man named rand paul. it was his role in the rand paul senate campaign that led people curious about mr. hightower to troll through his presence on myspace. and there it was soon this covered in addition to the tough guy band photos of commander, mr. hightower's site also included comments like this. posted on his myspace page. "happy "n" word day." that's in celebration of martin luther king jr. day that year. happy "n" word day posted alongside this photo on the myspace page of rand paul's senate campaign spokesperson. this stuff was reportedly posted there for a couple of years and was still just there waiting to be discovered once rand paul picked this guy to be the public face of his campaign for u.s. senate. once this was reported out, mr. hightower had to resign as spokesman for the senate campaign. that was a campaign rand paul went on to win. that embarrassment happened back in 2009, and part of the reason i think that issue stuck more than it might have with anybody else in politics is because th

>> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. the obama administration said this week it will postpone a key element of obamacare until 2016 to give another year to provide health insurance coverage. individual mandate is still on track for 2014 and new wall street analysis says healthy consumers could see their insurance rates double maybe even triple set for the exchanges set to open october 1st. joining us is columnist, dan henninger. joe rago and washington columnist kim strassel. you have been predicting this for some time. should we welcome this delay? >> i think there are a few things. this indicates that there is an apparatus so complex they can't even enforce it themselves. i also think it's an admission that the critics were right. a lot of low wage businesses, restaurants, hospitality, growing businesses starting to calm themselves 49ers. >> paul: 50 employee maximum? >> right. it's leading to fewer workers. >> paul: the way it would work if you have more than 50 employees and you don't provide health insurance you a h

did i just sing with paul mccartney? >> (together) ♪ heaven, i'm in heaven and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak ♪ when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek ♪ (cheers and applause) that was very nice. i smell a hit. we've got all this equipment here. would you think about doing some music for us, please? (cheers and applause) >> stephen: i'd love to! >> stephen: it's an absolute joy a pleasure. look at that! (cheers and applause) "wings over america" c.d. reissue. we'll be right back with paul mccartney! come on! (cheers and appl ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ well, when i met you at the station ♪ you were standing with a bootleg in your hand ♪ i took you back to my little place ♪ for a taste of a multi-colored band ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi the night is young ♪ she'll be my funky little mama ♪ gonna rock it and we've only just begun ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi with the music on ♪ won't say bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye ♪ 'til the night has gone i'm gonna do it to you â

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer the net will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage leadership agrees i think he got a fair shake he'd a won iowa out early to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron p

>> paul: this week on the journal editor yam report. waste and politics and the zimmerman verdict as civil rights charges, president obama weighs in the controversy in very personal terms. remember those rogue cincinnati irs agents. one involved an obama appointee. war on walmart and latest push for higher wages could hurt the very workers it claims to help. ♪ ♪ >> freeway von martin could have been me 35 years ago. there are very few african-american men who haven't had the experience of being followed when they are in shopping stores. that includes me. if you ask african-american men who haven't had the experience walking across the street and locks click on the doors of cars. >> paul: that was president obama on friday speaking in very personal terms about race in the wake of george zimmerman's acquittal in the case of trayvon martin. as protests continued across the country and pressure grows to bring federal civil rights charges against zimmerman. jason riley joins me more with reaction on the president. that could have been tr

don't mention paul mccartney. >> well, i was talking to paul about it. sir paul. i think it actually brings to issue this point which is is sex addiction something that should disqualify something that should be made? they will be like, it is no different than alcoholism. and it should. if you can't hold a job as a manager at hooter's you can't hold a job as mayor. >> there is no evidence he ever had sex. >> but there is evidence he is offered things. he is offered jobs. >> who are we to judge a man who has made the same mistake 80,000 times? is it our place to judge? he says i am a person -- i am a man with a sex addiction. no. you are a sex addiction with a man. that's what you are. you have no ability to control the compulsion. >> he sent another d-pic. after all of that? that is a problem. that is not normal. >> it was a much better angle though. >> i am telling you what, seriously after he had this press conference he went into the bathroom and sent another one. >> and then he said i told you we were -- >> what america doesn't want to understand is some of th

