i live here in hawaii, and what she said does not reflect and embody what the people of hawaii sent her to washington, d.c., to do. >> do you think that clinton's attack was fair and/or factual. >> i think we need to look at exactly what secretary clinton said and as someone who was the 2016 presidential nominee knows firsthand how the russians influenced the outcome of the election, and we know how russian state media and their propaganda machine did everything they could to influence the outcome, i think that's what she was referring to, we know that they are looking to prop up third party candidates and clearly congresswoman gabbard is their preferred favorite. >> tulsi gabbard has stead she's not going to be a third party candidate. do you take her at her word? >> you know, it's hard to know what congresswoman gabbard is doing, she changes her position every day, i think as we -- every day goes on, we see erratic behavior, whether it's attacking the media, her colleagues, suing google for $50 million or threatening to boycott the debate, it's disappointing and i think she's lost her

senator of the hawaii. for more on the impeachment inquiry. i want to bring in who covered the clinton impeachment hearings. and tell us what was going on. and chris lieu. he was deputy chief counsel to the house oversight committee. you can shed a great deal of light on what's going upon. right now. let's start with you. lindsey graham talked about how things look in the clinton impeachment. and how much fairer they were. you remember those days. >> there was this was in the dawn of the right wing conspiracy. which was the dawn of the talk show era. and you had a robust discussion that bill clinton did wrong no matter what. there was pressure there. what you never had from the clinton white house was a sense of saying that this is unconstitutional inquiry. it might have been wrong or might have been disputed facts and fought bag. sure in a calculate td way. they had a people desind to take inquiries on impeachment. they had people who every day trying to get reporters to strike stories. they had documents. the essence of the inquiry even thou

only democrat singling out gabbard because she also faced a tough primary challenge for her seat in hawaii. she's going all in on the presidential primary where things are changing. >> do you consider yourself a front runner? >> i know on the front runner. >> according to most polls, that's right. by one of the metric, he may not be -- we spoke to a vendor who sells campaign shirts and buttons to outside candidate events across the country who told us that biden merchandise barely moves and the only two on the democratic side really selling right now are warren and mayor pete. >> bret: peter doocy in iowa tonight. the federal deficit for the 2019 budget year has surged to $984.4 million. that is its highest point in seven years. the government is reporting a 26-point increase. the congressional budget office projects the deficit will top $1 trillion in the current budget year and the cbo estimates it will stay over 1 trillion in the next decade. solid earnings drove stocks up today, the dow gained 152 and a half, the s&p 500 finished at 12, the nasdaq rose 57. for the week, the dow was up

. >>> joining me now is democratic senator mazie hirono of hawaii. senator, what is your reaction to the testimony from bill taylor? he gave an opening statement we obtained and he said that he was told that president trump wanted a public commitment from the president of ukraine, that ukraine would conduct these investigations into matters that the president wanted investigated, that would help him politically such as into the bidens, et cetera, in exchange -- directly in exchange for military aid for ukraine. what is your reaction? >> apparently mr. taylor took really accurate and extensive notes. and his testimony from what i've read as to the context -- content of his testimony is that he corroborated and provided context what the president when he said to the ukrainian president i would like a favor though. >> one of your democratic colleagues today called taylor's testimony, a quote, sea change. do you think that is true when it comes to republicans? >> i'm not exactly holding my breath because they are still busy trying to defend the president

mulvaney said a dozen locations were vetted including one hawaii and two in utah, but denied to say how doral was picked. >> it was almost like they built this facility to host this type of event. i don't talk about how this place runs on the inside. so if you see our paper on how we did this, the answer is absolutely not. >> mulvaney argued that the summit would be at cost and said the president would not profit from the event. "the washington post" reports, quote, that decision is without pres dependent in modern american history. the president used his public office to direct a huge contract to himself. it adds the resort quote has been in sharp decline in recent years according to the trump resort's own recent records. two house committees, oversight and judiciary have already demanded information about efforts to steer government business to the president's resorts. the choice of doral brought widespread condemnation from democrats and some republicans. here republican congressman adam kinzinger of illinois. >> i actually read the emoluments clause yesterday. i don't know if it's a

