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the pakistani taliban -- afghan taliban who thought -- few more words about the afghan taliban. the afghan taliban collaborated with al qaeda, and the like, but it never merged. a couple of very good studies that come out in recent years explaining there was never a merger, and had used afghan tally ban, afghan taliban for their financial needs, had used al qaeda. however in case of pakistani taliban, there was more of a merger that has taken place. the nature of the group and their publications, their media, and their -- pakistani taliban are quite active on media, on social media, afghan taliban and pakistani taliban. pakistani taliban are more -- they have moved far closer to al qaeda. in fact today if you ask -- many of the experts, how do we define and analyze al qaeda today? 0 you will not be able to explain the dynamics without explaining the dynamics of the pakistani taliban. that's the kind of merger that has taken place. this bring monday to the point i was earlier referring to about iraq. believe -- video0sen youtube, believe that 300 pakistani taliban and some of 0 t
the pakistani taliban -- afghan taliban who thought -- few more words about the afghan taliban. the afghan taliban collaborated with al qaeda, and the like, but it never merged. a couple of very good studies that come out in recent years explaining there was never a merger, and had used afghan tally ban, afghan taliban for their financial needs, had used al qaeda. however in case of pakistani taliban, there was more of a merger that has taken place. the nature of the group and their...
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>> for the pack is taliban -- pakistani taliban? there are so many studies that a major chunk of money is coming from opium and you hear different members of the international forces name different people. if you asked the british you will get a different answer. the tragedy is from the american perspective they are held captive in afghanistan. it was haphazard and it was very well-meaning but all the good intentions with a lot of taxpayer money your money and my money but those were planned in an effective fashion. they were given a timeline so in the timeline so no one went after afghanistan and in strong fashion. it was small efforts here and there. the opium producers knew that the only way they could succeed in the function has to continue to get 30% and maybe a 50% cut. dividing them between the old guard in pakistan and the insurgents in afghanistan are getting a major chunk of their money from opium. there is no doubt. secondly there are some declassified materials in the wikileaks are leaked information and i have some rest
>> for the pack is taliban -- pakistani taliban? there are so many studies that a major chunk of money is coming from opium and you hear different members of the international forces name different people. if you asked the british you will get a different answer. the tragedy is from the american perspective they are held captive in afghanistan. it was haphazard and it was very well-meaning but all the good intentions with a lot of taxpayer money your money and my money but those were...
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taliban and pakistan's zone of comfort as opposed to the pakistani taliban. i'm still wondering what exactly was the reaction of taliban on pakistan's decision to site where the united states post 11 -- post-9/11? if they felt that kind of betrayal than i would assume that their reaction should have been, there should have been some sort of position within them and wouldn't that create attention against the state of pakistan? >> both very good questions. they felt there was a betrayal and i mentioned that is in chapter 3 or four and you are right. this is obvious from the book who has written a book with the taliban. he was ambassador to pakistan a close friend of pakistan. you can read the book and see the distaste he has for pakistan because he thinks the pakistanis -- there are simply no doubt about it. that is why have some doubts about the nomenclature. but still we know for a fact from various studies that the majority of taliban either had moved to pakistan with their families. recently there was a mullah who was killed who was the taliban leader who w
taliban and pakistan's zone of comfort as opposed to the pakistani taliban. i'm still wondering what exactly was the reaction of taliban on pakistan's decision to site where the united states post 11 -- post-9/11? if they felt that kind of betrayal than i would assume that their reaction should have been, there should have been some sort of position within them and wouldn't that create attention against the state of pakistan? >> both very good questions. they felt there was a betrayal and...
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other taliban. there were attempts made to engage pakistani taliban because at least part of the reason why pakistani taliban became so lethal and reacted because the only way that pakistan attempted to work with them was through kinetic means. and they smartly from their point of view moved out of the tribal area which is a hub. they moved into the mainstream pakistan where it is extremely difficult to monitor them to do any surveillance. so that's the kind of nature, that's my analysis. now coming to more of academic not for very long in terms of how do we understand based on any of the major theories and any of the major issues because the brief answer to both these pakistan and afghanistan problem can be whether it is a kinetic approach you need, whether it is a broader law enforcement approach you need, or is it about education. is it about the rule of law system and i think all those are very valid ideas from a long-term perspective, but to be able to tackle this challenge or to be able to und
other taliban. there were attempts made to engage pakistani taliban because at least part of the reason why pakistani taliban became so lethal and reacted because the only way that pakistan attempted to work with them was through kinetic means. and they smartly from their point of view moved out of the tribal area which is a hub. they moved into the mainstream pakistan where it is extremely difficult to monitor them to do any surveillance. so that's the kind of nature, that's my analysis. now...
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pakistani taliban. something has to be done about the analytic cold capability of the pakistani government. >> but the absence of the capture or killing of any of these big leaders still remains a very open question. nassari. e to dr. no practices a unique learning experience to hear these three it distinguished experts talking about that area which has been affecting us all this time. -- i am a pakistan american league. the comments about the army and the area of disconnect. thently, in pakistan, entire higher echelon of the army, i found them converging with total consensus. they were really speaking with one voice. sometimes, -- that is because of the politicians statements and other things that irritate them. other than that, they're working together in an army unit. they were working closely with this administration. he might be -- which we don't. reward to terrorism. the enemy is faceless. even the superpowers have generally failed in this territory. given a timeline or a timeframe, our closure of
pakistani taliban. something has to be done about the analytic cold capability of the pakistani government. >> but the absence of the capture or killing of any of these big leaders still remains a very open question. nassari. e to dr. no practices a unique learning experience to hear these three it distinguished experts talking about that area which has been affecting us all this time. -- i am a pakistan american league. the comments about the army and the area of disconnect. thently, in...
