third times, occasions for here in washington or in brussels or even perhaps in cairo or benghazi, people are listening to and thinking about what the human rights organizations are saying and the human rights organizations can sometimes drive media coverage and public debate. you know, they cannot put an issue onto the agenda of the u.n. security council. that's true. yet on the other hand you talk about, you know, the real struggle that has gone on in this country around a very, you know, which you assert anything to write lee, the most basic idea that torture is unacceptable and the fact that now, more than 10 years after 9/11, that the bedrock comment is still not fully accepted and they think we saw that in the context of some of the recent debate between the republican candidates for the nomination. you know, you attribute as i understand it, at least in part you attribute the failure to more firmly at trench the absolute ban on torture on what you see as the dilution of the language of rights to include things like a right to housing, right to food that really kind of in your mind