and evan archer with his partner and the former aide to then john kerry on the board. either person had neither experience that we can find in oil,

biden, biden again. the president telling you exactly what he's afraid of with all these attacks on his democratic front-runner. and tonight biden is reacting, and he is not holding back. >> we've got to get something straight. all this talk of the president about corruption comes from the most corrupt president we've had in modern history. he's the definition of corruption. he's corrupted the agencies of government from the defense department, from the state department, from the justice department all about making sure that he, in fact, allows somebody else to pick his opponent for him. that's what this is about. and i am not going to stand for it, and i'm not going to respond to it. i'm not going to talk about anything other than what the facts are. he's indicted himself by his own statements. this is not about me. it's not about my son. there's not a shred of evidence there's anything done that's been wrong. >> we've got breaking news coming up on the secretary of state mike pompeo as well. and on tha

he's talking about corruption by joe biden. joe biden is not in office. if the president was interested in getting rid of corruption in the american government, it is an odd place to start with somebody who doesn't actually hold an office. rudolph giuliani has been traveling the world, cooperating with the state department. we've got reports of him dropping off dossiers at the state department, potentially. he goes on television talking about how he's being silenced which is a very odd place to talk about being silenced. i'm not sure what he's trying to do other than rally support to himself in a public relations sense. i know the yankees were on television tonight. it might be time to take in some television instead of going on. >> did he go to the yankee game tonight of i hasten to add along with allen dershwitz in his regular seats. of what we know will happen next week, anything you can share with us? obviously at this pace, you want to get a good laugh out of the guy upstairs telling your plans for tomorrow. it was just yesterday, after all, the pres

but i do think biden -- hunter biden is doing this at this point is absolutely appropriate. and by the way, maybe they could make a challenge that anyone who runs for president ought to make sure their children are not involved in companies overseas because the current occupant of the white house not only had they been involved, they are currently roved. we have patents being given to ivanka trump and the trump boys running around the world including to india and taking part in events with president modi, promoting the trump business. so yeah, i think people should make sure that they don't even eerns -- even the appearance of the conflict of interest. >> during the debate it is not fair to bring it up. i think hunter biden has been inappropriately thrust into the middle of a presidential campaign. false accusations made by president trump. and they've been debunked and fact checked and they are false and doesn't exist. now issues should be raised about conflict of interest and as linda mentioned there is plenty of that in the trump administration, the trump world. whether i

bide bidens. >> what? of course there is veracity. we just showed you that veracity. and there's more. turns out it wasn't just senators markey and shaheen in on this swampy cash for gas deal. we cross referenced the senate co sponsors of markey's ukraine gas bill with the list of democrats, burisma lobbyist routinely gave money to. found another one, senator richard blumenthal. burisma's lobbyist give money to blumenthal three times, the next year blumenthal returned the favor by backing legislation that would directly benefit burisma and hunter biden. how is any of this different to the alleged offenses for which those two giuliani cronies were rightly arrested this week? this is the quid pro quo. this is the foreign meddling, foreign interests buying up members of congress, democrat senators who hand out policy favors and taxpayer dollars to the highest foreign bidder. this is a massive scandal. u.s. cash for ukraine gas. senator ed markey, senator jean shaheen, senator richard blumenthal, john kerry, d

burisma, if his last name or not biden. well he says he doesn't regret his business ventures, he does admit has actions of late into the hands of his father's clinical enemies. watch. >> i'm a human. did i make make a mistake? maybe, in the grand scheme of things, yeah. but to make a mistake upon some unethical labs? absolutely not. >> harris: meanwhile, joe biden attempting to turn the tables on president trump's attacks, releasing an ethics plan. he says it would ensure no future president can use our office for personal gain, and accusing the trump administration of being mostly corrupt. "the most corrupt in american history." this is "outnumbered." i'm harris faulkner. here today, melissa francis. fox news can become a lisa boothe. fox news contributor, jessica tarlov. sound like a wrestling match. [laughter] in the center seat, always good to have him. editor in chief of "the daily caller" news foundation, chris bedford is here. we are saying you're "outnumbered" but always among friends. let's rock 'n' roll. joe biden

