obama gets a glimpse and agents. he's ahead of the curve, gathers around him in the fall of 2008 with a team led by democrats and republicans, bill donovan, robert rice, one of your favorites here, you know, they are all together. robert wolf, the ubs wall street, and they are together because they are afraid. people are feeling the shudders on the land scape, feeling it shake, and obama right from the start are saying the things that no one else is saying. we have to reform the financial exam, reform the system of credit. we need to make it work for the american economy and american people rather than against it, kill off the volatility we feel now as we run up and down the fear just in the last few weeks. he got it, and volcker is the guy. volcker's in the book, and some people say he's a hero. i'm not big on heros orville lains, but the reporting is the reporting, and volcker speaks with force in the book. we had many, many lunches, talked across almost two years, and volcker is the kind of avatar, the champion of

obama didn't listen. you know, remember the whole thing between hillary and obama, the judgment versus experience? hillary said experience than obama said judgment. it was a nice retort. he seemed to be a man who weighs confused at the clarity of judgment. i think obama would now say experience is important as well. but he makes judgments to bring in this team and significantly the die is cast. there are movie moments here. you know, i was at the last rally, his last speech of the campaign. cordelia come my wife and i both went manassas, virginia, a 21 month run, and heroic were really out of the midst, i know where to capture the imagination of the nation and fear. in that last rally of manassas, virginia you could not be -- you could not avoid being moved. i mean, my eyes welled up. you know, tenet thought, 10:30 at night a chilly night, his last speech before he flies to chicago to vote and play basketball and see how the cards fall. you know, here we are just four miles away from the battlefields. we

it obama jr. was raised by his father, if he had that penalty -- personality at the table every day and guiding him or not, i don't think he would be the president. the president defined himself deliberately. you can feel him choosing a course, figuring out who he is, and i think if he had that self-absorbed man, he wouldn't be the president, so, yes, but i think every situation is different. hard to generalize. >> question about you mentioned obama's grandparents, his maternal grandparents who were very prominent and important in his lives, and they had a very respectful relationship with obama senior. talk a little about how they responded to him. >> to obama senior? >> yeah. >> yeah. i think -- i think they tried very hard in their culture. this was sort of shocking to them. 23 you read the president's book, i think they were taken aback. she was dating a black man, but, you know, they loved her so much and knew she was happy with this, and so they embraced it. i think they were fascinated with

today the coalition led by barack obama helped kill the barack obama helped kill the libyan dictator. it's a major foreign policy victory for the united states and republicans just can't stand it. this is the ed show. let's get to work. >> working in libya with friends and allies, we've demonstrated what collective action can achieve in the 21st century. >> a brutal dictator is dead and republicans can't let president obama take credit. >> let's give credit where credit is due. the french and the british that led on this fight. >> tonight former assistant defense secretary lawrence korbe on the right wing reaction. and new jersey senator bob men endoze what gadhafi's death means for the families of the lockerbie victims. and arrested on sunday. tonight he joins me exclusively. and a right wing operative tries to ambush vice president joe biden and it doesn't go so well for the guy. >> let's get it straight, guys. don't screw around with me. >> we'll play you the rest of the tape. good evening, folks. good you have to with us tonight. eight months after the early stages of a revolution

this is all about getting president obama. into the minds of the american people that he is incompetent, doesn't have a plan, can't lead, and can't make those executive decisions. how many more terrorists does president obama have to take down? how many more dictators does he have to debows the help of nato before the republicans will give him any credit at all without any political congratulations involved? this is another reason why those protesters are out in the streets in this country. it is the divide. bay of pigs. did you hear any republicans really working over president kennedy way back when or were we all on the same page then? and there's one more thing i want to point out tonight. the last crowd that used to be in charge of the fort, they used to take us into wars, cost us trillions of dollars and a bunch of lives. vice president joe biden reminded us of how this mission was done today. >> the people of libya have gotten rid of a dictator of 40 years who i personally knew. this is one tough not so nice guy. and gue

chris: you're the expert on barack obama. i have written about kennedy here and try to find the ways of the inspiration that seemed to move the country. let's get this country moving again. i mean obama could say that tomorrow morning and it would engage people. >> first of all, congratulations on the book. the striking thing at the very beginning, you quote kennedy saying that the reason read biography is to figure out what is this guy like. your book does an incredible job of showing what jack kennedy is like. on the question of obama, remains like in the subtitle of the book, he remains an elusive hero or elusive villain if you don't like him. there is also the other side that kennedy didn't have to deal with, people trying to define you and villify you. because he is not projecting a sense of himself that people can attach themselves to, he has allowed his enemies to define him in a way that is crippling over the first 2 1/2, three years. chris: one thing that people liked about the kennedy brothers, they were tough. as i