that is where the paul family always goes for the money. but that is also the kind of approach in republican primary that leaves you in the end with nothing really to trade on at a convention. >> no, look, at the end of the someday, if you're running to be commander-in-chief in a difficult, dangerous complex world. talking about ending foreign aid for every country in the world just -- displays a stunning naivete about america's role in the world. and i think there is a consensus in both parties that that is the idea that is pretty far field from the main stream of american politics. rand paul's top strategic challenge is to the degree to have he is able to distance himself from his father. but if he is going to run as a diet coke version of the old man he is going to have a very, very difficult time in a republican primary. he is trying to mainstream himself. he had a very difficult month with the wacko who was on his staff, the southern avenger, and if you're running for president you can't carry people like that with you in close proximi

congressman and presidential nominee dr ron paul he recently announced that he is launching the ron paul channel this summer that will be broadcast exclusively over the internet and focused on his message of peace and prosperity perry and boring has more. representative ron paul retired from congress last year after an eight term stent but the seventy eight year old has not retired from what he calls the revolution and he just announced he will be launching the ron pollack channel this summer but he's not finished he's looking for a way to contribute to continue to advance the ball down the field and this is certainly a good way for him to do that i wouldn't expect him to just retire on a rocking chair out there on a porch in texas dr paul ran for president twice in his last election he felt he didn't get fair media coverage peter said agree i think he got a fair shake he'd a won iowa out early to won new hampshire he would have had a lot of momentum he might have actually been our nominee and i think if ron paul had been the republican nominee he would be retired now doing the ron paul

>> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. good news from the big apple, murders are down 30% from all-time low. fewest shootings in two decades. despite the progress, new york city police department has come under fire for stop question and frisk policy which opponents say is tantamount to racial profiling. last month they passed two bills that could restrain the controversial program. my guest says this week will be a set back for the city. ray kelly, new york city police commissioner. tell us how stop, question and frisk works and why you do it? >> it's a practice that is integral to policing in america. police officers are authorized by statute and also validated by supreme court decision in 1968. they are authorized to stop and question someone who is a reasonably believed has committed is committing or is about to commit a crime. it is fundamental to policing that officers are given the right to inquire as to what is going on. people lump stop, question and frisk. in new york city half the stops result in the frisk. what

did i just sing with paul mccartney? >> (together) ♪ heaven, i'm in heaven and my heart beats so that i can hardly speak ♪ when we're out together dancing cheek to cheek ♪ (cheers and applause) that was very nice. i smell a hit. we've got all this equipment here. would you think about doing some music for us, please? (cheers and applause) >> stephen: i'd love to! >> stephen: it's an absolute joy a pleasure. look at that! (cheers and applause) "wings over america" c.d. reissue. we'll be right back with paul mccartney! come on! (cheers and appl ®:3qóuóuü6 ,#e$sñ!l)á<í@0@h ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ well, when i met you at the station ♪ you were standing with a bootleg in your hand ♪ i took you back to my little place ♪ for a taste of a multi-colored band ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi the night is young ♪ she'll be my funky little mama ♪ gonna rock it and we've only just begun ♪ we're gonna get hi, hi, hi with the music on ♪ won't say bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye, bye-bye ♪ 'til the nigh

paul. launching this summer, ron paul tv, the three had-time presidential contender will be hitting the internet with a subscripti subscription-only network where the elder paul will "present news that would never be shown or discussed on more traditional news outlets." residents of planet paul, it is time to turn off the tv and turn on truth. >> coming soon -- ron paul takes the fight from washington. >> we see an opening now to really have an impact. >> and brings it to you through the powerful world of digital media. >> we are see egg the e-- seein end of an era. >> this is exciting. >> is it exciting for rand paul though? >> it is not that exciting for rand paul. who has big national ambitions. i actually interviewed him yesterday, not specifically about this but in the course of the interview i did happen to mention his dad and how they compared. he was clearly a little peefd by it. very polite, fielded the question but sort of deflected it by saying, look, i'm my own man, i'm a senato

