>> we will keep having you on, malcolm in answ malcolm nance. thank you for interrupting your business trip to have us on. we are joined now by a credible democrat who is second in line. among the democrats in the house select committee on intelligence. in other words, he's among the members of congress who share in the nation's secrets, especially where an intelligence breach is concerned. congressman, what do you think is going on here, and what do you think should be done about it? >> well, good evening, brian. look, there are things of profound concern going on that i would agree with malcolm should have all of us behind an independent investigatory commission here, something along the lines of 9/11. what is clear, and what everybody should be acknowledging, is that there was hacking of the election of organizations like the dnc, people surrounding the election. i think we will learn, as information comes out, that there were actually other entities and people that were subject to this hacking. it is a little less clear, and here i might be

john walsh, malcolm pierce, joan walsh. you have the russian election now now -- interference in the election, the fbi new this and covered it up. now we find out that donald trump's favorite candidate for secretary of state just happens to be the guy given the order of friendship medal by vladimir putin. i don't even know what to say is so i'm going to let you talk. >> if tillerson is the person. it's interesting, tillerson went through the backdoor of trump tower, romney had a number of very public appearances to get people riled up and talking about that, but it seemed that something else was really on the front burner. but i think it underscores the importance of knowing exactly what the russian role was in this election before tillerson is confirmed, before his hearings, so he can be questioned about his relationship with vladimir putin, about his relationship with russia, this is someone with a lot of experience talking to leaders around the world, including russian leaders, but how can we cut a deal -- it's not someo

malcolm, you have had a couple of days to think about this. where and how do you describe what we believe have just happened. >> i am glad you asked that question because a hacking is the least of what's happened here. i describe this on july 25th right here on nbc where we are sitting and the dnc, what has happened is the united states was attacked in a very large scale cyber warfare operation perpetrated by russia intelligence at the direction of the leader and former director of russian kgb. >> how long do we have a full damage assessment and what do we do about it? >> well, the damage accessessme maybe out there and can get much fuller as time passes. >> when i started my book in that very same day in july, it was delivered on september 23rd, the precise day that the cia did the exact same thing, only at the top secret level with much more information. that information was briefed to congress and by the president. this information has been out there for some time. the only thing that's done now is they can go much deeper and u.s. cyber com

. >> first we need to congratulate malcolm for being ahead of the curve on this. there have been lots of calls on capitol hill, but some republicans in the last few days started joining in for an a public inquiry, investigation of what's gone on. it's quite clear that the cia, fbi and nsa have been looking into this for quite some time. we just didn't know what they had found. although they did say in october that there were indications russia was behind the hacking. but there were a lot of reports that russia was just messing around to mess around and make things uncertain. i'm not sure if it's a report, it's an assessment that russia was doing this purposefully to put trump in the white house. and almost more explosive, i think this is bigger than watergate now. and just as explosive is the telling of its story, that during the campaign obama went to congress, and he tried to get republicans and democrats to join with him in calling out russia for hacking dnc and messing around to make a difference in this election, and mitch mcconnell and another republican or

malcolm, just give us your reaction to the events of the day in both germany and turkey. >> well, the first thing that comes to mind for me, and i know i have a completely different way of viewing things is were these two events coordinated in any way, shape or form. first we have the assassination in ankara. clearly visible. the officer had planned this and made his way into that location and took a very public way of assassinating this individual and had a very solid political bent. it was about aleppo. it was about the suffering that he believed that he perceived inside of syria. i no know traveling the muslim world, it is a very, very highly emotional thing to see children killed in syria. and most people seem to forget, turkey is a muslim nation. so they have people who feel the same way that iraqis, saudis all feel when they see these murders. on the other hand, we have berlin, which if it is an attack had to be a highly-coordinated attack for an individual. we call these suicide vehicle as weapons attacks, as they seize a vehicle and use it as a weapon system. israel's had over

