a whole for there some very insult or in words for turkey let's bring in our correspondent istanbul dorian jones story and what happened 1st off to the e.u. kerr turkey refugee deal why is it not working. well i mean well there is that we have seen this increase in the number of refugees entering greece from turkey small to the levels that preceded the refugee to. deal but it is causing concern that this deal could be starting to break down because it comes at a time when the turkish president right type of one is warning he will open his orders to europe he does not receive help over refugees and why he made that warning is that turkey could be facing another massive influx of syrian refugees because the last rebel enclave in which borders turkey could be set to be falling to regime forces if that was to happen taiki could be seeing a 1000000 maybe more refugees coming into turkey turkey is were ringing the alarm bell saying we cannot take any more it needs help ok well germany is hearing the alarm bell europe is to what could germany and the e.u. be offering today to to get turkey to onc

joining me now is our correspondents dorian jones in istanbul and our chief political correspondent melinda during messed off with you know what happened to this refugee day why is it not working. well this all started when the turkish president may have type one gave a warning that he's ready to open he's bold as to europe if they do not address turkey's refugee concerns why tokyo is now warning about these fears it is ready for another mass influx of refugees into turkey from the syrian province of idlib which is the last rebel enclave i could well full to syrian forces in the coming weeks possibly months turkey says it cannot take any more refugees it needs europe to join in working together to resolve this this is tokyo issuing a law the whole of europe on these refugees going to greece is seen as part of up warming and they don't want to germany and the e.u. offering to get it once again behind this refugee agreement that they made with the country between the lines the money that's not what the german interior minister is saying in so many words but if you look at what he is saying he

straight to turkey that day w correspondent dorian jones joins us from istanbul welcome dorian as a tell us more about the turkish military operation. well there has been this ongoing bombardment from the air within hours of the announcement of the operation jets have been relentlessly pounding towns across the syrian border here at least 4 possibly 5 towns have been struck took issue tillery 2 have been bombarding the area along with mortar fire there have been some reports that the syrian kurdish forces have retaliated using small fire and mortars attacking nearby turkish border towns and this is just the very beginning of what is seen the turkish forces are laying the ground for a major ground offensive possibly they can start at night in the early hours of the morning part of a very major operation that turkey has been planning for many months i what are you hearing from northern syria. well it's very difficult to get a real report from what's happening but we do understand that from statements released by the syrian kurdish forces if the scribed major panic in town centers with the

jones is standing by in istanbul good evening to you dorian what kind of operation are we looking at here dorian we just saw in that tweet from richard the goal here is to neutralize terrorist threats but is he talking about the terrorists being the kurds or is he talking about the terrorists being the isis prisoners that are in the area . you speak to touch officials they'll say it's both but let's be clear the primary optics of this operation is to drive back the syrian kurdish militia that has been on turkey's boulder for several years except that this group is a terrorist organization linked to a kurdish insurgency in the site turkey and they say that they have been committed to removing this threat from its from its border and it will point to the fact that it has getting support from the international community saying that they are respecting turkey's right to protect its bolt and now this operation is going to be a major operation.

correspondent dorian jones is standing by in istanbul good evening to you dorian what kind of operation are we looking at here dorian we just saw in that tweet from rich a thai air to one the goal here is to neutralize terrorist threats but is he talking about the terrorists being the kurds or is he talking about the terrorists being the isis prisoners that are in the area. speak to touch officials they'll say it's both but let's be clear the primary objective of this operation is to drive back the syrian kurdish militia that has been on turkey's border for several years has said that this group is a terrorist organization linked to a kurdish insurgency site turkey and they say that they have been committed to removing this threat from it and it will point to the fact that it has getting support from the international community saying that they are respecting turkey's right to protect its borders now this operation is going to be a major operation this is been in the planning for months turkey plans to create a 30 kilometer deep. safe zone as president calls it and it's going to be seve

to you dorian the turkish military operation it has now gone from just an air of assault to a ground assault what do we know i mean troops and forces have actually crossed the border now right. well that's right the turkish defense ministry in a statement has said that the ground operation has begun saying soldiers have crossed across the syrian border into these towns held by the syrian kurdish militia this follows of bombardment by turkish jets and turkish artillery pounding . syrian militia and bases. possibly to the turkish military expediting this operation into previous operations in the past couple of years the . last had full days even one case a couple of weeks this that indicates that. these operations ground operations this could be costly and reaction to the growing backlash in washington you just heard the u.s. president donald trump again threatening to destroy turkey's economy if he if they go too far against the cuts so there is a realization that he need to get on with the top aeration with the ground forces on the ground this spring tempo in the operation and withou

or listing the story down to turkey to be correspondent dorian jones joins me now from istanbul good evening to you dorian the turkish military operation it has now gone from just an air assault to a ground assault what do we know i mean troops forces have actually crossed the border now right well that's right the turkish defense ministry in a statement has said that the ground operation has begun saying soldiers have crossed across the syrian border into these towns help.