paul is understandably exhausted. captain roy knows that no matter what plan he comes up with, he'll need maximum effort from everybody involved including 11-year-old paul. >> at the time, he was getting real sleepy, so i talked to him and asked, do you play baseball? he said, oh yeah. he perked up. i said, you know how you are out there and it is hot and you are tired and your coach wants to give you a little more physical effort and things to push yourself? and that actually kind of perked him up a little bit more. >> captain roy runs through his options. none of their usual rescue techniques, pulley system, drilling, powerful air bags to separate rock, seem like they'd work in this situation. and just then, it hits him. >> i thought of wesson oil, give some lubrication. >> wessen oil, not exactly a technique you learn in rescue school, but he's trained to solve problem fast. so he dispatches people including paul's brother tommy, to come back with the popular vegetable oil. >> so we said, okay, we'll be right back.

and then within a year of that, rand paul had him on staff on the payroll writing rand paul's book. and now that rand paul is getting asked about it, senator paul says the whole secessionist neoconfederacy thing was a youthful indiscretion which this 39-year-old put down months before rand paul hired him. that's apparently all you have to say. that's how rand paul is explaining that he's keeping this guy on with him. salary paid by the taxpayers. as he heads to purple state nevada this weekend to attend one of two conservative movement and republican party vegas events this weekend spotlighting the most ambitious republican federal officeholders in the nation alongside the nation's leading proponents of the theory that our country's first black president could not possibly be american, he must be secretly foreign, his presidency is illegitimate and it's a giant conspiracy. when republicans talk to each other about how to spend their time, especially in states like nevada where elections have been pretty close, where republicans conceivably could have a shot at being competitive in a

and that was our tease paul scott reported. moving on to the latest efforts on capitol hill to close the detention facility at guantanamo bay while some reports indicate that a hunger strike there which is now lasted nearly six months is starting to slow down some members of the senate are ready to give up on closing gitmo so the senate judiciary committee held a hearing this afternoon on closing the facility and what implications that might have on our national security and our record of human rights artie's liz wald joined us earlier from capitol hill and i asked her if the senate seems finally willing to close the detention facility at guantanamo bay yeah i think so sam today was the first significant congressional hearing on closing guantanamo bay that we have heard since two thousand and nine of course president obama ran on the platform that he was going to shut this down of course of that has not happened but we did hear from the chairman and the chairman presiding over this committee today senator dick durbin and dick d

paul has a different take. new polls show rand paul is now leading in the republican primary field. >> ask bob about that. for 2016. do you believe -- two questions. do you believe they're putting their toe in the water for 2016, and what do you think the republican mindset will be if you had to prognosticate, will it be more conservative or libertarian when it comes to voting. >> strange libertarianism running in the republican party through dwight eisenhower, enormous split in '64, more libertarian forces taking over from the moderate conservative republicans. this is nothing new. it is becoming something brighter on the stage of politics because you have two people who are pretty good at what they do. haven't had a rand paul who is out and out libertarian in congress for a long time. so he raises questions which have been there a long time. >> duh. >> he was never taken seriously. this guy is taken seriously. >> we read, dana, is it going to be more conservative or libertarian, that's inaccurate. i think ran

paul will be signing books so feel free to talk to him after. paul is really a wonderful guy. on top of that he is a journalist who got his start in journalism after a career manufacturing which he said in his bio, which i didn't know and was a reporter at the palm beach post in florida where he came across a group of marines who knew bill manchester the famous author of the first two "the last lion" and as a as a feature writer got to know this group in got to know paul manchester and the rest is history literally because paul went on to take over this book project and write the third volume which has been out for months and is doing very well. i've had a i have had a chance to read it and it's amazing book if you haven't. so, paul welcome and tell us how this project started and how it came about. >> thank you. the project began 60 odd years ago as a little boy. i always get confused over that question, where did it begin because it's kind of nebulous but i would say it began with those six marines in 1996 who served on okinawa with bill manchester. they were going to have a