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the pakistani taliban unlike the iran taliban, a few more words about that taliban. the iran taliban coordinated with the likes that never merged. there were some good studies it came out in recent years -- they had used the afghan taliban for their purposes, their financial needs and use al qaeda but in case of pakistani taliban, there was more of a merger that had taken place. the nature of the group, and the media, the afghan taliban, quite active on social media, the afghan taliban are also more so and pakistani taliban are far more dangerous and lethal. they moved closer and today if you ask and many experts -- you would not be able to experience the dynamics without explaining the dynamics of the pakistani taliban. that is the type of merger and proximity. that brings me to iraq. the belief that the media is on youtube and increasing pakistani taliban and from syria they moved into iraq. end in mozilla and parts of iran. and the pakistani taliban are interesting, and the cash to identity and from different ethnic groups in pakistan, and in a very good fashion.
the pakistani taliban unlike the iran taliban, a few more words about that taliban. the iran taliban coordinated with the likes that never merged. there were some good studies it came out in recent years -- they had used the afghan taliban for their purposes, their financial needs and use al qaeda but in case of pakistani taliban, there was more of a merger that had taken place. the nature of the group, and the media, the afghan taliban, quite active on social media, the afghan taliban are also...
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the pakistan taliban and the afghan taliban, there's a difference there. so we get back into definitions of who has responsibility for whom but i just want to make sure that's clear on the record. we can go into a lot more detail. >> i think that you just pointed out some of difficulty making categorical statements that we don't negotiate with statements when at least for some period the haqqanis were the ones who had him. let me ask about one other thing and that is the five detainees that were released. you said that there's always some risk associated with releasing someone from guantanamo but you also said they have not been implicated in any attacks on the united states. i have some unclassified summary of evidence before the combatant status review tribunals. for example, for mr. faust sal, it said the detainee engaged in hostilities against the united states or its coalition partners, maybe there is a difference between us and our partners for mr. was i.q., said the detainee participated in military operations against the coalition. at some point th
the pakistan taliban and the afghan taliban, there's a difference there. so we get back into definitions of who has responsibility for whom but i just want to make sure that's clear on the record. we can go into a lot more detail. >> i think that you just pointed out some of difficulty making categorical statements that we don't negotiate with statements when at least for some period the haqqanis were the ones who had him. let me ask about one other thing and that is the five detainees...
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do you see the possibility of isolating pakistani taliban from other taliban? >> thank you very much. you are absolutely right. in case of the taliban or afghanistan's political situation we have a crisis there but the crisis is different from what we had talked about and disrupting the whole election process. there is a lot about the resilience of the people and some of the very good things that happened benefiting from the u.s. effort. major mistakes like supporting warlords and so many others on the part of united states frankly but at the same time there's a new middle class that's going up in afghanistan. that has a new stake in afghanistan's future. i think we owe it to the international community and especially that states which funded it by and large however the case for instance there are 30,000 reporting stations. elections were not conducted in several because taliban did not allow that to happen. there are pictures of them and long white beards in caps with bandages on their fingers because all those who voted, their fingers were cut. you have to se
do you see the possibility of isolating pakistani taliban from other taliban? >> thank you very much. you are absolutely right. in case of the taliban or afghanistan's political situation we have a crisis there but the crisis is different from what we had talked about and disrupting the whole election process. there is a lot about the resilience of the people and some of the very good things that happened benefiting from the u.s. effort. major mistakes like supporting warlords and so many...
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areas are dominated by the taliban. they have hideouts and have to be taken out but they have done a good job over the last four nine months teresa or order. a few days ago of person was cost from the leader's house. only two people. how can you take the way something that killed two people and publicly motivated? and also depends on the interrogation. >> there is a question in the back over its third. after that i would like to come to the front over here and these of the last two services. we are running out of time so go ahead. >> it looks like really concerned about the information. and in pakistan, it seems as if the pakistani army -- so many different things. what does that mean for your development? concerned about these human response. >> thank you. the economy as a whole, let me take another question and we have both of you so go ahead. >> thank you for the very informative presentation. quick question. the appointment, special representative by china for afghanistan recently. >> special representative from chi
areas are dominated by the taliban. they have hideouts and have to be taken out but they have done a good job over the last four nine months teresa or order. a few days ago of person was cost from the leader's house. only two people. how can you take the way something that killed two people and publicly motivated? and also depends on the interrogation. >> there is a question in the back over its third. after that i would like to come to the front over here and these of the last two...
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talkwise the taliban. mr. secretary, the taliban has stated there will be no peace with afghan government with the united states or any foreign presence as long as troops remain in afghanistan and prisoners are contained at guantanamo bay. they have repeated these statements time and time again and proven they do not desire peace in the united states or its allies. with this known, why did you, at that point, on meet the press, express hope, and we can all have hope, that the release of the sergeant would lead to some type of direct negotiations with the united states and do you today feel that is still a real possibility and maybe there is something you want to say in the classified setting you cannot say here today. but this to me, your statement, was received by many of the people that i represent in the third district of north carolina that maybe in this negotiation about the sergeant and maybe there was signals sent to you, sir, or to the administration that there might be an opportunity for direct negoti
talkwise the taliban. mr. secretary, the taliban has stated there will be no peace with afghan government with the united states or any foreign presence as long as troops remain in afghanistan and prisoners are contained at guantanamo bay. they have repeated these statements time and time again and proven they do not desire peace in the united states or its allies. with this known, why did you, at that point, on meet the press, express hope, and we can all have hope, that the release of the...
