a range in the agreed cease fire israel broke the cease fire israel started this conflict greg you want to to reply. yeah i don't think that they're trying to broker a cease fire because at the same time they were the ones who started the hostilities in the first place over a week ago with over four hundred rockets that were watched before israel the side to take out. so if we look out for the beginning of the year you have one thousand two hundred rockets if you look over the last ten years you have twelve thousand rockets it's the onus of hamas to stop these attacks and that's the only reason why israel has responded in the way it started ok moving please jump in look i mean these israeli embassy. talking points and concocted sister sticks you know may may sound good when one preaching to the converted but one also has to occasionally take into account the real world the fact of the matter is this latest round began when israel shelled a group of children playing soccer on a field in the gaza strip and killed a thirteen year old boy the fact of the matter is that palestinian militants

and israel has shown remarkable restraint but now what israel has done is to capitated the military command of hamas and attacked the missile storage spots and that's what they've done so far the next step is up to hamas unfortunately i'm told by the i.d.f. in the last twenty four hours two hundred forty five missiles have been launched that israel so if they continue to do that i'm sure there will be additional attacks up to and including a ground assault if that's the only way for israel to defend itself ok norman where do you came in on this i mean another ground assault you've written a book about the last one. i don't think there will be a ground assault with i do think it's true that it's pretty similar in the build up to what happened in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine back then israel was worried about what it called the parents capacity means its ability to terrorize people in the region after the defeat it suffered in two thousand and six by the party of god that has been and now israel has been suffering one foreign relations debacle after another first there

is that regardless of how israel may see i think at the end of the day israel's decision makers for a west bank palestinian authority controlled by and a gaza palestinian authority controlled by hamas rather than a unified palestinian palestinian political system i would certainly agree with that now in terms i would just like to make two observations to what really are first of all in terms of recognition of hamas and so on while he's. entirely correct to say that that recognition does not yet exist there are in fact and we've just seen it in the past few days now. and there have been for a while primarily through through the egyptians negotiations between israel and hamas and direct negotiations to be sure but negotiations going on for quite some time and that appear much more serious than any talks that have taken place between between israel and the palestinian leadership. and secondly regarding how mouse is positioned on a two state settlement and has in fact frequently. more or less explicitly stated that it would accept a palestinian state on the nine hundred sixty seven bounda

is occupying somebody else's country israel is bombing somebody else's country and israel won't concede land that it's trying to colonize in somebody else's country as a condition of peace talks israel is eating up other people's our economy and of running out of time but it's a very much fascinating discussion many thanks today to my guests are you guys are among an impish grin thanks to our viewers for watching us to see you next time remember across tough rules. and. she didn't sorrow. for escape. barely surviving longing for a godsend. they live in a search for gold. why doesn't it bring them wealth. please please please please. please. please. let mission and free accreditation free in-store charge is free to make amends free. three stooges free. download free blogs just plug in video for your media projects free medio dot r.t. dot com.

the pressure ought not to be put on the people of israel or the government of israel. what we're seeing is publicly obama goes out and says they have the inherent right of self defense, but privately what's happening is israel israelis arg warned not to go on the ground. as you reported, they're on the edge of it. they're going to have to if they're going to stop this ultimately the pressure against israel doesn't come diplomatly. it comes by threatening to cut off the parts change for those f-f-15s and f-16s they need tour dinorder to keep their plen the air. >> nixon helped save israel when he was president by supplying israel with. >> absolutely. >> the parts they needed and the supplies they needed. >> ronald ra reagan did the same thing. inside the government of the united states. particularly at the pentagon, you can bring pressure to bear against the israeli defense forces by simply saying you know, those spare parts that you need, the maintenance chance that's got to be done on those aircraft, boy, that stuff is going to get there a little bit slower. it's happ

in southern israel. by missiles that were launched on purpose at civilians all the israeli attacks on us military targets i mean honestly i don't know what it is i think has what israel woman has being killed dozens of children have injured and then you know as i started more of this is what happens ok you know i mean i jump in go ahead. you know but i would like to. then talks about using human shields and targeting civilians so how the current round begin there was a lull until november eighth november eighth israel with its height precision technology israel killed a palestinian child then there was retaliatory by the palestinian this is this is as usual are going to not already there wasn't all a fire down there were hundreds and hundreds of this was on fire and on fire and they're going to have to let me talk to you then you're going to have to behave let me talk you get your time when you're always going to retaliate by firing them. by firing on israeli soldiers so how israel retaliate israel where