i think that this is true of jean paul gaultier's work. i know that have been friends for a very long time. it is my honor to introduce both suzy menkes, fashion editor of the international herald tribune, and mr. jean paul gaultier. [applause] >> the love seat. [laughter] i just want to know, can you hear me? please shout loudly if you cannot. [laughter] yes or no, you can hear? >> somebody said no. >> mic people, can i be heard? should i start? ok, good. so before i introduced one of the funniest, wittiest, most amusing and funkiest designers that i know, i would like to start with something a little bit more serious. you know, in fashion, the reason that people laughed seem obvious when you see the exhibition of all it's incredible glory and excitement. but at the same time, there were real reasons why designers laughed, and one of them, when it comes to jean paul gaultier, is probably what is talked about least. it is the technique, the skill, the handwork, the knowledge. sometimes it gets buried underneath the fantasies of the close.

i mean, rand paul i know what rand paul's politics are quite well. he's quite open about them. his father, he has much of the same politics as his father. his father is quite open about them. chris christie is not someone i think about in foreign policy at all. you have this great blog post, you cited an excerpt from a book, christie making a pilgrimage to see henry kissinger in 2011 when he is thinking about running, he said, i haven't given any deep thought to foreign policy. kissinger, don't worry about that, we can work with you on that. foreign policy is instinct, it's character. that's what foreign policy is. you make the point the interventionists find interventionists to cultivate and recruit. >> you care about foreign policy, you wake up in the morning, you're more serious than anybody in this room about foreign policy, why to you keep looking? not just chris christie with henry kissinger, it's sarah palin and the -- >> george w. bush. >> after he had become president. before that, it was john mccain. he was more experienced in foreign policy. they supplied an entire k

feel free. >> watching paul in the work release center was a little sad. he seemed like a fish out of water, and i could tell at that point he started to get nervous. you know, he had lived for 26 years in prison. he knew what to do there, and suddenly he looked like he was at a loss. >> am i anxious? yeah. is there knots in my stomach? yeah. i'm ready though. i have done everything i can possibly do over the last 26 years to be ready and now it's time for me to make the next step. >> the next time we checked in with paul, he'd been on work release for just over a month and had been allowed to leave the facility for limited periods of time. >> sergeant fitzpatrick on the evening had to make a few stops, and he kind of drove me around town. we stopped at a circuit city, so i got to check out a lot of the technological innovations over the past quarter century plus that i had no idea of, and i gravitated toward the huge tv with the surround sound, the real plush leather seats, and i'm like, yeah, i can get used to this. >> but he would find challenges in eve

liberals love pope john paul xxiii. what pope francis is saying, let's honor and revere both men. >> reporter: a chance to unite the catholic church. shaken during john paul's reign and ever since by sex abuse and corruption scandals. corruption scandals. today at st. patrick's cathedral, john paul's impending canonization was welcome news. >> if there's anybody that kind of brought people together, it was pope john paul ii. >> exciting to have a saint that we knew. that we live through. >> reporter: the people's pope, now soon to become the people's saint. michelle franzen, nbc news, new york. >>> here in new york, the medical examiner identified the remains of a victim of the 9/11 attacks, almost 12 years later. jeffrey wahls, a new york fire department lieutenant from staten island. he was 37 when he died, leaving a wife and young son. his sister said the family thought about his death every day, and is taking the identity of his remains as a sign that he is okay. >>> up next, an honor for a brave man in boston. >>>