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do you see a possibility of isolating pakistani talibans from the other talibans? >> thank you very much. you're absolutely right. in case of afghan taliban, or afghanistan's political situation, which we have a crisis there and the crisis different from what we thought that maybe the taliban can conduct military attacking and disrupt the election process. i think that tells us a lot about the relil yens of the afghan people and some of the very good things that have happened based, benefiting from the u.s. effort, they have a major mistakes, as well. like supporting warlords and so many others and i think blende s -- blunders on the part of the united states and the middle class going up in afghanistan. and that has a new stake in afghanistan's future and i think they owe it to international community and especially united states which funded the bill by and large. however, in the case for instance i'll tell you of 13,000 polling stations. elections were not conducted in 700 to 800 polling stations because taliban did not allow that happen. if you google, there's
do you see a possibility of isolating pakistani talibans from the other talibans? >> thank you very much. you're absolutely right. in case of afghan taliban, or afghanistan's political situation, which we have a crisis there and the crisis different from what we thought that maybe the taliban can conduct military attacking and disrupt the election process. i think that tells us a lot about the relil yens of the afghan people and some of the very good things that have happened based,...
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release of those five taliban. even if at a minimum this guy was aspireed by the release of those five, and i believe the taliban was probably hined this attack we need to rethink the release of those individuals and put them back in guantanamo. >> appreciate it this morning. voters turnout for primaries in four states. it was a night for the incumbents in kansas. three term republican senator pat roberts holding off tea party backed challenger martin wolf. sam brown back beats senator win. he will face paul davis in the fall. republican congressman pk becoming the third incumbent to fall this election cycle losing his primary to david trott. >> they hired becky hammond, the first paid female coach in the nba. she played in the wnba but is set to retire at the end of the season. >>> stormy weather to tell you about in the plains. >> maria molina is standing by with the latest on that. >> good morning heather and ainsley. we had areas of rain through parts of dakota and nebraska. you can see how heavy it is coming d
release of those five taliban. even if at a minimum this guy was aspireed by the release of those five, and i believe the taliban was probably hined this attack we need to rethink the release of those individuals and put them back in guantanamo. >> appreciate it this morning. voters turnout for primaries in four states. it was a night for the incumbents in kansas. three term republican senator pat roberts holding off tea party backed challenger martin wolf. sam brown back beats senator...
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with sympathy to the taliban. this is going to be part of the investigation. there have been so-called green on blue attacks in the past, which were not connected to the taliban but personal grievances, et cetera. that will be something that's happened but it's still an open question at this point. >> what about general green? do we know about him? >> military man, 34-year veteran and married to a colonel. he was essential to the deputy commander of the combined security transition command responsible for transitioning security control in afghanistan to the afghans and this academy where this took place central to that plan. this is where the senior officers are trained, not just by afghans but by americans, pretty fish and co british, that shows the challenges going forward. to be fair, these kinds of green on blue attacks dropped significantly in the last couple years but this one shows that that threat certainly mitigated but not eliminated. >> yeah, jim sciutto, appreciate the update. >>> there are some 30,000
with sympathy to the taliban. this is going to be part of the investigation. there have been so-called green on blue attacks in the past, which were not connected to the taliban but personal grievances, et cetera. that will be something that's happened but it's still an open question at this point. >> what about general green? do we know about him? >> military man, 34-year veteran and married to a colonel. he was essential to the deputy commander of the combined security transition...
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yes, members of the taliban. it may lead to members which are al qaeda affiliated or associated with al qaeda. but i'm not here to judge which group of the taliban. but there is no doubt that this taliban infiltration into that academy. >> as you know, there are still about 30,000 troops in afghanistan, going down to about 10,000 by the end of the year. what can be done to prevent these kind of attacks? >> there have been tens of thousands of troops in international troops in afghanistan. and one or two, three tragic event as such. so it is not a common trend throughout. but nevertheless, the scope of the incident and tragic result is such that everybody has to be more vigilant, more cautious, but to get us very friendly atmosphere between the afghan national forces and trainers in their partners throughout the country and in local afghanistan and there is a spirit of partnership in working together. but unfortunately, from time to time, such tragic event has taken place and this one was a really tragic event. an
yes, members of the taliban. it may lead to members which are al qaeda affiliated or associated with al qaeda. but i'm not here to judge which group of the taliban. but there is no doubt that this taliban infiltration into that academy. >> as you know, there are still about 30,000 troops in afghanistan, going down to about 10,000 by the end of the year. what can be done to prevent these kind of attacks? >> there have been tens of thousands of troops in international troops in...
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the book is called "the taliban revival." i think it must have obviously been printed in error because i'm pretty sure we took care of these guys. i'm pretty sure we went to afghanistan. so they're actually done now. they're actually gone. >> we thought so. that was what we thought should have happened, but that's not the story. we thought that after the 9/11 tragedy and the way our forces went in that we would go and just through bombing and just through military kinetic action, which was important, but there was more space that they had gained. they had more power, and they had more ideas that we never thought would be there. >> jon: but we also... you know, we spent an awful lot of time in a sort of hearts and minds, nation-building mode, as well. i mean, in afghanistan, in iraq, ten years, 12 years, 14 years, billions of dollars. has that been for nought? >> no. that was a very important contribution, but in some cases we thought we'd be able to at times micromanage. we also thought, and when i say "we," the international
the book is called "the taliban revival." i think it must have obviously been printed in error because i'm pretty sure we took care of these guys. i'm pretty sure we went to afghanistan. so they're actually done now. they're actually gone. >> we thought so. that was what we thought should have happened, but that's not the story. we thought that after the 9/11 tragedy and the way our forces went in that we would go and just through bombing and just through military kinetic...