biden and his son hunter. and this is what the president had to say about our former ambassador earlier today. >> mr. president, why did you recall the u.s. ambassador to the ukraine? was she a problem? wide di you recall her? >> i heard very bad things about her, and i don't know if i recalled her or somebody recalled her, but i heard very, very bad things about her for a long period of time. >> back with us tonight, we are so happy to have michael mcfaul, former u.s. ambassador to russia. and ambassador, let me start with the start. the only reason we know any of this in addition to the fact the existence of the whistleblower complaint is that phone call in july. it seems to me about half the west wing payroll was listening in on a dead key to that phone call, including our secretary of state. how rare is that? >> well, in my experience, extremely rare. i worked for three years at the white house, prepped many phone calls with foreign leader, including the leaders of russia. never was a secretary of state on

instead of going after biden, they let biden flounder on his own a bit, stumble over his own words, and instead go after warren to show themselves as the alternate warren, that they were the one who could be the counterbalance. if you're a little uncomfortable with elizabeth warren's positions, you don't need to go to joe biden. you can come to me, amy klobuchar. i have a experience. i'm from the midwest, the heart land, and stake out that for themselves. if anything shifts which i don't know if it will at this point, i can see one of them being able to pick up moderate votes from people on the fence. >> david, they were going for voters like you. they're going for voters who are more in the moderate sphere, people who might not be comfortable with elizabeth warren. if you look at the cash on hand, buttigieg has a lot of money out there. more really left on hand than biden. out of the klobuchar/buttigieg moderate wing tonight, who do you think was more resonant for voters like you? >> look, let me start by saying i find myself as a former republican, never-trumper, always more encouragi

they heard a question of joe biden about hunter biden, a leading question he dismissed and a lot of politics about what people say but in this case it is what people saw and last night you saw clearly that was before and is the front runner and everyone else seems to be the front runner. there were moments joe biden almost faded into the background and when he did and he was stumbling and you can't call them mishaps because it happens every single debate. just not on his game the way he may have been in the past. as watching who is best to take on donald trump clearly democrats trained their fire on he was a before and believe she is on her way up. joe biden struggled last night. jillian: i was curious if you have talk to anybody about this. elizabeth warren surging in the polls, joe biden falling a little bit in the polls. when you look at independents and moderate democrats, is anybody jumping out in that category? as of right now it doesn't seem like it. >> i reinforce how you are feeling, doesn't seem like that at all and we are hearing names like andrew yang and tulsi gabbard, do they l

but i never thought that biden -- i didn't think biden was going to win. i guess everybody has a shot. but i don't think he would be frankly my toughest opponent either. and just to finish off -- just to finish off, i don't think that he will win. i didn't think he was going to win and i don't think he is going to win. >> what do you think about facing elizabeth warren. >> that's fine. i mean it's fine. she is a socialist and maybe worse than that. but we'll see. i heard -- i haven't seen the poll numbers. i haven't seen biden's poll numbers. joe bidden was never going to make it, all right. he tried it twois. he is at 1%. there is a reason. when i nounsed i went to number one day one and stayed there the entire primary season. i never -- i never was off center stage. i was never given credit for that except by steve. the oem one giving me credit was steve. [ inaudible question ] >> who? >>. [ inaudible question ] >> they were trying no set up a meeting but he wanted sanctions lifted and i said you must be kidding. rouhani wanted a meeting at the u.n. our

son, hunter biden. president trump's pursuit of political dirt about the bidens in the ukraine triggered the impeachment inquiry. and hunter has become a target personally of president trump. in the interview hunter biden defended his overseas work but also said his involvement in the border of a ukrainian gas company was, quote, poor judgment. biden did benefit from his father's name and position. >> it's impossible for me to be on any boards without saying i'm the son of the vice president of the united states. >> if your last name wasn't biden, would you have been asked to be on the board of burisma? >> i don't know. probably not. there's a lot of things that wouldn't have happened in my life if my last name wasn't biden. >> kate, nice to see, happy debate day. >> thanks for having me, chuck. >> let me start with, your campaign seemed pretty emphatic that hunter biden shouldn't have to go out there, you guys didn't need to be answering questions about hunter biden, he had nothing to answer for, that

not joe biden. joe stayed on it because he knew americans needed to have this so he was there and i was privileged because i was one of the people that worked on the affordable care in the house and to watch his place and we had children whose lives changed for the better in the room with us and to watch joe biden's face was to know everything you need to know about joe biden that he was there from the beginning and understanding and caring and making sure it happened and working with the house and the senate to make sure that this went through. i spent almost nine years on the house services committee and during that time, i had the privilege of traveling around the world and talking to world leaders as we do, congressional and hearing what was on their mind and their worries and concerns in talking about the united states and our role, as well. and it was so wonderful, always joejoe biden's name brought the greatest response, knowing that joe biden cared about our allies and cared about what was h