malcolm and i spent much of the amp watching the president's speech together. so you're the new guy for me today. give me your assessment of the fbi, you worked with the fbi, their very late sort of come-to-jesus moment on russian hacking. >> first of all, joy, i sort of feel like watching the president's speech, i felt heroic it was that guy who's just given two weeks' notice at work, he's checking in, but he's not going to do much. it was pretty uninspiring. inso much as the fbi, there are sources that the fbi has, they're probably sharing that. the good news is i feel that by the president saying this is russia, even though the public may not see this, this is actually going to have an impact on the russian's ability to collect intelligence. i think that just by saying, hey, we know, russia, what your sources and methods to do this, essential you're saying those sources and methods are burned. and now russia has got to rebuild that. there is that silver lining to it. but beyond that, i kind of have to say, i feel a little rudderless here. >> what would you h

that's why we affectionately call malcolm nantz around here the scariest man in america. merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas to you. >>> another break for us. >>> coming up, he famously said donald trump would be the healthiest person ever elected president. is well, what trump's doctors is saying now as "the 11th hour" continues. these birds once affected by oil are heading back home. thanks to dawn, rescue workers only trust dawn, because it's tough on grease yet gentle. i am home, i am home, i am home >>> two quick things before we go tonight, first, an indication the presidency is about to become real -- a report today confirmed by our nbc station here in new york that a military transport plane and two helicopters spotted over this city over a week ago were on a dry run for a potential rescue mission if the president, while at trump tower in new york, needed to be extracted by air during a local or national emergency. the aircraft understandably attracted a lot of attention in the skies over new york and there was no advance warning of the drill. the explanati

we were talking about -- i used the word corrupted, malcolm nan's theory that trump has been electronically or ideologically compromised by another country. we've certainly seen electronics compromised by the russians. add to everything we've heard from donald trump this theory that it's the richard nixon's design which can be a favor in that it excuses any number of -- >> of inconsistencies, of statements that might provoke. this is a nixon theory. basically the nixon administration and henry kissinger and nixon felt that if the north koreans thought that he was a madman that he had a hot temper, they were more likely to come to the negotiating table to find peace and now the "washington post" is saying potentially donald trump is going by this theory as well. it's a pretty generous favor there in some ways to donald trump, basically painting his inconsistent statements with a broad brush and saying maybe this could be donald trump being unpredictable and what does this do? this could unsettle other foreign powers and make them come to the negotiating table even more because they don't kno

that's why we affectionately call malcolm nantz around here the scariest man in america. merry christmas to you. >> merry christmas to you. >>> another break for us. >>> coming up, he famously said donald trump would be the healthiest person ever elected president. is well, what trump's doctors is saying now as "the 11th hour" continues. [ gears stopping ] when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. try this. but just one aleve has the strength to stop pain for 12 hours. tylenol and advil can quit after 6. so live your whole day, not part... with 12 hour aleve. listen up. etes. we're not professional athletes... but that doesn't mean we're giving up. i'm in this for me. for me. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes, lowering a1c by up to 1.2 points. do not take if allergic to farxiga. if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction such as rash, swelling, difficulty breathing or swallowing, stop taking and seek medical help right away. do not take farxiga if you have severe kidney problems,

let's now bring in congressman gregory meeks, democrat from new york, and malcolm nance, msnbc terrorism analyst and author of "defeating isis: who they are, how they fight, what they believe." thank you both. i'm going to defer first to the congressman here. one of the things that's striking about the way that donald trump reacted to this in sharp contrast to the way that president obama did and that presidents typically do is president obama, and i won't take credit for this original thought, i think it was an ian brem piece in "time," he said, we will stand behind the german people. trump's statement was all about christians versus islam. and used the magic words they wanted to use, radical islamic terrorism, because they think that will somehow fight terrorism. how does it strike you as someone who sits on the relevant committees, that approach to responding to an attack, that we don't even know who did it? >> the approach is exactly the wrong approach. words do matter and the fact that he goes out there without, apparently, having his intelligence briefings or anything of that natur

