basically agreeing with austin is brock obama just a continuation george w. bush george w. bush because you have the capture the neo-cons you have the security forces you have the military have captured the presidency again that's an empty suit on all of the issues that osten just mentioned here because we had torture under george w. bush and it did and now we have drones we have killed listen what i'm getting at is that maybe not to the defamation of either person's character per se on this program daniel but the capture of the presidency itself by these other forces that are never elected by anyone. well your last question is coincide to each other and that both of these president said vastly different intents george w. bush went through nine eleven which was. just a catastrophe beyond words and did create homeland security to poor been one ton of obaid things like that but that was a the thing the excuse of mine it was a presidency and a country in crisis on how to deal with this catastrophe and this first attack on our soil since pearl harbor compare that to president o

bush but let me just tell you something right now president george w. bush never claimed the right to extradition really assassinate american citizens this president barack obama should be impeached for crimes against the citizens and against the constitution because he has killed women and children in drone strikes he initiates double taps when he fires as drones which means the first responders come in those people are killed women and children so i just like to say that i think that history is not going to judge the presidency of barack obama and george bush in the same light whatsoever this president is heinous with his record on civil liberties he's also raised more money than wall street than any perform wall street than any president in the last twenty years seventy three billion dollars he gave to his corporate. cronies from the troubled assets relief program i think obama is way worse than bush and i am not a big fan of george w. bush ok often you could probably be co-hosting this program i guess i don't need to say very much definitely did you

bush and i am not a big fan of george w. bush ok and you could probably be co-hosting this program i guess i don't need to say very much definitely give you reflect upon what we've heard from give ruby and for a monster america there is no compare and contrast between either president whatsoever besides having a spending problem this president currently has spanned and pulling the debt and deficits out of control more than all presidents combined however george w. bush did spend too much but his governing style foreign policy prowess taking a set of crisis and leadership style are night and day over what president obama's are. one of my favorite parts of the job is given a platform of musicians that use their music to fight for change and to increase awareness about issues that most performers are afraid to. push method a band headlined by dusty your re and have a seat and bodies this notion and uses hip hop and fuse vocals and socio political lyrics order to get their message heard well i invited them on the show to perform

i don't think you'll hear george w. bush making a statement like that. but dick cheney has a different agenda. first of all, his daughter is running for the senate in wyoming as a tea party candidate, rather absurdly, since she's basically from the beltway. and dick cheney is trying to help her out by appealing to the tea party worst. i think that's what's going on, number one. number two i think republicans more generally, chris, have always been infuriated by the high personal standing of president barack obama. by him as a candidate. by him as a president. by the fact that he has seen to many of his supporters and to most americans, to be an honest, straightforward, decent guy. and this somehow is especially infuriating to republicans. it drives them crazy, and they're doing everything they can now given the opportunity to try to drag him down to their level. and that's what dick cheney is up to. >> let me go to -- let me go to david on the same question, because i do think we can argue and we're going to do it here as we've done about the screw-ups r

to cross off the presidencies of george w. bush and barack obama i'm joined by my guest austin peterson in washington he's the c.e.o. of stone gate an editor of the libertarian republic dot com also in washington we have daniel for achi he is the director of grassroots political consulting and in phoenix we cross to kimberly a day old she is the president of world money watch and author of beyond the great recession art cross talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want to kimberly you got up early as for this program and i like to go to the person i got up earlier so kimberly simple question is obama serving george bush's fourth term. not in any way shape or form. the most important difference between george bush and barack obama is and you're going to laugh at this but it's really true bush increased the debt six trillion obama increased five trillion and the reason that it's worse under bush than it was under obama is because bush had he had a small recession in the beginning of his term but in his secon

but let me just tell you something right now president george w. bush never claimed their right to extradition really assassinate american citizens this president barack obama should be impeached for crimes against the citizens and against the constitution because he has killed women and children in drone strikes so i'd just like to say that i think that history is not going to judge the presidency of barack obama and george bush in the same light whatsoever i think obama is way worse than bush and i am not a big fan of george w. bush ok and you could probably be co-hosting this program i guess i don't need to say very much definitely give you reflected on what we have heard from good ruby and from ostend there there is no compare and contrast between either president whatsoever besides having a spending problem this president currently has spent and following the debt and deficits out of control more than all presidents combined however george w. bush did spend too much but his governing style foreign policy prowess taking a set of crisis and lead

is way worse than bush and i am not a big fan of george w. bush ok and you could probably be co-hosting this program i guess i don't need to say very much definitely reflective on what we have heard from. there is no compare and contrast between either president whatsoever besides having a spending problem this president currently has spanned the debt and deficits out of control more than all presidents combined however george w. bush did spend too much but his governing style foreign policy taking a set of leadership style or night and day over what president obama's are. wealthy british. markets why not. find out what's really happening to the global economy. gridlock. to build a new most sophisticated. tunes mission to teach music creation and why it should. this is why you should. only. historic milestone or historic mistake president obama struggles to find the right words to appease both israel and capitol hill hawks while admitting iran's right to peaceful energy. police and protesters fired tear gas at each other in the ukrainian capi