under obama care, that is who enforces obama care. they're hiring 16,000 new irs agents, as if we did not have enough, to enforce obama care. so if you need any more reasons to get rid of it? remember. one chance. if there is one thing you remember about today when you leave, take this with you. there is one chance to get rid of president obama care, and it is this election. you can add executive order the way. you cannot waivered away. -- you cannot executive order it away. you cannot waiver it away. it has to go through the congress and i have the will to make that happen. i will not leave office until it is done, and i will pay attention to that until it is done. are we done? >> we are. >> ladies and gentlemen, michele bachmann, the next president. whether you going to do to find out more about michele bachmann? michelebachman.com. many of the people know this next gentleman. he is the son of the former governor of new hampshire. we call in the ax man, and you are going to see why in a minute. i would like to introduce you to tom t

obama for the perceived slur. he argues mr. obama would never use with lateen, jewish or gay americans. >> would he ever say to our hispanic brothers and sisters on immigration in their concerns, stop gruesome ling? stop crying, stop complaining? did he say to gays and lesbians, top gruesome ling, stop crying no how does he get away with saying this to black folk when he would never form his lips to say that to any other constituency? >> clarence, how do you want to address this? >> well, i think first of all, for those who were in the room at the black caucus, there was a lot of love in the room. while you're going have people saying he shouldn't have said that, blah, blah, blah, still, he had the crowd with him. number two, everybody knows smiley and cornell west have been -- criticism of barack obama since before his re- elections for not being close enough to the liberal progressive agenda they follow. i've known cornell 15, 20 years. i respect all of them. but they have disagreements. >> what do you think of the new york t

with obama you get bigl. government and his rich friends get richer and richer.bi if you get rich on your own like the rich people you wereich mentioning, fine, more power toh you. >> all right, ann. theangthanks as always.aled if obama care is not repealed,ha should we be afraid if the medical winds up in the hands of the government. >>> the feud between perry and romney. that should be interesting. moments away. i want to focus on innovation. but my data is doubling. my servers are maxed out. i need to think about something else when i run. [ male announcer ] with efficient i.t. solutions from dell, doug can shift up to 50% of his company's technology spend from operating costs to innovation. so his company runs better, and so does doug. dell. the power to do more. it's true. u never forget your first subaru. >> bill: as i said years ago, the fact that the federal government willt o be assemblig the medical hifts histories of americans to expedite obama car. is troubling. wil your health records will be tra

is raining down on africa of this as president obama sends one hundred u.s. advisors and troops into uganda to assist in a rebel takedown but why now and is the u.s. doing more harm than good when it comes to quote helping other countries. it's monday october seventeenth seven pm in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're walking artsy well today marks the one month anniversary of the occupy wall street protests the movement have gone global now with hundreds of thousands of people occupying times square and cities around the world from london to rome to oneness areas to name a few back of the u.s. artsy has been on the ground our way in new york since day one and we're not slowing down today is today arts he's marine corps and i are caught up with celebrity actor william baldwin who flew from l.a. it's the big apple to show his support take a listen. it's not about the people anymore even elected officials and government institutions that run this country anymore it's it's big corporations and and wall street that to you and that's why a lot of people are he

and what should president obama's approach be? >> well, i think president obama needs to get the fiscal discipline back for this country. i think that's what president obama was talking about. first we need to get the economy going and jobs going. president clinton last night over at the presidential center spoke about this and said the only way to get back to a path to balance the budget and restore the fiscal balance in our kournt industry to get jobs going now and have cuts and quite frankly tax increases for the wealthiest americans. most people don't announce for president saying that they are going to raise taxes even on the wealthiest americans but president clinton did that in 1991 in that speech and said the wealthiest, amongst us, to be share, have to pay their fair share and did that, of course, in the 1993 economic plan and that led to both a balanced budget and strong economy, job growth, and wage growth. >> yeah, it's been echoed right now. i want to ask you about you were chief of staff. do you perceive mismanagemen