malcolm? >> well, i think it's absolutely disgraceful. i mean, if the election hadn't occurred, it would be disqualifying. but we've been using that word a lot. i have three friends on the wall at the cia. i have six who i've worked with at nsa's wall, on the wall of those who have lost their lives in the defense of this nation. there are tens of thousands of good people, men and women, working 24/7, 365 to defend this nation and he discards them, because he thinks he knows better. right now what we feed to know is why does this man's policy track with the kremlin. why does this man's policy seem dismissive of 70 years of america's defense policies and strategies? why does this man seem to have foreknowledge of intelligence operations which have occurred with the acquiescence or the direction of the kremlin? this requires investigation. and believe me, i certainly hope that we get to the bottom of it. >> let me go to senator coons. senator coons, when you're dealing with bureaucrats, people who work for the country that are nonpartisan, t

malcolm and jennifer will be back. still to come, cabinet chaos and black santa. more "a.m. joy" after the break. . you're smart. you already knew that. but it's also great for finding the perfect used car. you'll see what a fair price is, and you can connect with a truecar certified dealer. now you're even smarter. this is truecar. you >> that plays great before the election. now we don't care, right? that was a bernie fan. the election ended three weeks ago. hey, i don't know your vote anymore, but i'm telling you i'm very good at that. >> welcome back to "a.m. joy." if you need more proof that donald trump now that he has been elected is particularly -- has a particular predilection for mocking his own supporters, can keep tuning into trump thank-you tours or take a look at his cabinet picks. when it comes to his labor secretary pick, fast food ceo andy pudzer trump fans are not amused. soon after the nomination news broke on thursday breitbart publicly aired its grievances with an article titled "trump expected to tap labor secretary who prefers foreign labor to american

malcolm nance, executive director of the terror asemetrics project. the fact the man is from tunisia, does that make it any more likely? >> well, it looks like the work of isis but the question is is is it an isis directed attack, where they provided superior support to him, communications, support, logistics and other on the ground information. or even may have infiltrated him into germany. or is it an isis inspired attack. it could also be inspired by al qaeda. at this point, we don't know. some of the things we do know are isis has been pushing for other jihadis and their sympathizers to carry out these attacks in europe. tunisia is the largest body of people who came from their country and joined isis when they started their caliphate in 2014. that combined with the fact this individual may actually have carried out a murder of the actually loree driver, the truck driver, before taking control of that vehicle. as we said over the last couple of days, that vehicle is very sophisticated to drive. it has multiple gear, up to 12 gears. this is not a v

so, you know, malcolm unpack that for people at home. we heard about putin has a big break in the story yesterday. but the implication there being that what was new to us may have been old for the nominees based on the briefings they got in the summer >>well, that's new information to me, too. and outstanding job by nbc investigative. you know, so he was -- he was given in his first intelligence briefing information that showed the united states intelligence community had high confidence. and we killed people with high confidence with drones, by the way, almost 100% of the time. so high confidence that this hack was directly linked to moscow and it was the cia who took it a step further doing a proper analysis exactly as i had done with my book, and showed there had to have been a benefit to someone -- it wasn't just a chaos operation. putin endorsed trump as far back as december 2015 and they were inside the dnc's computers for almost six months before that. and so as he went through the nomination process, russia seemed confident in hi

malcolm nans, and nina, professor of international affairs and associate dean at the news school. good morning. malcolm, we've learned that at least one of these three new people taken into custody was communicating with amri through the telegram act. that's the same app the paris attackers used. >> they're very hard to break, especially ones like telegram. they often have point to point encryption. that means unless you have that phone and you take that phone and you can break it out, that communication cannot be intercepted, and that's very difficult. some of the other apps disappear at the end of the communication. so you have no record of what's left there. isis prefers and isis supporters prefer the telegram act because of the encryption and the nonpersistence of the record of the communications you have. that means you have to be monitoring that individual almost realtime in order to get any information out of it. >> that seems not impossible but if you think about the people trying to monitor, and can you talk about the kind of intelligence they're hoping to get from the pe