george w. bush administration, the obama can administration have shown a pronounced ten denity so release the white house salary lists late in the day on a friday. the obama administration announced they would keep the george w. bush military tribunals going. when new jersey governor chris christie decided to veto the 50 caliber gun ban that he suggested it announced it late in the day on a friday. this is how they do it. friday news dumps make the news business the the only business in america where the time you are happiest to go to work is friday night because of all the junk they do on friday night they hope nobody will notice. they let fly an epic friday news dump. one that, in fact, may really be the legacy of this entire congress. as you know, this congress has no record of having passed anything at all. and i don't see that as an epithet. they have passed no significant legislation since they have been in session at all, all year long. nothing. they didn't shut down the government. they

more than all presidents combined however george w. bush did spend too much but his governing style foreign policy prowess taking a set of crisis and leadership style or night and day over what president obama's are. when we take some top three ok one. one why. did you put. that one. home. for. the communications and get it you know she recommends simply saying that when the president. i meant you didn't pull it out. and then yes oh. ah yes ah ah. well initially we founded this movement as a response to feminists actions. i decided to infiltrate the group to be in a position to construct what femen suggested. the tools and infiltration. it was necessary for us to get insight into how he might end up with such ultimately extreme methods of protest. what's behind them what do they have to suggest. it very quickly it became quite clear to me who they are. members of the from just a group. girls. do music they have no phone dacian that you could call an ideal that she was opposed to discuss such nonsense and ask. most to hold it was impres

i mean you can't talk about presidential (bleep) without somehow bringing up george w. bush. he just had so many. it's like talking about rock 'n' roll without bringing up elvis, gotta respect the king. >> jon: can't we find a bush fiasco that is quite so callous or hyperbolic? >> of course there's guantanamo, my pet goat leek, valerie plame leak. bush left us with presidential terds to choose from. >> i see it as the waterboarding. health care.gov is the towel wrapping around our faces and the board is the failed promise of universal health care. >> jon: ah -- well what is the water? >> i don't know, water is water, jon. what am i robert frost. >> obamacare is obama's 2008 financial crisis. it's the perfect 1 to 1. that was bad. this is bad boom done. >> i have to go with the classics i sat the web site is obama's iraq war because when i think glitchy web site the first thing that comes to my mind is decade long wars started under false pretenses. [ laughter ] and we all remember that press conference. [ laughter ] >> jon: actually that -- if i may, al, that never happened.

as far as we can tell, george w. bush is still speaking. wow. joining us now, the journalist who broke this story in mother jones, sarah pozner. nice to have you here. >> thanks for having me, rachel. >> so, former presidents tend to spend their time on global charities and disaster relief and so on. do you have any insight into why president bush is speaking to an apock liptic group like this? >> i was actually surprised to find out he was speaking to this group. his alliances with evangelicals and christian zionists are long standing and well documented, but for jews, these messian messianic jews, this is kind of beyond the pale. i think with christian zionists, they have made peace with them even though they have these ideas, but they're basically saying, look, we're going to identify as jewish, but tell all you jewish people that you've been blind for 2,000 years to the identity of the real messiah and we're going to use all of your rituals and sacred objects and identify ourselves as jews and say we're the real jews because we see jesus as

george w. bush. the signature flavor of his failure as a president was, of course, his inclination to make decisions without necessarily understanding all of the consequences, and then to doggedly stick with those decisions, even when it was clear they were terribly, terribly wrong. do you remember that? do you remember those eight years? the absence of contrition, the refusal to change course, no matter how obviously wrong the course? well, in the 4 years and 10 months of george w. bush's post-presidency, including and especially tonight, it appears that what you remember about the guy really has not changed. now to a whole new effect. and that story is ahead. ♪ [ female announcer ] just about anywhere you use sugar, you can use splenda® no calorie sweetener. splenda® lets you experience the joy of sugar without all the calories. think sugar, say splenda™ for those nights when it's more than a bad dream, be ready. for the times you need to double-check the temperature on the thermometer,

george w. bush. the signature flavor of his failure as a president was, of course, his inclination to make decisions without necessarily understanding all of the consequences, and then to doggedly stick with those decisions, even when it was clear they were terribly, terribly wrong. do you remember that? do you remember those eight years? the absence of contrition, the refusal to change course, no matter how obviously wrong the course? well, in the 4 years and 10 months of george w. bush's post-presidency, including and especially tonight, it appears that what you remember about the guy really has not changed. now to a whole new effect. and that story is ahead. (dad) just feather it out. that's right. (son) ok. feather it out. (dad) all right. that's ok. (dad) put it in second, put it in second. (dad) slow it down. put the clutch in, break it, break it. (dad) just like i showed you. dad, you didn't show me, you showed him. dad, he's gonna wreck the car! (dad) he's not gonna wreck the car. (dad)

