let's get back to our conversation with erskin bowles. i always like having you on, i feel there can be a meeting of the minds, i view you as an old democrat, not a new one so much. >> i am at all difficult. >> i will tell you what i mean by that, in light of what happened with the fed and what we're doing, where we are with the fed. it becomes more important. because we seem to be locked in this notion until we get to 6% unemployment, we continue get the fed of 3 or 4%. i see these things in the future that are head winds to that. the things we seem to be focusing on the obama administration, immigration, we want to that, climate change, i don't know, i think that will be a negative for joshs. when we try to do obamacare in 2014, we are seeing effects there. it's almost like they punted on the job creation side of things because they believe they can't get anything through congress, they can't do infrastructure. they can't do another stimulus package. it's almost like they think, since we can't do it, we will focus on these other things.