radical muslims. >> bob: do you get in a corner and start saying, "obama, bamm, obama." give at it break! it's stupid. >> greg: what you said is genius. only a progressive who won a nobel peace prize could do what he is doing and get away with it. right? >> bob: obama had another victory. a judge ruled that members of congress who had sued on the war powers act, which has been a nebulous bill that has been out there. it's a law but it's never been clear. but they sued them for going to libya and said they should have asked for permission under the war powers act to do that. the judge struck it down. what do you think? gest it's not surprising they -- >> andrea: it's not surprising they struck it down. you have folks on the right and the left. bipartisan effort to go after them for some reason, whether they didn't go to congress or they did about it. did it unilaterallily. we have to have a discussion about the policy to the middle east. it's hard to figure out. he supports bush in some things and he doesn't have a clear doctrine. he called for assad to step down. he took

radical muslims. >> bob: do you get in a corner and start saying, "obama, bamm, obama." give at it break! it's stupid. >> greg: what you said is genius. only a progressive who won a nobel peace prize could do what he is doing and get away with it. right? >> bob: obama had another victory. a judge ruled that members of congress who had sued on the war powers act, which has been a nebulous bill that has been out there. it's a law but it's never been clear. but they sued them for going to libya and said they should have asked for permission under the war powers act to do that. the judge struck it down. what do you think? gest it's not surprising they -- >> andrea: it's not surprising they struck it down. you have folks on the right and the left. bipartisan effort to go after them for some reason, whether they didn't go to congress or they did about it. did it unilaterallily. we have to have a discussion about the policy to the middle east. it's hard to figure out. he supports bush in some things and he doesn't have a clear doctrine. he called for assad to step down. he took

>> as he said, he is the anti- obama, he embodies everything that obama isn't. he is a big guy, jersey guy. hangs out at the pizza shop. he embodies -- chris: north italians versus south italians? [laughter] >> one of the problems with romney that he doesn't have an interesting bio. and there is no way into this -- chris: seems morrow boatic. no one would accuse christie of being a robot. >> you couldn't make one like that [laughter] >> i watched chris christie this summer ignite a crowd. one of the most remarkable performances i have seen. trying to put together the bipartisan deal on the new jersey budget, which is as messed up as the federal budget. and people walked out of that session. he was funny, he was open. unmade bed, big, heavy guy and guy were shaking his heads. if he passed the hat, he could have raised 50 million bucks. he is unscripted and the sense that maybe he could maybe fix these problems given the mess. chris: how can republicans, even if he doesn't run and perry fades, how can they say, we'll settle for romney? >> that's going to be hard.

not attack obama personally. probably be more respectful to him. >> sympathetic disappointment. >> other point, on romney, as the white house steps up to the tax on romney, that will help romney in one sense. all right, they are afraid of him and that may create some magnetism, little bit of magn magnetism romney has lost or not been able to develop. >> when we come back, we'll pick this up. >>> we ask which oscar-winning actor spent his early years managing the asheville community theater with his wife? the answer, charleston heston. they moved to asheville after world war ii where they earned $100 a week managing the asheville play house. we'll be right back. coffee doesn't have vitamins... unless you want it to. new splenda® essentials™ no calorie sweetener with b vitamins, the first and only one to help support a healthy metabolism. three smart new ways to sweeten. same great taste. new splenda® essentials™. >>> let's bring back our panel. major garrett susan paige and congressman davis. i want to go to

gambled on obama. there you go. the obama administration -- and later block it is constitutional it to use predator drone missiles to kill iranian leaders. we'll be right back. >> bill: impact segment tonight. president obama's reelection campaign being run by david axel rod out of chicago. yesterday he had a news conference with reporters. he used some of that time to hammer mitt romney. >> across the political spectrum people have the same question. if you are willing to change positions on fundamental issues of principle how can we know what you would do as president. how can we trust who you would be and that is the question they have in his own party. >> bill: , juan, from the statement by mr. axelrod, a serious man and a guy in charge of the reelection campaign, you would think that they are seeing governor romney as a threat. >> you are exactly right. i mean in political circles here in washington t is seen as inevitable right now. the reasons by the way that you outlined in the talking points memo. in the "w

obama care, late friday the obama administration announced it is abee abandoning scrapping class, class which was going be a program to offer long-term insurance to offer insurance for long-term care because they said the numbers just don't add up, it is unworkable financially. how significant is that? >> i think it is symbolically significant because it is one more piece of the healthcare plan that will not be there. i'm not sure -- this was an idea supported by senator kennedy. i think if he was still alive there probably would have been a way to keep this in and, of course, everything would have changed. overall itless not affecting the broader national healthcare plan but symbolically probably more important because it is just one more piece of hard evidence that this perhaps was not such a good idea overall. it leaves most of the law in place obviously. >> chris: here is the one aspect that i think was interesting, bill. class was supposed to cut the deficit by $86 billion over the next ten years and talk about a bookkeeping trick. the way they did it was that the premiums were goi