at eleven pm moscow time a tense cease fire now tonight between israel and hamas comes into effect as we speak capping a frenzied international push for a truce. becomes a spider earlier israeli strikes on gaza which brought the death toll to over one hundred fifty and a terrible loss in the center of tel aviv in retaliation. also thousands of students in the streets of london crying out against rising tuition fees and a lack of financial support making it harder to get a higher education. and a human rights blow for bahrain as amnesty international publishes a report showing torture and oppression getting worse and making. good evening and thanks for joining us if you just have one aims kevin zero in this is r t broadcasting live from moscow and a cease fire then between israel and hamas has just come into force something being hammered out during marathon negotiations hosted by egypt israel's been pounding the palestinian territory with missiles in both the air and sea for more than a week in response to hamas says cross border rockets a correspondent in tel aviv reports on the much

in israel under a rocket fire. i mean, you have to really to cover it properly you have to sort of see the humanity in both sides. >> and it really is a very human story on both sides of the border and regular life on both sides of the border ground to a halt. israel they have air raid warning signs and get cover. you don't see people on the streets. most people are indoors. >> here it's much more difficult. gaza is much poorer. even in the best of times life is much more difficult here than it is in israel. israel is in a sense a first world country in terms of living standards. here in gaza, about 75% to 80% of the population are refugees and they have moved out many of them have moved out of the refugee camps but you still have this situation where they look over the border and they remember the homes they lost and that might explain why there's so much passion here about this conflict. >> it's also such a densely populated area and the gaza city densely pop latted and rockets fired sometimes from residential ar

will hamas agree not to throw rockets into israel, which was the main demand that israel had? if you remember, unlike -- when they wanted to get rid of the hamas leadership in gaza, they never said that this time. this was not about regime change or getting rid of hamas. it was about stopping those rockets. if that happens, that will be good for israel. and for hamas, if they manage to get their leaders to be able to survive and not be able to be assassinate bid israel that, would be good, and also if they get the blockade lifted that, will be good too. that's what they wanted. hamas, of course, has emerge as diplomatically triumphant only because it's failed to be isolated as israel, other countries have wanted in the past. >> and as we have always said, by all parties, want to walk away from this claiming victory, and we'll see if that actually occurs. christian, we'll be back with you shortly. thank so much. >> still 52 minutes before the cease-fire is expected to take hold, and we'll see. i mean, we will see how this develops throughout the afternoon, whether or not this i

in why israel cares about civilians. still i mean i mentioned here gentlemen gentlemen nothing's been mentioned here they did the gaza strip is under siege go ahead i would still like to know which arabic newspaper reflects this absolutely ridiculous distorted version of recent history we are now being served up. secondly. is is are the claims that greg norman is making about how mass somehow a justification for mass murder by israel in the gaza strip whether in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine or today or in the next round now peter you mentioned the seeds i mean there are underlying factors here there is the occupation there is that continuously deprived right of self-determination of the palestinian people and of course in more recent years there is a siege and blockade of the gaza strip that's the context what we're seeing now is a symptom of the cause rather than the cause itself. which i can reply that greg. sure the first of all the newspaper was. second of all accusations of mass murder. you know nece

our solidarity has to be with israel. this is a point where israel has been under attack for a long period of time and nothing has solved it. also, during this period of time, i think the importance of achieving a two-state solution really cannot be underestimated. there's going to be no more better partner than mahmoud abbas and i think to a great extent, the inability to enable israel and the palestinians to come together, perhaps this will provide that opportunity. perhaps the secretary of state will play a very dominant role. after all, her husband came the closest of anybody to establishing a two-state solution. so she knows exactly where all of this stands and what might be able to solve what has been an historic and very difficult situation. >> part of the problem for mahmoud abbas is that he's being increasingly seen to be marginalized. hamas seem to be the emerging power there with more control perhaps over the body of palestinians, and he is seen as somebody slightly out of touch from where the real action is. n

