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unprecedented way in shaping american foreign policy in ukraine. this comes as rudy giuliani and his associates building each day of the case. rudy giuliani stopped appearing on tv and for a week rudy giuliani stopped talking all together. to those watching this slow-moving unraveling of donald trump's presidency like formal federal prosecutor. it was no coincidence. >> you have to look at rudy giuliani as a racketeering enterprising at this point. >> reporter: what's emerging is evidence of u.s. foreign policy operation ran by the president's private attorney and carried out by to american businessmen with shady pasts. parnas was on phone calls with rudy giuliani and members of the ukraine government while top american diplomats in ukraine and those appointed by trump were excluded when u.s. ba ambassador marie yovanovitch got in the way. bill taylor told congress the official foreign policy of the united states was under cut by the irregular efforts led by mr. rudy giuliani. the u.s. ambassador to the european union testified when he and other members of a u.s. delegation including
unprecedented way in shaping american foreign policy in ukraine. this comes as rudy giuliani and his associates building each day of the case. rudy giuliani stopped appearing on tv and for a week rudy giuliani stopped talking all together. to those watching this slow-moving unraveling of donald trump's presidency like formal federal prosecutor. it was no coincidence. >> you have to look at rudy giuliani as a racketeering enterprising at this point. >> reporter: what's emerging is...
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politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the feds indict two rudy giuliani employees. the indictment are key sources in ukraine. how democrats already want to question them in their trump impeachment inquiry. >>> as the president calls the impeachment a partisan witch hunt, his own government again gives credence to the case against him. first the attorney general backed up the whistleblower's account. now they're labeled as crooks the man who, through rudy giuliani, helped stoke the giuliani/ukraine obsession. what it tells us about the company rudy giuliani keeps and how it factors into the impeachment case against the president. just this is head-snapping. the president's own justice department indicting clients of his personal attorney, rudy giuliani. those clients were arrested at dulles airport outside of washington yesterday. spent the night in jail. are due in federal court later today. they are accused of violating campaign laws by laundering foreign money through a u.s. entity and illegally into american campaigns. they are accused of violation in ukraine. n
politics." i'm john king. thank you for sharing your day with us. the feds indict two rudy giuliani employees. the indictment are key sources in ukraine. how democrats already want to question them in their trump impeachment inquiry. >>> as the president calls the impeachment a partisan witch hunt, his own government again gives credence to the case against him. first the attorney general backed up the whistleblower's account. now they're labeled as crooks the man who,...
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than ten hours of testimony yesterday testified that bolton described rudy giuliani as a, quote, hand grenade who's going to blow everybody up. according to a source close to hill, she expressed flashes of anger during her testimony at the spread of conspiracy theories and told house investigators that the only person who benefits from those efforts is vladimir putin. hill has also said bay this source to have testified that there was, quote, absolutely a quid pro quo for the meeting with trump. meaning that zelensky was expected to open investigations that would damage the bidens before a meeting with trump would be scheduled. "the new york times" reports on hill's depiction of a deep and acrimonious divide that emerged at the highest levels of the policymaking process. describing a rather unholy alliance between giuliani, sondland, and mulvaney and john bolton and his allies pushing back. from that "times" report, "mr. bolton got into a tense exchange on july 10th with sondland. the trump donor turned ambassador to the eu. who was working with giuliani to press you crane to investig
than ten hours of testimony yesterday testified that bolton described rudy giuliani as a, quote, hand grenade who's going to blow everybody up. according to a source close to hill, she expressed flashes of anger during her testimony at the spread of conspiracy theories and told house investigators that the only person who benefits from those efforts is vladimir putin. hill has also said bay this source to have testified that there was, quote, absolutely a quid pro quo for the meeting with...
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. that in just a few moments. it's a very busy night. >>> also tonight, is rudy giuliani still president trump's lawyer? the president was asked a direct question on the white house lawn, and he wouldn't say yes. >> is rudy giuliani still your personal attorney? >> well, i don't know. i haven't spoken to rudy. i spoke to him yesterday briefly. he's a very good attorney, and he has been my attorney. >> the president saying i don't know, and everybody scratching their heads. so is rudy giuliani still his lawyer or not? tonight a source is telling cnn that, yes, giuliani is still president trump's lawyer but won't be handling matters involving ukraine. and it's not hard to see why. giuliani getting too hot to touch with the arrest and indictments this week of his two associates who were helping him try to dig up dirt on joe biden in ukraine. but now they are charged with violating campaign finance laws, accused of funneling foreign money into u.s. elections. and to make matters worse for giuliani, the two men were arrested while trying to board a flight to europe with one-way tick
. that in just a few moments. it's a very busy night. >>> also tonight, is rudy giuliani still president trump's lawyer? the president was asked a direct question on the white house lawn, and he wouldn't say yes. >> is rudy giuliani still your personal attorney? >> well, i don't know. i haven't spoken to rudy. i spoke to him yesterday briefly. he's a very good attorney, and he has been my attorney. >> the president saying i don't know, and everybody...
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>>> under arrest, two associates of rudy giuliani as they try to leave the country on one-way tickets. the men reportedly dined with giuliani hours earlier. we have new information on their indictment. >>> subpoenaing energy secretary rick perry for documents as the probe expands into the president's candidate. maneuvers that led to the freeze of the aid to ukraine. one signed off on it, raising the eyebrows of career lawmakers. >>> who may turn on him and leveling defectors. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >> breaking news tonight, two associates of rudy giuliani have been arrested. the two men nabbed by the fbi at the airport as they try to leave the country on one-way tickets were key players in giuliani's crusade to dig up dirt on joe biden in ukraine. also breaking, democrats subpoena energy secretary rick perry for documents as they probe his potential role in the ukraine scandal. lawmakers want to know who told the ukraine leader. we'll discuss with the oversight committee and our correspondents and analysts will have full coverage of today's top stori
>>> under arrest, two associates of rudy giuliani as they try to leave the country on one-way tickets. the men reportedly dined with giuliani hours earlier. we have new information on their indictment. >>> subpoenaing energy secretary rick perry for documents as the probe expands into the president's candidate. maneuvers that led to the freeze of the aid to ukraine. one signed off on it, raising the eyebrows of career lawmakers. >>> who may turn on him and...
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today, two trump supporting rudy giuliani associates arrested. effort to dig up dirt over joe biden. does their allege crime here connect at all to the tangled web that could lead to impeachment? so far, president trump has been silent on his lawyer's associates being nabbed at the airport trying to skip the country. what might he say when he waubs to marine one this hour? >>> and allowing turkey to run over u.s. allies in syria, iraq war veteran and cnn contributor with a passion on the subject will join me this hour. >>> welcome to "the lead." i'm jake tapper. we begin with the breaking news. two of rudy giuliani's so-called expert witnesses to find alleged corruption by trump's opponents were arrested today by the u.s. department of justice for, quote, corrupt behavior. led barnas. said his ukrainian operation is to help his client, the president. they were arrested at dulles airport last night holding one-way tickets out of the country, according to two u.s. officials, prompting prosecutors to today unseal this indictment that claims that they were funneling foreign money into u
today, two trump supporting rudy giuliani associates arrested. effort to dig up dirt over joe biden. does their allege crime here connect at all to the tangled web that could lead to impeachment? so far, president trump has been silent on his lawyer's associates being nabbed at the airport trying to skip the country. what might he say when he waubs to marine one this hour? >>> and allowing turkey to run over u.s. allies in syria, iraq war veteran and cnn contributor with a passion on...
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damning testimony out of the impeachment testimony, john bolton describing rudy giuliani as a hand grenade and the pressure on the campaign to describe rudy giuliani as a drug deal. >>> and joe biden's son hunter speaking out for the first time, admitting bad judgment vovinvolg his work overseas, though insisting he did nothing improper. >>> u.s. forces are angry at president trump, accusing him of betraying the kurds. >>> a lot has changed since the last faceoff. an impeachment inquiry, a new frontrunner and a heart attack. the hill is alive now with the sound of investigations todayment congress is back in full session today, both the house and the senate getting back to work. the three house committees did not observe the break as they worked on the impeachment investigation. the house intelligence, foreign affairs and oversight committees heard testimony yesterday from fiona hill. she's a former top adviser to the president on russia. today another diplomat is testifying. george kent. he is the deputy of assistant secretary of foreign affairs. he prevented on you crane from bei
damning testimony out of the impeachment testimony, john bolton describing rudy giuliani as a hand grenade and the pressure on the campaign to describe rudy giuliani as a drug deal. >>> and joe biden's son hunter speaking out for the first time, admitting bad judgment vovinvolg his work overseas, though insisting he did nothing improper. >>> u.s. forces are angry at president trump, accusing him of betraying the kurds. >>> a lot has changed since the last faceoff. an...
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. that's michael cohen. the second one is rudy giuliani. and these two gentlemen who were arrested last night, they are, like the president, clients of mr. giuliani. they have been arrested on multiple felony counts for allegedly funneling very large amounts of illegal campaign contributions to various republican politicians and political entities using straw men and a fake natural gas company and a number of other schemes to conceal the real origins of these illegal donations, including some of these funds that were given to them for this purpose by an unnamed russian donor. as of tonight these gentlemen are in custody in a federal jail in virginia, although i believe if they post a million dollars bail each sometime tonight, they could be released with monitoring devices and some sort of third-party representing to the court that they promise not to flee the country. but i mean bottom line here, when your lawyer's other clients get arrested, that's not good. you want to know what's worse than that, though? when cnn soon thereafter reports that your lawyer himself is also being sc
. that's michael cohen. the second one is rudy giuliani. and these two gentlemen who were arrested last night, they are, like the president, clients of mr. giuliani. they have been arrested on multiple felony counts for allegedly funneling very large amounts of illegal campaign contributions to various republican politicians and political entities using straw men and a fake natural gas company and a number of other schemes to conceal the real origins of these illegal donations, including some...
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surrounding rudy giuliani. this is the worst situation this president has had to deal with. why? let's get after it. the irony, the same federal office rudy giuliani once led is leading a criminal investigation into him. according to "the wall street journal," prosecutors in manhattan are examining giuliani's business dealings in union cra ukraine and elsewhere, long with his personal finances. they report investigators have been talking to witnesses since at least august. one question is how will the d.o.j. wind up dovetailing with congress? they're looking at the same situation. a short time ago fiona hill wrapped up more than ten hours of testimony on capitol hill. two sources say president trump's former top russia adviser raised concerns about giuliani's so-called shadow ukraine policy during her deposition. we have someone who heard directly from her at those closed-door impeachment proceedings. let's bring in house oversight and judiciary member jamie raskin. thank you for coming on "primetime." >> thanks for having me, chris. >> what do you want us to know about the value of the te
surrounding rudy giuliani. this is the worst situation this president has had to deal with. why? let's get after it. the irony, the same federal office rudy giuliani once led is leading a criminal investigation into him. according to "the wall street journal," prosecutors in manhattan are examining giuliani's business dealings in union cra ukraine and elsewhere, long with his personal finances. they report investigators have been talking to witnesses since at least august. one...
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. breaking news this afternoon involving rudy giuliani and his push to investigate joe biden in ukraine. any minute now two men accused of helping giuliani in those efforts are expected to appear in a virginia federal courtroom after being arrested and indicted for pouring foreign money into a u.s. election. the charges all relate to donations made by these two men. this is igor fruman and lev parnas, two former texas congressmen pete sessions, congressmen, allegedly asked to help get the former ambassador to ukraine fired. hang on. straight to the southern district of new york. listen in to these prosecutors. >> -- indictment charge of lev parnas, igor fruman and two co-defendants alleged participation in schemes to violate the federal campaign finance laws by repeatedly using straw donors and foreign money. parnas and fruman were arrested around 6:00 p.m. last night at dulles airport as they were about to board and international flight with one-way tickets. as alleged in the indictment, the defendants broke the law to gain political influence while avoiding disclosure of who was actua
. breaking news this afternoon involving rudy giuliani and his push to investigate joe biden in ukraine. any minute now two men accused of helping giuliani in those efforts are expected to appear in a virginia federal courtroom after being arrested and indicted for pouring foreign money into a u.s. election. the charges all relate to donations made by these two men. this is igor fruman and lev parnas, two former texas congressmen pete sessions, congressmen, allegedly asked to help get the...
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months on the job. >> and the personretty preside meantime won't confirm wherever rudy giuliani is his lawyer. >>> and yesterday the former u.s. ambassador said they wanted her out. she says how they smeared her reputation to the ukrainian officials. >> we want to start with the resignation of kev mcaleenan, acting secretary of homeland security. this happened on the same day there were several setbacks. >> reporter: president trump announcing in a tweet kevin mcaleenan is resigning from his position and the president says it's to spend more time with his family and children, though behind the scenes people inside the white house said they never thought mcaleenan was going to be nominated for the top job anyway. instead he served in this acting capacity, running the agent circle at times frustrating for mcaleenan who didn't like the hard-liners the president brought in. but in turn, the president never trusted mcaleenan, blaming him a lot of the times for high border crossing numbers or issues the president didn't like on the border. it was a match people never thought was going to be
months on the job. >> and the personretty preside meantime won't confirm wherever rudy giuliani is his lawyer. >>> and yesterday the former u.s. ambassador said they wanted her out. she says how they smeared her reputation to the ukrainian officials. >> we want to start with the resignation of kev mcaleenan, acting secretary of homeland security. this happened on the same day there were several setbacks. >> reporter: president trump announcing in a tweet...