reporter: mulvaney said staffers started with a list of a dozen or so potential summit sites, from hawaii to michigan to florida and that it was trump himself who proposed the doral. >> we sat around one night, we were back in the dining room and he goes, what about doral? that's not the craziest idea. it makes perfect sense. >> reporter: the doral is an 800-acre resort. it is reportedly struggling to be profitable. the president made a personal pitch at the last g7 summit in france in august. >> with doral, we have a series of magnificent buildings, we call them bungalows. we have incredible conference rooms, incredible restaurants. it's like -- it's like such a natural. >> reporter: mulvaney claims the doral summit will save taxpayers millions of dollars. >> he's not making any money off of this, just like he's not making any money from working here. >> reporter: but the decision has ethics watchdogs and democrats outraged. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler calling the move "among the most brazen examples yet of the president's corruption." mick mulvaney claimed the president isn't

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. >> desjardins: hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard took a different approach. >> we stand united to equality and justice for all. >> desjardins: gabbard, who has dalified for the next debate, did not mention president trump by name, instead criticizing corporate greed and calling for a broader community spirit. >> as your president, i am seeking to bring these values of service above self to the white house to restore the principless of integrity and honor and respect. back to the white house to make sure that our white house is once again a beacon of light and hope and opportunity for every single person in ts country. >> desjardins: not on stage were the three poll leaders in the primary race, former vice president joe biden, massachusetts senator elizabeth warren, and vermont senator bernie sanders. >> desjardins: sanders was recovering after suffering a heart attack late last week. >> how are you feeling senator? in the meantime, sanders is rolling out new policy ideas, today tackling corporate influence. if nominated and elected, sanders pledged to ban corporate donations from

clinton didn't name gabbard but when asked if she was, in fact, referring to the hawaii congresswoman her spokesman said, if the nesting doll fits -- he spokesman then said the initial grooming comment referred to republicans, not russia. gabbard again denied she would launch a third-party run last night. my next guest is the other person, that secretary clinton mentioned in that interview calling her quote/unquote totally a russian asset. former green party presidential candidate dr. jill stein. dr. stein, i went to merriam-webster looked up asset to be sure. what it says. something useful if an effort to foil or defeat an enemy such as a piece of military equipment or a spy. are you a russian spy? >> no, i am not a russian spy. i think this is a completely unhinged conspiracy theory for which there is absolutely no basis in fact. not for myself and not for tulsi gabbard. i think it's really outrageous that hillary clinton is trying to promote this crazy idea. you know, you can't just slander people. you have to present some basis and fact. tulsi has said that she is dedicated to run

but i have to say, probably now, among my favorites of her films is hawaii. i think her performance in it is so different than many of her other films, they're so strong. >> americanization of emily, one of your favorites. >> it's the virtue of it, not war. it's the valor and self-sacrifice and the goodness of war that needs exposing. i s a very timely theme, more than ever maybe, about the folly and excess of war and the edlessness of it. >> reporter: writing about your early days involved, you tab talked abouhe tontrast and the glamorous appearance oft life in the ne and the shabby reality of it backstage. >> yes. snoo and you give us examples in your movie-making particularly of the wonderfully opening scene of sound of music. the camera discovered you on a mountainto ♪ the hills are alive with the sound of music ♪ >> yes, but, actually, being photographed by a cameraman hanging from the side of a helicopter, i kept being dashed to the ground by the down draft from the jet engines. but every ti i came up with grass and hay all over me. ♪ the hills fi

the hawaii congresswoman with accusations leveled against her in the past. experts say gabbard has been covered more by certain russia propaganda arms and moments of her campaign trumpeted by bots and trolls on twitter that have tied to russia. gaddard vociferously denied claims on the debate stage earlier this week, called them smears and notably on cnn ruled out a third party challenge. take a listen to what hillary clinton had to say about gabbard and stein in this podcast interview. >> they're also going to do third party, and i'm not making any predictions, but i think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the democratic primary, and are grooming her to be the third party candidate. she's a favorite of the russians. they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far. i will guarantee they'll have a vigorous third party challenge in the key states that they most need it. >> ana, obviously this matters to hillary clinton because she feels stein hurt her in key states she lost in 2016. that that could happen again in