and will israel bite. well i mean this didn't start with an attack by the must in fact some sources i think someone r.t. said that that hamas military leader had a peace agreement with israel when he was assassinated by the israelis so certainly the. violations of the cease fire so far and want to do with i guess the lack of discipline in what is a besieged area one of the one of the big besieged areas in the world to know now what will happen is the thing to watch is the right in israel and how they react under the polling numbers for leak what's coming israeli elections show a swing to the so-called extremists they're all extreme in that country so if they act on that and launch another attack on palestine in palestinian areas even as they daily attack arabs every single day in these areas. president obama will have to do some real thinking. it's a bit of a mystery as to what president obama is thinking some people are always prone to liking a president obama giving him more credit than he's due thinking

what does israel want? israel wants hamas to stop firing rockets, especially the long-range rockets, at their populations. certainly there's a good exchange there. but what it's going to take is egyptians or somebody, egyptians are going to be it, providing the security and the guarantees on such an agreement. that's very hard for the egyptians to do. they don't want to be responsible for gaza. so we're going to have to provide -- somebody is going to have to provide inducement for them to do so. i think that's the broad outlines of a cease-fire. a long-term cease-fire. i think it's very doable. >> think about the implications of that. it means the good exchange he talks about is israel stops doing what's legal and that is a blockade and killing terrorists, in exchange for hamas stop doing a double war crime. that's not the way the world should operate. >> let's talk about what is in israel's benefit. what is in israel's benefit and what is the alternative shimon peres was asking about was recognizing they

where israel sits down with hamas? >> this is really political etch loan, but i don't see a near time of -- you know, a day that will be in the near future for this kind of reconciliation. >> there are clearly a number of israelis who wanted more of an operation. prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from the idf perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe even tens of thousands. going deeply into the rockets area where the storage is. looking for those tunnels exactly, because we have bombed something like 140 tunnels in the current operation, out of 400. so going deeply into those places and those civilian areas, where the -- the weaponry and the ammunition is wrareally hid there. this is something you can do only with ground forces. >> do you have any idea that hamas, how many they still have left? >> a small number to our estimation. however -- >> like dozens or -- >> yeah, even less than dozens, keep in mind that iran will try to smuggle in more rockets of this kind s

israel sealed off the main roads around gaza. will israel invade on the ground? >> i think the chances are going up. >> jeffrey white, a former analyst with the defense intelligence agency says an israeli ground invasion of gaza would be a brutal bloody grind. >> there's a pretty high density of population throughout the strip. it's highest in the major areas, gaza city, there are a lot of civilians in other places as well. but the other part of this is that hamas fights from inside the cities. >> cities of narrow streets, bazaars, apartment buildings, translation? a punishing building-to-building slog in a place that's slightly more than twice the size of washington, d.c. we used a google map with cnn contributor general james marks. >> what kind of close combat are we talking about here? >> clearly what we have here in gaza city there are about 500,000 people that live in this city. and you can only imagine the type of combat that's got to take place in this very restricted terrain. >> terrain where marks says israeli troops will be exposed to ambush, sniper fi

back israel? that's the real test. >> what message are we sending in i'll pick it up with juan right after the break. call imperial structured settlements. the experts at imperial can convert your long-term payout into a lump sum of cash today. megyn: juan, your thoughts on weakness provocative and staying silent is somehow a message to the world that we may not have israel's back? >> i don't think that at play at all. mark says words have power and i couldn't agree more. but in this situation i think strengths requires some degree of restraint. the united states has been very clear in saying israel has a right to defend itself and actions speak much louder. the iron dome protecting israel is a u.s.-based idea and one that the u.s. has fund as well as military assets given to the israelis to responds. i don't think there is any question about u.s. support for israel in the arab mind or near the united states. so the words would not serve any great purpose but to add fire to a flame that's burning

israel expanding the bombing campaign in gaza and hamas rockets raining down on southern israel. it's only getting worse. so is the u.s. doing enough to support its ally israel? you'll hear from batched john bolton and senator john mccain and a live report from southern israel. senator-elect ted cruz is here. he said he knows how to get the g.o.p. message out to hispanic voters. you'll hear his plan, but first, the crisis in the middle east. >> we've got the sirens going. we've got the sirens going. we'll keep going. this area was hit once before. we're going to keep moving. we're going to grab this. keep coming this way. >> they're crumbling all over the middle east. >> you have people determined to destroy israel. >> we want hamas to stop firing on us, and we want to create a situation where they cannot fire at us every other day and pair lies after the country. it's a terrorist group that wants the destruction of israel. no nation would put up with what hawaii 6 israel has up until now. they have to defend their people and their nation. >> this is where the rocket hit. you can