but that is who george w. bush put in charge of the office of legal council. in arkansas he nominated to be federal judge the former president of arkansas right to life. who said if you favored abortion rights you're like a nazi. he's the one that wrote concern for rape victims is a red herring because conceptions from rape occur with the same frequency of snowfall in miami. he should be a judge. then there was jay bybee famous nationally only for authored the memo of bybee. it authorized the use of torture as american policy. it's a lifetime appointment. he's not going anywhere. to torture guy. republicans now filibuster everything in the senate. they require a 60-vote supermajority for everything down to the level of naming post offices. and their beltway argument of justifying that is, well, you know, under george w. bush, democrats used the filibuster a lot. yeah, democrats definitely used it under president bush, but not for every piece of normal business in the senate. they used it to try to block the kind of amazing nominations that george w. bush made

george w. bush. the signature flavor of his failure as a president was, of course, his inclination to make decisions without necessarily understanding all of the consequences, and then to doggedly stick with those decisions, even when it was clear they were terribly, terribly wrong. do you remember that? do you remember those eight years? the absence of contrition, the refusal to change course, no matter how obviously wrong the course? well, in the 4 years and 10 months of george w. bush's post-presidency, including and especially tonight, it appears that what you remember about the guy really has not changed. now to a whole new effect. and that story is ahead. [ female announcer ] skin looking tired? wake it up with olay regenerist. formulated with a skin energizing complex, it penetrates 10 layers of the skin's surface, because energized skin is younger looking skin. ♪ is younger looking skin. you get your coffee here. you get your hair cut here. you find that certain thing you were looking

george w. bush is raising money for that group this week. so far, the former president's decision has been denounced as "infuriating" by one of the country's most influential rabbis. the anti-defamation league, which loves george w. bush, today put out this statement announcing their disappointment -- "we were disappointed to learn that former president george w. bush has decided to move ahead with his plan to speak at a fund-raising event for an evangelical proselytizing group whose stated goal is to convert jews to christianity. president obama is a friend who has an abiding love and respect for the jewish people. therefore, i wish he would not speak there." yeah, i know, he's still speaking there. sarah pozner at mother jones first broke the story thursday night. we interviewed her and featured the story here on friday. by the time our story ran, the convert the jews for the rapture group had already removed any mention of former president bush from their online hype for the fund-raiser, but according to "the dallas morning news," preside

all presidents combined however george w. bush did spend too much but his governing style foreign policy prowess taking us at a crisis and leadership style are night and day over what president obama's are. when the crisis leaves us traces everywhere. empty classrooms become the norm. children pay for the mistakes of adults. by working in a tobacco fields or in the café. they are the ones who come back home blasts. so kids games are just in their memories. have been many changes to the public school system in the last few years but cutesy classes like math are still com students with disciplinary issues may be punished but in many cases the root causes are not address often these problems escalate to violence. and sometimes their resume after school where there's greater access to weapons. they grab a certain neighborhood make you feel like you need something to protect yourself and you know if this is not going to take you to the state because you came points above all no fighting wants i mean this is my fight and in school

i don't think you'll hear george w. bush making a statement like that. but dick cheney has a different agenda. first of all, his daughter is run fog are the senate in wyoming as a tea party candidate, rather absurdly, since she's basically from the beltway. and dick cheney is trying to help her out by appealing to the tea party worst. i think that's what's going on, number one. number two i think republicans more generally, chris, have always been infuriated by the high personal standarding of president barack obama. by him sz a candidate. by him as a president. by the fact that he has seen to many of his supporters and to most americans, to be an honest, straightforward, decent guy. and this somehow is especially infuriating to republicans. it drives them crazy, and they're doing everything they can now given the opportunity to try to drag him down to their level. and that's what dick cheney is up to. >> let me go to -- let me go to david on the same question, because i do think we can argue and we're going to do it here as we've done about the screw-up

it is way worse than bush and i am not a big fan of george w. bush ok and you could probably be co-hosting this program i guess i don't need to say very much definitely reflective of what we've heard from good ruby and from austin there there is no compare and contrast between either president whatsoever besides having a spending problem this president currently has spent and pulling the debt and deficits out of control more than all presidents combined however george w. bush did spend too much but his governing style foreign policy prowess taking a set of crisis and leadership style or night and day over what president obama's are. again if we take up your personal example of the government topping your followers and you know you see them later on to be years leader you know some governments cannot afford to do that not only you know again some prominent journalist at home so again some has a strange i remember thinking at the time and i discovered all this that if they were tapping my phone for this ocean in consequential the nation been tappi