joining me to sort this out is malcolm nance, executive director of terror asymmetrics project. also the author of "the plot to hack america." thank you for being with me today. >> good morning. good to be here. >> let's focus on the vermont utility. what do we know about this grizzly steppe operation. >> it is the code name given by the u.s. intelligence community for tracking the activities related to the hacking and other russian cyberwarfare operations. so it is not unusual for us to give it a name so that across platforms we know what we're talking about. however, what they did notice is that through this vermont utility, they would have had access to the u.s. electric grid, and russian intelligence before has actually shut down power grids of other nations. georgia -- i'm sorry, ukraine, most notably a year and a half agoes whe ago where they seized power plants cutting down electric for hundreds of thousands of people. this is disturbing. even though the actual code may not have been in the grid software, it is close enough to where somebody could inadvertently put it ins

we have a former fbi operative, malcolm nans, and an associate dean. nina, let me begin with you. big news. trump says, let it be an arms race. how worried should we be about that? >> well, we can be very worried about it, because trump says a lot of things. at the same time, as his team after that tweet tried to explain to us, this is just he generally means that the united states needs to strengthen its military capacity, because everybody else does the same. so we could be very worried. it could not be worried. i think the worry comes from the fact that first of all, vladimir putin certainly doesn't take those kind of threats or information lightly, and he already went onto say it doesn't surprise him, and russia, in fact, has been increasing its military capability and nuclear capability all throughout the years that putin has been in power. so it is possible that we are facing the new arms race, aka, dr. strangelove coming back from '64 to 2016, but it's also possible this is just donald trump's bluster. we cannot forget the rest of the world is watching, and if trump is thre

. >>> for more, malcolm nance, terrorism analyst. there is the key question a lot of people are asking. how do you travel more than 600 miles from berlin to milan. what questions do you have this morning? >> it's a lot easier than it might appear. europe is more like the united states with state borders and no one is protecting them. it goes to when the attacker carried this out. to everyone in the counter terrorism world we thought that time and the day was rather strange. it may appear he carried out the attack with a train ticket. high speed trains from germany. when you go to france you're on the tvg. in eight hours and 28 minutes you are in paris. if he carried out an attack at 8:00 and could be on a train k59 before the germans would know to put the national security ring of steel around the airports and train station. he could be crossing the border to mets and to paris. >> absolutely. it's a quick change to a train. i have taken them from paris east station right to milan. we'll get to milan by morning. >> okay. just like in

we'll have more in a hearing but malcolm, the tweet that the president-elect sent out referred to these people being those who brought up weapons of mass destruction. i mean, it's not as if these intelligence officials or the cia is above criticism, right? isn't any agency open to criticism? >> yes. we're all open to criticism, okay, but what i am hearing here is an ignorant person commenting on matters of the highest level of national security to this nation, and dismissing all of their work before he ever even considers looking at what they do on a day-to-day basis. he considers himself smarter than the entire u.s. intelligence community. there are intelligence watch officers right now watching this program all around the world smacking their heads in dismay that they have to work for this person who will ignore possibly the intelligence that keeps a 9/11 style attack from occurring somewhere in the world against the u.s. interests. >> let me bring you in on this. this is not just donald trump. i want to play what former u.n. ambassador john bolton, controversial figure. here's what h

no, i don't think malcolm is absolutely right. that clearly, you know, the oligarch model that emerged with putin is something that i think donald trump was fascinated by, and clearly wanted to emulate. so while i don't know if there is a direct correlation to say that putin is actually running or controlling him as a puppet, i think that donald trump was clearly enamored with the wealth -- putin is the wealthiest man in the world, by far. i think the simple wealth that emerged of the oligarchs are something that donald trump really wanted to get a taste of, and i think that as a result, is very possible as malcolm is suggesting that his ideology shifted, not so much in terms of communism or pro russiaism, but this concept of what can i could to become an oligarch. and i think i'm not so sure that trump thought he was going to win the election. but he clearly looked at this and said, even if i don't win there is a way toin grash ate myself with the russians. >> same thing to you, sara. is he emulating trump, putin or trying to bec