>> i h joe biden? >> i haven't but certainly something we can start thinking about. >> reporter: president trump referring to hunter biden, who formed a chinese private equity fund while his father was vice president. in 2013, joining him aboard airm force 2 on an official trip to beijing, where hunter biden met privately with a chinese banker. the biden campaign calls the president's accusations of wrongdoing a dismantled conspiracy theory. with biden taking aim at president trump last night wrongdoing a dismantled conspiracy theory. >> i'll put my integrity, whole career of public service in this nation up against his long record of lying, cheating and stealing any day of the week. >> reporter: top house democrat today blasting president trump's new call for china to investigate his political rival. >> it endangers our el >> it endangers our elections. it endangers our national security it ought to be condemned by every member of this body, democrats and republicans alike. >> reporter: meanwhile lawm

when he of course urged that investigation into joe biden and hunter biden. they also show that one big thing is that how cog sant the ukrainians were they essentially wanted to they knew the importance of this investigation. to giuliani and president trump. reporting in the day coming from a small portion of the text message release that talked about how some u.s. diplomats were helpful in drafting part of a document to give to the ukrainians on talking about investigation. we now know according to to sources that document was started by the ukrainians. they were aware the u.s. and president trump wanted them to make a statement in some form about calling for an investigation about cracking down on corruption. some back and forth between the u.s. and ukraine. again the puzzle pieces just coming together. how extensive the conversations were. behind the scenes. >> listen, i'm getting some of it. i wonder what else ground interesting. i saw this. had breakfast with rudy this morning. most important to say he will help investigation and address any specific per

his son, hunter biden? is he right? >> it's [ bleep ]. from first word to the last word. >> did people here in ukraine, investigators like yourself, anti-corruption activists, think that shokin was doing a good job that he was effective? >> absolutely not. shokin was corrupt, ineffective prosecutor. it was international partners of ukraine that shokin was a disaster, he had to go. he was intimidating investigators in his office. >> biden was pushing for someone who be more aggressive, more actively looking into burisma and other companies? >> that's correct. >> giuliani is rewriting what happened. shokin was a prosecutor who was widely viewed by experts as being a holdover from the pro-moscow yanukovych era, who wasn't doing an adequate job in prosecuting burisma, the gas company, or lots of other corruption issues. and there was a general agreement that it was time to get him out. >> victor shokin was formally let go with a vote in ukraine's parliament. a new prosecutor general, yuri letsenko, took over qu

i think that should be done for joe biden. release joe biden's transcripts with ukraine. use the same standards and let the american people read the transcripts and decide. >> margaret: for a look at what americans are thinking about the headlines dome nating our conversations on "face the nation owe we turn to our cbs news elections andreors. anthony has two polls for us today. first we look at the national poll on the impeachment inquiry. anthony, over the past two weeks have you seen a change? >> not over the last two weeks. we see hardening partisan positions here. repub hi cans increasingly say they support the president. don't think he should cooperate with congress. democrats strongly approving of the inquiry. important watching the polls differentiate against a inquiry, which there is marginal majority support. get the facts and learn what happened. whether they think the president deserves impeachment. that's much more mixed nationally. what i think is interesting going forward, margaret. you taupbg to the people who say they don't know which way to go on this, t

in august hillary clinton allegedly tells vice president biden she will not go after hunter biden if he runs. in december of 2015 vp joe biden tells the president of ukraine that he must dismiss the prosecutor general victor show again. after "the new york times" gave him a heads up. in february 2016, vice president biden and ukrainian president talking on the phone about removing the prosecutor general. can we please release this transcript? investigating his son and then march of 2016, biden and the vice president issues has wood pro quote, the shakedown that he would uphold 8 billion of year t prosecutor general is fired. a few days later he was fired and biden bragged about it. and may 80 prosecutor general is hired and that same spring the new prosecutor meets with the american ambassador. she allegedly tells him to drop several investigations and meanwhile and you and ukrainian law enforcement agency announces it's uncovered a massive fraud scheme involving -- that's right, hunter biden's partner. that same month biden meets with ukrainian prime minister and a few months later