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one point about convergence of the afghan taliban and the pakistani taliban. i see that convergence happening. there is pushed from the side. on the afghan taliban also. we will see some action. lately, this military unit goes on the side of the taliban. the seniormost general since the vietnam war died in action if i am correct. that was recently in national defense in kabul. these are the signs that the taliban is not going anywhere. on the pakistani side, i was more hopeful. the way they have expanded their network in the province in karachi, there's no signs of any effective cord needed action, -- coordinated action. the rise of the pakistani taliban may be under a different name. i think that is not possible, it is highly likely. at some stage, the convergence of interests and coming together some of the militant sides, i hope to be proved wrong about the title of my book. that is -- the future of the political crisis will be a major factor in deciding what is going to happen on the side of the afghan taliban. >> we have a question in the second row. if y
one point about convergence of the afghan taliban and the pakistani taliban. i see that convergence happening. there is pushed from the side. on the afghan taliban also. we will see some action. lately, this military unit goes on the side of the taliban. the seniormost general since the vietnam war died in action if i am correct. that was recently in national defense in kabul. these are the signs that the taliban is not going anywhere. on the pakistani side, i was more hopeful. the way they...
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taliban. and i think personally i believe they're setting the groundwork for an ultimate taliban re-taking of afghanistan and make it look like a negotiated solution rather than a coup, which is what it would be like. i must say, i respectfully disagree with your first guest who has tremendous expertise there. but i think this is highly strategically significant in terms of the timing. the tal lan wantaliban wants to make it look like they're chasing us out of afghanistan. we've already said we're leaving. we won't designate them as terrorist organizations. even their allies who we do classify as terrorist organizations we won't seize their funds which is the whole reason for designating them in the first place. it looks like we really don't want to take them on. they want to make it look like they're chasing us out of afghanistan. so i think the longer this goes on the more of these kinds of attacks we'll see. in fact this is not an unusual attack. we had about three dozen of these two years
taliban. and i think personally i believe they're setting the groundwork for an ultimate taliban re-taking of afghanistan and make it look like a negotiated solution rather than a coup, which is what it would be like. i must say, i respectfully disagree with your first guest who has tremendous expertise there. but i think this is highly strategically significant in terms of the timing. the tal lan wantaliban wants to make it look like they're chasing us out of afghanistan. we've already said...
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experts say the taliban will get a propaganda bounce. >> i think the taliban will certainly season this, whether this was a taliban operation or not. >> reporter: the pentagon isn't commenting on the possibility of taliban involvement, saying the afghan military and international forces are in the early stages of the investigation. pentagon officials went out of their way to say the incident would not change the relationship between u.s. and afghan forces. >> i've seen no indication that there's a degradation of trust between coalition members and their afghan counterparts. >> reporter: seth jones has advised u.s. forces in afghanistan. he says the vetting of afghan troops to make sure terrorists don't infiltrate the ranks has improved in recent years. it had, to he says, after the 2012 spike in attacks by afghan soldiers on coalition forces. >> part of what's taking place is we are transitioning to afghan security. and for us to train them effectively, we are much closer contact. our troops are in much closer contact with afghan troops on an ongoing basis. >> reporter: those attacks, o
experts say the taliban will get a propaganda bounce. >> i think the taliban will certainly season this, whether this was a taliban operation or not. >> reporter: the pentagon isn't commenting on the possibility of taliban involvement, saying the afghan military and international forces are in the early stages of the investigation. pentagon officials went out of their way to say the incident would not change the relationship between u.s. and afghan forces. >> i've seen no...
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pakistani taliban. something has to be done about the analytic cold capability of the pakistani government. >> but the absence of the capture or killing of any of these big leaders still remains a very open question. nassari. e to dr. no practices a unique learning experience to hear these three it distinguished experts talking about that area which has been affecting us all this time. -- i am a pakistan american league. the comments about the army and the area of disconnect. thently, in pakistan, entire higher echelon of the army, i found them converging with total consensus. they were really speaking with one voice. sometimes, -- that is because of the politicians statements and other things that irritate them. other than that, they're working together in an army unit. they were working closely with this administration. he might be -- which we don't. reward to terrorism. the enemy is faceless. even the superpowers have generally failed in this territory. given a timeline or a timeframe, our closure of
pakistani taliban. something has to be done about the analytic cold capability of the pakistani government. >> but the absence of the capture or killing of any of these big leaders still remains a very open question. nassari. e to dr. no practices a unique learning experience to hear these three it distinguished experts talking about that area which has been affecting us all this time. -- i am a pakistan american league. the comments about the army and the area of disconnect. thently, in...
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many of bergdahl's fellow soldiers claimed he deserted his post before the taliban captured him in 2009. bergdahl you'll recall was freed in may for a prison swap for high-ranking taliban members. >>> the u.s. is digging into sub prime car lending beginning with
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>> that's what the taliban want. they want to instill this fear that something like this will happen. well, i have to say this is one of or the beginning of what was going on in 2012. i predicted in 2012 this would continue to expand if we didn't take certain actions. general joe dunford has taken those actions a commander who got there in 2013. he's done everything he can to secure the training efforts so there's less of a chance of this. he's done things in a classified level we can't get into here. he's taken the cadre of the afghans who we're trying to train, sending them to a third country, training them, sending them back in. that lowers the risk on both sides of something going wrong. frankly, we have to do everything we can now. if a mission is to help the central government become effective to sustain itself past december of this year, we have to actually throw in and try to make sure that this effort works. joe dunford is doing that. i know that this did hurt the morale, but i know joe and everybody there i
>> that's what the taliban want. they want to instill this fear that something like this will happen. well, i have to say this is one of or the beginning of what was going on in 2012. i predicted in 2012 this would continue to expand if we didn't take certain actions. general joe dunford has taken those actions a commander who got there in 2013. he's done everything he can to secure the training efforts so there's less of a chance of this. he's done things in a classified level we can't...