here is more with senator paul. [video clip] angers me to support regimes that put questions to death. -- that put christians to death. i say no more money to countries doing that. [applause] there is a war on christianity, not just from the liberal elites at home, but worldwide. your government, or more correctly you, are having to pay for it. things youof the have seen with rand paul is he made a big trip to israel in january. there were two purposes of the trip. one was to reassure the pro- israel cruddy does not share all of his father's views. the other purpose was to rally his evangelical christian base senator paul has appealed to christians. he talked about refusing to intervene in syria. he makes the point that christians would be at risk if assad fell. he is playing to multiple cross. one of those is the evangelical supporters. host: the next call is from spencer -- jeff. caller: you have touched on this a little bit. --er president of fish president bush, who declared himself the war president, you touche

to rand paul's kentucky and other states. think of them as the gimme states, if you will, who take much more from the federal government than they ever pay for in federal tax revenue. for every dollar rand paul's kentucky sends to washington kentucky gets back $1.57. chris christie might be seeking the electoral votes of rand paul's gimme gimme state someday. so he will probably use a different line of defense against rand paul's gimme gimme gimme nonsense. joining me now, steve mcmahon, veteran democratic strategist and co-founder of purple strategies. steve, who are you betting on in this fight? >> i love it. i hope they go and they fight to a draw and they fight a very long time, 15 rounds. >> listen, i think rand paul has taken on something pretty big when he tries to fight with chris christie on this kind of thing within the republican party. >> yes. >> his father got exactly 8% of the delegates -- >> that's right. >> -- last time using the paul family vision of foreign policy and national security in the republican prim

paul believes is happening. therefore, he -- i don't know what he thinks about manny, i want to ask him tomorrow. we have got manning coming up behind you. but, you are right. i mean, the people who support snowden and manning are the far, far left. and he has common ground with them. he does reject most of their philosophy. >> well, perhaps, bill. but look at what he is -- look at where he is on this issue. i mean, this is something that has some roots in the republican party going back many decades. and it has been a ideological struggle between those who would identify themselves as internationalist who's are not adverse necessarily to foreign exploit, and those who identify -- who would never say this but who in effect are isolationists. this is not a new argument. and it's pretty clear where senator paul is coming from. it is so-to-some extent where his father was on these issues, although i think he seems less quirky than his father always did to people. because is he a senator, he has a bigger mega phone

this weekend, rand paul miklaszewskied governor chris christie for saying as paul put it, gimme, give me all my hurricane sandy money now. he's playing with fire. let me finish tonight with the meeting taking place between israeli and palestinian officials right here in the american capital. final status of negotiation pchz who could have believed? this is "hardball." the place for politics. >>> well, guess who's coming to dinner or lunch? actually? hillary clinton had lunch with president obama today at the white house. the lunch was closed to the press, but aides say the president invited his former secretary of state and the lunch was a friendly chance to "catch up." there they are together outside. a beautiful day today. hillary clinton is having breakfast tomorrow with vice president joe biden who may well be her chief rival should she decide to run for the nomination in 2016. we'll be right back. and that's why we use angie's list. online or on the phone, we help you hire right the first time with honest reviews on over 720 local services. i want it done right. i don't want to h

christie and paul continued that fight yesterday. >> i find it interesting that senator paul is saying -- accusing us of having gimme, gimme, gimme attitude towards federal spending. maybe senator paul could deal with that when he's trying to deal with the reduction of spending on the federal side, but i doubt he would because most washington politicians only care about bringing home the bacon so that they can get reelected. >> this is the king of bacon talking about bacon? he's making a big mistake picking a fight with other republicans because the republican party is shrinking in new england and the northeast part of our country. i'm the one trying to grow the country by talking about libertarian ideas of privacy and the internet. attacking me isn't helping the party. he's hurting the party. >> a poll out in iowa shows rand paul is out in front with 6%. christie is tied with jeb bush and paul ryan with 13. all within the margin of error. for any politicians, it doesn't make a lot of sense to attack chris christie. he's got approval rating in the 70s. he loves a fight. >> he does. >>