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i want to bring in terrorism analyst malcolm nance. executive director of the terror asume asymmetrics project. this berlin attacker story is extraordinary. and the more we learn about this suspect, i mean, had six aliases, clearly a person of interest. a criminal history, should have been deported. what in the world was he still doing there? >> well, you have to understand, you know, each of these european nations, they're entirely separate and sovereign states. and so once you're in there, i mean, this guy came through italy, which is a common portal for people coming from north africa. >> really -- i mean, tunisia, those are next door neighbors. >> absolutely. and it lael just pushes these people out, often to france and to germany without documentation. and they're allowed to do that because they are a sovereign nation. once he comes into germany and he came into the -- and applied for asylum, coming through netherlands, he came from the border of the netherlands, then he came into the european union system, which allowed him to ap

i'm joined now to be a bit of a deep dive into the russian cyberattacks by msnbc's terrorism analyst malcolm nance. thank you for being with me this morning. you have called this russian hacking during our election, you have called it watergate. have we not made enough of a big deal about what potentially happened here? >> well, you're absolutely right. actually, i called it watergate 2.0 because the first watergate under richard nixon, he sent in burglars to break into the dnc to put wire taps in and steal folders. they were not successful. they were caught by a policeman. this watergate 2.0 was done by russian intelligence, they broke into the dnc, took everything over a period of a year, including the opposition folders on donald trump, and selectively made those materials public in order to damage hillary clinton and elect donald trump. so that's the difference. we are very vulnerable to this. this was a national level cyberattack on the electoral infrastructure of america. >> moving forward, what more do we need to be doing that we're not? what more can we do? >> well, you know, during

malcolm, good to have you with us. always a pleasure to talk to you. let me first play you a sound bite from december 16th. take a listen to this. i'll get your reaction to it on the back end. >> our goal conti to be to send a clear message to russia or others not to do this to us, because we can do stuff to you. but it is also important for us to do in that in a thoughtful, methodical way. some of it we will do publicly, some in a way that they will know, but not everyone will. >> on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the most severe thing we could have done, where does what we saw today rank on that scale? >> pretty much, this ranks somewhere from the 1 to 2 on a scale line. >> that's pretty low. >> yeah, it's pretty low. placing sanctions against russian intelligence, the fsb and the gru is almost a nonstarter for the most part. but going after the individuals and putting them on that sanctions list, essentially, is a -- gives us the latitude to essentially sanction the kremlin to a certain extent. the key question here is, will this last past 20 days? wi

trump's, malcolm? >> i think it's absolutely disgrace fu disgraceful. it would be disqualifying, but we've used that word a lot. i have six i've worked with on nsa's wall of those who have lost their lives in the defense of this nation. there are tens of thousands of good people, men and women working 24/7, 365, to defend this nation and he discards them because he thinks he knows better. right now what we need to know is why does this man's policy track with the kremlin? why does this man's policy seem dismiss sie dismissive of 70 years of american defense policies and strategies? why does this man seem to have poor knowledge of intelligence operations which have occurred with the acquiescence or the direction of the kremlin? this requires investigation, and believe me, i certainly hope we get to the bottom of it. >> thank you, senator chris kuntz, greg miller and alfred mann. >>> what do they want from him? this is "hardball," the place for politics. diabetes can be a daily struggle, even if you're trying your best. along with diet and exercise, once-

that he'll fight to reclaim and it's not clear what trump is saying, safe zones from who exactly. >> malcolm into, that the idea that the united states would have to have on-the-ground participation in that, does that you as a form er military professional, does that is make sense now. >> you know who is going choke on that strategy the most, the soldiers and sailors of the special operations and the central intelligence officers who have spent nearly the last decade trying to arm and equip and prepare these rebels to protect their people away from the assad government. knowing donald trump, based on what he said, we don't know what his strategy s.i don't think he knows what the strategy, is but knowing what he thinks about putin and russia and his strategy from the beginning of let's just give syria to russia to resolve, these safe zones are going to be done exactly like putin did it in chechnya. mass murder, all resistance, destroy their infrastructure, create refugee settlements which will be patrolled and protected by the national government, syrian army and hezbollah and call them safe