. >> and your plan was the basis for obama care and your consultants helped obama craft obama care and to say you will repeal it, you have no track record on that that we can trust that you will do it. >> romney tried to go back at santorum and it got ugly. >> this is crafted for massachusetts and it would be wrong to adopt it as a nation. >> that is not what you said. >> you are shaking your head, and that is -- >> it is in your book that -- >> we took it out of your book. >> his turn or mine? okay. >> you are allowed -- >> well, governor -- >> you let me speak. rick y rick, you had your chance and let me speak. >> you are out of time. you are out of time. >> well, he ate into your time. sorry, mitt. >> sorry. i haven't had a chance to respond yet, because you were interrupting me the entire time i was trying to speak. >> and newt gingrich wanted a piece of the action, but mitt romney shut him down. >> well, newt, we got the idea of the individual mandate from you, and we got it from the heritage foundation and you. >> what you said is not true. you did not get that from me, but from

where's the obama party? jack kennedy had something called the kennedy party. >> let's talk about that. i mean, you know, that element that howard threw on the table and you just knocked out of the park. it is the element of, he ought to have these guys down the white house, he ought to play cards with them, have a drink with them. >> if you don't like them, they're not going to like you. >> well, that's the question. is he as -- is barack obama as good at politics at we initially thought? because he certainly, after this point in time, is certainly not john f. kennedy, who schmoozed these guys. these guys, in your book, they liked jack kennedy. you get the sense that a lot of democratic reps and senators, they admire the president, as we all admire the president, as we all ought to, but they don't really like him. >> you know what happened to jack kennedy, he got beaten for the vice presidential nomination in '56 and talked to the people and said, now i'm going to be a total politician. not just some popular

for clinton for obama. one another is the targeting drone killing of anwar locky an american born cleric u.s. drone strikes during obama's first two years in office have exceeded the total carried out during bush's tenure president obama described the walking as the leader of external operations for all qaeda in the arabian peninsula human rights groups which voiced international opposition against bush counterterrorism policies have quickly condemned the a lockie killing journalist jeremy scahill says obama's policies have drifted far from his political roots a president mccain doing the exact same thing that a president obama is doing would have been denounced by a lot of liberals and so were a lot of those dangerous moments in u.s. history and we saw it a bit with clinton in the ninety's where a democrat who campaigned on a pledge to change but you know the country of the world has actually pushed a right wing agenda further forward than a republican republican could have if they remained in power or the

that tells you they think obama's in trouble. and i think obama is going to jujitsu this and say, okay, i'm the underdog. >> that makes -- that's all the difference there. >> that's what makes politics interesting. thank you, guys. the world without chris christie. what a huge displacement. it's not there anymore. anyway, thank you, dana milbank, great guy. thank you, jonathan martin. up next, speaking of mitt romney, wait until you hear why he said he didn't respond to that debate crowd. remember the crowd that booed the gay soldier. not a profile in courage for mitt romney, he won't even say now he has a problem with that booing, even now. you're watching "hardball" on msnbc. [ fema le announcer ] new crest complete deep clean. you feel it working, so you know it's working. and that means you're ready for whatever the day brings. unlike ordinary toothpaste, you feel a deeper clean. you're also protected. with new crest complete, you know you're covered. >>> back to "hardball." now for the sideshow. first up, the supreme court j

cuÁl es el punto dÉbil del presidente obama? >> cÓmo viajÁs ganar el voto hispano? gracias por estar con nosotros. estamos de acuerdo que sin el voto hispano, entre 35 y 40 por ciento. >> nuestro voto eso sumamente importante, es importante ganar el 35% para ganar las elecciones. >> cÓmo va mÁs a los republicanos para ganar el voto hispano cuando fueron los republicanos los que aprobaron la ley anti migrante, todos los republicanos estÁn en contra del dream act. >> el primero con todo respeto no creo que estas leyes serÁn antiinmigrantes, son contra personas indocumentadas. estoy de acuerdo que hay una cuestiÓn de imagen, no me gusta el tipo de bromas a mÍ tampoco, los abiertos maestros tienen que hablar de las contribuciones de los inmigrantes a nuestro paÍs, al fin y al cabo todos somos inmigrantes. yo creo que por otro lado gran parte de nuestra comunidad tambiÉn tiene problemas con la cuestiÓn de la seguridad fronteriza, tambiÉn tiene problemas con una migraciÓn no controlada, queremos inmigraciÓn terreno por canales legales. nuestro cardiaco tiene q