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the lobbying campaign that rudy giuliani waged to get her fired 37 an effort he mounted with his two business associates. both of whom were arrested this week according to the wall street. rudy giuliani wanted her fired because he believed she had been an obstacle in efforts to push ukraine to investigate mr. biden. she was eventually removed after insisting that rudy giuliani's request to ukrainian officials for investigations be relayed through official channels. she warned of a quote unfortunate alliance between ukrainians who continued to operate within a corrupt system and americans who did not understand that corrupt system or who may have chosen for their own purposes to ignore it. for more i'm joined by congressman danny heck. a democratic from washington state and who took part in today's deposition. geoff bennett and susan page. thanks to all of you for being here. congressman, we're talking about this hearing today that you have been a part of for the past eight hours or so. let me begin with you and ask you, what you heard today from the former ambassador. does it adv
the lobbying campaign that rudy giuliani waged to get her fired 37 an effort he mounted with his two business associates. both of whom were arrested this week according to the wall street. rudy giuliani wanted her fired because he believed she had been an obstacle in efforts to push ukraine to investigate mr. biden. she was eventually removed after insisting that rudy giuliani's request to ukrainian officials for investigations be relayed through official channels. she warned of a quote...
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. rudy giuliani and defense secretary esper facing subpoena deadlines to produce documents and going for house committees conducting impeachment inquiries. what's more, kent is testifying despite a direct attempt by the white house to stop him from doing so. this is happening as we learn more about the explosive testimony from another key witness in the impeachment inquiry. president trump's former top adviser on russia fiona hill detailed a shadowed foreign policy run by rudy giuliani and others accord togz a source. a source says hill described how president trump's then national security adviser john bolton was so alarmed what was going on he pushed for an attorney to get involved. start there with cnn's political correspondent sara murray and so let's start with fiona hill and all of her testimony, nine hours' worth, yesterday, in washington, d.c. what did she tell the house committees? >> reporter: right. the president's top advisers on russia and laid out the concerns in the trump administration about these various back channels of foreign policy including rudy giuliani. talked how
. rudy giuliani and defense secretary esper facing subpoena deadlines to produce documents and going for house committees conducting impeachment inquiries. what's more, kent is testifying despite a direct attempt by the white house to stop him from doing so. this is happening as we learn more about the explosive testimony from another key witness in the impeachment inquiry. president trump's former top adviser on russia fiona hill detailed a shadowed foreign policy run by rudy giuliani and...
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giuliani's efforts to get the ukrainians and his son, hunter. there is a new report tonight about rudy giuliani as well. investigators have examined rudy giuliani's bank records. more on that in a moment. sources say fiona hill also praise yovanovitch. the former ambassador of ukraine who was ousted by trump at the behest of rudy giuliani and others. he had this to say about her testimony. >> i have been in congress for seven years and i can say in all candor that after thousands of hours of hearings, i have never had a witness that came across as substantive per minute as she did. there was amazing information provided and i think it will be helpful. >> congress is back from a two-week break. this week lawmakers have testimonies from a number of key players. tomorrow the secretary george kent and on wednesday, michael mckinley, who resigned last week as senior adviser to the secretary of state, mike pompeo. resigned, supposedly because of pompeo's lack of support for diplomat caught up in the ukraine scandal. thursday is gordon sondland. he's going to testify on thursday. he failed to
giuliani's efforts to get the ukrainians and his son, hunter. there is a new report tonight about rudy giuliani as well. investigators have examined rudy giuliani's bank records. more on that in a moment. sources say fiona hill also praise yovanovitch. the former ambassador of ukraine who was ousted by trump at the behest of rudy giuliani and others. he had this to say about her testimony. >> i have been in congress for seven years and i can say in all candor that after thousands of...
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town halls during recess. rudy giuliani and mark es per phasing subpoena deadlines to produce documents and, three, maybe most critically, another career diplomat is going before the house committees conducting the ever impeachment investigat. george kent overseeing u.s. policy in eastern europe including ukraine is testifying right now despite a direct attempt by the white house to block his appearance. moments ago we got a couple of details what he has said so far. democrats are telling our own correspondent there manu raju kent is backing up what monday's witness fiona hill disclosed. speaking of fiona hill, she sat and testified ten hours before the three house committees and her details about her time as trump's top adviser on russia were pretty explosive. she told lawmakers a shadow foreign policy for ukraine basically run by rudy giuliani and others. according to a source. what's more here, a source says hill described how the president's then national security adviser john bolton was so alarmed what was happening he pushed for an attorney to get involved. cnn political
town halls during recess. rudy giuliani and mark es per phasing subpoena deadlines to produce documents and, three, maybe most critically, another career diplomat is going before the house committees conducting the ever impeachment investigat. george kent overseeing u.s. policy in eastern europe including ukraine is testifying right now despite a direct attempt by the white house to block his appearance. moments ago we got a couple of details what he has said so far. democrats are telling our...
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>>> happening now, breaking news. rudy's associates busted. two men who worked with rudy giuliani to try and dig up dirt on joe biden in the ukraine were arrested trying to flee the united states and are now charged with breaking u.s. campaign finance laws, reportedly just hours after having lunch with rudy giuliani. >>> a subpoena for perry. another administration official is swept into the impeachment inquiry. three house committees have subpoenaed energy secretary rick perry. was he involved in the effort to dig up dirt on joe biden? >>> bernie sanders suts doits d this hour with dr. sanjay gupta to talk about his recent heart attack, his race for the white house, the impeachment inquiry, and more. >>> and democratic presidential candidates are about to take the stage and take on the issues facing america's lgbtq community in a night of groundbreaking back to back town halls right here on cnn. we're calling it "equality in america." we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >> announcer: this is cnn br
>>> happening now, breaking news. rudy's associates busted. two men who worked with rudy giuliani to try and dig up dirt on joe biden in the ukraine were arrested trying to flee the united states and are now charged with breaking u.s. campaign finance laws, reportedly just hours after having lunch with rudy giuliani. >>> a subpoena for perry. another administration official is swept into the impeachment inquiry. three house committees have subpoenaed energy...
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duty. has trump distanced himself from rudy giuliani following the arrest of two of his associates. cnn learned the president is voicing doubts about giuliani's ability to defend himself in the impeachment inquiry. and now there are new issues around another lawyer hired as impeachment counsel into and fire and ash. a wind whipped wildfire is burning out of control in los angeles forcing 100,000 people to flee. tonight the flames are spreading and red flag warnings have been extended. i'm wolf blitzer and you're in "the situation room." >> reporter: this is cnn breaking news. >> we're following breaking news. new details of testimony by the former u.s. ambassador to ukraine in the house impeachment inquiry. marie yovanovitch has been talking to lawmakers behind closed doors for hours. telling them that president trump wanted her removed based on unfounded and false claims about her. that is according to a copy of her opening statement obtained by the "new york times." and the democratic chairman of three house committees says she's appearing before the committee saying they had to
duty. has trump distanced himself from rudy giuliani following the arrest of two of his associates. cnn learned the president is voicing doubts about giuliani's ability to defend himself in the impeachment inquiry. and now there are new issues around another lawyer hired as impeachment counsel into and fire and ash. a wind whipped wildfire is burning out of control in los angeles forcing 100,000 people to flee. tonight the flames are spreading and red flag warnings have been extended. i'm wolf...
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ukrainian president which he later tried to walk back. is it too little too late? >> and rudy giuliani, we will take a deeper look at his role in dealings with ukraine as congressional investigators uncover potentially damaging new information. >> and back to russia. attorney general bill barr, new today, expands his controversial review into the origin of the russia investigation. now, according to multiple current and former officials, two big questions now, what is big barr looking for? and why now? as the impeachment inquiry closes in on the administration. also, later for you, a look ahead to what's to come this coming peek in the impeachment inquiry. the key players, the testimony and the potential fallout. >>> today is day 26 of the impeachment inquiry into president donald trump. but we are also in a week that marks day 1,000 of the trump presidency. and a week that could be the president's worst so far. acting chief of staff mick mulvaney had a topsy-turvy press conference thursday. in that press conference, he admitted a quid pro quo in his, and the president's dealings with the
ukrainian president which he later tried to walk back. is it too little too late? >> and rudy giuliani, we will take a deeper look at his role in dealings with ukraine as congressional investigators uncover potentially damaging new information. >> and back to russia. attorney general bill barr, new today, expands his controversial review into the origin of the russia investigation. now, according to multiple current and former officials, two big questions now, what is big...
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president's personal attorney rudy giuliani. more witnesses testifying how giuliani was really the point man on the president pressuring ukraine to investigate the bidens and now new detail answer the federal investigation of giuliani and his work. so let's get right to cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez breaking this for us right now. you have new details from the justice department's southern district of new york, sdny. the office that prosecuted michael cohen. remind everyone. what are you learning? >> reporter: this is an investigation that goes far longer and back further than we realized, and also that it's much broader than we initially thought. one of the things we're getting a picture of, a better picture of is this involves not only giuliani's financial entanglements with allegedly corrupt ukrainian figures, but also counterintelligence angle is there to this and the idea that perhaps rudy giuliani and be some of his business dealings were part of essentially an influence operation, a foreign influence operation with a target being the trump white house. now, t
president's personal attorney rudy giuliani. more witnesses testifying how giuliani was really the point man on the president pressuring ukraine to investigate the bidens and now new detail answer the federal investigation of giuliani and his work. so let's get right to cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez breaking this for us right now. you have new details from the justice department's southern district of new york, sdny. the office that prosecuted michael cohen. remind everyone....
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ukraine. he testified for ten hours today under oath about what rudy giuliani and donald trump have been doing with ukraine, yes, william taylor delivered testimony devastating to president trump. one freshman member of the committee hearing his testimony today said after the first couple hours of william taylor's testimony that it was, quote, my most disturbing day in congress so far. that congressman will join us in a moment. william taylor's testimony could make the impeachment of donald trump bipartisan. his testimony could turn some republican votes in the house of representatives and it might be the testimony that convinces republican senator mitt romney to vote to convict and remove donald trump from office. donald trump's very rich and totally incompetent and unqualified ambassador to the european union, gordon sondland, could face perjury charges after william taylor's testimony today. we will consider later in this hour how william taylor's testimony increases rudy giuliani's risk of being charged in federal crimes. along with giuliani's friends and associates who have already
ukraine. he testified for ten hours today under oath about what rudy giuliani and donald trump have been doing with ukraine, yes, william taylor delivered testimony devastating to president trump. one freshman member of the committee hearing his testimony today said after the first couple hours of william taylor's testimony that it was, quote, my most disturbing day in congress so far. that congressman will join us in a moment. william taylor's testimony could make the impeachment of donald...
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campaign that rudy giuliani waged to get her fired, an effort he mounted with his two business associates, lev parnas and igor fruman, both of which were arrested this week. quote, he believed yovanovitch had been an obstacle to investigate mr. biden. that said yovanovitch told congress, quote, i do not know mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me but she warned of a, quote, unfortunate alliance between ukrainians who continue to operate within a corrupt system and americans who either did not understand that corrupt system or who may have chosen for their own purposes to ignore it. for more i am joined now by congressman denny heck, a congressman from washington state who serves on the intelligence committee and took part in today's deposition, jeff bennett, a correspondent for nbc news, greg miller, a security correspondent for "the washington post," and susan page, washington bureau chief for usa today. thanks to all of you for being here. congressman, we are talking about this hearing today you've been a part of for the past eight hours or so. so let me begin with you and a
campaign that rudy giuliani waged to get her fired, an effort he mounted with his two business associates, lev parnas and igor fruman, both of which were arrested this week. quote, he believed yovanovitch had been an obstacle to investigate mr. biden. that said yovanovitch told congress, quote, i do not know mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me but she warned of a, quote, unfortunate alliance between ukrainians who continue to operate within a corrupt system and americans who either did not...
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about rudy giuliani? this is behind closed doors so information is hard to get. >> reporter: that's right, anderson. from what we do know of her deposition, she really painted today for the lawmakers a fuller picture of what she believes the role of rudy giuliani was, the extent of his role, how he according to her essentially coordinated this well-coordinated strategy to smear campaign, if you will, to lead to her removal from the post. she said that at the time while she was in ukraine, she had heard from ukrainian officials that giuliani was going around trashing her, saying bad things about her, making bad things up about her but it was only until now in the context of all that has been revealed over the last few weeks does she understand some of the context and essentially the extent of all of this. some powerful words mostly in the opens statement obtained from "the new york times" about why she felt this was significant. she said because of the smear campaign was made up of unfounded and false chase by people she says with clearly questionable motives. of course a reference t
about rudy giuliani? this is behind closed doors so information is hard to get. >> reporter: that's right, anderson. from what we do know of her deposition, she really painted today for the lawmakers a fuller picture of what she believes the role of rudy giuliani was, the extent of his role, how he according to her essentially coordinated this well-coordinated strategy to smear campaign, if you will, to lead to her removal from the post. she said that at the time while she was in...
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evacuation. we'll check back shortly. >>> meantime, two men close to rudy giuliani have been arrested. not just any men. these are central players in giuliani's far flung efforts to get foreign leaders to dig up dirt on joe biden. they were charged with foreign money into campaigns. these -- we have pictures, i think. these are pictures of all the men together. we don't know exactly when this is from. but interestingly enough, the soviet-born pair met giuliani for lunch at the trump international hotel in washington hours before they were arrested at dulles airport attempting to leave the country. the former ambassador to ukraine is scheduled to appear before house investigators. those men arrested along with giuliani, they worked to get her fired from her post. and the president did ultimately push her out. we're standing by to see if the president tries to block her testimony this morning. jessica snyder is live with us in washington. what a tangled web here. >> reporter: absolutely, john. the dramatic arrests of rudy giuliani's two associates really still sending shock waves throug
evacuation. we'll check back shortly. >>> meantime, two men close to rudy giuliani have been arrested. not just any men. these are central players in giuliani's far flung efforts to get foreign leaders to dig up dirt on joe biden. they were charged with foreign money into campaigns. these -- we have pictures, i think. these are pictures of all the men together. we don't know exactly when this is from. but interestingly enough, the soviet-born pair met giuliani for lunch at...