. >> now when asked if clint was referring to tulsi gabbard, democrat of hawaii, a spokesperson said if the nesting doll fits, he added quote, in the russian propaganda machine and state media and bot is aligned with their interests, that is a reality. it is not speculation. nia, just because they have -- she has views that might align with russia on some matters, including syria for example, is that really responsible for hillary clinton to say she's a russian asset like out of the movie "red sparrow". >> and it is off the social media and the twitter-verse because this is what you hear. if you are on twitter, this is a lot of the conversation around tulsi gabbard from many democrats who do see that she or feel like she is a spoiler in this race and that her views align with russia in many ways. but it is. it is surprise coming from hillary clinton in many ways. but again, she went through this in 2016. i think part of her strategy here is to say, there are always things that could be going on in this election that we didn't pay attention to in 2016 and she sort of is raising a warn

back when he was going after obama he said i've got investigators in hawaii coming up with good stuff, all made up. now he seems to be wanting to setup here a line he can use that says the ukrainian government is now investigating joe biden son's relationship with the gas company. he wants that draft. so he's got giuliani over there, his fixer, writing the draft for the ukrainian government so that trump will have this document. he says they're over there investigating, this guy's a crook, just totally fabricating the reality. >> and writing the draft is key point there. we've probably covered a million g-7s or g-20s. in this particular case it was supposed to be a statement from ukraine, a press release or something like that, and you've got these american officials, u.s. officials some who worked for the government, another giuliani who's working directly for the president in a private capacity giving advice and sort of having editorial control over what ukraine government admits or puts out. >> and what the president thinks, giuliani started this poison pill. he was the one that st

baselessly smear an american veteran who served in the iraq war as a medic, and still serves in the hawaii army national guard as being groomed by vladimir putin, i mean, that's disgusting and absurd. >> i just always think to myself, this is what foreign governments want. when there's this kind of vitriol and venom in american politics. >> but that's -- sure, right? it helps our adversaries, but there's also this trend now on the left, of which i'm a part of the left, to smear anyone who dares tell the truth about, you know, ugliness that's happening in america or disagree with the sort of military industrial complex or bipartisan pro-war consensus, to smear those people as russian plants. it's happened to all sorts of people online. and that hillary clinton, someone that prominent, would take it to this level a presidential candidate, i think it's -- >> i think the truth is that tulsi gabbard does advance some of the same talking points that turkey wants to advance right now in syria. some of the same talking points that russia -- >> tulsi gabbard, president trump, they have in common. >

is this like him going down to hawaii to look for the real origins of president obama? is this o.j. looking for the real killer? how serious is this investigation? >> there's so many unknown here, but it is hard to separate the politics from this especially because william barr right at the time he was opening this investigation tasking john durham to run it -- >> there was an investigation of the president's campaign with russia. >> this was signed off by multiple people. judges have to continuously sign and renew fisa warrants which allow them to continue an investigation like this. they also have been going down roads we know that have been in conspiracy theories. none of that has teeth yet. i think the real potential damage from people i've spoken to is we're getting to this place where the justice department can be used as a retaliatory tool. say you're someone in the fbi or now being asked to do a campaign investigation, are you now going to have a fear especially if that's for a federal office, that person wins and then starts an investigation into you? that's not the way our

he snuck in from some weird thing in hawaii or kenya and everything, and this past week when i'm out with my operation i'm watching television and watching him speak at that minnesota rally and he said the only reason he became a vice president is he knew how to kiss barack obama's ass. you knew exactly what he was doing his audience. it was chillingly horrible. and now this. >> and when you're telling women of color elected in congress to go back to their countries, you're race baiting. >> whatever countries they might be. >> and the problem is historically, chris, it has not been a disqualifier to the majority of white voters. i do get a sense that is beginning to change where especially white college educated women they talk about what's going on in this country and the division and how this can't continue because of the future of their children. i'm beginning to get a sense white people finally are beginning to have some skin in the racism game. >> my advice growing up near the burbs it's a class thing, too. no one wants to be known as a racist. that's low brow. you're taught fro

administration sang it selected trump's resort after looking at 12 potential locations spanning from hawaii and california, eastward across the country all the way to north carolina. >> is not about me, it's about getting the right location. having at the miami is fantastic, really fantastic. having it at that particular place because of the way it's set up -- each country can have their own villa. >> the irony of hosting an event at a trump owned property at a time when the president has fiercely criticized primer vice resident biden was not lost on critics. house judiciary chairman jerry nadler accuse the president of exploiting his office and making official u.s. government decisions were his personal financial gain. democratic financial hopeful saying "this is corruption. if mulvaney rejected suggestions violated the emoluments clause because not only to the not make any money, it costs far less than any other available site. as with comparisons to the bidens, he quipped "there's no no profit here, there's one difference as you look between the trump family and the biden family, the tru