that would mean obama's take would be somewhere in the $25 to $30 million. and as it is right now, perry, who is going to be the fund-raising king of the third quarter for the republicans, has announced he raised $17 million, and romney is expected to come in at around $13 million. so the president will remain way ahead of the other side. >> let me ask you, then, getting back to the republicans and looking ahead to the general election, is this a stage where the republicans actually now they have their field set, do they look at them and think about who is most likely to beat obama or are they still thinking about these candidates like, more, what kind of republican party do we want to be? >> i think right now there's more of that and that's why there's been this volatility, particularly when you look at the internals of the polls of the tea party supporters. they've had a different candidate for the last three months and they're moving around so there's a little bit of head/heart tension going on within the republican electorate. as you get closer to the io

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radical muslims. >> bob: do you get in a corner and start saying, "obama, bamm, obama." give at it break! it's stupid. >> greg: what you said is genius. only a progressive who won a nobel peace prize could do what he is doing and get away with it. right? >> bob: obama had another victory. a judge ruled that members of congress who had sued on the war powers act, which has been a nebulous bill that has been out there. it's a law but it's never been clear. but they sued them for going to libya and said they should have asked for permission under the war powers act to do that. the judge struck it down. what do you think? gest it's not surprising they -- >> andrea: it's not surprising they struck it down. you have folks on the right and the left. bipartisan effort to go after them for some reason, whether they didn't go to congress or they did about it. did it unilaterallily. we have to have a discussion about the policy to the middle east. it's hard to figure out. he supports bush in some things and he doesn't have a clear doctrine. he called for assad to step down. he took

coming up, president obama just doesn't get it. he is now comparing the occupy wall street protests, a couple of blocks away to the tea party. good thing he will out of office soon enough. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ @=h    >>> i'm bret baier in washington. we have a heavy dose of politics in this evening's "special report." carl cameron still out in las vegas where the presidential republican hopefuls went at each other in another debate. they have done it five times tis in the last six weeks and they are clearly getting on each other's nerves. we will welcome one candidate to the studio. rick santorum will be in the center seat answering questions from panelists and then from now during our online show. president obama wrapped up the bus tour and continued his assault on republican opponents of the jobs bill/stimulus package. comments by vice president biden that had a lot of people shaking their heads today. the water cooler item of the day, dozens of wild animals on the loose in ohio. we will tell you how it

adolfo franco, Él nos dirÁ si cualquiera de los candidatos republicanos pudiera ganarle al presidente obama en las prÓximas elecciones y cómo harÁn los republicanos para ganar el voto hispano. >> estÁ adela navarro bello quien se ha jugado la vida para reportar sobre narcos y violencia, la entrevistas sobre el Último reconocimiento internacional. >> y nos acompaÑan suÁrez corresponsal del diario el mundo nueva york y el columnista guillermo martÍnez. el cantante pepe aguilar habla como nunca antes el de independizarse de las compaÑÍas disqueras y de la violencia en mÉxico, de un secuestro y deporte decidiÓ venir a vivir a estados unidos. ♪ >> vamos al punto con jorge ramos. ♪ >> vamos al punto, que es lo que pasa cuando el congresista que mÁs ha defendido a los inmigrantes indocumentados va al estado de alabama donde mÁs los persiguen. >> yo le digo a los de alabama... >> gracias por estar con nosotros, quÉ vio en alabama? >> usted lo dijo anteriormente, donde mÁs discriminan. yo no me habÍa dado cuenta, habÍa leído pero se pierde algo entre el papel y las palabras es

obama can beat obama. >> let me tell you the problem with obama. if you bought a car this the year, a ford or a chevy, whatever you bought, and it was lousy, turned out to be a clinker, a clunker, are you going to buy one next year? >> no. >> okay, that's the problem. thank you, jennifer donohue and thank you, mark mckinnon. he's got to win the argument. my heart next year, my model next year is going to be so good, let me show it to you, and convince us what he's saying about the next four years is so compelling, so winning, saying, okay, we know we got a bad model this year, but we'll get a good one next year. he's got to make the case to win this campaign. it's up to him to do it. what a challenge. >>> up next, steve jobs proved you don't need a fancy degree from a fancy university to make it in this country. you need a good idea and a lot of hard work. do we still have that garage out there where some people working in it that can make something magical happen? this is "hardball," only on msnbc. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. execut