jones with the latest tonight from istanbul dorian as always thank you earlier i spoke with. he's the spokesman for the us the kurdish forces in syria and i asked him what he and his people are experiencing now. we'll there is little slow. chaos and i think there is not fear specially in the areas that have been. tried and shared by the turkish army during the last few hours we have several casualties several kid and others wounded mostly from the civilian population and. i think that created a lot of fear among the people about the gain in other areas little bit far from the border. the life continues as it was and there are a lot of people who are trying to support those in the border cities and towns and everyone is trying to work everything together in order to pass this period of time of peace. that we are facing now. tell me if you can't you know these airstrikes that are coming from turkey what are they targeting i mean what is being hit. we really don't know what what they are trying to target but mostly they are targeting civilian populated. mostly neighborhoods in t

dorian: that's right. the turkish defense ministry in a statement has said that the ground operation has begun, saying soldiers have crossed the syrian border into these towns held by the syrian kurdish militia. this follows hours of bombardment by turkish jets and turkish artillllery, pounding townwns all held by the syrian militia, but it does suggest that the turkish military are expediting the operation. the air strikes a and artillery lasted for days. even in one case, a couple of weeks. this indicates that after a few hours, they are starting these ground operations. this could be in reaction to the growing backlash in washington. we just heard the u.s. president again threatening to destroy turkey's economy if they go too far against the kurds. there is a realization and ankara they need to g get on wih the operation -- there is a realization in ankara they need to get on with this operation. brent: what do we know about the situation on the ground in northern syria? >> it is difficult to get confir

all right let's go to turkey now waiting correspondent dorian jones is standing by for us to tell us more about this turkish military operation. well the ground phrase of the operation has started according to a statement from the turkish ministry that was after a sustained day of bombardment by turkish fighter bombers and turkish should tillery that hit a whole variety of of towns and settlements all across the syrian border of this syrian port on the syrian kurdish region all the main towns are believed to have been hit by strikes as well as targets of belonging to the syrian kurdish militia we also according to a statement released by turkey's defense ministry said $141.00 targets have been hit and underlines the scale of the operation that is unfolding it had been expected be far more limited at least in the early stages but this indicates that the turkish government all keen to get on with this operation. and underlines how large an operation this is going to be absolutely does indeed seem far more expansive than rapids than many observers had at the haps though and with that wh

and you just go to istanbul now that's correspondent dorian jones is standing by hey dorian so there we have a turkish president. making threats what's he trying to get at that. i think this is all about money and the comments by young clueless the european union president yesterday where he said that european union would not provide any money for what turkey's plans of a safe zone in syria turkey want to create a 30 kilometer deep several 100 kilometer long a buffer zone in which he says he will house millions of us here refugees currently living in turkey now turkey is looking for the european union to pay for that is a price tag of over 20000000000 euros and the comments by you away he's condemned this operation call for restraint said that we will not give a single penny for these plans has provoked this angry response from one because a key part of the plan is that the european union ultimately pay for what it once said is a 1000000 new homes in this syrian regime area that turkey tries to take control ok stand by dorian because since turkey launched its offensive on wednesday c

let's bring in correspondent dorian jones who's covering the story for us from istanbul dorian so it is now day 2 of the offensive how fast are turkish forces now advancing in syria well we all seem intensification of the fighting particularly around the towns of telling. these are 2 strategically important towns the heavy fighting last night and that fighting is still continuing today we've took your special forces believed to be leading the operation on top of that strike some artillery continuing to strike all along this several 100 kilometer front that has been opened up by turkey defense minister claiming that they have captured a number of important villages and of a strategic targets at the same time reinforcements are steadily building up pouring into syria also accompanied by elements of the free syrian army a force that has been fighting the syrian regime but now a closely allied with turkish forces. meanwhile dorian we've seen the turkish president lashing out at any criticism of this offensive and he's now threatening to send refugees to the e.u. let's listen to what he s

and joining me now from istanbul is the correspondent dorian jones dorian german chancellor angela merkel has told turkey to immediately halt its offensive in northern syria have we heard any reaction from the turkish side. no there's been no reaction as of yet but it is expected to make what is a listen to these latest call in fact earlier in the day speaking mocked european leaders calls for an end to this operation underline the turkey's commitment that they are going to pursue this operation until all their object is or have been achieved and the present heard one does appear to be indicating a further expansion in the initial objectives of creating a 30 kilometer safe zone it now talk of expanding the operations far further than that i'm speaking to a source head of the operation he said the turkish military persians could be as far as 100 kilometers deep into syria possibly the taliban health sako where the many of the reminded of refugees are fleeing to possibly took shoppers could extend as far as that turkey really sees this is an opportunity of securing its border in its mind on