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paul, what stands out as you listen to this juror? >> the fact that she starts off with saying that testimony from the actual defendant would not have made a difference, and i've been doing this a long time. i don't think i've ever heard a juror say that before. but they were so convinced by the presentation that's what she believed and the fact that she d tied it to the instructions saying if those same instructions were given, there's no issue about overcharging and no issue about child endangerment. to me, what that tells me is i think the lawyers, especially from the prosecution, should have done a better job and concentrated on those instructions more to make them more clear. it's very clear that she didn't understand or she didn't like, it's clear they rejected the perspective from the prosecution. >> the key strategic decision that the prosecution made is underlined by her testimony, which is they decided to introduce all those tapes, of his police interviews, interviews with fox news. they put his story in front of the jury. t

paul police have released new video from an incident in august of 2012. in it shows 31-year-old eric hightower being arrested by st. paul police. the night before he made pretty serious threats to his girlfriend. you see the officer kick hightower before making the arrest. a lot of people were upset about this video. what's knew is the video from when they had him in the back of the squad car. >> can you please wipe my face, please. >> get in the car. >> what am i being arrested for? >> entering the back seat, this is an officer, he is trying to grab him by the shirt, he eventually grabs his hair. then he has pepper spray. the officer then drives him to the police station. the whole time, high tower is in in serious pain. prosecutors determined no charges should be filed against either officer. the update is, according to the "st. paul pioneer press" the chief has decide'd to fire one officer and sus penld the other. the officers are going through the union grievances process. eric hightower pled guilty to all of the charges of the threats he made to his

and that was artie's paul scott reporting. and now on to a story that could have been ripped straight from the headlines of the onion the n.s.a. which has the power to read all of our emails is apparently unable to read its own e-mails pro publica filed a freedom of information act requests looking into the agency's p.r. efforts after a very friendly documentary about the n.s.a. aired on the national geographic channel basically pro publica was asking for records of e-mail exchanges between the n.s.a. and the national geographic channel but the n.s.a. freedom of information act officer cindy blocker responded to the request saying quote there's no central method to search an e-mail at this time with the way our records are set up unfortunately she acknowledged it's quote a little antiquated and archaic. but the n.s.a. could have bigger problems on its hands namely what's happening in congress today as we near a key vote in the house to defund part of the n.s.a.'s surveillance programs targeting american citizens that amendment

of rand paul going forward. chris christie has an intangible appeal of people who don't know him yet. he speaks people's language, and that always helps in retail politics. >> it's interesting, you don't find appeal in either of these two people. >> there is a veil of i'm a regular guy. i call people idiots and dummies, i'm one of you guys, but in reality he does the same work that other politicians to do these things. that was one of the hurdles that he has to get beyond his weight problem. he addressed openly. i'm just a regular guy. that appeal goes for him. but at the end-- >> jayar, jayar, that's what helps him in a way with republicans because he is a republican. he can appeal to people who aren't. but when you look at what this guy does he is a republican. he can go into south carolina and say, i lost some weight, i joked about it. look what i did, i'm fine. look at how i cut the budget, and they like that. >> and squashed gay marriage. >> right, yes. >> ' >> he's a brooks brother rioter in a suit. >> we'

but paul's horse is still completely out of control. it runs straight at a horse whose driver is disabled and can't exit the buggy. but a judge scares it off by tossing papers at it. >> all horses are hurt animals. when they're in a panicked situation they want comfort in another animal or person. a horse that is running free, he want the to get near another horse and have the comfort of that. >> shouts and screams by onlookers spook the horse even more. it makes another run at the same horse and this time it slams right into it and its disabled driver. a judge grabs paul's horse, finally stopping him and chuck's son matthew frees the disabled driver just as the horse bolts and continues the med lamb. >> he had the instinct to go and grab her out of the cart before that horse took off or that could have been a light threatening situation. >> watching this unfold, it's surrealistic. and the one horse charges into another horse and stops. and the second horse takes off. my mind was like oh, good, a fresh horse. that's all we need. >> the