the president stayed at resorts in skod scotland and hawaii. overnight trips by members of the air force increase ds at the air force. attorney general barr had a party at the his hotel. the president plugged his charlottesville wipery in 2017 respondsing to the neo-nazi vienlts responding there three day earlier. despite the pattern his acting chief of staff says nothing to see here it's all on the up and up. >> we're going to do the 46th g-7 summit on june 10th through 12th at the trump national doral facility in miami. dorrell doral was far and away the best physical facility for this meeting. >> yeah. the president don't doesn't even hide what he is trying to do. listen to how he pitched his resort in august. >> with doral, we have a sears of magnificent buildings we call them bungalows, each hold from 50 to 70 luxurious rooms with magnificent views. incredible conference rooms and restaurants. it's like such a natural. each country can have their own villa or their own bungalow. >> a source tells cnn that doral wasn't even on the list of v

also tonight, 2020 democratic candidate hawaii congressman tulsi gabbard continuing to fight back after enduring a vicious slander, smear, libel from hillary clinton and her associates actually suggesting that she is a united states veteran being groomed to be an agent of russia. an allegation there is zero evidence, none whatsoever. zero basis in reality. but listen to this. >> i think they are going to be two parts and it's going to be 2016. don't vote for the other guy. don't vote for the other guy, or i'm going to show you in the flashing videos that appear and disappear and they are on the dark web and nobody can find them. you are going to see them and you're going to see that person do horrible things. they are also going to do third-party again. i'm not making any predictions. but i think they've got their eye on somebody currently in the democratic primary. and are grooming her to be thesh third party candidate. she's a favorite of the russians. they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her thus far. >> sean: responded in the recent video calling out clin

hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard who did not make the stage back in september was originally threatening to boycott this debate and accused the dnc and corporate media of rigging the election but said today she would participate in the debate. this will also be the first debate for billionaire tom steyer who has been calling for impeachment for years now. i am joined by the nbc news senior editor and eddie glaude professor at princeton university. the idea this could break the log jam open, where are you looking, bernie sanders, his first one since the heart attack. joe biden obviously connected to the whole controversy about ukraine. there were all the concerns about his performance in the last debate. who are you looking at specifically on the stage tomorrow? >> it is a little hard to see whether this is going to produce that break in the log jam for a couple reasons. number one, 12 people up on the stage it is going to be hard for anybody to get a lot of time to talk. unless some of the folks on the outer edges are going to start throwing some brick bats it is hard to see how they mak

the last holdout, hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard, changed her mind on frid some said the details in the whistleblower complaint are the clearest impeachable offenses yet. massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. >> this president has shown time this latest business with ukraine where it appears that hn is willing to take taxpayer dollars and dangle them in front of a for count in order to help himself and his own political chances of being reelected. it's wrong. it's a violation of the law. >> reporter: president trump has tried to turn attention to former vice president joe biden and his son hunter's business dealings with ukraine. warren said she would consider a ban on presidential children serving on boards of foreign companies. she added that the focus should be on trump's actions. california senator kamala harris, came to biden's defense. >> as far as i'm concerned leave joe biden, just leave him alone. i'm not going to be distracted by what this president is trying to play, which is a game because he knows that he is actually probably looking at an indictment. >> reporter:

. >> alcindor: that included exchanges with hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard over u.s. policy in syria, and former texas congressman beto o'rourke on gun policy. former texas congressman beto o'rourke on gun policy. >> let's do what's right. >> i don't need lessons from you on courage, political or personal. everyone on this stage is determined to get somethingte doin. >> ar: but the candidates did agree on one big issue. >> i support impeachment. >> alcindor: ...their support for the impeachment iniry facing president trump. >> he has committed crimes in plain sight. >> he should be removed. billionaire tom steyer in his first debate appearance. he's been pushing to impeach president trump yer the past two s. >> impeaching and removing this president is something that the american people are demanding. >> they're corrupt! >> alcindor: as for president trump's debunked claims that biden and his son engaged in illegal dealings in ukraine that helped spark the impeachment inquiry... >> look, my son did nothing wrong. i did nothing wrong. >> alcindor: ...biden defended, hi