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refusing to say whether rudy giuliani is still his personal attorney. we're told mr. trump is now expressing concerns about giuliani after two of giuliani's associates linked to the ukraine scandal were dieted. this as the former ambassador to ukraine has been testifying before impeachment investigators all day in defiance of the trump administration. the "new york times" reports that marie yovanovitch told lawmakers she was forced out by mr. trump and giuliani based on what she describes as unfounded and false claims. also breaking, the house intelligence committee chairman says the impeachment investigation is moving with new urgency and zeroing in on the ukraine scandal with new testimony expected to be announced in the coming days. i'll get reaction from a congressman who heard the former ambassador's testimony, house committee member sean patrick maloney is standing by along with our correspondents and analysts. let's go to caitlyn collins first. new evidence that the president is distancing himself from rudy giuliani. >> reporter: it comes one day after news broke about thos
refusing to say whether rudy giuliani is still his personal attorney. we're told mr. trump is now expressing concerns about giuliani after two of giuliani's associates linked to the ukraine scandal were dieted. this as the former ambassador to ukraine has been testifying before impeachment investigators all day in defiance of the trump administration. the "new york times" reports that marie yovanovitch told lawmakers she was forced out by mr. trump and giuliani based on what she...
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. do you think rudy giuliani should, in fact, come and testify in front of your committee? and if so, what would you want to hear from him? >> first of all, i would savor the opportunity. i would, especially if it's done publicly. and i know rudy giuliani is, you know, from new york, very close to broadway. he loves the theatrics, but there are real things he has to answer for, and the conduct that he's been doing, the direction he's been taking from the president, his intervention in areas where there are critical national security interests -- yeah, there's a lot i'd like to know from him, and i believe his behavior has been despicable and the lies and half-truths, the deception that he's been doing at the direction of this president and beyond is unbecoming, and he should stand before congress and answer for it. so, again, i would be happy to, as a member of the judiciary committee, to ask him publicly to answer for it. and it may end up being -- you know, he may not be cooperative. he may not -- he may be obstructionist, but i do not see a problem with having a public hearing wit
. do you think rudy giuliani should, in fact, come and testify in front of your committee? and if so, what would you want to hear from him? >> first of all, i would savor the opportunity. i would, especially if it's done publicly. and i know rudy giuliani is, you know, from new york, very close to broadway. he loves the theatrics, but there are real things he has to answer for, and the conduct that he's been doing, the direction he's been taking from the president, his intervention in...
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about rudy giuliani's efforts to undermine u.s. foreign policy in ukraine. that's when acting chief of staff mick mulvaney was overseeing it. he's reportedly a key player in withholding funds from ukraine. >>> new legal jeopardy, centimeter legal jep for rudy giuliani. cnn has learned a grand jury has subpoenaed someone connected to rudy giuliani and two associates arrested last week. all of this together paint as picture of what witnesses describe as a shadow foreign policy not necessarily for national interests but the president's personal gain. so we have news developing all over the place. we're going to get to all of it. we'll start, though, with the debate that ended minutes ago. mj lee live at the debate hall in westerville. mj. >> reporter: we saw one of the clearest. warren tried to deflect criticism all night coming at her from all directions. senator elizabeth warren pressed on how she would pay for bernie sanders medicare for all plan. >> let me be clear on this. costs will go up for the wealthy. they will go up for big corporations. i will not sign a bill into law that doe
about rudy giuliani's efforts to undermine u.s. foreign policy in ukraine. that's when acting chief of staff mick mulvaney was overseeing it. he's reportedly a key player in withholding funds from ukraine. >>> new legal jeopardy, centimeter legal jep for rudy giuliani. cnn has learned a grand jury has subpoenaed someone connected to rudy giuliani and two associates arrested last week. all of this together paint as picture of what witnesses describe as a shadow foreign policy not...
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"out front" tonight, breaking news, two men arrested from the ukraine scandal. they're personal associates of rudy giuliani, trump's personal lawyer. they were seen having lunch with giuliani at the trump international hotel in washington just hours before they were arrested at the airport. i want to show you a picture of one of the men about giuliani at that same hotel just last month. these two men were arrested as they were about to leave the united states with one-way tickets. here's what president trump said late this afternoon. >> i don't know them. i don't know about them. enwhat they do. i don't know. maybe they were clients of rudy, you'd have to ask rudy. i just don't know. >> one possible problem for the president, all of the photos like this, president trump with one of the men after dinner at the white house back in may. another one from july of last year with the other giuliani associate and another one, here's both of them with trump, giuliani and vice president mike pence. evan peres is out front tonight. how closer these men who are now arrested, right, for -- for alleged crimes to giuliani? how closer they to giuliani? >> they're very close. giuliani has referred to them as his clients and erin, more importantly, these are the guys who have -- who allegedly were behind some of this operation that giuliani's been running to try to dig up dirt on joe biden and joe biden's son alleging that there was some corruption allegations that needed to be investigated there in ukraine. these men allegedly, according to this -- this indictment that was unsealed by prosecutors in manhattan today were actually doing other things. they were essentially running a business that was moving money from ukrainian sources, from people overseas and trying to essentially hide it as they were trying to funnel it to candidates here in the united states. these were congressional candidates as well as hundreds of thousands of dollars that allegedly were going to a pro-trump political action committee here in the united states. all, of course, is illegal for you to do because under u.s. law you're not allowed to donate foreign money into u.s. candidates. so that's how close they were, and the question now, obviously, not only how far does this go? we know that giuliani obviously was very tied to these men and you heard the president saying he had no idea who they were, but is that true? who else was involved in this? >> obviously a lot of questions and several pictures. obviously there are a lot of pictures with the president with a lot of people and these are repetitive events and this ties back for trump's attempt to get dirt from joe biden from ukraine. >> right. exactly. one of the broader questions that's being asked tonight, erin is whether or not the effort to smear joe biden was perhaps another influence operation, foreign influence operation itself. was it perhaps something that people we don't know about, perhaps the russians, people who are pro-russian business people in ukraine were behind funding some of this. again, those are the questions that are being asked because the fbi and prosecutors in manhattan don't believe that we have a full explanation yet about where this money was coming from. >> all right. thank you very much, evan, and i want to get straight to jim acosta who is traveling with the president tonight. trump very clearly trying to distance himself from a person that he seemed thrilled for a long time to be, you know, tied to, and that is rudy giuliani. >> that's right. absolutely, erin. the president is trying to put some space between himself and rudy giuliani. you heard the president on the south lawn of the white house on this afternoon on his way to the rally in minneapolis telling reporters he didn't know the two associates and telling reporters if you want to know what they were up to, talk to rudy giuliani. at one point the president was asked why are you appearing in these pictures with these two individuals and he said he takes pictures with a lot of people as a political candidate. i talked to the president's other personal attorney jake sekulow and he only made a brief comment saying neither president trump or the campaign is involved in the scheme that these gentlemen were allegedly involved here. a short time ago brad parscale, the trump campaign manager was briefly talking with reporters. i asked him, did he know these two individuals tied to roouudy giuliani. he raises his money $64 at a time. so the campaign also trything, thought spoke volumes earlier this afternoon when the president was asked whether or not heuliani, his personal attorney, friend for many, many years will be indicted? he said only, i hope not. >> thank you very much, jim acosta. much more on that and as i was looking down here. i was just looking at the breaking news that we have. "the washington post" is reporting at this hour that at least four national security officials raised concerns about the trump administration's attempts to pressure ukraine for political purposes. there is a lot of breaking news in this story and i want to emphasize, they're saying these concerns were raised before the call and immediately after the call with ukrainian president zelensky. greg miller broke the story and joins me. greg, you're saying four national security officials raised alarms about what the white house was doing, and they did this before the call because they were already concerned and after the call? >> yeah. that's right, and this is a conservative estimate and these are four officials that we know of that we have been able to identify and there may be more, and yeah. one of the important things in our story is that some of these officials were going to lawyers inside the white house with their concerns even before the call because of all of the stuff they saw happening and would include the removal of a u.n. ambassador and rudy giuliani and planning trips to didkiev and or developments that are getting closer and closer at the white house in early july that really unnerved a number of people in the room. >> so you also, and i want to give you -- there are a couple of things in here that appear very significant. first of all, when you talk about the transcript of the call itself that there was immediate concern about it, a lot of people on it had very serious concerns. now, you're reporting that within hours of that conversation it got moved. it didn't even take a day. within hours they moved it to the code level server? >> yeah. so the way it was described to us that this was an immediate reaction. that even coming out of the call there were people who were immediately turning to higher ranking people in the white house. they were really alarmed by what happened and there was panic and you have the national security adviser john bolton at the time that was not on the call, scrambling to get a transcript of the call to figure out what had transpired and other officials are ordering this into a highly classified server to get it out of visibility. >> one other point here, you talk about gordon sondland who they pulled from testifying this week who had been a big donor to the president and was then the ambassador to the european union and he started bringing stuff up with joe biden and the debunked conspira conspiracy theories about ukraine's role in went ballisti >> yeah. >> was john bolton ballistic because he being not believe this was happening and had a problem with it? >> i think bolton, as controversial as he was as a national security adviser, he was very critical of russia and very supportive of ukraine and he saw what jewel yaen was doing and what these two ambassadors were doing as derailing what he regarded as a very important policy, and he blows up over that meeting in particular because there's a reference. lo sondland, they're meeting with a ukrainian delegation and going after the pre-approved talking points and sondland goes off script and starts talking about ukraine re-opening investigations that had been closed and he doesn't use the word biden and everyone in the room knows what that means and it is a frightening moment. >> it's interesting that it could be a third rail of bolton and we're wondering what he has to say about this and how important he could be. thank you very much. i want to go to sean patrick maloney who sits on the house intelligence committee. all right. you and i were both desperately trying to re-do this as greg was laying some of it out. these are now very deep concerns that were raised before the call. they were raised after the call. john bolton himself had a very serious issue with all of it. >> it's consistent with the whistle-blower complaint that was alarmed by this call. there are people still down there who still have a more compass, who are career professionals and care about the national security and know this is wrong. these facts will come out. it is telling that this supports why the president was desperate to stop ambassador sondland from testifying before the congress because he knows the truth. we should get the truth. >> obviously, he stopped sondland. you want the ambassador that was removed so suddenly and because of allegations that she was anti-trump or whatever it was. ambassador ivanovich, she obviously could be very important to all of this as well. she's supposed to be testifying. >> i'll be in washington. >> is she going to be there? >> i certainly hope so. i hope she follows the lead of ambassador volker. it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to stop her. >> she's still an employee of the state department. >> they need to instruct her and they haven't done that yet, but look, we know that they are -- look, everybody in this white house right now is either trying to clean it up or cover it up, but there are some people who want to get to the packs and i'm okay with that. i'm okay with the truth. i think that if the american people can just know the facts we'd be better off, and i think the key witnesses who were there and saw what happened should be allowed to testify. stories leak the one with mr. giuliani today only underscore how shady he was dealing with. >> obviously he does take pictures of people and there were obviously multiple. he says you would have to ask rudy. i just don't know. do you believe him? >> we've seen denials like that over stormy daniels where the president has flat-out saying something it's not true. it's possible. presidents do take a lot of people, but not many people give $325,000 to the super pac and not a lot of people pump that kind of money illegally into a campaign. >> that's true. >> when you meet with those people they're different kinds of meetings and i don't know what is true or not, but what i can tell you is these people were breaking american laws. they should not have been involved in our politics. they pumped millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands into the main super pac and they may be the clients who were paying for rudy giuliani's activities in ukraine. we should know who was paying for rudy giuliani's trips to ukraine, by the way. we don't know that. were these his clients? were these criminals paying him to engage in this activity? >> do you think giuliani did anything illegal? >> i don't know. i hope not. look, i'm old-fashioned about this. i don't want the american president or his senior advisers to be doing something wrong. it breaks my heart to think that an american president is engaged in this level of mendacity and shady conduct. let him come up and explain himself. let's see the documents and let's see the documents from the people who were there. i can live with the facts. apparently the white house cannot. >> the house democrat his requested documents and testimony from these two individuals who were arrested today. our understanding is the criminal case then will take precedence. so does this actually hurt your investigation? how important were they if all of a sudden they're kind of off the table. is that the information that you needed to have and i think it's important that we stay focussed the on the president's conduct. there are other people who will look at these other facts. there are other parts of the government that can hold people accountable. our job is tell the american people what happened. what the president did and how it affected the national security and hold him accountable because no one is above the law and that's where our focus needs to be. >> congressman, i appreciate your time. thank you very much. we will see if ambassador ivanovich does show up and as far as the congressman knows hohas not yet gotten direction from team trump. the two associates have been arrested. the president not rushing to rudy's defense tonight. >> well, i hope not. again, i don't know how he knows these people. it's easy to move forward when you're ready for what comes next. at fidelity, we make sure you have a clear plan to cover the essentials in retirement, as well as all the things you want to do. and on the way, you'll get timely investment help to keep you on the right track, without the unnecessary fees you might expect from so many financial firms. because when you have a partner who gives you clarity at every step, there's nothing to stop you from moving forward. who gives you clarity at every step, no matter what life throws down ♪ roomba is up for the challenge. only roomba uses 2 multi-surface rubber brushes that powerfully clean up debris on all your floors. and only the roomba i7+ system empties its bin into allergenlock™ bags that trap 99% of allergens. forget about vacuuming for