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rise of the taliban and al-qaeda in afghanistan. i wonder if i could ask your expertise on this. when you look at isis, it has many things al-qaeda never had. more territory. it is holding ground like a military. it has already declared a kole fit, which was long just a goal of al-qaeda. in your view, is isis more dangerous than al-qaeda? >> yes, i think it's much more dangerous. it is combining two of the, two important elements from the taliban and from al-qaeda. from the taliban, from al-qaeda, they've learned the use of terror. and striking fear and beheadings and committing mass genocide of the fighters they're opposing and from the taliban, they've learned the war tactics of the talib taliban. the americans are saying -- in the '90s, that the american forces were not. they had seen the way the taliban swept up and down the country, conquering afghanistan in just two years. and never getting out of their pick up truck, never fighting on foot. in fact, using exactly the same tactics that we've seen isis use over the last six mon
rise of the taliban and al-qaeda in afghanistan. i wonder if i could ask your expertise on this. when you look at isis, it has many things al-qaeda never had. more territory. it is holding ground like a military. it has already declared a kole fit, which was long just a goal of al-qaeda. in your view, is isis more dangerous than al-qaeda? >> yes, i think it's much more dangerous. it is combining two of the, two important elements from the taliban and from al-qaeda. from the taliban, from...
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so that you don't get these taliban inside your ranks or if there is a taliban sympathizer you are watching the after goons and monitoring. this takes the afghan chain of command to do this effective live. we have 53 in 2012. 1 last year. but nonetheless. as ed pointed out in the intro, these things are devastating when they take place because they are demoralizing for sure. >> this is a base east of kabul. it's not bagram north of kabul. but you say this is an idea conceived by the british? what was the thinking there? >> this was an attempt to institutionalize the future development of the afghan officer corp. it's a great idea conceptualized based on sandhurst military academy which takes cadets in a one-year and gets them to the level of platoon leader. the british put this model in place. they oversight. the instruction is all provided about it afghans. that is key to success here. so this is in its first 6 months of existence. and it is a brilliant idea and something that bodes well for the afghans. bill: 200 positions and 10,000 afghan men. >> over 10,000 people and they screened the
so that you don't get these taliban inside your ranks or if there is a taliban sympathizer you are watching the after goons and monitoring. this takes the afghan chain of command to do this effective live. we have 53 in 2012. 1 last year. but nonetheless. as ed pointed out in the intro, these things are devastating when they take place because they are demoralizing for sure. >> this is a base east of kabul. it's not bagram north of kabul. but you say this is an idea conceived by the...
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he was freed in may after a controversial swap for five taliban prisoners. nick flaensia joins us live from outside the army base in texas. what can we expect today? >> reporter: the missing element in the army's investigation into bowe bergdahl's disappearance is hearing bowe bergdahl's side of the story. carol, when i was in hailey, idaho, earlier this year that's what his friends and family kept saying, we haven't heard bergdahl's side of the story. after today, all of that will change. the interview which his attorneys are quick to point out is not an interrogation is expected to start under way at 9:00 a.m. eastern. it will focus why he left, if if he intended to leave and never come back. we know the person asking the questions was appointed by the pentagon, his name is major gen dal dahl. i spoke to bowe bergdahl's attorney who released the first image we believe that we've seen of bowe bergdahl since that video, that chilling video we saw during his swap there between taliban and special forces, that picture, that recent picture seems to show an inte
he was freed in may after a controversial swap for five taliban prisoners. nick flaensia joins us live from outside the army base in texas. what can we expect today? >> reporter: the missing element in the army's investigation into bowe bergdahl's disappearance is hearing bowe bergdahl's side of the story. carol, when i was in hailey, idaho, earlier this year that's what his friends and family kept saying, we haven't heard bergdahl's side of the story. after today, all of that will...
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we turn the taliban into suicide bombers which they weren't before the united states need to. back off a little bit and just start letting the world or those particular countries take care of them. is that clear that public opinion on on afghanistan and iraq has really shifted and what kind of impact do you think this latest incident might have and does that further cement what those people are saying you know absolutely i mean you look at what these people are saying both in terms of iraq and afghanistan particularly in terms of afghanistan what were the major objectives of the u.s. for going into afghanistan in two thousand and one one was to overthrow the taliban government in two was to remove al qaida and to deny the sanctuary city why they're there they were i mean literally they did in the taliban doesn't run the country al qaeda doesn't have a sanctuary so in that sense you could argue why are we still there why are we still been fighting you know for thirteen years given that these immediate objectives were really achieved and of course there are so many problems in t
we turn the taliban into suicide bombers which they weren't before the united states need to. back off a little bit and just start letting the world or those particular countries take care of them. is that clear that public opinion on on afghanistan and iraq has really shifted and what kind of impact do you think this latest incident might have and does that further cement what those people are saying you know absolutely i mean you look at what these people are saying both in terms of iraq and...
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taliban? >> i think the big lesson was you cannot just walk away from afghanistan. this is a very dangerous part of the world. it seems to be a place where important things happen because not only was it a global changer in terms of the end of the cold war, you can say 25 years later it was the start of the global jihad. >> it is often repeated by the media and every analyst that comes to this table -- if you read your history, you know the afghans are so tough and independent and so tribal, that they will kick you out. look at what happened to the russians and before them and the united states. >> it is called the graveyard of history. a lot of countries have conquered afghanistan. alexander the great conquered it. the mongols. the british actually won the second anglo afghan war. that is why history is helpful. if somebody gives you these nice little slogans -- was that really right? >> so then, the dictator of pakistan get some credit -- a lot of credit with the help of american arms. they kicked the russians out. and then what happened to afghanistan? >> we lost
taliban? >> i think the big lesson was you cannot just walk away from afghanistan. this is a very dangerous part of the world. it seems to be a place where important things happen because not only was it a global changer in terms of the end of the cold war, you can say 25 years later it was the start of the global jihad. >> it is often repeated by the media and every analyst that comes to this table -- if you read your history, you know the afghans are so tough and independent and...
