obama: you know? i just think that me as a stranger, coming into lives, i can move people with my words, but if i do not know them and they do not know me, it is sort of like what we heard from renee -- you have to get up close to people, you have to be willing to be close. you cannot ignore the people who are right in your orbit. and think you can affect bigger change. that is why when i came into the white house and i said i was mom and achieve, the statement i was making was i cannot help any other kid until i make sure that minor good. even, as first lady my very first response ability was to make sure that my girls were sane, because i actually have control over my kids, they are my responsibility. what i feed to them, i have the opportunity to feed this stuff to them every day, i am the role model. so i have to do that right before i can tackle the bigger issue. that is my responsibility to get that right before i go out and try to change things. shonda: and be a role model for anybody else. mrs

obama. for the last three years, she has been serving the country. before you are in the white lady, you were a successful attorney as well as dean, administrator, primary breadwinner of your household. shonda: she is brilliant, powerful, impactful, successful. what was it like to make that sacrifice to give that up? mrs. obama:dean, administrator,y breadwinner of your household. that is a good question. actually, that is when i am taking the time this year to do, is reflect on that. the truth is for the last eight years, and i will say 10 -- because it is not just the two terms, but the two years of running required in this country to become president. it has been a decade of being shot out of a cannon. there has really been literally no time to think about feelings. you think of those last eight years, you are trying to develop your initiatives, or at least i am maybe. you were not doing that the last eight years, everybody here. i was trying to develop my initiatives, i was trying to make

said about obama and the obama administration over the last ten months in office. >> to be honest, i inherited a mess. it's a mess, at home and abroad, a mess. in the last eight years the past administration has put open more new debt than nearly all of the other presidents combined. there the iran deal made by the previous administration is one of the worst deals i have ever witnessed. >> i have ended the obama administration's war on call. and we have gotten rid of a lot of really bat pieces that were signed by president obama. believe me obamacare is collapsing. it's dead, gone. there they voted because they believe the lies of president obama. >> i don't draw red lines. president obama drew a red line. ways the one that made it look a little better tan it was. but that could have been done a lot sooner. >> they asked me, what about race relations in the united states? i have to say, they were pretty bad under barack obama. >> you look at what happened with bush, obama, he didn't even want to talk about it. but i talk. it's about time. somebody has to do it. i would like to denuke

you look what happened with bush, you look what happened with obama -- obama, he didn't even want to talk about it. i talk. it's about time somebody has to do it. i would like to denuke the world. i know that president obama said global warming is the biggest threat. i totally disagree. barack obama never said it took place because of radical islamic terrorists. he never said that. he doesn't have to say. if you look at president obama and other presidents, most of them didn't make calls. a lot of them didn't make calls. i like to call when it's appropriate. there is another absolutely terrible deal from the previous administration. see how nice i am. i say, the previous administration as opposed to the obama administration. >> anyway, we're back with our guests, shannon, dana, and jason. this revenge talk against obama, did it start with that humiliating rift that the former president did on him at the press dinner a couple years ago when he made fun of him for being the moderator of that television show, "apprentice." >> as i recall, trump was sitting with the "washington post" at

it's about obama to the degree you feel like he's still in competition about president obama. he brags that the stock market is up 20% since he's been president. it was up 150% over obama's eight years. he knows that, i think his behavior suggests he's in competition with president obama. the part of this that's about president trump. and regardless of president obama. is that our presidents from george washington to president obama, you have to have a healthy ego to run for president, to say, i can be the leader of the free world. most presidents come to the job with an agenda, and trying to accomplish something for their legacy. for history. the ethos of president trump so far, he's daily seeking the affirmation of himself. he's often saying behind the scenes, he can't accept the results of the election. or can't accept president obama's birth certificate or can't affirm what he said on the access hollywood tape. those things don't redowned to the image he wants to have. >> so much more to talk about. i only have so many hours in the day, and so many hours in this broadcast.