israel has intensified the pounding of gaza overnight and. particularly the targeting of governmental and police buildings and the biggest police it biggest police station was totally leveled causing structural damage to nearby buildings some of the biggest governmental structures in gaza city were targeted including the biggest civil service building here in gaza. in the southern area of the gaza strip was targeted heavily overnight particularly the smuggling tunnels which gazans called the survival smuggling tunnels were almost totally destroyed last i continually being pounded with helicopters and f. sixteen s they were struck over sixteen times last night yesterday israel killed three media workers shorthand journalists two of them a cameraman for the t.v. channel another for the educational television channel and israel has admitted that it did deliberately target these civilians according to israel these stations that these media workers work for are not legitimate journalistic enterprises and therefore susceptible to being targeted any

i think israel is focused on iran trying to build up the nuclear capability and what israel might feel it has to do to prevent that. the prospect that there would be attacks launched on israel. >> what role of the americans playing? not much evidence of them. >> the role seems to have been marginal. president obama and secretary clinton have been on the phone with world leaders. the channel in cairo is an intelligence channel. there might be american participation. that is not something we would hear about because it does involve participation by a high- level american official weekend see. >> thank you for joining us. >> rebels in colombia have called a truce at the start of peace talks with the government. they have become -- begun the first face-to-face negotiations in a decade aimed at ending conflict. they will also focus on the distribution of land. that was the main reason behind the establishment of fark in the 1960's. the visit lasted only six hours. today president obama made history touching down in burma. after meeting with the nobel peace prize winner, he delivered a messa

here on issuance of our water and for israel. israel. israel steals eighty percent of the water in the world sparing for itself the consumption of of and is really wrong that's a lie war or for our library law and some guy around us powerless among in fact and i'm sure you are. around it or are you are we all we have to familiarise you so that we are into lies you have to get out of there with your dollars and the flag is real down to the real world i know you can use to know their facts nobody disputes. nobody. norman can hold a firm to see these are you know they're for us in the worst. consume are not in the last second thousand are now on the wrong underground who are of an average probably still near where healy really. is real it's about four times their consumption. of the total power of the total border of their liberal the water supply is. still nothing to do with it. so to talk about now that's that's a lie right or is a lie i think there are sociological reasons. what you say in order to hold water for our flag went like. no i

, a spy for israel. there's a lot of suspicion here about people who may be working for israel sending out information about potential targets, but a very disturbing scene and one that really brings -- gives you a sense of the tenseness and the gravity of the situation here and the hard feelings on the ground here. >> can you give us a sense of the damage in gaza city? >> reporter: well, you know, everywhere you go you can find damage, you know, just looking out from where i am now, about four blocks away is the media center which we saw being hit twice, once on sunday by three rockets yesterday in which a member of islamic jihad was killed as well as one other person who was in the building. a few blocks away another building was hit. shortly after that blast, then later on yesterday a bank was hit just a few blocks away. so it's not too hard to find buildings that have been hit. there's not, you know -- it's not indiscriminate and massive destruction like you would see in sarajevo where shells were bei

and israel, you have a population of 7.6 million people throughout israel. and what we have heard, israel about the size of new jersey again to put it in person purpo -- perspective. millions have lived with a daily threat of rocket attacks coming in from gaza, and what they're talking about now is that the rockets are going farther and farther. we saw one in tel aviv in this area here, israel saying millions of people can now be impacted and affected. this is an example of another city hurt by that area. there are dense populations in those areas that hamas rockets can now apparently reach to. keep in mind, talking about this, the west bank is run by fatah, whereas gaza is run by hamas, we're hearing the world leaders talking about the impact on the larger region. what we're seeing here is a reminder of countries surrounding this. one of the most important here is egypt, egypt dealing with upheaval, as you know, battling militant militants up near gaza, you also have jordan here, and jordan in recent days has had clashes in which protesters upset about the