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it his own affinity for the taliban? we don't know. that's another subject of the investigation. >> what went over the general who lost his life in the attack? >> sir general green, a 34-year veteran was the deputy commander of the combined security transition command. this is a command whose job it was to help transition from coalition security control in afghanistan to afghan security control, as coalition forces including americans withdraw. so, you know, this presents a real problem going forward because it presents an open question, what does this say about the readiness of afghan forces to take on this task? to be fair, attacks like this have decreased remarkably since 2012, but general green gave his life, part of a military family. his wife was a retired military colonel, as well, and notification just going out to the family today. so sad moment for that family, no question, but of course, you have eight other americans injured, i'm told some seriously. >> yeah, for a lot of families tonight. appreciate the update. there are s
it his own affinity for the taliban? we don't know. that's another subject of the investigation. >> what went over the general who lost his life in the attack? >> sir general green, a 34-year veteran was the deputy commander of the combined security transition command. this is a command whose job it was to help transition from coalition security control in afghanistan to afghan security control, as coalition forces including americans withdraw. so, you know, this presents a real...
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afghan taliban or pakistani forces helped them. in their operations against the northern alliance that there was this control, this manipulation and some were still sympathetic to pakistan. whenever they needed the old guards help to go after pakistani taliban they didn't help them much so they responded by not coming out of the pakistani taliban. the other question and it may take a minute but that's a very profound idea. i'm not making the suggestion that from outside we use sufi-ism as a tool to tackle anything else. sufis after all there are sunni shoe -- sunni cities in shia sufis. [inaudible] they all had some common ideals which were religious which was complete nonviolence, which was always honoring them and giving them hope which was also nonenforcement. you would be surprised the biggest sufi -- is in india. you would be amazed there are times more hindus and muslims there. sufis never force anyone to convert. that's why say the idea and the number of people who still -- i don't want more political support for the sufi bu
afghan taliban or pakistani forces helped them. in their operations against the northern alliance that there was this control, this manipulation and some were still sympathetic to pakistan. whenever they needed the old guards help to go after pakistani taliban they didn't help them much so they responded by not coming out of the pakistani taliban. the other question and it may take a minute but that's a very profound idea. i'm not making the suggestion that from outside we use sufi-ism as a...
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so you've got islamists on the march, the taliban really controlling the country side. >> and the taliban redoubles its efforts in afghanistan, resulting in the death of general green who is last in the long line of those who serve in the military service back to the civil war. a new poll is showing that the president is sinking deeper than ever before. the question that was asked was in general, do you approve or disapprove or not sure of the job barak obama is doing as president? and 54% of the american people disapprove. 40% approve. and 6% are not sure. >> that's a new low for the president. then this is the one that's really going to catch your eye in this "wall street journal" poll. do you think things in this nation are generally headed in the right direction or the wrong track? 71% of you say we are headed on the wrong track. only 22%, one in five, think we are headed in the right direction. >> and this terrible tragedy yesterday. let us know what you think. also this morning, this is happening, sergeant beau bergdahl, the guy who was swapped for five terrorists, he's formally goi
so you've got islamists on the march, the taliban really controlling the country side. >> and the taliban redoubles its efforts in afghanistan, resulting in the death of general green who is last in the long line of those who serve in the military service back to the civil war. a new poll is showing that the president is sinking deeper than ever before. the question that was asked was in general, do you approve or disapprove or not sure of the job barak obama is doing as president? and...
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to help find bin laden when they got wind of that the taliban banned the polio vaccine. where e that is just another cia plot and now they're targeting and killing doctors who tried to administer vaccines in pakistan as a result according to pakistani officials there are now two hundred and fifty thousand children without their vaccines just to avoid a cia plot pakistan saw a sixty percent increase in polio cases last year the country was on its way to eradicating polio completely until the taliban learned how the cia it used to have but i just believe that t.v. campaign to do their dirty work officials have no doubt of the direct relationship the taliban does a lot of terrible things but the only reason they're blocking vaccines in pakistan right now is because people in the white house just couldn't keep themselves from bragging about every detail of their getting bin ladin hollywood story as a result they are directly responsible for this new health crisis and for all those kids who are now being paralyzed by a disease they should have never known.
to help find bin laden when they got wind of that the taliban banned the polio vaccine. where e that is just another cia plot and now they're targeting and killing doctors who tried to administer vaccines in pakistan as a result according to pakistani officials there are now two hundred and fifty thousand children without their vaccines just to avoid a cia plot pakistan saw a sixty percent increase in polio cases last year the country was on its way to eradicating polio completely until the...
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i went to a taliban interview i was invited to and was kidnapped. i felt real guilt about what they had gone through. i'm very surprised he hasn't talked to them and very puzzled by it. >> and the reintegration process they've talked about, getting him back to a desk job. at the same time though, you have after guy who his former platoon mates are still very angry. they're also part of this investigation. how long and how contentious do you expect this investigation to be? >> i think that the fact that the military is making it so public shows the amount of anger that exists in his unit and in elements of the military about, you know, what happened, did he desert his post or not. so the military is trying to have a very public investigation. this could be a controversy for a very long time. boug be bowe bergdahl should answer these questions. there may be a chance he was tricked by afghan forces to leave the base, something like that. but he should answer these questions. it's a major issue. i think it's a major issue for the military and the admini
i went to a taliban interview i was invited to and was kidnapped. i felt real guilt about what they had gone through. i'm very surprised he hasn't talked to them and very puzzled by it. >> and the reintegration process they've talked about, getting him back to a desk job. at the same time though, you have after guy who his former platoon mates are still very angry. they're also part of this investigation. how long and how contentious do you expect this investigation to be? >> i...