story today the united states will withdraw all troops from iraq by the end of this year president obama says all troops other than about one hundred sixty active duty soldiers attached to the u.s. embassy will be out of iraq before christmas the last american soldier will call cross the border out of iraq with their gold itself proud of their success and knowing that the american people stand united. in our support for our troops that is how are americans military efforts in iraq will end. all right the decision largely a result of iraqi leaders refusal to give us troops immunity from prosecution in iraqi courts and the americans have refused to stay without it there had been talk that of the forty thousand or so troops in iraq right now and not three or four thousand would stay to help with training but iraqi prime minister nuri al maliki told president obama there just weren't enough votes by the iraqi parliament to allow such a thing getting out of iraq certainly a promise made by candidate barack obama one million people thank propelled him to pass hillary rodham clinton back in the

obama. i call this obama's fuzzy math. the same math he used when he said if you give up $850 billion, in stimulus, unemployment won't go up. guess what? we didn't save jobs or create the jobs. or try to save and create jobs. fuzzy math. you have can't put your finger on it. bottom line -- >> kimberly: we have a chart here says actually, this is organization that keeps track of this. promises kept, 151. compromise, 46. promises broken, 52. we all break a promise here or there. stalled? what does stalled mean? >> bob: republicans stopped him. >> kimberly: boehner and company. 68. in the works, 189. not yet rated, two. >> bob: i'll tell you, what is right. he is about -- not yet completed in the process of being done. most of those will get done. stalled are republicans stopping them. >> eric: almost? >> bob: 10% of the promises were not kept. by the time it's over is 60%. not bad for somebody who is the president of the united states. >> greg: successes came from not keeping promises. the best thing he has done were broken

we need to repeat obama care and one thing that president obama can't pivot on. he can blame the republican house and blame people for other things. he and his party passed obama care and public doesn't like it. they need to highlight how damaging it is to the health care system and federal budget a economy. and one thing that president obama said it is his greatest achievement and stuck with it. what about romney? >> he more than others. >> he said it but how persuasive is it. >> whatever he did in massachusetts. i wish he would defend it less forcibly. but republican and democrat think that mitt romney will repeal obama care. i think they would be more comfortable with romney. that would be more aggressive on obama care and on that reform. >> thank you, panel. see you next week. don't forget to check panel plus why where our group picks up. and time now for comments you posted about my intervieww with rick san torum many of you were unhappy when people foal about gays in the militaries now and how people wrote in the 1940s. >> it was poor journalism to compare

first of all, president obama's not like that. secondly, even if jamie dimon and a lot of the others don't support him, i don't think the president, especially who's trying to win states like north carolina and virginia -- >> i agree with you. >> is going to want to be that old-timey, sort of northeastern franklin roosevelt, bash wall street kind of guy. i don't think that's who he is. >> i'm glad you said that, howard. i was thinking that. if he's going for people who make over six figures, the people down in research triangle and the people out in colorado, he better not bash money. >> exactly. >> but here's where i think he has an advantage -- >> but there is a difference, chris, between bashing money and people who work hard for it and bashing what's gone on on wall street over the past few years and how that's tied into our economic problems. >> here's an example. i was going to say this. he doesn't have to do the bashing, because i think romney does his own self-bashing. take a look at this picture. here's mitt romney braggi

is viewed in that region, as you're traveling around, since the cleavage between bush and obama and obama made this speech in cairo and everybody looked at the election of obama as signaling the american people giving a negative referendum to the bush regime. has that change the the way -- >> it had. i performed in cairo the day after president obama was elected. i heard the result of the election in lufthansa by the stewardess in german. >> terrible accent. >> they cheered overwhelming. about 2,000 people at the hoe in cairo. the excitement for ambassadobam. he had such great promise. he came in. everyone expected the best. everyone viewed him as fulfilling whatever he wanted. he was set up to fail. you feel, he's not as popular today as he was. >> if can you stick with us, that would be great. we'll be right back. ♪ [ multiple sounds making melodic tune ] ♪ [ male announcer ] at northrop grumman, every innovation, every solution, comes together for a single purpose -- to make the world a safer place. that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. o0 c1 insurance companies you're