months. if it's not from irobot, it's not a roomba™ unitedhealthcare medicare advantage plans have a lot to take advantage of like medicare's largest health care network. hey, that's my dermatologist! $0 copays on all primary care doctor visits plus rewards for preventive care. go ahead, take advantage. ♪ do you recall, not long ago ♪ we would walk on the sidewalk ♪ ♪ all around the wind blows ♪ we would only hold on to let go ♪ ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we need someone to lean on ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we needed somebody to lean on ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ all we need is someone to lean on ♪ that's why xfinity mobile lets you design your own data. you can share 1, 3, or 10 gigs of data between lines, mix in lines of unlimited, and switch it up at any time. all with millions of secure wifi hotspots and the best lte everywhere else. it's a different kind of wireless network, designed to save you money. switch and save up to $400 a year on your wireless bill. plus, get $250 back when you buy an eligible phone. that's simple. easy. awesome. call, click, or visit a store today. >>> breaking news. president trump telling our own kaitlan kohlencollins he hopes giuliani will not be indicted after two associates tried to help him dig up dirt on the bidens, they were arrested for illegally funneling foreign money and it was hardly full throated. here's how he put it when she asked. >> are you concerned that rudy giuliani could be indicted in all of this? >> well, i hope not. again, i don't know how he knows these people. >> out front now, former senior adviser to president trump and host of the axe files, david axelrod and chief political analy analyst gloria borger and john dean and donald air and one of 16 attorneys many of whom worked in republican administrations who released a statement today calling for an expeditious impeachment probe. gloria, let me start with you, i hope not is trump's response on whether he's concerned rudy giuliani could be indicted. from a president who doesn't hesitate to lash out and viscerate and triple down in innocence, this doesn't sound like he's backing his man. >> he didn't come out and say this is a complete witch hunt, the indictment is a fraud and a phony. he said, i hope not. and so -- and he said you have to ask rudy if he knows these people, and it sounded a lot like the way he was treating michael cohen before michael cohen became his ex attorney. >> i'm going to ask that in just a moment. david, let me do that. asked about the situation today, trump denied knowing the men that were associates of rudy giuliani who were arrested and he said ask rudy giuliani. let me play that. >> i don't know those gentlemen. now it's possible i have a picture with them because i have a picture with everybody. i don't know them. i don't know about them. i don't know what they do, but -- i don't know. maybe they were clients of rudy. you'd have to ask rudy. >> so the point that gloria just made, david, it sounds a whole lot like this infamous exchange that trump had with reporters about then-personal attorney michael cohen's hush money payment to stormy daniels. here it is. >> do you know about the $130,000 to stormy daniels? >> no. no. >> you'd have to ask michael cohen. michael is my attorney and you'd have to ask michael. >> david, you'll have to ask michael cohen. you'll have to ask rudy. it sure sounds like the same show. >> yeah. sounds like the sound of a branch being sawed off behind these guys, and i think that that, you know, the president uses these people to do his political chores and when it becomes inconvenient he separates himself from them. it's very tough given the exposure that rudy giuliani has had over the last two years and particularly through this episode to divorce himself from rudy. after all, rudy giuliani was the guy he wanted the president of ukraine to meet with, to discuss these matters of the bidens and ukraine's role in 2016 and so on. so it's pretty hard to jetson rudy now. >> it certainly sounds like that, john, and look, the two that were arrested today, associates of giuliani were helping him to dig up bidens in ukraine and pushing for the u.s. ambassador for ukraine to be kicked out. she eventually was and today officials said, look, their arrests are not the end of this. what they said rudy giuliani could be very ominous. here they are. >> we will not hesitate to investigate and prosecute those who engage in criminal conduct that draws into question the integrity of our political process, and i want to add that this investigation is continuing. >> should giuliani be concerned that he may be next, john? >> i think he certainly should be. a couple of reasons, one, it's very unusual for the southern district to come out and make these kinds of announcements. they did it with michael cohen. they did it with jeffrey episteiepstein and these are cases that they know the boss doesn't like and they're making it clear the presence is intact. secondly, if they read an indictment and it is an ongoing conspiracy. four people were named in the indictment and it is a very strong and very brief indictment. it's clearly an ongoing and potential in the indictment. they say the conspiracy is continuing and as they said in the press conference, they're still investigating. >> so, donald, look, this comes as "the washington post" is reporting at least four national security officials and i don't know if you heard the reporter and we should know that at least, with emphasis on at least raised alarms about what was happening with ukraine specifically about digging up dirt on the bidens and the debunked conspiracy theory on their role in the election and that they were doing so before the call. and when they heard the call within hours it got moved to the super secret server. it certainly screams at this point that there were a lot of people who knew it was wrong and an immediate urge to cover up donald. >> well, this is an interesting example of something that with president trump we've seen over and over again, and that is things got deeper and thicker and more disturbing information comes out and it's sometimes an dwafrntage for him because we get distracted from what we already know otherwise. i was one of the folks thatsign what we do now and what she's shared with us and the call he had with the president of u crip and the public announce chlt that ought tab investigating and find dirt on the bidens. we know already and this is all very interesting and it will lead to more incriminating information, but we already know that the president has violated his oath of office. we already know that the president has used his powers in order to bargain for personal benefits here of the worst kind. essentially aid and digging up dirt on political opponents and we know all we need to know to know that he should be impeached and what we're finding out now is more facts that pile on top and it will be interesting to watch. it will unfold and we'll get a lot of information and we shouldn't be distracted from what what we already know to be true and that's one of the problems with the amount of bad behavior that this president engages in. it distracts us. >> david axelrod, to that point, in this washington post report they are reporting that john bolton went balist being when these topics came up with gordon sondland and the guy who donated to him and the ambassador of the european union that jon bolton went ballistic and i also want to play for you because i don't know if you are aware that this just happened, and former national security h.r. mcmaster has now spoken out about this and i want to play for you what he just said. >> do you think it is appropriate for the president of the united states to solicit foreign interference in our political process? thank you. >> of course, no. no. absolutely not. of course, it's not appropriate. >> david, h.r. mcmaster is obviously a very respected person. he at one time pushed the president's story about leaking classified information or sharing classified information with the foreign minister of russia. you now have h.r. mcmaster speaking out and john bolton said this was wrong. when you have so many people that are so respected and people may or may not agree with their politics, very senior who clearly think this is wrong, does thshgs daviis, david, star affect republicans? >> you know, i think the thing that might affect republicans is republican voters. the thing that is frightening republicans is the prospect of being tagged by trump and losing primaries, but i want to make a point on bolton and mcmaster for that matter. i think gloria was on the same show was that he scorned bolton. he humiliated bolton and bolton is an institution in washington and even though there are people who don't like the things he's done and he's got a lot of relationships. >> yep. >> his fingerprints in my view, are all over a lot of these stories because he was a witness to a lot of these things and this is the most obvious example. i think this will be a problem for the president and all of these people he scorned have no reason to do him any favors here. >> go ahead, gloria. >> i want to add to what david is saying and you talk about changing republicans' minds and they're not going to shift until public opinion shifts ahead of them and then they would follow and the question i have hearing mcmaster today and how they're refusing who was asked according to a story he said he would not do. >> where is mat? secretary of defense and these people who are no longer in the administration would have a great deal of impact if they came out together and said this is a problem. i don't know, david, maybe they would have some impact. >> no, i think there is a drip, drip, drip nature to this that could change public opinion, but when you ask how are republican politicians will behave? the reason they're hanging back and not commenting on what they know to be wrong is because they're just too concerned about the political implications of taking on a president who still has an 87 or something percent approval rating among republican voters. >> donald, in your letter which you wrote with the 16 other attorneys who many of them served under republicans. you do say we believe the acts revealed publicly are fundamentally incompatible with the president's oath of office and h and his duties as commander in chief and his constitutional obligation to take care that the laws be faithfully executed. are you concerned that there is a whole investigation here and therefore, to the public the perception that there's more information needed is actually going to slow this whole thing down to a point where it loses that momentum? >> well, i think there is a challenge for the democrats and the folks on the hill that are running the investigation, and that is to move as quickly as possible and to make some hard judgments about how wide ranging. unfortunately, i think this president is probably guilty of numerous, numerous high crimes and misdemeanors that could be put into a bill of impeachment, and the question is bell, how many are we going to include. i'm not saying they have to do it in the next two weeks, i think that would be premature and it seems to me we already know the answer and the question should be. >> john dean, what would you say is the timing from here? >> somewhere between the end of the year and the 2020 election. i can't predict exactly when it's going to come down. i think the house will move obviously with some dispatch and whether there will ever be a senate trial is up for grabs still. i think a crafted, a well-crafted articles of impeachment that do pass the house could put a lot of members on the senate on the spot. >> well, and it's also very interesting. i will say that you're saying the end of the year between the end of the year and the actual election itself as many would hope that this is all done before that. thank you also very much. thank you all for joining us. our special with the 2020 town hall begins now. ♪ ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >>> good evening and welcome to the cnn democratic presidential town hall equality in america. i want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world from the novo in los angeles. i'm dana bash. it has been 50 years since the riots had stonewalled and the riots against police oppression
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conducted by rudy giuliani to try to extract from a foreign government, a promise to go after a political rival. that's simply unprecedented in u.s. history. and it's a kind of shakedown we've never seen before in the conduct of u.s. foreign policy. it's a sellout of our basic principles, and they proceeded to try to cover the whole thing up. having said that, there is a lot of interest in exactly how explicit this arrangement was and i think that those are the kinds of details being filled in by the parade of witnesses that have come in. over the last several days we've had some very honorable public servants and foreign service professionals come in to talk about -- >> to be noted. and notably in defiance of what was a white house attempt to keep them from testifying. we just showed pictures of gordon sondland arriving. he is now there on the hill to begin his testimony. quickly, before we go, as you know, yes, these witnesses are testifying but many of the documents, communications, text messages, emails you've demanded have been blocked. can you build a case, credibly, if the white ho
conducted by rudy giuliani to try to extract from a foreign government, a promise to go after a political rival. that's simply unprecedented in u.s. history. and it's a kind of shakedown we've never seen before in the conduct of u.s. foreign policy. it's a sellout of our basic principles, and they proceeded to try to cover the whole thing up. having said that, there is a lot of interest in exactly how explicit this arrangement was and i think that those are the kinds of details being filled in...
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about the pressure being directed at ukraine by mr. trump and his private lawyer, rudy giuliani, to pursue investigations into mr. trump's political rivals according to people familiar with mr. kent's warnings. as far back as march, they said, mr. kent pointed to mr. giuliani's role in what he called a disinformation campaign intended to use ukrainian prosecutor to smear mr. trump's adversaries. those included former vice president joseph biden, marie yovanovitch, then the united states ambassador to ukraine and ukrainians who disseminated damaging information during the 2016 campaign about mr. trump's campaign chairman, paul manafort. late last night "the new york times" reported that then-national security adviser john bolton was alarmed by the ukraine scandal and told an aide to tell white house lawyers what was going on. the "times" reports mr. bolton got into a tense exchange on july 10th with gordon sondland working with rudy giuliani, the president's personal lawyer, to press ukraine to investigate democrats according to three people who heard the testimony. that is the testi
about the pressure being directed at ukraine by mr. trump and his private lawyer, rudy giuliani, to pursue investigations into mr. trump's political rivals according to people familiar with mr. kent's warnings. as far back as march, they said, mr. kent pointed to mr. giuliani's role in what he called a disinformation campaign intended to use ukrainian prosecutor to smear mr. trump's adversaries. those included former vice president joseph biden, marie yovanovitch, then the united states...
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back, two friends of rudy giuliani who have worked with rudy giuliani were described by their lawyer as members of donald trump's legal team. they have also been described as alleged criminals working for russian gangsters, and they are actually currently indicted. former justice department official matt miller will join us to connect those dots along with former federal prosecutor mimi rocah, next. ♪ about 50% of people with severe asthma have too many cells called eosinophils in their lungs. eosinophils are a key cause of severe asthma. fasenra is designed to target and remove these cells. fasenra is an add-on injection for people 12 and up with asthma driven by eosinophils. fasenra is not a rescue medicine or for other eosinophilic conditions. fasenra is proven to help prevent severe asthma attacks, improve breathing, and can lower oral steroid use. fasenra may cause allergic reactions. get help right away if you have swelling of your face, mouth, and tongue, or trouble breathing. don't stop your asthma treatments unless your doctor tells you to. tell your doctor if you have a p
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>>> hi everybody. two associates of rudy giuliani arrested this morning due in court in virginia later today for violating campaign finance laws. it has to do with ukraine. they allegedly gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to a donald trump super pac and the indictment even mentions efforts to push out the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. let's get much more on this as these details are still coming out. cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez is joining me now with the details. 21 pages, this indictment is. what are you learning from it? >> well, kate, i think the bottom line of this indictment is that for the first time now we're getting some information from the prosecutors in manhattan that ties some of the foreign influence money that these two men are charged with essentially trying to scheme to bring into the u.s. political system with the efforts that the president of the united states and his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani which we know in recent days have shown they were involved in an effort to try to remove the u.s. ambassador in ukraine. she's now going to become
>>> hi everybody. two associates of rudy giuliani arrested this morning due in court in virginia later today for violating campaign finance laws. it has to do with ukraine. they allegedly gave hundreds of thousands of dollars to a donald trump super pac and the indictment even mentions efforts to push out the u.s. ambassador to ukraine. let's get much more on this as these details are still coming out. cnn's senior justice correspondent evan perez is joining me now with the...