well joining us now from istanbul is the correspondent dorian jones story of german chancellor angela merkel has told turkey to immediately halt its offensive in northern syria have we heard any reaction from the turkish side yet. well there's been no direct response to chancellor merkel's call for sunday president one has been dismissing calls similar calls from other european leaders saying turkey's england to listen to what he says is this call to end the fight against terrorism they said this is very much about the future of the country nothing will dissuade turkey from continuing its operations and in fact turkey does appear to be ramping up its operations given the fast moving developments happening in syria now that turkey very much see this is a key moment this is not a moment now to step back but rather to operations up further there's even speculation taking could extend its operations far beyond the original objective of a 30 kilometer safe so turkey really sees this as a critical moment for the whole region this is a moment the turkey has to address all its concerns and se

let's get the latest now with dorian jones joining us from istanbul good morning dorian what are you hearing about the agreement between the kurds and damascus could syrian government forces soon be deployed in the north of syria well we're not hearing any details on the precise arrangement in fact there hasn't been any official confirmation by damascus that a deal has been struck other than that they are deploying forces towards the border with turkey they are believed to have moved into the town of cop army all right on turkey's border very strategically important but they are the understanding of this deal is that they will ultimately secure the whole of syria's northern border with turkey but as i said there is real no details on what will make the details of how this will be carried out but it's be i think the understanding is that the syrian kurdish forces are accepting that they are now falling under the control of the damascus regime if that one statement from a prominent kurdish leaders said we don't trust these people were very unhappy this is a very bitter pill to take but

foreign ministers and dorian jones is joining us from istanbul welcome to both of you and dorian i'd like to begin with you what does everyone want to achieve with a potential attack here now on man bitch well for president on this has been a target and objective for well over a year and a mum beach is an extremely important town it's a major hub of communications hub sitting on a main highway connecting syria with iraq and beyond that it is the gateway to syria's 2nd city of aleppo president one has saying that he had this deal with the united states that they would promise the withdrawal of syrian kurdish militia if they took it more than a year ago they said america remains still not deal and now he's saying that we determine now to take the city i return it to what he says is its rightful owners and that his reference to the syrian free syrian army forces which have been fighting with damascus regime and now are allied with turkey the key question here will be will damascus be happy with the handing over of such an important city to rebels that are currently still fighting the re

with turkey in northern syria but you know turkey for its part is really talking talking tough and dorian i'd like to ask you about this turkish threat to dishonor the agreement with the e.u. over migration. house syria. is that right indeed what i mean potentially it is very serious you have to recall way back in 2015 nearly a 1000000 refugees from turkey crossed. into the greek islands in greece and overwhelmed not only greece but the rest of europe and i think it's in the back of their minds that turkey can do that again it's another one is reiterating this right again and again but it has to be said they were kept to it because in 2015 the route from greece to the rest of europe in germany in countries like the u.k. and france was open now that routed the thank you very close to a lot of skeptics here whether the refugees in turkey would flock in so many numbers to greet when they realize the situation in greece is nearly as bad if it's in turkey so people to suspect that this is an empty bluff. by turkey many in your may not be ready to think the terms story and jones with a view fro

jones but the view from turkey thank you dorian. meantime the european union has condemned turkey's military intervention in syria max hall for men in luxembourg were e.u. foreign ministers have been meeting to discuss that matter max the e.u. foreign ministers they've they've concluded their meeting what did they agree on in their efforts to stop this turkish offensive. one point you just mentioned to me and that is probably the most important point that you can find in that declaration that was released by the e.u. foreign ministers is they condemn the military action that's one point the other point that is no worthy here is that they commit or the member states commit to strong national positions regarding their arms expert policy to turkey now it sounds good but don't confound it with an e.u. wide arms embargo because it's not the same thing this leaves it up to the member states to do whatever they want regarding turkey. and is that a strong or rather weak signal would you say toward turkey. if you look at where they came from

jones who is joining us from istanbul dorian what does anyone want to achieve with this planned attack on man bench. well man beaches are crucial to teach equally important city in northern syria it sits upon a vital motorway that connects northern syria with iraq and ultimately with iran and beyond that it is the gateway to aleppo syria's 2nd city so all sides in the syrian conflict have been true striving to get control of mom bitch now that the u.s. have withdrawn it is now seen as a possible leads the turks canal sees it and prisoner one speaking today said that this is returning to its rightful owners and who he means by that are the syrian arab forces that have been fighting the regime who are now allied with turkey the syrian free army and. taking hold of my beach as part of his wider strategy of returning between one and 2000000 syrian refugees back to syria many of them with the opposition to the syrian regime now the syrian regime the mask is determined to take back monday and crucially the syrian kurds who are currently holding it as part of the deal have said that they will