obama is still doing what he did back in may. he's literally shadowing president trump on overseas trips. >> i don't know in you remember the episode of the simpsons where they declared jimmy carter? the town declared jimmy carter as history's monster and put up a statue to him. they should take that statue down and replace it with barack obama. when you look at all the problems we have throughout the world and look back at the last 8 years, president obama either did nothing to fiction any of it or did stuff to make it 10 times worse and left it all on president trump's plate. the idea he's going to shadow him around the globe and have all these meetings where he has literally made things so that he's costing people's lives. who knows how many it will wind up being. lou: he's ignoring the hell out of me. >> for 8 years he was disengaged. now he wants to work? lou: he said his greatest fault was, he was ask what his greatest fault was, an said lazy. it turns out he worked very hard to up end just about everything in the national

up next an obama appointee tries to subvert the president's authority. lou: in our online poll last week we asked who is the bigger turkey, mitch mcconnell or paul ryan. we have a definitive answer. mitch mcconnell the runaway winner. 83 to 17 percent. byron, extraordinary reporting. as we wrap up on the deep state and leftist shenanigans and the gop establishment's collusion with them. where do you think the collusion investigation goes? >> the one to wrap up the quickest will be the house intelligence committee. you will have two reports. they are divided by party. you will have a democratic report and a republican report. the senate investigation may take longer and ends up in a muddy, shapeless mess. don't know if that's going to be the case. but i'm sure some republicans would not be unhappy if that's the case. robert mueller, we don't know. he's the one with the power to charge people with crimes. lou: he's the most of deeply conflicted tea monday them all. let's turn to speaking of frustration, the consumer financial protection bureau, and she dec

obama: he couldn't hover long enough to take off. but cool customer that he is, he says he saw his shattered windshield and thought, "that's pretty good air-conditioning." [laughter] pres. obama: the cabin filled with black smoke as chuck hopped and skipped the helo across the ground to pick up enough speed for takeoff - like a jackrabbit, he said, bouncing across the riverbed. the instant he got airborne, another mortar ripped into the tail, the huey fishtailed violently, and a soldier was thrown out of the helicopter, hanging onto a skid as chuck flew them to safety. i couldn't make this up. [laughter] pres. obama: this is like a bad "rambo" movie. [laughter] right?bama: you're listening to this, you can't believe it. so the army's warrior ethos is based on a simple principle: a soldier never leaves his comrades behind. chuck kettles honored that creed - not with a single act of heroism, but over and over and over. and because of that heroism, 44 american soldiers made it out that day -- 44. we are honored today to be joined by som

agreed. >> obama still doesn't want this to be in his name. so he enlists his intelligence chief, james clapper, and his homeland security chief, jeh johnson, to put out a statement in their names, hoping that that will be perceived as less partisan than if the president had done so himself. >> narrator: but just agreeing on what would be said would be difficult. >> the statement that jim clapper and jeh johnson put out went through an arduous review process, including in the white house situation room, just trying to get the tone right, make sure the message was right. >> narrator: the vetted statement was just three paragraphs long. >> ...the russian government directed the recent compromises of emails from u.s. persons and institutions..." >> there were a few interesting things about that intelligence report. first, it gave us no details. second, it was incredibly late. and it took the intelligence community more than two months to be able to come up with a few sentences that essentially confirmed that story. >> narrator: also missing: any

obama: he's living outside auburn. and, yes, he is a fan of the auburn tigers, although i did a poll of the family and there are some crimson tide fans here. [laughter] pres. obama: so there's obviously some divisions. but bennie will tell you that he owes everything to the men he served with in vietnam, especially the five who gave their lives in that battle. every member of his unit was killed or wounded. every single one was recognized for their service. today, we're joined by some of the men who served with bennie, including major john bradford, the soldier that bennie shielded in that helicopter, and major wayne murray, the soldier bennie saved from being captured. and i'd ask them and all our vietnam veterans who are here today to please stand or raise your hand and to be recognized. [applause] pres. obama: and now, i'd ask that the citation be read. military aide: the president of the united states of america, authorized by act of congress, march 3, 1863, has awarded in the name of congress the medal of honor to

just as it did under president obama. mueller now in the -- 6th month of its investigation so now so-called alleged co-looks has been investigated by the special counsel and the fbi for three months short of two years. not a single piece of evidence found and what about the congressional investigations. at least five congressional committees are now investigating russian collusion with the trump campaign. they found nothing. and the senate intelligence committees appear to be extraordinarily disinterested in what russia may have actually done. what they have they actually done? it appears they've compromised the ns a and led the establishment republicans and democrats on an almost two-year wild goose chase making them the laughing stock of intelligence. the word that hardly seems right when used to describe our agencies and our congress. all of that leaving many unanswered questions which i'll tell you about coming up here. stay with us. there is a lot more straight it's easy to think that all money managers are pretty mu