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marines were found to be urinating on dead taliban. that created a sequence of events in conjunction with the inadvertent and sad burning of the holy koran at bagram which began the process of the insider attacks, which really stressed the relationship between the west in general, nato, and the afghan government and president afghan government and president karzai, but also stressed the relationship within the coalition itself as increasingly these insider attacks were eroding the consensus of the coalition to remain committed to afghanistan. and then that was followed by the mass killing, you'll recall, of the 16 afghans in kandahar, and each of these, whether it was a challenge or a crisis, permitted me to take the measure of the man, and i found president karzai to be a worthy partner in most of these. we didn't agree necessarily on many of them and often the outcome wasn't what either of us desired, but it was -- these were moments where we had the opportunity to work very closely. so against the backdrop of these many factors, i t
marines were found to be urinating on dead taliban. that created a sequence of events in conjunction with the inadvertent and sad burning of the holy koran at bagram which began the process of the insider attacks, which really stressed the relationship between the west in general, nato, and the afghan government and president afghan government and president karzai, but also stressed the relationship within the coalition itself as increasingly these insider attacks were eroding the consensus of...
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the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack. we'll cross to our correspondent jennifer glass, joining us from kabul. describe this attack for us. >> well, it was a huge car bomb. eye witnesses say the explosion was large. 35 civilians have been injured. four killed. among them two children, one woman and one man killed in the attack. n.a.t.o. says it was a joint convoy with afghan security forces and the car bomb managed to stop the convoy. n.a.t.o. says there were no n.a.t.o. casualties. as you said, the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack. as often happens, the tart may have been a military convoy. civilians are the victims. the united nations says for the fires six months civilian casualties are up 24%. it seems that this is the taliban living up to its pledge to step up attacks as that withdrawal of foreign troops at the year end grows closer. >> that's right. despite the announcement that foreign interests will withdraw this year, and fewer troops really out on the roads at all nato, the taliban continue to target
the taliban claimed responsibility for the attack. we'll cross to our correspondent jennifer glass, joining us from kabul. describe this attack for us. >> well, it was a huge car bomb. eye witnesses say the explosion was large. 35 civilians have been injured. four killed. among them two children, one woman and one man killed in the attack. n.a.t.o. says it was a joint convoy with afghan security forces and the car bomb managed to stop the convoy. n.a.t.o. says there were no n.a.t.o....
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he was not a member of the taliban. he wasn't an insurgent. working together to get the afghan security forces to where they need to be so they can take on the enormous job that lies ahead. so he was -- from we understand, this is a man who has been through the stringent procedures. there was obviously a space of attacks back in 2012 in which dozens of coalition forces were killed on these green on blue attacks, insider attacks, and that's why they cracked down with the vetting process. this soldier was vetted. so, obviously, a real blow, a real concern, too, for the remaining forces on the ground. the commander general dunford ordered all the troops back to their bases to make sure there aren't any attacks or disgruntled soldiers. the taliban while they have said he is not one of theirs they have described this soldier as a hero. for the family of major greene, they are heartbroken. >> they believed in what he was doing over there and was really proud to serve. the family has asked that i pass along that they believe that the army, as well as
he was not a member of the taliban. he wasn't an insurgent. working together to get the afghan security forces to where they need to be so they can take on the enormous job that lies ahead. so he was -- from we understand, this is a man who has been through the stringent procedures. there was obviously a space of attacks back in 2012 in which dozens of coalition forces were killed on these green on blue attacks, insider attacks, and that's why they cracked down with the vetting process. this...
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we know what they taliban mean. what it means in terms of schooling and women and in a sense the most extremist kinds of forces coming back into power. so, this is, i think, something that we have to do, even though it's painful and even though from time to time we pay this kind of a terrible price. >> the taliban and others who would do us harm have found other vacuums to fill. what there is about what we're doing now in afghanistan to suggest to you the moment we're gone they won't be back no matter what we have done? >> well, i do worry about them becoming more active we're see it in certain places in afghanistan. obviously the lesson here is in the end, ifafghan anies are prepared, they should be able to deal with the taliban and our training should but them in a better position and our arming and equipment put them in a better position. we see signs the afghan military are becoming more and mere effective. we see less signs the afghan police are as effective so the challenge is, what can be done to bring the ov
we know what they taliban mean. what it means in terms of schooling and women and in a sense the most extremist kinds of forces coming back into power. so, this is, i think, something that we have to do, even though it's painful and even though from time to time we pay this kind of a terrible price. >> the taliban and others who would do us harm have found other vacuums to fill. what there is about what we're doing now in afghanistan to suggest to you the moment we're gone they won't be...
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you have a country that was moved by the taliban in the late -- ruled by the taliban in the late 1990s, not allowing women to go to school, to work, to even leave their homes in some cases. and you had people that were -- i met with many afghan women who were very grateful that the u.s. came in, toppled the taliban. thinks have not been difficult. it's been -- it has been difficult. i think you can talk to plenty of afghans who are appreciative to the u.s. helping to overturn the taliban and allow their country to engage a on a democratic process. look at the vote april 5th. 60% of the afghans turned out to vote despite the taliban threats they don't want to be ruled by idealings on. you have laid out your view i think i have heard a different view, at least from the afghans that i have met and that i have spoken to. >> in new jersey, this is pat. hello. >> caller: hello. thank you. i would like to know why all of the terrorist threats we are getting. are people coming into this country even after 9-11? we have security alerts. there are people who are allowed to enter america after we
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freed five senior taliban leaders from gitmo. sergeant bergdahl will be questioned with his lawyer present. let's talk about with judge andrew napolitano. a lot of chatter about how this will play out and why he was rehabilitated, returned to dutyy say they kept him around, kept him on active duty because it gives them a better chance of pursuing a court-martial against him but there are also talks of a deal possibly letting him walk away, less than honorably discharged but not facing a court-martial. >> we don't know what army investigators know and if they're doing this according to procedure and most of these investigators are very professional, very seasoned people, they will have gathered all their evidence first and speak with him last so they can compare and contrast evidence that they already evaluated with his version of things. so they probably know already whether or not they plan to build a case against him or they want him to go away. they have a good idea of whether he's mentally sound enough to have committed these
freed five senior taliban leaders from gitmo. sergeant bergdahl will be questioned with his lawyer present. let's talk about with judge andrew napolitano. a lot of chatter about how this will play out and why he was rehabilitated, returned to dutyy say they kept him around, kept him on active duty because it gives them a better chance of pursuing a court-martial against him but there are also talks of a deal possibly letting him walk away, less than honorably discharged but not facing a...