author of that vice news article jason leopold is back and joining me now is malcolm nance, author of "the plot to hack america" and the author of "how to catch a russian spy." thank you all for being here. if the fbi is going to break from long standing precedent it cannot do so for one presidential candidate and not the other. i believe this approach has done great harm to the public's trust and isn't that part of the point here, that the fbi went out its way to do something very unusual which was 11 days out and then three days out to comment on its investigations regarding hillary clinton but has refused to do so regarding donald trump. >> yeah, the comey letter was an odd twist and clearly i'm not a political analyst but i would say it's safe to say from layman's terms had a pretty dramatic impact on the elections. just the language the fbi has used. look, before i wrote my book i was involved in a counterintelligence operation with the fbi and i would tell people i was involved in a successful counterintelligence operation with a successful outcome which told you nothing and the

let me turn to malcolm, a terrorism analyst and executive director of the terror project. germany believes there is russian interfere and italy. it led to the resignation of a pro eu style of leader that led to his resignation and we heard about brexit and our election here in the united states. how confident are you that this is a plot to disrupt democracy? >> despite the fact that i wrote a book called the plot to hack america that out lined how russia carried out these cyber operations as part of their global hybrid military warfare. they call them military operations or they compromise a political system in their interest. the russians have not only done this for the united states in the last year, they have done it against the ukraine and a stonia, georgia, lat via. we know they hacked german parliament a year ago with the same hacker mal wear and systems of russian intelligence that they hacked the dnc with. this is a large scale operation on russia's side. they view it as a way to balance out their weak economic policies by gaping information against people and putt

i'm joined my malcolm nance. executive director of the terror a symmetrics project. we're talking about them being terrorist attacks. we just heard from richard engel who was pouring of investigation files, where do they go to find out where the attacks originated from? >> well, certainly, i always like to start with the individual who carried out the attack. in germany, we may not actually have the perpetrator. and i'm sure law enforcement will go back and tear that truck apart and use internal gps, and every traffic camera from poland to berlin. to determine when did they exchange from the driver to the other person who car rayed out the attack if it was the attack. now in turkey, that is completely different. we have the individual, he was killed soon after the assassination, but going back and figuring out what his ideology was. was he a member of a crazy kal islamic group, or was he just a turk who was just extraordinarily disturbed by the or ri horrific images of aleppo and that radicalized him. they are working very hard, that may not play out very well on the

to malcolm's point, he is not going to do that. if there is an operation under way to retaliate, we don't want to announce that in a press conference. you wouldn't. this president's job, part of the job of president is to protect and defend the institutions of the federal government and the integrity of the institutions that hold up the united states. the president can't come out and throw bombs at vladimir putin in an open press conference or attacking the next president of the united states in a press conference. that is not what he is supposed to do. he did what he should. the subtle cues i got were that yes, russia did it and there will be a response to it and yes the institutions did fail. there was criticism of hillary clinton, but the overall impact of what he did today was for me to say he will do his best to protect the institutions and i think the institutions are very much damaged by this. >> sorry for the hurt feelings that the president didn't share the package of response with the american people. someone is familiar

and on the nba court last night milwaukee rookie malcolm with some impressive moves against the cavs first warming up with dunks over cleveland's kyrie irving and later blowing by the king himself lebron james with a reverse moving slam but the veteran james prevailed in overtime seeking a go-ahead three pointer with 24 seconds left in the extra period. matching a season-high with five triples in the game. the cavs hang on for the 114-1808 win. now, louis, this guy was such a great guy. a sober moment in sports yesterday, as loved ones gathered in marietta, georgia, at a memorial celebration for truly legendary sports caster craig sager one of the nicest men in the business you'd ever want to meet. he died last week at age 65 off a long, courageous battle with cancer. among those in attendance was spurs coach greg popovich along with many of the athletes sager covered during his career. also members of the turner sports tv family including ernie johnson jr. who recited a touching poem about his late colleague. >> so amid the tears and all the memories we cherish now, we saw farewell