obama will be far better off. the president's campaign chief, david axelrod, gave us a preview yesterday. >> i don't think any american is impressed when they see governor romney and all the republican candidates say the first thing they would do is roll back wall street reforms and go back to where we were before the crisis and let wall street write its own rules. i think that will be an issue. >> interesting, right? the democrats know they can't defend president obama's economic record. so they'll deflect it into another arena and the need i can't will buy it. talking.is not buying it. capitalism gives the most amount of people the most opportunity to succeed on their own. europe's collapsing economically because of rampant social justice spending, entitlements. the soviet union collapsed. cuba and venezuela are disasters. socialism never works. but world wide there are millions of people who want stuff without working for it. they are capable of using force to try to get that stuff. not a nice picture. that's a

"president obama needs to understand addition. "president obama needs to understand that his my way or the highway approach simply isn't going to work in the house or the democratic senate, especially in light of his abyssmal record on jobs." is eric cantor playing the bad top what we will see as john boehner's good cop? >> no, they're on the same page as on this program. they're going to oppose it, but pick out pieces of it eventually and pass them. the big story, john, is you have even senate democrats opposing this jobs bill, when it comes up early next week in the senate. democrats will be hard-pressed to get even 50 votes for closure on this thing. what is astonishing is that president obama is to the left of where he was on election day 2010, which i thought no one would have expected. you have democrats on the verge of embracing this occupy wall street movement. on the misbegotten theateree ic day party. it was mainstream compared to these folks. read that are declaration of occupation of new york, where they say corporatio

nose and bring the fire to obama. the fact is david axelrod is exactly right. >> that attack is old and busted. >> bill: i got to run. david axelrod talking about flip flopping. hello, i think you have a guy who has done a little bit of that. >> but he is not running for office. it is mitt romney not david axelrod. >> bill: all of these guys flip flop. president clinton says there should be no tax increase on the wealthy. wow. wheeler that. and then the wall street protesters behind the scenes. some of what they are doing is illegal. shocking. those reports, after these messages. [ male announcer ] what if that hemorrhoid pain is non-stop to seattle? just carry new preparation h totables. discreet, little tubes packed with big relief. from the brand doctors recommend most by name. new preparation h totables. the anywhere preparation h. new preparation h totables. ♪ more and more folks are trying out snapshot from progressive. a totally different way to save on car insurance. the better you drive, the more you can sa

your plan was the basis for obama care. your consultants helped obama craft obama care. to say you're going to repeal it, you have no track record on that that we can trust you that you're going to do that. >> governor romney, 30 seconds. >> you don't. >> this is either the eighth or ninth debate. each chance i've had to talk about obama care, i've made it very clear and also in my book. at the time i crafted the plan in the last campaign, i was asked is this something you would have the whole nation do, and i said no. this is something that was crafted for massachusetts. it would be wrong to adopt this for a nation. >> that's not what you -- that's in your book -- >> guys. >> you took it out of your book. let's be honest. >> i tell you what? why don't you let me speak. rick, you had your chance. why don't you let me speak? >> you're out of time. you're out of time. you're out of time. >> he ate into your time. rick, sorry. >> i haven't had a chance to respond yet because you were interrupting the entire i was trying to speak. let me make it clear. >> i'll give you anoth

problem is president obama. they want to make this is a choice election. they want to reprise the 2004 election. they want to make mitt romney into the john kerry of 2004. george w. bush in 2004 had a huge advantage as strong and decisive leader. when we made an argument against john kerry, that he was a flip flopper, we had a huge advantage. right now, barack obama has dropped dramatically as a leader. obama has risen on internags til but if it turns domestic -- >> he lost a lot of democrats when he came across as being too bipartisan in his approach. i believe at the end of the day, those democrats will come back and independents and more others -- >> his biggest problem isn't democrats it's independents. >> absolutely. when you talk about his leadership, not only in foreign policy, even on the economy, democrats give, the country give him 15% point advantage over the republicans on the economy. president obama, i think, overall, will win. i don't know if it will be romney, perry or cain. but he'll win the ele