here you're seeing israel. israel is only the size of new jersey, and the population is about 7.6 million. about three-quarters jewish. there's also muslim populations, christian, and jews. now, you've been hearing from israel officials, more than a million israelis have been living under daily rocket attack and rocket attack threats. some of them in southern israel, but what we've been seeing throughout this conflict, especially in recent days, obviously hamas rockets can reach farther. for example, there are several that made it as far as tel aviv. some were intercepted. there was one down here in greater tel aviv area. just as a sign of how many cities are in that area with dense populations. another thing to keep in mind, this right here is the west bank, the west bank is controlled by fatah, which is a different palestinian faction, and gaza is controlled by hamas, so, suzanne, one thing we're hearing about from palestinian officials, especially in the west bank, is that they're saying this is time to unif

and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you and resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for hope and dialogue, any hope of peace would be out of reach. israel has always extended its hand in peace and will always extend its hand for peace. when we faced an arab leader who wanted peace, we made peace. time and again, we have been met with rejection for our offers and denial of our rights and terrorism. the only thing his story about this speech how much he has ignored history. the truth is that 65 years ago today, the united nations voted to petition the bri

the sweetener was support for israel. support for israel diplomatmatically. standing beside us. upholding our right to defend ourselves in the face of hamas terror. that was very important for us. also it's important for that iron dome missile system which you saw working, anderson, and working so outstandingly, taking down about 85% to 90% of all the incoming rockets and denying hamas the opportunity to -- or the ability to strike at our 5.5 million israelis who were under rocket fire. >> we talked about this, ambassador, a few hours ago. there have now been apparently five rockets launched. a number of them intercepted. but three of them landed in southern israel. how do you see that? how seriously do you take that in terms of a violation of the cease-fire thus far? >> we assumed it would take a while for the cease-fire to take hold. i understand now it has taken hold. there hasn't been fire for a while. of course, we are not firing. there is a cease-fire, anderson. >> all right. ambassador oren, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >>>

despite the opposition inside israel. and. yourself for your other a political price for doing that. italy but. all of different angles if you will train but you know as far as i know the israelis they they are always ready to vote for tough leaders for those who who who who are ready to to go. go all the way in. the conflicts around israeli border is including ground operations so even the two knew who said. high court that he's ready to fulfill the wish of those who insist on a harsher response if i must break the ceasefire do you think it's likely to happen . do you think the war is avoided or there may be a continuation it's a rather controversial situation because even though some polls in newspapers up to eighty percent of the population mostly located in the south. for the continuation of the ground operation but. you know speaking about elections the death toll would be a decisive factor. now likud and. our home for a long labor one party looks to be sure of in the coming election in case also they don't just need anot

israel does not recognize hamas, hamas does not recognize israel's right to exist. can you see a day where that changes that israel sits down with hamas or even recognizes hamas? >> well, this is really a political echelon, but i don't see the near time, a day that there will be in the near future for this type of reconciling. >> prime minister netanyahu spoke about that. what would a ground operation have looked like from that perspective? >> a lot of forces, maybe tens of thousands, going deeply into the rocket areas, where the storages are, looking for the tunnels, we have bombed something like that 140 tunnels in this current operation out of 400. so going deeply into those places, in the civilian areas, where the weaponry and the ammunition is really hidden there, this is something you can only do on ground operation ope >> do you have any type of rockets, how many they still have left? >> a small number to our estimation. >> dozens? >> yeah, even less than dozens, but keep in mind that iran will try to smuggle more rockets of this kind, since they damaged this

israel signed to a violation with israel and with the international community and only by. negotiations can be established in palestinian state and by the way israel is not against a palestinian state israel is against a one sided clear relations we want to negotiate to have security first of all and that the palestinians will recognize that israel is not just a state but a jewish state and a homeland for jews and we want to live in peace that's all we just don't want to do in some area will become another terrorist base as we already have and i mean proponents of course say the peace talks might go better if we're between two more say equal entities rather than israel the powerhouse in a comparable light weight palestine is not a valid point. no because the whole negotiations is to establish a new palestinian state and the oslo accords that was signed in ninety three spoke about the fact that the establishment of a new palestinian state can be only through direct negotiations so now what mahmoud abbas does it's not a step forward it's a step aside or even you know a step.