president obama over the top campaign that president obama believes that he could not win you felt that he would not win. but the american tragedy is larger and will not end with trump. what do you mean?. >> so what you can say here that so there is this the ada in the country with the things that are not inscribing into a lot of reasons by the electorate so there is a long history with republicans walking right up to the line for the reason they didn't step over the line to believe debt was too far. they don't know what to far is at this point. in many ways we're being saved by his ineptness but it disguises saudi interests this could be. i'm not a dog. i can shout. he knows how to use the government to push whatever agenda ed they have is a terrible future. leader nafta do none of this no more. not for black people or brown people to be elected with sexual assault i can do whatever but the notion to be twice as good with that counter notion from trump. keith to be twice as bad we will suffer from the one for a while. >> so those that have questions one or the other of the microphones

obama's baby woman. while i don't agree with the hoopla over melania's decorations, i think they look nice, we can't act as though the media was not critical of michelle obama. >> laura: you are citing far right websites. i am talking about mainstream media publications and people on other cable news outlets who rarely come to the defense of melania trump. she is viciously maligned. let's go to monica. i don't see any mainstream media outlets maligning melania transform. >> there has been a huge double standard against conservative women and in favor of liberal women. the attackses on melania trump take it to a whole other level. that's because she is married to donald trump. he represents a threat to the elite ruling class and the existing order. he ran on smashing that existing order and that's when he was elected. melania trump is spectacular in every way and a dazzling representative of the united states. she did a beautiful display at the white house. what the trumps and everybody in the white house

for instance, obama's obama's s office of air and radiation was responsible for the regulatory scheme which threatened to push -- to punish coal families and ship middle-class jobs overseas. when administrator scott pruitt came to kentucky last month, he announced the official withdrawal of that rule. unlike the previous leadership of the e.p.a., administrator pruitt actually cared enough to come to my home state and hear directly from the men and women impacted by the agency's regulations. he is someone who will work with us to protect our environment and save kentucky families from harmful regulations. mr. wehrum will work with administrator pruitt to help continue this trend at the e.p.a. i look forward to the senate advancing his nomination. now on another matter, members of the senate are continuing to work hard to deliver much-needed tax reform for families and small businesses. yesterday senators, members of the administration, and tax reform advocates met here in the capitol to discuss a mutual vision for relief. they shared the goals of simplicity, fairness, and economic grow

become a constitutional conover proper leader of president trump appointed mulvan mulvaney to th, and obama left over, deep stater is now suing trump administration seeking to usurp the president's executive power and in effect overturn part of the government of the united states and takeover the consumer financial protect bureau, she is doing it with full support of democratic party leaders and obvious act w act we essence ofe republican establishment, we take that up with greg jarrett and chris ferrel in moments, also democrats under fire, congressman john conyers stepping down as ranking member of house judiciary committee amid allegations of sexual harassment. but congressman conyers has surprise support of house minority leader, nancy pelosi who defending congressman conyers as an icon. in pehl approximately' pelosi me law and to be judged by a lower standard than mere republicans or any other citizen not a leftist or a dem. and senator franken has apologized for allegedly groping women, but he is not resigning, he is instead vowing to learn from his mistakes. perhaps, senator frankens

absolutely. ♪ >> president obama: all right. you're going to have to -- >> anthony: i will walk you through. >> president obama: you're gonna have to walk me through this. >> anthony: we're about to eat bún cha. and it is about as typical and uniquely a hanoi dish as there is. these beautiful little pork patties, grilled pork belly. bun cha is served in a broth of vinegar, sugar, and the ubiquitous nuoc cham, or vietnamese fermented fish sauce. chilies to taste. i mean, if you have an important state function after, you might not want to go too heavy on the garlic. >> president obama: you know what, i'm going with this thing. you know? we're gonna do what's appropriate. >> anthony: a little vinegar. >> president obama: all right. >> anthony: and then you just hack off noodles, you just drop them in your bowl. >> president obama: yeah, that's not too elegant, but i managed it. >> anthony: and dip and stir and get ready for the awesomeness. >> president obama: i'm ready. now, is it appropriate to just pop one of these whole sucke