it's barack obama compared to what. and if mitt romney does become the nominee, phil rucker in "the new york times" is saying his problem is he's not connecting, still not connecting. he has lay-up shots and doesn't hit, you know, can't take advantage of them. he is, you know, boardroom cool versus living room warm. according to "the new york times." and that's a pretty good take on him. and i think that the problem that romney still has, with all of this training in the debates is that he still doesn't get the detailed -- >> can i raise the big question? jack, let me start with you, which is, at this point, does the president have to level with the american people and say, look, the conversation in washington stopped about jobs, about what government can do to somehow stimulate economic growth. we've got to focus on other things. maybe it's tax reform. but we can't do it at the moment. you disagreed with that earlier, saying he can do something about the economy. >> i think he can do a lot about the economy. he could l

that is what obama's doing. he is actually turning to the very clip you played there when he is going after the bush administration, saying look, i inherited a lot of these problems, he's also now talking about being a doer and just that 36 clip was about the new deal and that he needed more time to get things through. i think president obama has to go to a progressive left and talk about building jobs, infrastructure, and do it with enthusiasm like michael moore said. people want to feel john kennedy or an fdr that he is fighting for the middle class and he's already calling himself a middle class warrior, president obama, and if he could sell that in ohio he'll get re-elected. >> well the last get re-elected the only one since roosevelt is bill clinton. sam, is that the right role to go? >> it's true. chris, i've been watching this show intently today. one of the interesting points people have raised is about independents. how do you win the independent vote? what we haven't asked is who are the independents?

he gave the obama campaign a nice piece of tape. but i think that that's the only thing that'll have any lasting effect from this debate which was mostly about herman cain. >> imogen, you're overall impressions tonight. who won? who lost? >> this is it. we've lost christie. we've lost palin. and you look at it and think really? is this the best of the republican party to come up with to lead the free world? i think romney absolutely won tonight but he did wobble. i did not like his answers on the eurozone. and the country too big to fail not clear at all. i think perry is out of it now. he was wobbling over reagan. cain was beaten up. he shown himself as inadequate again. bachmann again, she's out of it. so it was sad to see tonight, i have to say. >> here's bachmann talking about ronald reagan again. here it is. >> in the 1980s ronald reagan produced an economic miracle. and while all of us for wishing and yearning for a third term for ronald reagan, governor perry, you were campaigning and cochairing al gore's election campaign fo

i have no doubt that barack obama will have a square in tripoli named barack obama plaza. but that won't be here. and i think the president and his team are wondering why they aren't getting more support. but this is their fight and that is the mastery and magic i think of what president obama hatched in this. >> so eugene robinson, this was tactically in n some wayes a victory for subtlety. a victory for restraint. for military restraint. a way to go in there big. the president decided not to go in there big. they did not put troops on the ground. there is a long list of things he did not do and in the end, he got list way. >> he did get his way. and in the beginning, remember we first went in to protect libyanian civilians. but the logic from the beginning is that gadhafi had to go. and i think the innovation here is that the president and his military team found a way to use the predator drones to use our intelligence assets to use that sort of, if it's not soft power but not boots on the ground, but to use that power and toward the end of regime change. which we kind o

>> it's obama that should be worried. >> i don't agree. this is the only energy there is on the left and they are reflecting a lot of anger in this country. these -- i agree these demonstrations -- >> you know what -- >> but corporations, politics, are starting to listen. >> do you know what percentage of the ows people are unemployed? >> they're the ones able to get out and there's a legion of unemployed and they're very respectable people, unlike the way they're characterized. >> 15% are unemployed, above the 9.1% national average. but not the national youth average. does that mean anything to you? this is all doug. >> it means to me this is a spontaneous outpouring. the democrats didn't organize it, special interests groups haven't got continue in there. the unions are trying to figure out how they can plug in and some of the progressive -- groups as well they should. >> susan -- >> tea party had an enormous impact in 5010 then could impact 2012 if they begin to channel what they want and organize around jobs and income and equality, no

obama next year. and charles krauthammer on who the democratic party will make the primary villain in the election of 2012. caution, you are about to enter the no spin zone the factor begins right now. captions by closed captioning services built o. o'reilly thanks for watching us tonight. president obama spending our money that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. with a number of european countries on the verge of bankruptcy damaging the bankruptcy. attention shifting to the u.s. bankruptcy could be looming here as well. please listen closely to these statistics. in the year 2007, during the bush administration, federal deficit spending was $161 billion. despite the iraq and afghan wars. four years later, four years, under president obama, the deficit spending $1.3 trillion. 8 times as much. now, to be fair, the economy collapsed on bush's watch and both republicans and democrats committed almost a trillion dollars to prop up the economy. as we all know the stimulus spending did not