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. >>> the breaking news of the hour is, big surprise, it was giuliani. rudy giuliani told cnn tonight that the very strange package of information that the state department and inspector general rushed over to congress today was originally sent to the secretary of state by rudy giuliani himself. a written statement by three house chairmen tonight came very close to accusing rudy giuliani of that, and a couple of hours later, rudy giuliani just confessed. rudy giuliani and donald trump are now in a very close contest for the title of most out of control person in trump world. today donald trump attacked the intelligence community whistle-blower and made it clear that donald trump does not care that he is endangering the life of the whistle-blower. bradley moss, a national security lawyer whose law firm is representing the whistle-blower, will join us tonight with reaction to what the president said about the whistle-blower today, and to clarify for us what contact the whistle-blower might have had with the house intelligence committee before the whistle-blower's complaint became public
. >>> the breaking news of the hour is, big surprise, it was giuliani. rudy giuliani told cnn tonight that the very strange package of information that the state department and inspector general rushed over to congress today was originally sent to the secretary of state by rudy giuliani himself. a written statement by three house chairmen tonight came very close to accusing rudy giuliani of that, and a couple of hours later, rudy giuliani just confessed. rudy giuliani and...
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centering around the two ukrainians, the two associates of rudy giuliani and what we've learned is from an attorney who has represented ukrainians, high-level ukrainians in the past told sara murray agents came to him as early as february or march of this year asking questions about these two associates, the work they were doing, about rudy giuliani. this tells us this is a much larger investigation. i want to remind folks that this is a lot of what we saw during the mueller investigation. several parts going on. you had the parallel -- >> investigations. >> -- investigations. public investigation conducted by fbi agents and separately counterintelligence. counter intelligence has to do with national security. the big concern here, saying it from talking to folks that people were trying to influence policy working outside the normal channels of the state department, back-door channels, getting to rudy giuliani who had the ear of the president to try and influence policy. that is a big part of what the fbi and the counter intelligence invessel gatien involves. trying to see whether or no
centering around the two ukrainians, the two associates of rudy giuliani and what we've learned is from an attorney who has represented ukrainians, high-level ukrainians in the past told sara murray agents came to him as early as february or march of this year asking questions about these two associates, the work they were doing, about rudy giuliani. this tells us this is a much larger investigation. i want to remind folks that this is a lot of what we saw during the mueller investigation....
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them. happy friday, october 11th. 5:00 a.m. in the east. we start with the stunning and dramatic airport arrest that could have links to the ukraine scandal engulfing the white house. two associates of rudy giuliani, arrested on charges they viol e violated campaign finance laws including donations they made to a trump super pac. they are soviet-born citizens. they were detained on wednesday, after the feds learned they had one-way tickets out of the country. >> giuliani told "the wall street journal", they were traveling to vienna, where giuliani was also headed. starting in november of last year, the two men helped him in the ukraine, digging up dirt on democratic candidate, joe biden. you can see the two men here in this twitter video. we don't know where or when the video was shot. but we know the three met for lunch on wednesday before the men headed to the airport. president trump denies he knows them. >> i don't know those gentlemen. it's possible i have a picture with them. i have a picture with everybody. i don't know them. i don't know what they do. maybe they were clients of rudy. you'd have to ask rudy. >> as it happens, yes, there is a photo of the president with at least one of the men. here it is. jessica schneider has more of the details here. >> reporter: the two men could be key characters in this broader ukraine impeachment inquiry. that's because of a few things. rudy giuliani has said that they helped dig up dirt in ukraine on the president's political rivals, including joe biden. also the two men introduced giuliani to former and current officials. and the indictment alleges that the two men asked for the help of a former u.s. congressman, that we learned is a texas republican, pete sessions. they asked him to help with the firing of the united states ambassador to ukraine. she was fired in may, mostly at the behest of rudy giuliani. the two men were arrested late night at dulles airport. the prosecutors had to act fast here. they did not plan to unseal the indictment on thursday. but the two men had one-way tickets. prosecutors had to act fast to unseal the indictment and make the arrest. these two men, along with others, are facing several charges, including conspiracy and false statements and funneling foreign money. they were putting money in a trump-aligned pac. the two are accused of funneling in $1 million from a russian national that they put toward other state candidates in nevada here. these men are facing charges in new york but will be held in virginia. and they are facing new congressional subpoenas. congressional investigators want to know their role in ukraine and their relationship with rudy giuliani. >>> as jessica just mentioned, the two giuliani associates were subpoenaed by house democrats in connection with their impeachment inquiry. and they were not the only ones. manu raju is on capitol hill with the details. >> reporter: subpoena after subpoena, now coming out to demand documents, as democrats try to move to wrap up this impeachment probe in the coming weeks. potentially decide whether or not to impeach this president as soon as thanksgiving. the latest information subpoena for rick perry, the energy secretary, over conversations that he had with president zelensky of ukraine and with president trump and rudy giuliani, is part of giuliani and trump's efforts to get the ukraine government to investigate joe biden. perry said he did not speak to zelensky at all about the bidens. he said it was all about energy and energy issues. but democrats have raised concerns about some of the conversations, saying this in their letter to perry, saying these reports have raised significant questions about your efforts to press ukrainian officials to change the management structure at a company to benefit officials with rudy giuliani's push to get ukrainian officials to interfere in the 2020 elections. this comes amid the subpoenas that have gone out to the white house. the white house and the office of budget. the pentagon, and giuliani and giuliani associates, including the two arrested yesterday. democrats hope to get energy. if they don't, the white house continues to deny their demands, expect that to be rolled into an article of impeachment against this president because what they say is that the president is obstructing congress from doing its job. no matter what happens here, the democrats believe they could get more evidence to go after the president and potentially more evidence on obstruction of congress. back to you. >> manu raju, thank you. >>> breaking news. the nobel peace prize has been announced. it was awarded to the prime minister of ethiopia. he was credited with ending the war in which 100,000 people died. he helped to broker a power-sharing deal in sudan. >>> breaking overnight, an iranian oil tanker with an explosion in the red sea. it says it was hit by missiles. oil prices are already soaring. e approach to managing money. that for over 85 years has 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important oil producer. the biggest oil exporter. it is like the central bank of the oil market. we should know these moves are not really that dramatic. 2% move, compared to what we saw a month ago, when saudi arabia was hit by the attacks and its production was wiped out, more than half of it was wiped out. we saw prices spike by 15%. the biggest gain since 2009. prices have come back since they got production back online. and there's concerns about the global economy. but listen. we just learned the last few hours, that the situation can change rapidly in the oil market. >> absolutely. >> the whole planet, though, all eyes on the white house today. u.s./china trade talks resume. what are your expectations? >> it's so interesting. the stomack market has been livg and dying on every headline that's come out of the trade talks. it's an emotional rollercoaster. there are some signs of progress. president trump said that things are going pretty well. i think we should caution people. the odds of a sweeping agreement, seemed limited right now. there's too many obstacles before they can reach any sort of really big deal. but maybe there could be a limited deal. maybe china agrees to buy more agricultural products. maybe the united states decides not to increase tariffs. they're supposed to go up on october 15th and again on consumer goods from china in december. maybe there will be an agreement like that. but a sweeping deal doesn't look like it's in the offing just yet. >> do you see think a minideal better than an escalation. i'm not sure the u.s. economy can handle a severe escalation in this trade war. it's dealing a lot of pain to the economy, to the manufacturing sector. then, a minideal would be welcome because it's better. it would leave a lot of uncertainty with the economy and for businesses and for investors. i don't know that a minideal is going to be quite enough. >> yeah. it's not clear if the president is willing to accept a minideal. he needs a political win, not just to fuel the markets. but job openings, you're seeing this impact the job openings numbers. how so? >> obviously he wants a political win and an economic win. we've seen job openings in august. they went down to an 18-month low. they're down three-straight months. we haven't seen that since the great recession. that's important to keep an eye on. before employers, think of firing, they are slow hiring. that's why we watch the job opening numbers. the trade is having a role here. manufacturing jobs are down sharply. we need to keep an eye on that. the trade war is playing a role. >> this is the time we're watching every piece of data and every report, because we're trying to get indications whether or not we are headed for a recession or not. and we're getting mixed signals from the economy. >> we are. the fed chief, he thinks the economy is in a good place right now. but he did say, jay powell said, he thinks there's risks facing the economy. and the fed's own models are showing there are risks right now. at 35%, from the new york fed. it is suggesting that there are some risks ahead. >> 35% in the next 12 months. that's a scary warning. matt egan, have a good weekend. >>> coming up, the series that everybody was waiting for. the houston astros/new york yankees, for a spot in the world series. show you what happened in game five last night. all our friends are here this morning. from matt egan to carolinein the bleacher report. no signal goes farther or is more reliable. so you can get more out of the new iphone. better battery life, new ultra-wide camera, now on a network that goes farther than ever. and right now, switch at a t-mobile store and get the new iphone on us! that's right, the new iphone on us! only at t-mobile. was in an accident. when i called usaa, it was that voice asking me, "is your daughter ok?" that's where i felt relief. we're the rivera family and we plan to be with usaa for life. see how much you can save with usaa insurance. 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question to houston rockets players about the nba standoff with china. watch this. >> the nba has been a league that prides itself on its players and coaches to be able to speak out openly about political and societal affairs. i wonder about the events this week and the fallout we've seen, if you would both feel differently about speaking out in that way in the future. >> excuse me. we want basketball questions only. >> this is a legitimate question. this is an event that happened during the nba. this particular question has not been answered. james? >> any other question? >> christina joins us, live from tokyo. good morning. this seemed odd because i know the nba commissioner adam silver has said publicly, to his players, look, if there's something you want to speak out about, we're okay with it. what happened here? >> yeah. it was disappointing, allison. i felt that james harden did want to reply to my question. as you saw, he was prevented from doing so. in the aftermath of that press conference, i was called by the nba. they gave me an apology and wrote up an official statement to apologize what happened, as well. this is from their chief communications director. they said, during today's houston rockets media availability, a team representative inappropriately interjected to christina mcfarlane from getting an answer to her question. and what it exposed was the utter confusion that exists in the nba as to how to handle this fallout. it's been one week, seven days, since the managing director of the rockets sent that tweet in support of hong kong. but the reality is, nothing of the players could have said could help the nba in their predictment. they are stuck between a rock and a hard place, protecting their interests in china and their core values. a source from the nba told me that the reason the press conferences are canceled in shanghai and the match between the lakers and the nets, because they were permitted -- they were permitted not to occur. they 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"early start" continues right now. >>> two associates of rudy giuliani arrested with one-way tickets at the airport. they're charged with campaign finance violations and their linked to the ukraine scandal. >>> a former ambassador to the ukraine set to testify in the impeachment inquiry, if she's allowed to go. will the white house block her. >>> gnco, meeting with leadership, trying to find an end to the amongst-long auto workers strike. >> it's a legitimate question. this is an event that happened this week during the nba. >>> it's 30 minutes past the hour. and a stunning and dramatic airport arrest that could have links to the ukraine scandal engulfing the white house. two associates of rudy giuliani were arrested on charges they violated campaign finance laws, including donations they made to a pro-trump super pac. the men are soviet-born citizens. they were detained at dulles airport on wednesday, after the feds learned they had one-way tickets out of the country. >> giuliani told "the wall street journal," the men were traveling to vienna, where giuliani was headed. the two men helped him in ukraine, digging up dirt on democratic candidate joe biden. you see them with giuliani in a twitter video. we don't know when or where the video was shot, but the three met