i love how these liberals always outt president obama -- sp president obama's policies and they do not realize that when you come up from a position of weakness like president obama did and you lead from behind, you have lots of money leaving the country and corporations leaving the country, and lots of jobs leaving the country. when you get out of these trade deals that we were in for weakness, we turn around and say, we do not blame ya'll for taking advantage of us because we did a bad deal. so what we are going to do, we are going to change it. we are going to be into good deals -- that way our economy will become stronger. your pointt to take because this is something that was set on the campaign trail and you have heard from conservatives -- president obama was seen as "weak." president trump is showing strength by saying, these are bad deals. guest: i think you cannot confuse strength with hyperbolic over the top rhetoric. that is not strength. loud talking points are not strength. strength is showing resolve. inn you look at asia particular, you have to go back decades. this is

did so when it comes to trump policy, they are using k obama's playbook got a lot of obama people held over, and i want to see that changing. >> how do you explain that, this is a president -- talked on terror his justice department how do you spla in the fact in a as i say they are doing the same thing, not taking these people into the enemy combatant -- for interrogation, but instead, putting them immediately in the criminal justice system allowing them to lawyer up? >> woefully unprepared he the nations i got from department of justice about the legal reason made me so mad i could not see straight said the reason they didn't declare new york guy enemy combatant even though he pledges isil there is no command and control that is ridiculous they are recruitinging in cyberspace trying to radicalize he people in their backyard what makes you he enemy combatant when you adopt rad kcal9 islamic he philosophy act on it when you kill in name the master mind ab behind comengz eye attack under obama administration interrogated him on ship before federal court trump administration took this ma

at the first annual obama foundation summit in chicago, former first lady michelle obama assumed the role of social scientist and warned women not to spoil the men in their lives. >> it's like the problem in the world today is we love our boys. we raise our girls. you know? we raise them to be strong and sometimes we take care not to hurt men. it's powerful to have strong men, but what does that strength mean? does it mean respect? does it mean responsibility? did it mean compassion? or are we protecting our men too much? so they feel entitled and a little self-righteous sometimes. >> laura: it seems that mrs. obama was making a veiled reference the sexual harassment allegations that rocked hollywood and media companies. the claim that the world is dangerous for women. that's an overstatement for women in the united states. she is right to this extent. women do at times protect their men too much and enable their abusive behavior. hillary clinton comes to mind whom michelle obama supported in the last election. was girl power on display when hillary clinton attacked bill's accusers w

. >> president obama found himself exactly where he didn't want to be. >> narrator: the president decides to draw a line. >> a red line for us is chemical weapons being utilized. >> narrator: and then decides to pull back. >> it was all in motion, and at the last minute, the president blinked. >> i will seek authorization from congress. >> extremists were sending the message to the locals that, look, you've been betrayed by the united states and its regional allies. >> narrator: frontline investigates the choices the president faced as syria descended into war. >> the president is troubled by the outcome. he can't help but look at 200,000 dead syrians, the rise of isis that is now extending to far places in the middle east. >> we will degrade and ultimately destroy isil. >> obama was elected to end wars, not begin them. >> narrator: tonight, "obama at war." >> frontlinis made possible by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. and by the corporation for public broadcasting. major support for frontliis provided by the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundatio

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the obama administration was so focus on a nuclear deal with iran. go what to the 2008 campaign, in the primaries, barack obama said he would sit down with dictators without precondition. and hillary clinton mocked him for being naive and foolish. she didn't know the half of it. but he wasn't just talking in the abstract there about some principle of international relations. he was talking in particular about iran and about trying to reorder our alliance structure in the middle east. he admitted as much in the last year in a notorious interview he conducted with new york magazine. therefore, he always ended up siding with iran's interest in the middle east, all to get to a deal and to preserve a deal. so for instance, when students protested in iran after the ayatollah stole the elections in summer of 2009, the obama administration largely stood by. for days they said nothing. they finally issued a meekly worded statement. not even a strongly worded statement. by contrast in the arab spring 2011, larl it 18 months later, a partner of ours, egypt, und

then this image posted by sousa of president obama and michelle obama contempting the parents of a soldier killed in afghanistan. sousa has a new book of his photographs, "an intimate portrait," it just came out yesterday. congratulations, pete, on your book. it must be really exciting for you. >> it is. i'm excited. >> so you are not afraid to get into it with the political climate. and you do those side by side contrasting headlines with portraits of obama from his time in office. what are eyou hoping to achieve ? >> i'm just hoping to remind people what the eight years were like when president obama was in office. that's it. >> and what were they like? >> i think it was a very -- he was very respectful president, i think he worked really hard. i think it's a different time than it is now. and i'm not -- you say get into it, i'm not trying to get into it. i'm just trying to show people, this is what happened during his administration. >> what's the difference between, in your assessment, of president obama and president trump? >> i'll let other people make -- >> when you see interactions