first assumption israel is our ally that's what comes first so if israel is fighting if there's any military. attack going on we don't talk about the fact that the israeli military is by far the strongest in the region we don't talk about the four point one billion dollars in military aid the u.s. has spent this year we only talk about israel as being the victims and that has its origins back in the cold war you know in the cold war days israel after sixty seven was seen as a great ally of the united states and it was it played a cat's paw role of representing u.s. interests in many parts of the world certainly in the middle east but not only there also as far afield as and gold in mozambique and nicaragua south africa and el salvador in all these places where israel backed up the u.s. provided arms to u.s. backed dictators etc and in that context the work of pro israeli lobbies the traditional jewish lobby the newer christian zionist lobbies all of that influence began to to join it intersected with the strategic value that israel was starting to have for the pentagon for the congr

and violence with israel. so they talked a lot about armed resistance, but they fired very few rockets and they didn't let anybody else do it. because of the internal power struggle and because they want to say to the external leadership and to everybody else in hamas, hey, we rule gaza and we do the fighting against israel, they have unfurled again the banner of armed resistance and dragged this in. now, let me just say, though, israel too escalated at one point. there was a cease-fire that was holding and israel used that cease-fire and they admit this to lull hamas into a false sense of security and murder its military commander, which set off the latest round, so -- and they are in an election cycle and i think israeli politicians are also sinically using this violence to seem tough, to strike a pose, to win points against their rivals, and so i think you have very few clean hands here. i do think, yeah, the change within dynamics within hamas explain why this started again in 2012. >> and very quickly, i

israel is putting so much effort to ensure that civilians are not hurt. i'm sorry but look at what we're spending on our money we're spending our money on defending our civilians making sure they're safe and making sure that we can we do not hurt civilians when we go to war what this hamas spend their money on they are hiding behind television crews they are hiding behind journalists and israel is doing something on paralleled in the history of warfare it making sure that people who are not involved are not killed and israel is really been commended by all countries not just for having the right to defend its citizens but also for the fact that it is couldn't ducting itself in a way that is very proportional and very measured well journalists an anti-war activist don de bar says a cease fire might save the palestinians from bombs but not from the consequences of the years long israeli blockade. their condition degraded from being storing to being starving and bombed and now the bombing apparently will stop and so that is a reason to celebrate as meager as

and israel. and then, she will then go to egypt and talk with egypt's president mohamed mursi and egypt is taking the lead in this negotiation with hamas. so u.s. believes that egypt is playing a very concrete and positive role, and so it looks like all sides are prepared to give some more time for diplomacy to be worked out. >> christiane, what's your sense of the american role in this decision to halt the ground invasion? obviously, like you said, it would have been very unseemly had it been done while hillary clinton was on the ground there. but is she going because there has been progress? or is she going because she needs to break some sort of stalema stalemate? >> well, probably to lend support, and to, you know, put the u.s. point of view, and to, as they say, look face-to-face at the counterparts and be there in the room with them. this is a very critical time. everybody in this region knows it. of course, everybody in the u.s. knows, too, that the last thing you want is to see a massive

israel. msnbc's martin fletcher is live in tel-aviv now. has night time offered any relief from the rocket attacks? >> reporter: actually, it hasn't. the rocket attacks continue. an israel town was hit about a half hour ago but the pace has quieted in the central part of israel. all eyes still on this one question whether or not israel will launch a ground invasion into gaza. reserve troops are still being called up, still moving to the units, joining the regular army, poised on them of gaza for the order that they don't know if it will come. meanwhile, there's very strong negotiations going on especially among arab countries with hamas and trying to get hamas to agree to a truce with israel and get israel to agree, too. israel prime minister talking to the american president talking to the egyptian president, who's talking to hamas. a possibility of a truce midweek, which could head off -- would head off an israel invasion in the short term anyway. >>> in 2009 we saw 200 of these rocket atta

how does israel know he's inside there? >> israel is in the neighborhood. they have been there for quite some time. they have to own the neighborhood in order to live there. so israel has sources and has folks on the ground in gaza and they have forever. so they have a pretty good sense of what's going on and they're tracking very key targets as a result of that kind of what i would call intimate human intelligence they can get. clearly israel sees the media outlets in gaza as a means to distribute what they would call operational information. so in their mind, it meets the criteria for engagement. >> israel said it's being very, very careful not to hit civilians. in your mind is it being careful enough? >> oh, sure. israel really needs to do that. and they -- and they will do their utmost. they have precision guided weapons. they also have, as i have indicated, they probably have folks on the ground that are lazing or illuminating targets as well. h is all very, very covert. they have to be able to do that to try to minimize the collateral damage at this e