but otherwise, biden, biden, biden, biden, biden, biden. seven of the eight polls since the debate, biden has led in. what does that mean? if you average every poll together, this is probably the fairest snapshot of where the democratic race stands nationally. biden is still in first, warren a little more than five points behind, sanders. remember, all those predictions that sanders was going to fade out bought of his health scare, he's still sitting there at 17%. that's probably the fairest readout nationally on what the shakeout of the debate is. individual polls can take you in wildly different directions. trust the averages when that happens. >> okay, steve, at the risk of mucking up your beautiful presentation, tell me the poll i saw today that has biden in iowa in fourth place because all roads lead through there, but this may explain why the biden campaign has been saying iowa shmiowa, wait until you see us in south carolina. >> yeah, so take a look here, this is an iowa state poll that came out today. warren in first in iowa. buttig

tonight, as promised we will bring you our swamp watch on joe biden, hunter biden and ukraine. here's the headline. the corruption is not what everyone is been talking about. it's not the firing of the prosecutor, it is different and worse. all that ahead. along side me to it break down the impeachment ms. matt gates, tammy bruce and lisa booth. iona start with what we learned. i've seen some who opposed this and dismiss it. yes he may have behaved badly but it's not impeachable. let's wait till the election to hash it out. okay, except that's not how this is going to go down. it looks like this will end up with the trial in the senate. as we move toward that, i want anyone who watches the show to be well informed about the details of the actual evidence , not the talking points, the evidence. we had a lot of new evidence this week and i want to take you through it. here's what hasn't changed. this week we had new confirmation from an old friend of the real motivation for all the. >> he knows he's an illegitimate president. >> he knows that he's an illegitimate president. >> th

and it wasn't just about hunter biden and joe biden, it was also about the cnc server that they think is lurking in the ukraine. there's a whole mess of it. there is a good 30 or 40% of americans that believe that what happened with joe biden matters, and its stinky or swampy. we know that swampy behavior happens on both sides of the aisle. the difference here is for an impeachment inquiry, we know the president of the united states of america cannot leverage foreign leaders to interfere in the election. and that is what the issue is right now. joe biden has released an epic plan that essentially outlaws what he was doing, while admitting he was wrong. >> but here's the thing. if you are not impeaching joe biden, you can have this conversation but the president is essentially -- >> it's important because you want to find out why the president was interested in it. and to find out, you have to see if there is any they're. i think people got caught up with the fact that joe biden is a candidate. if joe biden wasn't a candidate, he has to figure out where diplomatic ieds are put into pla

or joe biden that expect ukraine or china why hundredth per biden paid why joe biden interceded told ukrainian government that prosecutor needs to be fired? little plane ride on air force two with his father to china and the financial relationship that resulted from that investigating donald trump -- it's like the russian matter the only one who colluded with russia was hillary clinton of the dnc. not to mention the obama administration at the highest level of the fbi. the only one who is really colluded with ukraine again, the obama administration, ukraine, and biden on behalf of the son. trump didn't collude with the ukraine as i said where's congressional oversight that everybody talk about and they talk a about interference by -- may fourth, 118 robert mendez patrick writing general prosecutor of the yiewg crane and threatening him and among other things they say we respectfully request that you reply answering following question this is how they talk to foreign government has your office taken any steps to restrict cooperation with the investigation by special counsel robert mue

no evidence that biden -- that either biden did anything wrong. voters, according to this poll, may be moving on. a new cnn national poll shows the former vice president has widened his lead over his 2020 democratic rivals. biden is at 34% of support of potential democratic voters. his best showing since after his campaign launch. that's a 15-point lead now over elizabeth warren who is in second place. >> sunday's senior politics writer harry enten is with us to talk about this. he's got to be feeling good about this, for sure. he's seen a ten-point boost since september what struck us is how he has consolidated his support among nonwhite voters. 42% there. >> yeah. look. 30%, joe biden, solid as a rock. all the polls. we see consistently sometimes a little bit above, sometimes a little below but consistently he has been right around that 30% mark. just can't seem to move him off of that. in this particular poll he's picked up some support from his lower tier candidates who haven't been making the debate stage. that's why his numbers have risen wh