in a different way than the obama administration did. they felt like behind the scenes diplomacy and other means with the best way to keep someone from getting hurt and getting them home. we have heard other families speak out saying we were told to be quiet. we were told to leave it alone. there were families or talked about ransom issues and they were threatened that they were going to be prosecuted under the obama administration if they tried to reach out and save their loved ones. it's a different way of seeing the issue. >> critics would say the obama administration was maybe more concerned with the broader diplomatic picture not necessarily with people who were held. whereas the trump administration made extracting people its top priority. i don't think the trump administration has really gotten the due credit for getting otto warmbier out. that is something the obama administration have a year to do and was unable to. it happened pretty quickly after president trump came into office relatively speaking and for whatever reason, the

obama. maybe he's just -- i wonder what he would have said had he inherited what barack obama inherited from the president before him, what he would have to say about that president. >> two things, don. first of all, clearly as you say, there is something particularly loathsome about the way president trump as a candidate glommed on to the birther movement as a way to sort of crawl his way to the top of the heap in presidential politics. but leaving that aside for a moment because we've talked about this a lot on your show. let me go into what you just said. that the president -- part of this is about president obama, and part of it is about president trump himself. it's about obama to the degree that, as you say, he still feels like he's in competition with president obama. he brags rightly that the stock market is up 20% since he's been president. but the stock market was up 150% over obama's eight years, and president trump knows that. and i think his behavior suggests that he's in compet

at least that barack obama did not ship his factories to china. barack obama didn't make ties and hats and shirts and heels and -- >> laura: okay. if you're going to that -- i don't want to interrupt you but i want you to stay on point. did any of those bullet points that i put in the opening, in the angle, the trade deficit went up every year. of course china aggressively moved. this is from foreign policy magazine, the commentary magazine, this is not -- foreign affairs -- this isn't like a right wing view. china expanded their economic footprint, space weaponry, stole our intellectual property, stole my files from the office of personnel management. they moved on every front in eight years of obama. last time i checked you said trump was to brash. now he's too nice to the chinese. you can't settle on a narrative. the narrative of eight years of obama is the -- flat as a pancake. >> ever since infamous may that famous visit to china, china opened up and they've been on the rise. it's not a obama thing or a bush thing or a reagan thing. it's a fa

and when the obama administration got down to the bare facts, they found that out of about 73,000 initial denials ,000 cases only 42 that were referred to be prosecuted for potential prosecution. and if i recall correctly, the obama administration only prosecuted about 1/4 of what the bush administration prosecuted. -- and i the 42,000 don't mean 42,000 out of 73 ,000, i mean 42 period, out of 73,000, the obama administration only decided to get 13 convicts. 73,000 initial denials. that tells you the system doesn't work very well at all. it doesn't make sense that we would have a system that would use all the information that somebody provides to look for hits of somebody that should not be able to buy a gun. use the data -- date of birth, use the social security number, use the information there to check to see if someone is ineligible to buy a gun. and then we can get serious about better gun enforcement. especially since we now have a department of justice, except for the special prosecutor . at's interested in just them

sure as obama young impression wasn't a very accurate one. what was missing today goals i think we made a good game someone rather than something seemed to be missing. we play well we put pressure on to cuts we we had some decent chance and. without obama young they didn't take them. all the need to find a solution and quick. a new coach would do them good fright and have had their own culture and sense of like. we had but next. to the. mission impossible freeman's new coach phil van kobolds needs america. if we had two or three top solutions in mind i mostly approached them knowing that they would be hard to get. turned us down bought. in on from some of. our new show support because bell who until now was a youth trainer at the club. he also told us to two or three other coaches we were short listed. from these we ended up choosing floor in fact. the floor and cheating but only until christmas after that braman hope to find a real coach. come in as long as you can say in our situation better options and perhaps even a better coach would hav