. -- gaza and israel. it would further damage the hope of peace and security. does the foreign secretary further accept that given reports of overflowing wards in hospitals and the prior degradation of those facilityings as a result of the blockade, it is urgent that the free and unfettered access is guaranteed for medical and humanitarian personnel? will he also set up what discussions he has held with the egyptians about humanitarian access and specifically iranian missile technology not only during these volatile days of conflict, but also in the longer term? on saturday we on this side to have house called for a full-scale u.n. diomatic initiative to end the violence. we urged the u.n. secretary to travel to the region and ll that many that he has now done so because it will be vital in helping to bring this cnflict to an end. past military angst -- action has failed to bring peace. alongside the suffering of the palestinian people. occupation and blockade is not a strategy for peace, it is a recipe fo

anti-israel. he calls israel terrorist day today. egypt is run by the brotherhood, as you know is the mother organization of hamas. which is simply palestinian wing of the egyptian muslim brotherhood. lastly, they dropped in a month ago and left behind half a million dollars. there are an array of countries. what is hamas trying to do? translate the increase in strength to new agreements. the demands are for the cease-fire that israel agrees not to attack again. to allow hamas to build up its weaponry. and pledge not to hit any hamas leaders, and not to hit in the future any hamas weapons or missiles. which means it would have a truce, it will never have a peace. but have a truce. hoodna. during which they will become extremely strong, develop hundreds of thousands of rockets that can hit israel. can hit tell avive and jerusalem. and -- tel aviv and jerusalem and put 80% of israel under the rocket. israel will never agree to that. that is slow suicide. so, as long as hamas is demanding that. offen

of course, iran, that is looking forward to this proxy war to test israel, see what israel is able to accomplish. i think part have what israel has to accomplish is try to disarm hamas so hamas can't be a weapon against them if they ever have to attack iran. >> greta: i don't know how much choice there is. probably zero, but the whole idea that president morsi is one going to broker the deal. he did call israel a terror state and obviously taken his side. secondly, his country has been the country that iran sent these missiles that can reach tel aviv and jerusalem have been laundered through sudan, laundered through egypt, laundered into the gaza and into hamas. egypt is up to their eyeballs in supplying hamas with these weapons that can now reach these cities. >> this the guy that wants to have blind shake released trying to bomb the hell out of my city. to be honest broker, he is completely on the side of hamas. he has made it clear he supports islamic extremists and terrorism. if he were interested in peace here, he would be saying to hamas, sand down. if you keep lobbing missiles

fired from gaza into israel today u.n. secretary ban ki-moon called for a cease fire in gaza saying a ground operation there must be avoided. why i reckon it's a maybe a military targets inside gaza. and enjoys to be damage to civilian infrastructure. is only acceptable under any circumstances the excessive use of force is only can and must be rejected. meanwhile the u.s. is sending warships near israel on border two thousand five hundred marines u.s. officials say they will be on standby in case americans need to be a vacuum waited from israel now the officials say the ships are not meant to serve any combat role but the decision to send the ships signals a growing concern over just where the conflict is headed for more i spoke with r.t. international correspondent paula slayer i first asked her if talk of talks about a cease fire has been any comfort for the people there well it's it means comfort because it is a sign on the horizon that what we've witnessed for the past seven days is coming to an end but it certainly do

it's interesting that israel's allies around the world, only two come out and said in defense of israel. britain and obama and the united states. the rest of them are holding back. one of the reasons is they don't want to see invasion of gaza like israel did the last time where a lot of people died including a lot of israelis. i think everything will be done to try to keep that off the table. and see if they can get a negotiated settlement. it will do away with barricades on gaza with a long-term commitment by gaza not to launch missiles. >> dana: andrea, that issue of a long-term situation or solving it quickly. hamas and netanyahu said we don't want a short-term solution. we want something more lasting. that would include something that both sides say they won't do. from your per speculative, you were talking earlier i morning about the timing of it. when you get a second term as a president, and second terms are usually filled with foreign policy. this is the first test of the second obama administration. >> andrea: right. a lot of people are looking at the timing and they are specul