>> hunter biden, the son of former vice president joe biden has found himself at the center of a political firestorm. >> where is hunter? where's hunter. >> where is hunter? >> where is hunter? >> he's right here. >> i'm here and i'm workin' and i'm livin' my life. >> president trump says you're in hiding. >> hiding in plain sight, i guess. yeah. no, not at all. not at all. >> look, biden and his son are stone cold crooked. >> the president has been on the rampage. accusing 49 year old biden of improperly profiting on business interests in ukraine while his father was the obama administration's point person in that country. all leading to that now infamous phone call in july. >> it's a very honorable call. a nice call. >> when president trump asked ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskiy to investigate the bidens. no evidence of wrongdoing has been found against either one >> how did you react to learning that president trump called the ukrainian president in a phone call, asking him to investigate you and your father? >> i was like every other american, i was shocked. >> did you call your

if you remember, hunter biden and joe biden keep saying he was getting paid $50,000 a month. there is just one thing wrong with that. the fbi raided devon archer's office and bank records in an unrelated case in 2016. they show transfers of $166,000 a month, as high as $220,000 in one month, going into hunter biden and devon archer's firm. that's's a lot more than $50,00, and it was one of those things that teach the ukrainian prosecutor's interest in reopening the case in march of 2019. the size of the money was much larger than joe biden and hunter biden have been saying. >> sean: al all right, let's go back. we have the affidavit of his prosecutor. of the prosecutors on record saying he got fired for this reason. we have multiple -- there's no explanation. how is it that the mob and the media -- you've got quid pro quo here. you've got your legal actions here. how do they ignore that part of the story and say it is a conspiracy theory? and joe biden, you know, very defensively keep saying, there's nothing to this story, nothing to this story. there really is a lot to the s

are so terrified against joe biden, they don't want to 'tn against joe biden,y and that's trump has been doing everything, and i think that's a natural way to comegr back, but iee he has slipped. >> woodruff: one thing, new information that's come in, and that's how much money the democrats raisedn the last quarter. joe biden came inourth among all democrats. both the "new york times" and "the washington post are reporting tonight that bernie sanders did have a heart attack this week. we knew there was an incident, artery, but the reporting is hen had a heart attack. having said that, we swed the graphic, he picked up more than $25 million, bnie sanders di5 , better than all of the -- all oi his comrs, elizabeth warren came in after him, and then pete buttigieg and joe goden, and we just showed our audience -- we'rg back and forth here, but we just showed them president trump amount andeth 125 million, of course, overshadowing everything that the democrats have done. but ramesh, what if we learned right now?bers if an >> i think they tend to confirm the trends that we're talking abo

he didn't say hunter biden. but he said biden's son. there's nothing in the transcript, which i would encourage everybody to read. it will take you less than five minutes to read. there's nothing in there that's wrong. it was a conversation between two leaders and there's nothing impeachable. there's no high crime. there's no misdemeanor. it was just hey, let's get to the bottom of this and by the way, would you speak to our a.g. and rudy giuliani. >> so let's go through it a little bit, if you would. we don't know that it is a verbatim -- we know it's not a verbatim transcript. >> sure. >> it's about 2,000 words of a 30-minute call but it's the best we're going to get at this point. it wasn't recorded. so when you look at it, the idea of the president being asked for military assistance, following up the request by asking for a favor which includes working with his personal attorney to take a look at his political opponent -- >> that didn't happen during that transcript. >> how not? >> what we read, it did not say anything about the --

back biden's 2020 bid. warren and sanders battle it out for second place with warren securing 18% of south carolina democrats support. that is up four points in september. among democrats in 18 early primary and caucus states, elizabeth warren leads the democratic field with 31% of support, joe biden falls closely behind at 25. 17% say they back bernie sanders. and americans are also being asked about their top issues heading into tuesday's debate. once again, health care comes in at 87%. climate change staggering at 79%, an and income inequality at 70%, notably 52% said the impeachment of president donald trump is also a very important issue. you get a sense of where the voters mind-set is going into the debate. >> since we've been talking about the 2020 election for a year or so, health care has been one of the most important issues. let's get a check on your weather. >> i feel like the chill is in the air. it's time to break out the winter coats. we've already had about three rounds of winter weather for

the key here to your point, brianna, yes, hunter biden, joe biden's son was on the board of a ukrainian national gas company. it that is true. everything else donald trump has said about, or alleged, is false. there's no connection of any sort in corruption. go ahead. i'm sorry. >> pence is, and i know, and you know, and we all know for having covered pence for so long, that pence is lying, and that he knows that he is, because he says that the president was raising issues that were appropriate. i do not believe that mike pence believes the president, in his heart of hearts or even, you know, just superficially believes what the president was saying was appropriate. >> hard to imagine a governor pence, a house republican pence, under any other circumstances, any other president, seeing this exact conversation would say those things that it's appropriate, but this is the, this is the cross that he bears. this is what he decided he was going to jump in on when he said donald trump, i will be your running mate. he decided he's going to be loyal. that he, just like lindsey graham, he has de