for lunch on wednesday, before the men headed for the airport. president trump denies he knows them. >> i don't know those gentlemen. it's possible i have a picture with them because i have a picture with everybody. i don't know them. i don't know what they do. maybe they were clients of rudy. you'd have to ask rudy. >> as it happens, yes, there is a photo of the president with at least one of the men. here it is. jessica schneider has more of the details here. >> reporter: the two men could be key characters in this broader ukraine impeachment inquiry. that's because of a few things. rudy giuliani has said that they helped dig up dirt in ukraine on the president's political rivals, including joe biden. also the two men introduced giuliani to former and current officials. and the indictment alleges that the two men asked for the help of a former u.s. congressman, that we learned is a texas republican, pete sessions. they asked him to help with the firing of the united states ambassador to ukraine. she was fired in may, mostly at the behest of rudy giuliani. the two men were arrested late night at dulles airport. the prosecutors had to act fast here. they did not plan to unseal the indictment on thursday. but the two men had one-way tickets. prosecutors had to act fast to unseal the indictment and make the arrest. these two men, along with others, are facing several charges, including conspiracy and false statements and funneling foreign money. they were putting money in a trump-aligned pac. the two are accused of funneling in $1 million from a russian national that they put toward other state candidates in nevada here. these men are facing charges in new york but will be held in virginia on $1 million bond, in the meantime. and they are facing new congressional subpoenas. congressional investigators want to know their role in ukraine and their relationship with rudy giuliani. >>> as jessica just mentioned, the two giuliani associates were subpoenaed by house democrats in connection with their impeachment inquiry. and they were not the only ones. manu raju is on capitol hill. >> reporter: subpoena after subpoena, now coming out to demand documents, as democrats try to move to wrap up this impeachment probe in the coming weeks. potentially decide whether or not to impeach this president as soon as thanksgiving. the latest information subpoena for rick perry, the energy secretary, over conversations that he had with president zelensky of ukraine and with president trump and rudy giuliani, is part of giuliani and trump's efforts to get the ukraine government to investigate joe biden. he said it was all about energy and energy issues. but democrats have raised concerns about some of the conversations, saying this in their letter to perry, saying these reports have raised significant questions about your efforts to press ukrainian officials to change the management structure at a company to benefit officials with rudy giuliani's push to get ukrainian officials to interfere in the 2020 elections. this comes amid the subpoenas that have gone out to the white house. the white house and the office of budget. the pentagon, and giuliani and giuliani associates, including the two arrested yesterday. democrats hope to get energy. if they don't, the white house continues to deny their demands, expect that to be rolled into an article of impeachment against this president because what they say is that the president is obstructing congress from doing its job. no matter what happens here, the democrats believe they could get more evidence to go after the president and potentially more evidence on obstruction of congress. back to you. >> manu raju, thank 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these two arrested with one-way tickets to vienna. this is a cross between scooby doo and "spies like us" and then, this cover. "the three stooges" from "the new york daily news." how significant is this? when it comes to the inquiry and ukraine? >> it's fairly significant. these individuals are shown to be connected to people beyond giuliani. then, it's extremely significant. we know that giuliani was involved in various state department officials. and president trump, as well. advice on ukraine and they are pushing in this impeachment inquiry. the question of whether they were part of the quid pro quo, to withhold anything from milita military aid to diplomatic meetings with ukrainians until they looked at the energy company that employed joe biden's son for a while. this is a step that reads like a movie script in a way. it indicates the speed that this is moving. the scrutiny from congress and not just from a partisan perspective, but from federal prosecutors who are serve iing under who the president appoi appointed. that's a significant step on the gravity of this. this is a charge that involves the former congress mman. >> i was going to ask about your article here in "the washington post." you write about the political appointees overriding career staffers when it comes to the aid that was frozen to ukraine. can you talk to me about when the aid was frozen in relation to the call that president trump made to the ukraine president? and who froze it? >> that article focuses more on the office of management and budget. we knew previously, an order had come from the president to freeze and hold up ukraine's aid on jewel uly 18th. that's a week before the president and ukrainian president spoke in that phone call that has formed the centerpiece of what spurred democrats to move into this impeachment inquiry. they believe what they've seen in that transcript, is the implied quid pro quo, given that president trump asked the ukrainian president for a favor, when he brings up the question of aid. what this article adds to that, it shows there was a political official in charge of these decisions, that being michael duffy. he was signing off on the letter. and it goes to show that, you know, this is not standard practice. there were concerns from state officials, department officials, from capitol hill, because they were in the dark and being told there were short-term holds on this. the fact this was being orchestrated or directed by a political appointee raises questions about why it objects registered. >> the former ukraine envoy is expected to testify. you think the white house will stop her? if she does testify, will she speak openly? >> this is the question, right? the white house has issued that letter, saying we will not cooperate. we're waiting to see if the state department has overnight or will be issuing a direct order to her not to testify. she's no longer the ambassador to ukraine. but she is a state department employee. it's the house's next move. do they subpoena her? there were discussions of issuing a quote/unquote friendly subpoena that would enable her to have an argument of a deposition without a summons. the next few hours are going to be so indicative of how this is going to go, whether it will be smooth or a fight. >> she is going to show up at 10:00 a.m. >> have a great weekend. but you won't. you will with working on this all weekend long. thanks for being here. >> have a good weekend anyway. >> we'll be right back. and getting her car towed. all i had to take care of was making sure that my daughter was ok. if i met another veteran, and they were with another insurance company, i would tell them, you need to join usaa because they have better rates, and better service. we're the gomez family... we're the rivera family... we're the kirby family, and we are usaa members for life. get your auto insurance quote today. the pain and swelling.. the psoriasis. cosentyx treats more than just the joint pain of active psoriatic arthritis. it even helps stop further joint damage. don't use if you're allergic to cosentyx. before starting, get checked for tuberculosis. an increased risk of infections and lowered ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor about an infection or symptoms, if your inflammatory bowel disease symptoms develop or worsen, or if you've had a vaccine or plan to. serious allergic reactions may occur. get real relief, with cosentyx. somand with the xfinityreen is stream app,reen. which is free with your service, you can take a spin through on demand shows or stream live tv. download your dvr'd shows and movies on the fly. even record from right where you are. keep what you watch with you. download the xfinity stream app today... ...because xfinity stream tv week is here. watch shows like south park and the walking dead now through october 13th. >>> turkish officials tweeting overnight that their military operation has killed more than 200 people whom they consider to be terrorists. among them, kurdish fighters that helped the u.s. defeat isis. nick paton walsh is at the turkish/syrian border for us. nick, what are you learning? >> reporter: he learned that turkey has said that two of the soldiers have died. the first casualties they've announced. they say in a statement, it occurred quite far inside syria. the town that is further away than many have thought might have been part of the turkish goals here. it's clear the goals are wide and continue to broaden in scope. the u.s. official i spoke to, thought they would start over there, where you saw us documenting some of the air strikes and artillery fire yesterday. these are huge stretches. and the foreign minister suggested they might go in 18 miles or 30 kilometers. we're hearing from nato's secretary-general who has been in turkey today, he is urging them to show restraint in this operation. and also, expressing concern, like many have, over the fate of the isis detainees, and the syrian kurds being forced here that are currently still holding. turkey moving forward with very little, it seems, concern for the broad criticism they are facing for many other nato members. we haven't seen this split like this since 2003. donald trump has confusingly tweeted overnight that he could send the american military to fix this. he could punish turkey with economic sanctions. he threatened to obliterate them a few days ago. or he would prefer to see a mediated situation. but i'm sure the trust level of the syrian kurds that were the allies of the u.s., and the trust among turkey, with the u.s., pretty low at this stage. but those inside syrian kurdish areas, tens of thousands on the move, a catastrophe is what many are fearing. back to you. >> the firefighter arsonist suggesting he would clean up a mess that he made. nick paton walsh, live along the syrian/turkey border. >>> bernie sanders skipping the town hall last night after suffering a heart attack. he sat down with sanjay gupta. he started off with slamming president trump with the arrest of two associates of rudy giuliani. >> nothing about trump ever shocks me. he is, i think, the most corrupt president in the modern history of america. i think the impeachment process is going to unveil so many things about this administration, that the american people have to know. but bottom line is, this is so clearly a president unfit to be holding the highest office in this country. >> the vermont senator discussed his heart attack and promised to release his medical records. and he talked about why it is critical for him to ramp up this campaign. >> from last tuesday, nine days now, is there any point that you said, what i think the best course of action is to drop out? >> no. because, you know, i don't know how -- again, you know, when you hear the word heart attack, you're thinking somebody lying on the ground, in terrible pain. that wasn't the case. okay? the day i woke up, after the procedure, no pain. zero pain. no pain right now. i feel really good. you know, my feeling was, once i assess the situation and learned what happened, given that my whole life struggled -- i don't mean to be, you know, overly dramatic here. but i spent my entire life trying to fight for justice. we struggled really hard to get to where we are right now, bring millions of people together in the fight for justice. and i'm not a quitter. >> you can see more of dr dr. gupta's interview with bernie sanders this morning on "new day." >>> get ready for what could be the make-or-break moment, the fourth presidential debate will be live from the state of ohio. the cnn and "new york times" presidential debate, tuesday night, 8:00 eastern time. >>> let's check on cnn business. let's look at markets around the world. asian markets closed higher. green arrows in european markets. on wall street, futures look like we could have a positive open to start friday morning. stocks closed higher on thursday. we saw a rally on hopes for a u.s./china trade deal. the dow finishes 151 points higher. the s&p 500, the nasdaq, ending the day in the green, as well. investors will be paying close attention to the second day of trade talks. president trump says he will meet with the chinese vice premier today. >>> amazon debuted a new website explaining its views on a number of hot-button issues its faced criticism for. the positions page, as it's called, includes issues like minimum wage, climate change and the rights of lgbtq people. amazon was criticized by's own employees by its practices. and several presidential candidates claims the company does not pay taxes. it's faced repeated attacks from president trump. amazon says while our positions are carefully considered and deeply held, there is much room for healthy debate and differing opinions. >>> nestle leaning into the plant-paced craze with two vegan alternatives. the company says it will begin selling vegan bacon and cheddar cheese to its food clients next year. it has a plant-based patty called the awesome burger. with the three new products, nestle is trying to create a space for itself in the rapidly expanding plant-based food market. restaurants like dunkin' and mcdonald's have begun selling unite items that feature plant-based alternatives. but those aren't fully vegan. also not fully vegan, bagels to wish dave a happy birthday. >> i'll take a birthday bagel. i have never had a birthday bagel in 43 years. you have cream cheese? 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"new day" starts right now. have a great weekend. >>> this is cnn breaking news. >>> welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world. this is "new day." it's friday, october 11th. it's 6:00 here in new york. there's a ton to get to this morning. we begin with life threatening breaking news. wildfires, deadly wildfires in southern california. there are winds there gusting over 60 miles per hour fanning the flames, forcing mandatory evacuations in the los angeles area. thousands of residents have been ordered to leave. many of whom were asleep as the fire started overnight. >> this has spread so quickly. dozens of homes have already burned. the scene looks devastating. two major freeways are shut down at this hour. you can imagine what that means for los angeles. let's get to nick watt. what's the scene, nick? >> reporter: well, alisyn, just the speed of this fire has been phenomenal. within about three hours this thing exploded to 1600 acres burning. none of that contained. we arrived at this scene about 20 minutes ago before the firefighters got here. desperate residents using yard hoses to try and beat back the flames. this house at the end of the cul-de-sac here has gone up in flames. firefighters are now on the scene trying to contain it. but this is like a game of whack-a-mole. there's a huge park in the canyon just behind there. as john mentioned, the wind is the issue. we have seen embers just flying around all morning here in the san fernando valley.
