we lost our own danny pearl in pakistan 12 years ago. these are long, ongoing conflicts they're dangerous to cover. and these reporters have been courageous in bringing out the story of what is going on in these regions and it's a very dynamic story now in iraq. and a very sad chapter tonight. >> the message in short, without giving specifics is if you keep bombing in iraq this, is going to happen to more people. you have to wonder if reality is that what the united states is doing for this moment in that place is working, and that isis is try toing make it stop. >> i think there is a probably a truth to that. there is consideration tonight in our writing that what the militants refer to as the u.s. bombing strikes have been very effective against them. the fact mosul dam was taken back from the militants, that a city was saved from what looked look militants moving into the area. the pentagon is wondering if they should do the same sort of strike in the anvar provence. who know what's the best thing to do is. if they're note stopping yo

we have seen that with other terrorists in pakistan and u.s. citizens, radicalized in u.s. prisons who have gong over to do u.s. training in yemen terror camps. this is a problem we have to have an honest conversation about it and one of the few networks is actually doing this. >> this is one area where an honest conversation will help, but some people don't want to have it. >>> just some quick housekeeping here, we want to remind you to check out bill o'reilly dhovm, it's actually named after bill o'reilly. the american documents sale will soon end, you can get replicas on parchment suitable for framing. i believe that's bill o'reilly's birth certificate. all the money bill o'reilly gets goes to charity. >>> a powerful pundit says the obama administration has now entered full meltdown mode. subtle perhaps, that pundit will be here to make his case. right back with it. ght's sleep. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite to help replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. ocuvite. help prote

pakistan, afghanistan, those kind of countries. now, the australian navy actually physically intercepts them. is that what they do? >> that's right, bill. the conservative government basically came in and said we are going to determine who comes into this country and circumstances under which they come. they got the military to sort it out. turning back the boats, which include towing back the boats. but most of all our prime minister got out, bill, and said if you come to australia the wrong way, if you come to australia illegally, you will never get to stay, you will never get to live in australia, you you will never get to be? australia. >> once you get in if you didn't get in legally you will deported no matter what your circumstances? >> basically when the conservative government got in because we had such a a terrible mess, they couldn't wave the magic wand and stop the boats immediately, for the first few months some boats kept coming and the people that arrived were told you have come to australia illegally. therefore, we d

islamic state goes across that like others went across pakistan and afghanistan we're working with a blind fold >> you're right, shep but have you to look at facts as they are. then, start dealing with them, right? how do you take territory away from isis? partner with kurds. that is what we're doing now. it's the right thing to do. providing air support, making sure infrastructure is protected and giving the population a reason to believe nonmilitant population a reason to believe if they side with nonjihadists they're going to come out on this. at some point you're going to have to accept the sunni-shia divide. what you have to decide is look at syria and say assad versus isis. which are we with going to be with? >> mike, thanks, appreciate it. >> thanks, jim, >> ferguson, missouri tonight. protestors hit the streets. temperatures in the 90s heat warnings for the rest of the week. thunder clouds started to drop rain on demonstrators cleaning the streets, perhaps cooling temperatures but what about attitudes? we have team fox coverage, next. late night live from the fox news channel