they under obama and the u.s. didn't get a nuclear iran iran got the sanctions lifted why is this white house team so how band scuttling this still isn't good for the u.s. i certainly think it's good for the u.s. you have the secretary of state the secretary of defense to chairman of the chief joints of staff. i believe even mcmaster all recognizing that it lies in the interest of the united states to continue with the nuclear deal they may have some concerns about certain aspects of it but that does not mean that a complete target of the dealer killing of it is in the interests of the u.s. this is entirely driven by trump himself and his motivations are not entirely clear there are a couple of contending factors they may be mutually may not be mutually exclusive such as the fact that he simply opposes anything that obama has achieved and as a result he is adamantly against his nuclear deal for no other reason that it has obama's name on it you have the israeli and the saudi factor again the saudis and the israeli

and at that moment, president obama bent over, and jacob touched his head. and i snapped that one picture. soledad: and among the final shots, this one just an hour after attending donald trump's inauguration. souza accompanied president obama for one final pass over the white house before flying to a california vacation. looking down on the executive mansion, president obama said, "we used to live there." and given how often souza slept in his office to capture early morning white house shots, he kind of used to live there, too. i'm soledad o'brien. we'll see you next week for "matter of fact." in the meanwhile, have a great thanksgiving. [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] ♪ ♪ ♪ we are the tv doctors of america, and we may not know much about medicine, but we know a lot about drama. from scandalous romance, (gasping) son? dad! we also know you can avoid drama by getting an annual check-up. so we're partnering with cigna to remind you to go see a real

give me an example of barack obama undermining democracy. andrew: let me give you an example that is equivalent to the obama administration. and i think i did he abuse the executive -- kimberley: but you defended it. andrew: no, i don't think it was defensible, but i don't think the intent and the way he behaved as anything like as dangerous as donald trump. here is a classic example. this is a man who has faced obstruction in the congress from his own party, who has been unable to construct a workable majority for any of the proposals he has constructed. the fact that he is too incompetent to be a dictator -- [laughter] -- doesn't mean the will and intent is not there. [applause] the fact that the constitutional order of the united states for the last 240 years of -- has not collapsed in the last nine months is not a great achievement. here is what he has been trying to pass for the last nine months. that is the affordable care act, which is the law of the land. he is required to effectively enforce the law of the land. he has been unable t

why didn't president obama act when putin's puppet, assad crossed. and why did the national left-wing media not report on the obama could you to youing to russia. these issues seem to elude our national left-wing media and the establishment gop. those unanswered questions also raise further questions, such as where were our intelligence agencies that seem to despise our president and just how compromised was the leadership of the bairchl tell jones community. perhaps when republican leaders on capitol hill come to their senses, when may have some answers. we can only hope. joining me now, three members of the house judiciary committee who introduced a resolution pushing for robert mueller to resign from his russia collusion probe, each believes it's time for a new special counsel to investigate the obama-era uranium one deal which gave russia 20% of the united states' uranium reserves. joining me tonight, gentlemen, i want to say congratulations, you actually stirred the montana --d the mountain, it is moving. this is the first genuine consequence qu

everybody knows your work and sees the obama's. tell me about wshepard fairey, give us the condensed version of who you are really. >> i grew up in carolina. i like to draw when i was young but then seeing how art can be applied to some things creative and rebellious, skateboarding and punk rock. i moved to the new punk rock which is hip-hop. and you know, i just liked the idea of using art to reach a lot of people and not in the elitist was but in a populous way of something to say. if you are going to take the time to communicate, why not have it meaningful. >> fast forward to that part of your life. your biggest work to date is the whole poster. the most recognizable piece of work. >> yeah >> that's saying when global and almost instantly, obama's p popularity is what propel that. i was lucky to create something that people thought it is compelling enough to become these similar bomymbols. >> you met obama? >> yes, i have. >> what did he say to you about the poster? >> he said he was grateful for it and he thinks artists are an

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so she's an obama holdover, correct? the dhs acting secretary? >> that's correct. >> laura: that is a problem. don't you think? that's a big problem. >> it's just simply pushing the problem over to the plate of the incoming secretary, hopefully incoming secretary to make the decision, to make the tough decision four months before the mid-term elections. frankly it doesn't make sense. the time has come for this temporary status for these folks to end. the reasons have been given the last 18 years that they've been allowed to be here and have been -- they received teach reign, too little reign. coffee rust. the reasons are ridiculous. >> laura: yeah, that has to come to an end. how about the assistant secretary of homeland security's tenure to come to an end. we need that to come to an end. just like in the state department, it's happening there as well. the president's mandate, his views, his policies are being thwarted by obama holdovers or by career bureaucrats in the state department. this is really thwarting democracy, thwarting the election r