offensive touchdowns and one-yard rush by legarrette blount followed by a sic-yard strike from tom brady to malcolm mitchell that gives new england a 16-0 lead. baltimore picks up some steam at the end of the second quarter after intercepting brady at the goal line. just the second pick thrown by brady all season long. they head to the break with three points on the board. while the patriots offensive machine continued to roll in the second half, new england turned over back-to-back fumbles on special teams. they led to baltimore touchdowns. the ravens coming within three points of patriots midway through the fourth quarter but new england has a big answer. brady connecting on a 79-yard pass to chris hogan. a third touchdown for brady to go along with his 406 yards through the air. the patriots improve to 11-2 after the 30-23 win. >>> regardless of the loss, it was an especially somber night in the ravens' locker room with the news of former baltimore tight end colin ruin's death, passed away in california last night. he had been fighting for his life after suffering a brain aneurysm on november th

and as malcolm nance said, this is a state of what we're most likely going to retaliate against the russians covertly as well as what we've just done publicly, and this is an area where there are no rules, no norms, not like nuclear weapons, where you had mutually assured destruction and deterrents. this is something that is an entirely new arena for whacking at each other and that is now out of the bag and very hard to put back. so we're at the beginning of a new track. so i'll just add that to date of -- david. >> what retaliation would you expect? >> they'll probably go after some of our diplomats as well. they will seek to expel probably 35 diplomats and accuse them of being intelligence officials. they may seek to restrict access to consulates or other facilities. in terms of sanctions, i expect them to attempt to restrict access from the united states to russian markets. they've done that with respect to turkey, after the shoot-down of the jet fighter this spring, with respect to the european union. the problem for the russians, they don't have a whole lot of opportunity here unless th

touchdown to cap their first drive of the game and eli manning pass is intercepted by eagles safety malcolm jenkins who returns it 34 yards to the end zone. philly puts together one more touchdown scoring drive before heading to halftime with a 21-13 lead. where the giants have been resilient this season, things did not get much better for them in the second half. manning with another two interceptions in the fourth quarter. first by jenkins who had his numbers for the second time of the game and with 14 seconds left in the clock manning's end zone attempt on third down is picked off, sealing the eagles 24-19 victory. it hands the cowboys the nfc east title along with home field advantage throughout the conference playoffs while new york holds the top wild card position heading into next week's regular season finale against the redskins. they can still get into the postseason this weekend with a loss by the lions, the packers, the buccaneers, or the falcons. pretty safe to say they'll probably get there. >>> duke guard grayson allen might end up on santa's naughty list. the blue devils have

. >> absolutely, as malcolm nance asks often, when did he adopt the ideology? that's a key question. when did he adopt this pro-russian ideology and hopefully we'll get more reporting on that over the next four years. david corn and jennifer ruben, thank you so much. >> thank you, joy. >> thank you. >>> up next, state electors met today across the u.s. to cast their votes for president. and despite some protests, trump did, with indeed, pass the 270 threshold. the roundtable is coming here next. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. crest complete presents sugar shield sugar is everywhere and crest complete has a sugar shield to protect teeth from sugar found in everyday foods. crest complete. shield your teeth from sugar. so sugar may visit, but it's not sticking around my hygienist told me to try... ...a mouthwash. so i tried crest. it does so much more than give me fresh breath. crest pro-health mouthwash provides all of these benefits to help you get better dental check-ups. go pro with... ...crest pro-health mouthwash. checkup? nailed it. ♪

. >> malcolm, talk about what conflicts of interests this might present. >> a myriad of conflicts of interest. he represented exxon mobil in russia and their development. to we want a secretary of state who is going to be working hand in hand first and foremost for the u.s. and russian petrochemical industries, but most importantly, he has a very deep relationship with vladimir putin that extends back to when putin was the director of the fsb, which is the modified version of the kgb, and as my compatriot said a moment ago this is going to raise great questions in front of congress. does this person who speaks very highly of putin, who has got the order of friendship from russia, will he accurately represent the interests of the united states first or will he still be part of that kabal from the kremlin that donald trump appears to have assembled in his cabinet. >> let's take this a step further. nahal you have calls from hacking and republicans like lindsey graham and john mccain. how will the investigations affect relations with russia going forward and to this next administration?