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for most of the year, the taliban had not been doing well. the elections they had a not manage to disrupt. there was a little bit of violence, but not major violence. a little bit before the first-round. they did not kill the candidates for anything, which is quite remarkable. even more important in afghanistan, because there is an actual law that if a candidate dies before assuming office, you have to restart the entire process. that law was put in place because they do voter lists, and they were worried -- let's say you have 40 candidates and they were worried that number 41 would try to kill number 40 two move up the list. if you had to set up this law, which is good intention, but it does create risks. you have the taliban making serious pushes, wide parts of the south, the north, eastern and central afghanistan, and afghan security forces are finding themselves very hard-pressed. they are not crumbling. they are decent and they have gotten better. but they need western help. they cannot function on their own yet. even if they could, they
for most of the year, the taliban had not been doing well. the elections they had a not manage to disrupt. there was a little bit of violence, but not major violence. a little bit before the first-round. they did not kill the candidates for anything, which is quite remarkable. even more important in afghanistan, because there is an actual law that if a candidate dies before assuming office, you have to restart the entire process. that law was put in place because they do voter lists, and they...
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they're notd if listen to, then they will do what they have done against the russians and taliban, they will do the same thing against a fraudulent government. rumhe decision to withdraw observing the election audit process means many afghans will never accept it. it makes major street protests far more likely. >> the breakdown in law and order would only encourage the taliban and make international headlines more quickly. failure to deal with the fraud here could have catastrophic consequences. >> for more on the impact, he served as the ambassador to canada and france and now at the new america foundation. what do you want to say to your countrymen in afghanistan? >> what i would want to tell them is we have reached the moment point, a critical or afghanistan. i think the demand by at villa - fair to some.m the u.s. wants to continue with the process regardless of who is participating and who is not. i think the u.n. has responsibility to make sure the two sides return to the table. to finish the recount and validation. this is what started with of the love he cut he had been telling
they're notd if listen to, then they will do what they have done against the russians and taliban, they will do the same thing against a fraudulent government. rumhe decision to withdraw observing the election audit process means many afghans will never accept it. it makes major street protests far more likely. >> the breakdown in law and order would only encourage the taliban and make international headlines more quickly. failure to deal with the fraud here could have catastrophic...
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have ten thousand troops proximately in december going into two thousand and fifteen they were the taliban want to destroy the integrity of our relationship with the afghan military thereby further undermining the government which by the way the taliban wants to basically up and as soon as possible after departure this is one step closer to that this is asking for the general is meant to drive a wedge between the afghan forces that we've supported and trained and the afghan people for which we're trying to support and by the way you know you we want to quench it with him but you knew of his work and he was a very competent general right after a loss for the this is this general was truly a great leader as well as a tough technically competent leader which is a rarity today our generals. trust me i know a number of them and this guy was good he's a good guy all his neighbors loved him here in northern ireland local guy he was a local guy so i think this is a tragedy and multiple issues and frankly at this point in time because of the relationship issues this this is general's weight sort of
have ten thousand troops proximately in december going into two thousand and fifteen they were the taliban want to destroy the integrity of our relationship with the afghan military thereby further undermining the government which by the way the taliban wants to basically up and as soon as possible after departure this is one step closer to that this is asking for the general is meant to drive a wedge between the afghan forces that we've supported and trained and the afghan people for which...
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so taliban owed a lot to those who helped them in their operations. so there was this control, this manipulation and some were still sympathetic to pakistan, but that's wx91lso whenever pakistan needed iran taliban's help to go after pakistani taliban, they responded to that my book, they all had some common ideals which was complete nonviolence, which was always honoring the very poor in giving them hope, which was also nonenforcement. you'll be surprised you go to the biggest in south asia and it's made in india. you'll be amazed at times there are more hindus than muslims. i don't want more investment, but i think the tradition and their great mistakes provide a bridge to different sectors to come together. and not only tolerate each other, we often say if you tolerate others, that's the success of any society. i think all the teachings that i had an option to read i think is respect about human being as a human being. that's why in terms of ideals, i support that talk. but you're right. if anyone will try to choreograph it through political suppor
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the taliban gave up bergdahl in exchange for the u.s. turning over five taliban who were being held at guantanamo bay. >> he's very aware of his debt to president obama for saving his life. it was a matter of saving his life. >> reporter: bergdahl is still active duty, working an administrative job at ft. sam houston. his attorney says he's very eager to move on to the next stage of life. >> get a proper education, get a college education. he's -- that's a work in progress. >> reporter: this phase of the investigation is over, but it could still be a lengthy process before the military reaches any conclusions. karen travers, abc news, washington. >>> we want to give you some breaking news now and this comes to us from terrance, texas, where a fire is raging out of control here. this started out as a brush fire in the city of terrance, texas. quickly spread to a salvage yard. you see all these aband onned vehicles here. in the upper left of your screen there's some crews trying to get water on this fire to try to prevent it from spreading
the taliban gave up bergdahl in exchange for the u.s. turning over five taliban who were being held at guantanamo bay. >> he's very aware of his debt to president obama for saving his life. it was a matter of saving his life. >> reporter: bergdahl is still active duty, working an administrative job at ft. sam houston. his attorney says he's very eager to move on to the next stage of life. >> get a proper education, get a college education. he's -- that's a work in progress....