for joe biden, always attack. go after donald trump who is a one-man crime wave. >> so alexander, is it good or bad that we will hear from joe biden in a televised interview on the morning of his next father's debate. >> i think they're on the defense. they're trying to save face. i think at the end of the day this is exactly what the republican party want. the fight that donald trump is trying to pick. he is trying to say that basically everybody is corrupt and basically put aside their own so they can advance sort of an agenda, and painting it that way. so i this i that joe biden is right to clear the air but we should call it for what it is and democrats should see the strategy. >> so vice president biden, as paul says, you got to play offense, go for it. he has been trying to do that, lash out at the president and look at the trump children. here's a case of what we have seen over the past 24, 36 hours or so. >> no one in my family will have an office in the white house, will sit in at meetings as if they're a

how about biden at 78? 28% said joe biden would be too old. these are democrats. how about this? bernie sanders 79. 43%. remember, this coming after he had that heart attack a couple weeks ago. they polled this question before. the last time they did sanders the number was down in the 30s. it is now moved up to 43%. again, to the extent that matters to democrats, not quite clear. but there is a big difference there. 71, 79, 43, 4 in terms of saying too old. interesting finding. up next a look at why tomorrow's democratic debate could be a moment of truth for many candidates. you're watching "hardball." woman 1: i had no symptoms of hepatitis c. man 1: mine... man 1: ...caused liver damage. vo: epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. vo: whatever your type, ask your doctor if epclusa is your kind of cure. woman 2: i had the common type. man 2: mine was rare. vo: epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. man 3: i just found out about my hepatitis c. woman 3: i knew for years. vo: epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken with or without food for 12 weeks. vo: before starting e

what happened was, on deceer 4 of 2013, hunter biden went on air foe two with hi father joe biden who was ce president. joe biden led with the leader of china, xi jinping, for about five hours, and during thisth two-day trip, joe biden was introduced by his sonunter to a gentleman who was involved with an investment matter tha bt hunten was involved with. hunter biden did become a member, unpai of an advisory group that was inviesing an investment group that wanted to raise $1.5 billion. so this day, hunter biden's lawyer has said hunter biden acally hasn't made money from an investment that took place in 2017. hunter biden owns a rcentage a company that has been involved here and a lawyer said no money has been maode. hunter biden has repeatedly declined to talk to us. there are questions about why he joined this board, what he did, why he did this in the wke of the trip by hi father to beijing. so some on all sides would say why would he do tanid potentially put his father up for questioning later. d st as hunter biden joined a gas company in ukraine at a time when hisfather was she

biden: -- mr. biden: my dad was a real gentleman. --would tell me, remember she would say the same to my sister, except he would say a woman -- you have to be a man of your word, otherwise you're not a man. it's about honor and it's about family. i learned that my grandpa's kitchen table. not a joke. iswould say, joey, family the beginning, the middle and the end. the older i got, the more i learned to admire my dad's courage and resilience. when scranton fell on hard times in the late 1940's and early 1950's, my dad -- if you listen ,o rock, he always -- to barack he talks about scrappy joe biden from scranton. as a matter of fact, i was in a beforein a little town my son passed away, one of the favorite parades my kids would go to with me. i was walking down the parade route and thanking them for being good to my boy, and three guys looking like you i played ball within school came behind me and said, what is all of this about scranton? your from delaware. [laughter] mr. biden: but my dad, like i said, if you listen to barack, you'

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, hunter biden are going to have real problems explaining why hunter biden was making $50,000 a month from a foreign company. i don't think that regular americans believe that hurter biden legitimately earned that money. lou: well as a regular american myself, i think that the idea that a cia officer as a whistleblower is absolutely on its face preposterous, and what in the world are we watching here, someone unknown still has changed the requirement of the whistleblower statute for direct knowledge andy mccarthy telling us very clearly, that this may mean that the whistleblower is not only a whistleblower as most , i think, suspect already, but has no standing irrespective of whether they change the form or not. >> you would not be able to get the so-called evidence from this whistleblower admitted into a court of law. so how are we supposed to use it as the basis to impeach a president of the united states and really that's an attack on the voters. that is undidding the will of the voters in a pretty democratic way so i would think that we need to do precisely what john solemn emen