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mostly black district. part of baltimore as rat and rodent infested. he attacks others including adam schiff, nancy pelosi. chuck schumer who are the leaders of the party, the only lawmakers who got more negative tweets this summer than the congresswoman of color and cummings. take this into account. our live coverage continues with laura coates "white house in crisis: the impeachment inquiry." you got your work cut out for you. tell us what you have tonight. >> first of all i can't believe that happened in my home state of minnesota actually having boos for people who are immigrants to that particular state in our country. that is shocking to me and it just reiterates the point time and time again that people don't realize it's washington, d.c. or goth am city. you can be a hero without vil niezing people. this is quite a week. i can tell you, don. of all the weeks it's quite a week and things keep happening quickly and quickly. you cannot turn away, can you? >> you can't turn away. i can't believe that we talked about, the somali refugees is coming out of the president's mouth, what he says at those rallies on the white house lawn and on and on and the people he surrounds himself with, laura, all the best people. >> he knows lots of great words too. that's not really the point. today we're talking about so many things about what is at stake for the president of the united states going forward and surrounds himself with people who says the best people. tonight we're focusing on somebody he is surrounded himself for quite some time. and we're wondering if he's going to have that 10 foot pole come out now, the distancing himself. we've seen this before. michael cohen has got to be sitting asking himself why didn't anyone see this sooner? >> why me? he's saying why -- >> saying a lot of things. >> probably watching now. why me? >> let's get to the news. >>> this is a cnn special hour, "the white house in crisis: the impeachment inquiry." i'm laura coates. tonight i'm going to take you through the top headlines and late breaking news on the impeachment inquiry into donald trump. headlines and breaking news rudy giuliani reported to be under investigation by federal prosecutors according to "the new york times," sources telling the times inves gators are looking into whether he broke lobbying laws in his dealings in ukrainian, that as president trump says he doesn't know if giuliani is still his lawyer. both giuliani and president trump in focus on capitol hill today as marie i canyovanovitch testified about what she calls false claims. and what she calls false claims. the president facing major set backs in court after five rulings against him including one over his financial records. what does it mean for the impeachment inquiry? we'll get into that with cnn political commentators. let's begin with sara murray following the developments in the impeachment inquiry and the a late-breaking story within the trump administration. >> that's right. another departure from the white house. that's kevin mcaleenan. he submitted his resignation tonight. he served since april. and a source says he felt he had accomplished all he could. since an immigration deal in congress doesn't seem likely. sources say the announcement has been planned for weeks and wants to spend time with his family. this may be a small set back for the trump administration, but of course a bigger cloud looms over the white house and that is the impeachment inquiry. >> as marie i donyovanovitch testified, president trump appeared to waiver on whether he still considers giuliani his personal attorney. >> i haven't spoken to rudy. i spoke to him briefly yesterday. ahe has been my attorney, sewer. >> giuliani moved quickly to tell a cnn report yes he represents the president. but a source tells cnn giuliani won't be dealing with ukraine issues. this as sources say the president has expressed concerns about his personal attorney after two associates were arrested and charged with campaign finance violations as they tried to leave the country. both men had been helping giuliani in his quest for dirt on the bidens. more details meanwhile were coming out in a closed door deposition with i canyovanovitc 33 year veteran of the foreign service. i do not know mr. giuliani's motives for attacking me she said in a statement. but individuals who have been named in the press as contacts of mr. giuliani may well have believed their personal financial ambitions were stymied by anticorruption policy in ukraine. >> this is a good person who was thrown to the wolves by mr. giuliani who was representing the financial interests of his indicted associated and by president trump who is advancing his political interests in trying to get an investigation started of the bidens. >> after being asked to extend her tenure to 2020, yovanovitch testified she was told to catch the next plane home. she was incredulous that the u.s. government chose to e are move an ambassador based, as best as i could tell, on unfounded and false claims by the people with clearly questionable motives. she said the department had been under pressure by the president to remove me. while trump trashed the ambassador in the july call with the ukrainian president, tonight he played dumb. >> she may be a wonderful woman, i don't know her. >> yovanovitch's appearance today assigned stone wall may crumble in the face of congressional subpoenas. next week gore dan sondland also attends to testify under subpoena according to his attorneys. after yovanovitch's full day of testimony, democrats came away saying she was a powerful and credible witness. republicans took issue with the process saying this should all be conducted in public. back to you. >> sarah, thank you. joining me now mark mckinnon and carrie cordero. "the new york times" is reporting that federal investigators are looking at whether giuliani broke lobbying laws in ukraine. talk to me about the legal implications of all of this. >> so, i think what they're referring to in these reports are the fara, foreign agents registration act which ironically is the same criminal statute that paul manafort, michael flynn both were implicated in and charged with. and what it involves is when you're representing a foreign interest, that could be a foreign person or a foreign government and you don't register properly with the justice department. so, it's a registration requirement. so, the question is if that's what they are -- and again this is just this new report. if that's what the government is investigating him for, then the question is whether he followed this law, whether he registered, and it's a criminal violation. there could be -- you know, there could be other things too. when they made those arrests the other night of his two associates, they just charged him with one charge on four different violations. it looked to to me like there was a lot of ongoing investigation that they had to quickly amend so they could file those charges, and there's probably a lot going on behind the scenes. >> and they can of course still add charges to the guys. it's not once the indictment is issued. >> exactly. >> mark, president trump is saying he doesn't even know if rudy giuliani is still his lawyer. is he too tainted at this point for the president to even acknowledge him any longer? >> no question that he is. when the president's lawyer is lawyering up, you can't be the president's lawyer anymore. and not only lawyering up but lawyering up on the issue, the very issue and the very country that's involved in the central investigation of the impeachment. so, rudy giuliani -- i mean the president already today was talking in the past tense about rudy giuliani. so, i think he's gone quickly. and really the two associates that were involved beg so many questions. and it's hard to kind of keep this puzzle straight. but think about it. they're helping rudy giuliani dig up dirt on joe biden. but at the same time, they have problems with the ambassador apparently reportedly because they were trying to get these special gas deals and she was standing in the way because she was -- had an anticorruption effort going on. so, the way these lines cross is just amazing and astonishing. and we're going to find out a lot more. >> it's a mess, but carrie, you say the testimony from the ambassador that he's talking about, the former ambassador, marie yovanovitch makes clear diplomacy, national security are being used for political purposes. >> well, that really was the central theme of at least the statement that was released publicly that she made today and we'll find more about what she said behind closed doors. that was the key point i took away from the written statement which was that she was sounding the alarm. her vantage point which is on the inside which is different than what we are observing on the outside, she was seeing the levers of government, foreign diplomacy that's being conducted by the state department or individuals that are representing themselves as doing interests in diplomacy, national security decisions, corruption issues. she mentioned corruption issues are national security issues because they pertain to how people are motivated to take action. all of these issues are being handled by people who are not acting in the united states interest and they're doing people who are doing work perhaps at the behest of the president, close to him, and they're doing it for their own political interests, perhaps for their own business interests. and so what she's really painting is a picture of a government that is not holding up so well. and i'm talking about our own government, our own institutions, our own state department that when we hear people saying the institutions are holding up and we'll get through this difficult time with this president who doesn't respect laws and norms and the ways that the government is supposed to work, that actually they're being impacted. and her removal for reasons that were unrelated to her performance and for potentially because she was getting in the way of this subversion of proper diplomatic process is just everyday of that. >> the collateral damage is increasingly extensive. one of the things she pointed out too in her opening statement was the idea that, look, the united states to other leaders across the globe looks like they're susceptible to innuendo which is not what anybody wants to hear. pompeo was saying today that his department will do everything it's lawfully required to do to honor house subpoenas. he also said this, i think the only ones thapg this zelenski was pressured are a handful of folks in the media and a bunch of folks on capitol hill -- the democratic party -- who are trying to take down this president. mark, are either of those things true? >> not from my facts we can ascertain. the one thing that's comes through so far, it was a deposition hearing. that can't be made public. but the characterization of the testimony you heard on the don lemon show and what we hear from republicans as well is that this is a 30-year civil servant, a servant of democracy. she was a classic diplomat. and nobody is really questioning her integrity or her character. so, it's really going to be hard for the president and his allies to suggest as they have been trying to with everybody else that this is a deep state partisan coupe attempt. this is somebody trying to do her job and do the right thing. i think it's going to be difficult for her character to be indicted. >> mark and carrie, stay with me. something tells me they'll try to find a way to try. >>> up next democrats are trying to keep the impeachment focus on one thing but is that a bad thing? i'll make my case next. i'm alex trebek here to tell you about the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85 and looking to buy life insurance on a fixed budget, remember the three p's. what are the three p's? 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is congress really afraid of the american electorate would be overwhelmed or are they streamlining to run out of time before the 2020 election? maybe it's a little bit of both. but the impeachment of a president requires a comprehensive inquiry. notice i didn't say a slow inquiry. i said a comprehensive inquiry, exhaustive not exhausting. or as congressman jim hines put it, we have an obligation to see just how deep this sewage flows. there may be enough information to substantiate a claim that the president abused his power by soliciting foreign interference. but that doesn't mean you put your blinders on to the rest. congress take a few pointers from the judicial branch. why just today alone the court issued rulings in five separate cases concerning the president each answering a separate question? but from releasing tax returns to paying for a border wall with emergency funds to making it harder for people to get a green card if they use public benefits, the trump white house lost today. in fact, all week the courts have rejected any argument that congress is powerless compared to the president or that congress's oversight function is somehow invalid because it's inconvenient for the president. kitchen sink's argument went down to judicial drain this week. focus is not synonymous with tunnel vision. new claims of wrong doing require a fresh look at the facts. and doing so doesn't undermine the impeachment inquiry. in fact, if the house does vote to impeach, they will still have to prove their case using the evidence they gathered during the inquiry to persuade frankly a mostly hostile senate. if they shorthand the inquiry, they will shortchange the american people. and it is that simple. back with me now are mark mckinnon and carrie cordero. mark, i want to come to you. what do you think? does congress need to change their plan to focus narrowly on ukraine in the impeachment inquiry? should they be doing more? >> i think they need to keep it simple. i worked for ann richards when she was governor of texas. she said dumb it down so mama can understand it. the problem is i understand the argument you're making, but i think impeachment is such a hot spotlight that any democrat on any possible relevant committee wants that spotlight. you've got to make sure and keep the focus narrow or else they're all going to find a reason to find a thread to get on television, to hold their own hearings. they're talking about going back doing stuff we were looking at last year. i think the smartest person on either party is nancy pelosi. she understands get this sucker done by christmas and move on. >> it's fascinating because your focus is on you think it's about people who are trying to steal the limelight as opposed to the ir request. that's an interesting point. carrie, i want to ask you, trump took a beating, five different rulings not going his way. is this what happens when the president tries to force through what he wants without thinking about the legal consequence or making good enough legal arguments here? >> well, the hallmark of the trump administration in the first three years is implementing policies without doing the hard legal analysis, the hard legal work, and the serious inner agency coordination to make sure the policy you issue has a sound legal basis, has been vetted and is likely to survive judicial challenge. so, basically it's a way of governing that is lazy and that is also purely politically motivated. so, when he has a political objective, he says well let's make a policy. he staffs the government with people who are willing to implement it. that's why over at dhs we have so many components and now the head of the agency is leaving and it's been in acting capacity for many, many months. so, he puts in positions of authority in the agencies people who are not going to push back on these policies that are not based in law and process. and so this is the result. and so i think just this week is a snapshot of the culmination of the way he's been trying to govern. and for example, the emergency case on the border. that has been litigated by organizations that is a consortium of people from progressive background and conservative lawyers all agreeing that the position the administration was taking on emergency authorities for the border was not based in any law. >> and carrie, yet it continued and persisted. and we'll probably see more of this. this was a lesson for the president of the united states today. mark mckinnon, carrie cordero, thank you. i'll have to have you back. >>> rudy giuliani was once america's most revered mayor. now a lot of experts think he could be facing criminal charges of his own. up next, we'll trace rudy's roller coaster career with a man who's known him for decades. >>> one thing is clear: the walls appear to be closing in on rudy giuliani. even the president has distanced himself in the wake of this week es events. giuliani is facing two big new problems. first his two associates were arrested hours after having lunch with giuliani at a trump hotel. second, new reports implicate giuliani in a scheme to pressure former secretary of state rex tillerson to help get a case against a prominent foreign client dropped. so, what happened? this is the rudy giuliani people remember, america's mayor, strength in the face of adversity. how did that guy become this guy? at the trump hotel with men about to be taken into custody with one-way ticket out of the country. joining me now is andrew kurtzman author of "rudy giuliani." you know him well and followed him for years. do you recognize this rudy giuliani? >> i recognize him, but i think this is a giuliani who has changed throughout the years and not for the better. not for the better. and i think you need a psychologist as much as a political reporter to kind of analyze what exactly has happened to him. i covered giuliani for close to a decade prior to 9/11. as you remember, he was kind of -- he became one of the most beloved men on the planet after 9/11. he wagered it all on his presidential race in 2008. and it was a disaster. it was a humiliating disaster. he walked away with i believe one delegate. and he kind of was out in the wilderness. donald trump was his ticket back to relevance. and, you know, he seems having been willing to squander uch many of his stature and his dignity in service of power and apparently money as well. >> but it's odd and counterinterviewty that somebody who as you say was craving that power, was beloved. you were with him on 9/11. we have a picture with you with him on the day he was there. there you are with him. to go from that and somebody who was commanding, somebody who was beloved in that way, doesn't it seem odd to you that you would then seek out to be a subordinate of someone with a larger than life persona and thoughts of being loved. >> it's a good question. he didn't have a lot of options. donald trump was, you know, one of the few people who needed rudy giuliani. donald trump didn't have a big kind of circle, political circle. giuliani was kind of personality. and there weren't a lot of people calling giuliani for his help. >> given the fact that rudy giuliani before he was mayor, he was running the sdny. how ironic is it for you now to think ant that office looking into his financial dealings with the ukraine? >> it's ironic and also very sad. his accomplishments at the southern district of new york are the stuff of legend. there could still be a powerful mafia in this city if not for rudy giuliani. he did extraordinary things as a prosecutor. he did extraordinary things as a mayor. this is a person who achieved greatness. and for him to have kind of taken this path down towards -- i don't know what you want to call it -- towards cynicism is a very, very sad thing. >> and you know, what made me even sadder given what you were talking about is that this fall out of -- the quest at this point with the president, he came out today, the president, and distancing himself a little bit from rudy giuliani. >> right. >> and we saw this rim nis sent of michael cohen. here's the president talking about rudy giuliani in a way that we haven't seen yet. >> right. >> [ inaudible question ] >> well, i don't know. i haven't spoken to rudy. i spoke to him yesterday briefly. he's a very good attorney, and he has been my attorney, yeah, sure. >> so, tell me. i mean, he's not even his attorney. he doesn't really know? what did you make of that? >> i don't think it's any surprise that trump is willing to kind of cut giuliani loose. giuliani from what reports say, his business dealings are under investigation. you know, i have no inside knowledge. is he facing indictment? i don't know. if trump is looking at this and wondering whether or not giuliani is kind of a toxic presence right now when trump is, you know, so vulnerable as it is, trump has never shown reluctance to cut people loose. i think if he does -- and it seems he might be on the way towards doing it -- that's going to be interesting because giuliani is not going to be like tillerson or mattis where he goes gently into the night. he'll go out in a blaze. it'll be king kong versus godzilla kind of thing. >> the relationship goes way back. there was giuliani famously dressed once in a roast back in 2000. so, what is it that draws these two together? >> i think they're very like minded gentleman. i think there's kind of a melo mania to both of them. i think they both feel they have cornered truth and morality. and there's kind of a streetwise borrow thing they learned from their youth in new york city. they, you know, get along. they're buds. >> thank you for being part of the show. it's interesting to think about what will happen next. we'll have to stay tuned. >> sure. >> just how many trump associates are now in prison, under investigation, or indictment? 