there was one in hawaii and two in utah. >> so you're telling me in the entire united states, you came down to four finalists and two were trump properties? >> no, one. >> you said mar-a-lago. >> sorry, no, i'm sorry. doral, yes. sorry, yes. mar-a-lago was not close to being sufficient for the g-7. >> thank you for clarifying. >> if i said mar-a-lago about where we visited, no, it was doral. i apologize. >> so to the question of ukraine, can you clarify, and i've been trying to get an answer to this, was the president serious when he said that he would also like to see china investigate the bidens and you were directly involved in the decision to withhold funding from ukraine. can you explain to us now definitively why? why was funding withheld? >> let's deal with the second one first. look, it should come as no surprise to anybody, last time i was up here -- i haven't done this since i was chief of staff. last time i was up here, it was for the budget briefings. and one of the questions you always ask me about the budget is what are you doing to the foreign aid budget. because we abso

and while she is not directly saying who that is, it appears to be a direct shot at hawaii democratic congresswoman tulsi gabbard the military combat veteran is firing back tonight in a very big way. correspondent peter doocy has details at this hour. good evening, peter. >> good evening, bret. hillary clinton is very confidently making unproven claims of insider information about russian interference in 2020 as though she just talked to somebody who is standing around the water cooler at the kremlin. they are also going to do third party again. i'm not making any predictions. but i think they have their eye on somebody who is currently in the democratic primary and they are grooming her to be the third party candidate. she is a favorite of the russians. they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far. and that's assuming jill stein will give it up, which she might not because she is also a russian asset. >> the obama era u.n. ambassador 2016 election was won by 78,000 votes spread among three states absent third party candidates hillary clinton would have

one was the resort in hawaii. he said it was far and away the best site of all the sites we looked at? well, now i can trust of that process if i don't know what the sites were? if you looked at mick mulvaney's basement and the top of mount mckinley, then, yes, it was the best place. so until we know that think there it's hard to take him at face value. >> america has a lot of nice resorts beyond the one that the president owns. >> we keep talk about the rooms and what that. that's not the value. as we watch sports, we see minute maid park. they spent $20 million a year to get any sponsor, to just get their name mentioned, mentioned, mentioned. so the real money is not whatever the 20, 50, 80, $200,000 that they'll get from the actual rooms. the real money is for the next nine months how many media impressions are going against the world doral? if we want to know why it is so not a good obvious choice, even if you looked at miami, there's the fount deign bluain blue. people don't do conventions in doral, they go t

chairman, one of the 12 candidates who is qualified for the debate, congressman tulsi gabbert of hawaii is threatening to boycott the debate. she claims in a posting on her website that the dnc is rigging the election again. she believes the debates show where they're focusing on the top-tier candidates and others can't get a word in. she believes the standards set to get on the stage with regard to polling is arbitrary, not transparent. how do you respond to congresswoman gabbert? >> we have been transparent throughout. whenever we announced our first debate we announced it and gave them four months to qualify for the debate stage. not only did we set up a polling criteria to get on the debate stage, but we set up a grassroots fundraising criteria. that never had been done in politics. we said that up, willie, because we wanted to give candidates who had real talent but maybe not the national name id, an alternative pathway to the debate stage. there were something like 35 different polls for this upcoming debate, and what candidates needed to do was get on -- get 2% in no less than fo

he said one was in utah and one was in hawaii and one would require guests to have oxygen maskss whi masks, which is unclear what that is. i assume about altitude. but from the beginning the president was going to steer this event to doral, it had been in the works for months. he wanted -- he saw it as an opportunity to boost his property. he saw it as an opportunity to host world leaders at one of his many properties. and he saw perhaps a chance that he could, as we know, he's been speculating over and over that the g7 should return to the g8 and that russia, namely vladimir putin, should get a seat at the table again. there are people around the president who thought that case could be made most effectively if the president was doing so from his home turf. but had say moment where republicans, and there have not been many moments like this in the last couple weeks we have seen republicans stand up to him both on g7 and of course the situation in syria. so it will be interesting to see as the impeachment inquiry grows whether republicans will feel more and more comfortable doing tha