some of these social networking companies to surveillance companies and one of my colleagues went to brussels last week testifying to the european parliament about how it has been used and how we think that we can hold these companies accountable. on the other hand, some of the regulations that were posed are problematic in that just as back in the '90s the crypto wars blocked encryption technology from being exported. i'm sorry, the regulations on encryption rather and we have that ability to support encryption technology. there are similar regulations on surveillance technology. right now syrians are prohibited from accessing certain communications tools for existing commerce and treasury departments so they are trying to strike a balance between ensuring that the surveillance tools don't get in the wrong hands but also ensuring that communication tools are accessible to all. it does seem like an unfair for -- fight. in terms what people can do we should be looking at the same sort of model. users need to be aware, not just users, sorry, obviously multiple users but stakeholders and everyon

in brussels we meet a coordinated set of the european union's representatives because they're getting together to explore space together, embark on space adventures together. and one of the issues was we were perfecting our gps. yes, it was a military funded project, but once it became part of our commerce, then the ownership in a way kind of shifted from the military to the public. our planes are equipped with gps. gps receivers, so they can find their way around the world. europe was planning a competing system to gps system, called galileo. it's extremely expensive to do this. we are there, remember, this is the aerospace commission. we said you could use our gps, what's the matter? we want to build our own. our worry was that if they build it then they will require every one of our airplanes to be equipped with their galileo receivers, upping the cost of equipping all of our airplanes which is already in a bad economic state. so we are at the table, and i remember the guy sitting across from me. he was kind of smug. we were saying we want you to use this, and they were just doing

one of my colleagues was in brussels testifying how the tools have been used and rethink we can hold companies accountable. some regulations proposed is problematic to block a encryption technology to be exported. said now we do have that ability and there are similar issues. syrians are prohibited from accessing commerce tools for regulations from the commerce department. but to strike a balance they don't get in the wrong hands but also having communication tools. users need to be aware, but those are aware but in the past year we have seen awareness retain -- ratings but look at the bloomberg coverage has been incredible delineating how and where and what is going on. >> host: to follow-up, to call it the wiretappers although it is generally accessible to the public. if we look at the export issue, there are virtually no regulations preventing european countries from capable of equipment to unpleasant places because they are tools to be used for stopping porn or erred catching bad people or to spy on everybody. is there any way to change that or have greater restriction? is their

that exist for social networking company's to surveillance companies so one of my colleagues was in brussels last week testifying to the european parliament about how these tools are used and how we think we can hold these companies accountable. some of the regulations proposed is problematic just as the crypto wars blocked encryption technology from being exported. regulations on encryption. we had these crypto words and the dirksen senate office building export technology. there are similar issues putting regulations on surveillance technology as things stand right now. assyrians are permitted from accessing certain tools because existing commerce and treasury department regulations. the fear is to strike a balance between insuring the surveillance tools don't get in the wrong hands the also that communications tools are accessible to all. it seemed like an unfair fight. in terms of what people can do i think we should be looking at the same sort of models. users need to be aware. not just users. a lot of these have multiple uses but stakeholders and everyone needs to be aware of how these