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as many in donald trump's world become entangalled in the widening inquiry, the president takes great pangs to distance himself from those in the cross hairs of the investigation. he did it today with rudy giuliani, the latest in his circle to come under fire. joining me now julia epstein and juliet. there's a growing list of people now in trump's orbit who have fallen into legal trouble, the latest being investigated for lobbying laws and his personal lawyer rudy giuliani. you say trump has surrounded himself with violators and enables. explain that. >> right. so, there's the violators are the people who are actually breaking the laws. and that group is too big to even name at this stage. it's sort of shockingly big. you then have the next group of people which are the enablers, the people who are nodding and sort of allowing this to happen. think of the senate republicans, think of many people on fox news, and just sort of not being able to answer a simple question like is it wrong for a president to, you know, essentially ask another country to look for dirt on his political competitor. i actually add a third group and i think this is the group that's becoming interesting in these times and that's the apologists, the people who sort of say well i don't like all the stuff that trump is doing but i like the tax cuts or i like what he's doing with environmental regulations. and what they have to realize is that there's a through line between the tax cuts and what's happening to the kurds or the new judges and what's happening with -- at the border. in other words, trump is animated by a singular motivation which is himself and obviously his economic interests. and it's that third group that i think you're starting to see the shifting going on. there's no two trumps. there's no good trump and bad trump. this is trump. that's the group that's most interesting right now. >> julian, what we're finding out about is just the tip of the iceberg. we have a lot of information here. >> julia makes a good point. to summarize what she's saying, when you lie down with dogs, you get fleas. trump has surrounded himself with hacks and people who will tell him what he wants to hear but have a three stooges quality to them. theic whichens are coming home to roost. there are -- the first thing you do with had you're any administration -- before i was the chief counsel of the judiciary committee i ran the house oversight committee. the first thing you do when you're in a problem is you get all the bad facts out, then you pledge cooperation, then you try to tell your story. and that's -- it's a pretty simple template when you're in the middle of a scandal the way this administration is right now. what this administration is adopting the bob strategy. donald trump is standing on the line saying everything is under control, this is a witch hunt, as the tanks are getting ready to roll over him. what's relevant about the good pount that is juliet's making is you have so many loose ends here now. russia is brought back into this by virtue of the fact of the campaign finance situation that the southern district of new york is looking into. the diplomats, you have two different camps of diplomats that were involved in ukraine, one who want to tell the truth, one who want to cover up the truth. you have inside the administration utter chaos where there's lots of voices inside the administration. i know this from talking to people on the hill who want to come out and be on the right side of this issue. the administration doesn't have control of that. you've got a situation the southern district of new york now where the southern district of new york is looking at giuliani and who knows what else, another situation they can't contain. and you have congress. and all ind ka ugss are that the cracks in the wall where the senate republicans are starting to occur. so, you have all this activity going on, all this chaos and an administration that can't kind of get control of all these grifters that juliet is talking about. this just spells, you know, this just spells the worst situation -- >> i think the word you're looking for is chaos. i've got to give juliet the last word. let me tell you this, both of you, very sound points and compartmentalize very well. the american people have any given moment any of these people could be in any of the categories. thank you to both of you. i appreciate it. julian epstein, juliet cayenne. is the impeachment inquiry causing president trump to act erratically? we'll talk about that next. are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! >>> as house democrats expand the impeachment inquiry, the president is reaching out to his base, holding two campaign rallies just this week alone, including, by the way, one tonight where he's lashing out at those he perceives as his enemies. welcome to you both. alice, you know, it's been a bad day and frankly a bad week for the president. he's out there giving rallies which we know makes him feel better. but is that what he should be doing right now? >> it is because a, it makes him feel better. it rejuvenates him. but also it feeds the base. if you looked at that rally for even one second this evening and the same with the one in minnesota, those people are not paying attention to the impeachment inquiry. they are not paying attention to the supreme court cases that came down today. they are paying attention 100% to the energy and the enthusiasm they are getting fed from president trump. and this not only helps him, but it helps to get out the vote. it keeps them energized. and it is abundantly clear that it's a good way for him to understand that his base supports him. they support his policies. he was also able to talk about certainly immigration and the economy and things that he does have that are positive strengths in his presidency and keep the focus away from, as you say, a lot of the things that are not positive that are going on in washington. >> what's your reaction to that though because this impeachment inquiry causing the president to really behave even more erratically at these rallies to focus on certain things? you saw him criticize ilhan omar and others, and the peter strzok. the whole i love you infatuation. is this a good plan for him? >> i don't think he's acting more erratically. this is the same donald trump there's always been. he's always been erratic in my opinion. i think he's doing something well to alice's point. when you have impeachment politics which he's playing well and then you have the judicial proceeding, you have the legislative proceeding which is going on and the legal proceeding which is this impeachment inquiry which he's losing and getting dealt body blow after body blow after body blow. in terms of the impeachment politics, he's going out to rallies, beating up the individuals, calling out the deep state, calling out the fake news, doing what donald trump does best and giving red meat to his base. on the legislative side he's losing those battles night in and night out and i think the things are going to taek a toll on him. he's going to win 35% of the populous regardless, but those swing voters and the voters in the middle will turn away from donald trump unlike what they did in 2016. >> alice, there are people like acting kevin mcaleenan, he's out. this is another person in a long line of people who are out in the administration. and this is after a recent "washington post" article quoting him saying that he felt frustrated, isolated. secretary pompeo's senior adviser stepped down yesterday. we've been talking about trump trying to distance himself from giuliani, but maybe people want to do the reverse and get away from trump. are you seeing that now? >> look, i'm not surprised that mcaleenan stepped down and i'm not surprised he gave the reason spending for time with family and friends. but turmoil -- as much turmoil as we see that's going on in the white house and the palace intrigue, it is something we can talk about here and is fodder for a lot of news rooms across the country. but again, i bring it back to his base and the people out there at his rallies and many of them across middle america. they are not concerned with the palace intrigue. they're not concerned with the developing drama, this going on with the impeachment inquiry and the supreme court. and you said yourself, laura, just a few moments ago with the way the democrats are handling this impeachment, they're doing so at their own detriment and they need to keep it simple if they're going to be effective and not get too in the weeds on this. after all the two years with mull e it left a lot of people very frustrated. if this impeachment inquiry goes the same direction with raising the level of expectations without anything to show for it at the end there's going to be a lot of people, democrats included, that are going to be very frustrated with the democrats. >> i wonder how it ends in the long run. i'm sorry i could not get back to you. i wanted to hear your views on it. but thank you both and thank you for watching. our coverage continues. 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in history, tonight on cnn? >>> rudy giuliani is a hand grenade in a white house operation that resembles a drug deal. damning details from closed-door testimony on impeachment. >>> new trouble for allies in ar area. removing troops from a worsening situation. >>> when you're misinformed and you're not educated about something, just talking about the tweet itself, you never know the ramifications that can happen. >> lebron james addresses the controversy that followed the nba to china. now, he's facing blowback. welcome to our viewers in the united states and across the world. i'm dave briggs. >> it's 4:00 a.m. in new york. and breaking overnight, stunning, new details from closed-door testimony in the impeachment inquiry. trump's adviser fiona hill, raising concerns about rudy giuliani's role in u.s. policy towards ukraine. multiple sources say, she tried to report wrongdoing. hill testified that john bolton referred to rudy giuliani, as a, quote, hand grenade, who is going to blow everybody up. >> he told lawmakers bolten characterized a rogue operation. and mick mulvaney as b
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, two friends of rudy giuliani who have worked with rudy giuliani were described by their lawyer as members of donald trump's legal team. they have also been described as alleged criminals working for russian gangsters, and they are actually currently indicted. former justice department official matt miller will join us to connect those dots along with former federal prosecutor mimi rocah, next. at bayer, we create medicine that treats bleeding disorders like hemophilia. so victor can keep doing what's in his blood. at bayer, this is why we science. our mission is to provide complete, balanced nutrition... for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-seven vitamins and minerals. ensure, for strength and energy. >>> the trump justice department is closing the door to rudy giuliani. he is not welcome there anymore now that he is under investigation by the u.s. attorney in manhattan, an investigation that some members f the william barr justice department did not know about when they had a meeting with rudy giuliani recently. it was a k
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from syria and leave the kurds exposed. the federal investigation of rudy giuliani, the president's attorney now include as counter intelligence probe. >>> the impeachment inquiry is expanding. the former senior advisor to the secretary of state mike pompeo testifies that he quit over the ukraine scandal. >>> and tax documents belonging to the trump organization, that on two properties, the documents show they appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax officials. >>> we're going to get to all of that in just a moment but i want to focus now on the big picture here. let's start with that. that chaotic meeting between the president and democratic leaders. joining me is charlie dent, michael sheer. good evening. thank you so much. we got a lot of ground to cover. first off, michael, i want you to listen to how nancy pelosi and chuck schumer described the meeting with the president. >> still the part of the president was a meltdown. sad to say. >> he called her a third grade politician. this was not a dialogue. it was sort of a diatribe, a nasty diatribe not focused on
from syria and leave the kurds exposed. the federal investigation of rudy giuliani, the president's attorney now include as counter intelligence probe. >>> the impeachment inquiry is expanding. the former senior advisor to the secretary of state mike pompeo testifies that he quit over the ukraine scandal. >>> and tax documents belonging to the trump organization, that on two properties, the documents show they appear more profitable to lenders and less profitable to tax...
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rudy giuliani. and these people were the ones that were entrusted to carry out the mission of the president, and the people at the state department were basically cast aside, their opinion didn't really matter. their advice was not taken. their counsel was not taken. the president entrusted instead his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, to do his bidding. and it looks like perhaps gordon sondland as well. remember gordon sondland was a political appointee and he was not someone who worked his way up through the ranks as a career diplomat and so i'm looking forward to hearing his testimony as well. >> the matter of impeaching a president pertains to language in the constitution, treason, high crimes, and misdemeanors, that's different from the statutes of violation of criminal code. given the testimony, do you think crimes were committed? that only applies to the president. do you think the law was trans gresed here? >> based on what i've seen and heard i think it's very possible. it's quite possible. in fact i would say at this point it's probable that laws were broken. >> speaking o
rudy giuliani. and these people were the ones that were entrusted to carry out the mission of the president, and the people at the state department were basically cast aside, their opinion didn't really matter. their advice was not taken. their counsel was not taken. the president entrusted instead his personal lawyer, rudy giuliani, to do his bidding. and it looks like perhaps gordon sondland as well. remember gordon sondland was a political appointee and he was not someone who worked his way...
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spotlight. there's also the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani now telling nbc news he has not decided whether to comply with the subpoena for documents. and he's staying noncommittal about whether he'll testify if asked. >> i'm weighing the alternatives. i'll get all my evidence together. >> our team of reporters and analysts are here with another morning of fast-moving developments and i want to start with nbc news andrea mitchell and hans nichols. andrea, we are fortunate to have you here because the secretary of state is live currently overseas. he's in italy. we don't know if he's going to speak to the cameras. we don't know if he's going to respond to the questions. but we do know that he had an opportunity last week to talk about the discussions between the president and the leader of ukraine. he gave what seemed to be a pretty carefully phrased response as we look live at the photo opportunity right now. let me play for you what pompeo said just about nine days ago. >> what do you know about those conversations? >> so you just gave me a report about a whistle-blower com
spotlight. there's also the president's personal attorney rudy giuliani now telling nbc news he has not decided whether to comply with the subpoena for documents. and he's staying noncommittal about whether he'll testify if asked. >> i'm weighing the alternatives. i'll get all my evidence together. >> our team of reporters and analysts are here with another morning of fast-moving developments and i want to start with nbc news andrea mitchell and hans nichols. andrea, we are...
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links to rudy giuliani in federal custody indicted of charges of funneling money into a u.s. election. names igor fruman and lev parnas. they were arrested at a washington airport with what prosecutors say were one-way tickets out of the country. one of the men described as giuliani's fixer and someone who helped introduce him to various officials in his bid to dig up dirt on joe biden. and listen to this. hours before the two arrests these two men had lunch with rudy giuliani in washington at the trump hotel. that is according to the "wall street journal." moments ago the u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york detailed charges against these two men and their intended target, former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch. >> as alleged in the indictment the defendants broke a law to gain political influence why avoiding disclosure of who was actually making the donations and where the money was coming from. they saw political influence not only to advance their own financial interests but to advance the political interests of at least one foreign official,
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sideline his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, this according to three people familiar with that conversation. the latest development comes as "the new york times" reports rudy giuliani's under federal investigation to determine whether he violated lobbying laws. giuliani tells nbc that he's unaware of any probe. two of giuliani's clients this week were arrested and charged with conspiring to violate campaign finance laws. meanwhile, as the democrats are ratcheting up the inquiry, the white house tries to find its footing on the issue. so we're going right to the white house right now. nbc's hans nichols is there for us. so, this administration, hans, is it fashioning some sort of a defense? >> reporter: well, yes and no. i mean, it's clearly driven by the president. we saw this week that they finally put out a letter from the white house council's office that questioned the entire legitimacy of the impeachment inquery. what you see from the president, him sort of test run ideas and test run rhetoric, and then you hear him in the rallies say it more explicitly. at the end of the
sideline his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, this according to three people familiar with that conversation. the latest development comes as "the new york times" reports rudy giuliani's under federal investigation to determine whether he violated lobbying laws. giuliani tells nbc that he's unaware of any probe. two of giuliani's clients this week were arrested and charged with conspiring to violate campaign finance laws. meanwhile, as the democrats are ratcheting up the inquiry,...
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of spreading lies about the former vice president we have your because if rudy giuliani should be banned from the t.v. . giuliani should be able to speak and biden should be able to refute any any charges they try to shut out the other side everybody has the right to be his views . on this lee sees a spike in migrant arrivals after rome overturns former interior minister. decision to close the rescue boats. there you are very good evening to you this is of course. another huge anti beijing protest in hong kong has left at least 66 people injured after protesters clashed with police more than 190 people have been arrested. tear gas water cannon and rubber bullets to break up the crowds. i'm. not. tens of thousands are taking part in the rally called national grief protesters bill barricades causing traffic chaos they've also smashed the pension system the metro system and the chanting proud to be british well the latest. this has been the worst violence the city has seen in weeks if not months and the preparations were well advanced the authorities even shut down the entire metro s
of spreading lies about the former vice president we have your because if rudy giuliani should be banned from the t.v. . giuliani should be able to speak and biden should be able to refute any any charges they try to shut out the other side everybody has the right to be his views . on this lee sees a spike in migrant arrivals after rome overturns former interior minister. decision to close the rescue boats. there you are very good evening to you this is of course. another huge anti beijing...
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