correspondent dorian jones joins us from istanbul. age. said there are these reports now from syrian state t.v. confirming that syrian forces have entered this is part of a deal with the syrian kurds whereby that they would open the doors the gates to these key towns and cities in the region but the same time we are getting unconfirmed reports that there have been clashes in the suburbs by syrian rebels backed by the turkish forces even reports of one tank has been destroyed now this hasn't been confirmed by turkish forces with the syrian rebels have been camped just outside for many many months and the turkish president. today said that will be the next target of their operation which is an extremely important city it's on a key highway that leads to iraq in an interim making it a very important supply route and it's also the gateway to syria's 2nd city of aleppo all the syrian civil war in this city and now it appears to be up for grabs between syrian rebels backed by turkey and the damascus regime forces so as this complicated picture b

right or dorian jones on the story for us tonight in stamboul dorian thank you. well the european union has condemned turkey's incursion into syria and e.u. foreign ministers meeting in luxembourg have agreed to restrict the livery of arms to turkey though they did not agree on sanctions against encore. brussels bureau chief max hoffmann he has been covering those talks force in luxembourg you foreign ministers who have started down the path of economic sanctions against turkey they could have also started down the path of when you wide arms embargo against turkey but they didn't they chose weaker measures one of them condemning the military operation by turkey in north korea the other one recalling the national effort the national arms embargo by you member state of unity but at the weak signal that many think it's so weak because some of the e.u. are very worried that turkey could terminate the e.u. turkey migration agreement and that would spell real trouble so a signal of unity but it most likely will not make a difference on the ground there was max hoffman

rather going jones on the story tonight in stamboul dorian thank you. here's some of the other stories now that are making headlines around the world in britain a 30 year old man has been jailed for a minimum of 15 years for attempted murder in august. deliberately drove his car into pedestrians and cyclists and police officers in central london in an attempt to imitate previous terror attacks 7 people were injured in that it's happened one person has died and 4 people have been injured during protests in guinea's capital opposition parties and activists are trying to trying to block but to changes to the country's constitution which could allow the president to run for a 3rd term in office a new political star has emerged in budapest following sunday's main aural election center left opposition party leader garry again. with his call for closer ties between hungary and brussels is the 1st electoral setback for nationalist prime minister viktor orbán since he came to power back in 2010. in spain a judge has issued an international arrest warrant for th

on the story for us tonight in stamboul dorian thank you. dramatic developments from the united states to from the president let's go to washington our correspondent on the story good evening to you all over this is a dramatic reversal in the u.s. president's plans for withdrawing forces from northern syria so the president now ordering those forces not to leave what are you hearing from the white house. while president made an announcement where he is. such jesting that he will soon sign a sign a. an order an executive order imposing tariffs on turkey and in particular we are expecting 50 percent on steel tariffs those tariffs were just reduced a little while ago in may in addition to that some turkish officials are supposed to be targeted here and also a stop to an ongoing trade deal between the united states and turkey is expected that is not being taken place so far it was an announcement made by the president by the white house just a little while ago but it shows very much under how much pressure he is he is desperately trying to make

brent: all right, dorian jones on the store rr -- story for us tonight, thank you. in britain, a 30-year-old man jail forward minimum 15 years for attempted murder. in august, salid khata drove his car into pedestrians, cyclists and officers in london to imitate previous terrorist attacks, seven people were injured. people have been injured in guinea's capital as thehe try t block potential changeses to th cocountry's constitution which could allow the president to run far third term in office. a new political star has emerged in budapest following sunday's may i don't recall election. center left opposition party leaderer gergey karachna won. it's the first electoral setback for the nationalist prime minister since he came to power tpwhack 2010. in spain, a judge has issue an international arrest warrant for the former kevalan president who fled to belgium after the failed 2017 independence bid for catalonia. the warn comes after spain's supreme court convicted a host of other catalan separatist leaders, nine of whom received lengthy prison sentences. massive prote

let's go to dorian jones that stumble welcome dorian what sort of effect are u.s. sanctions likely to have. well initially they've had absolutely none in fact the turkish financial markets surged on the news of the sanctions or the turkish lira recording a high increase and of similar other markets as well and that's because the expectation was that these sanctions were going to be far more draconian in fact these measures are seen as largely symbolic and more than that it is seen that they are preventing or at least postponing the possibility of far more to conan sanctions coming from congress where there was a lot more concern so at least for now it seems that turkey believes it's dodged a bullet and you've heard a very tough statement from the turkish president richard type the one insisting this will have no effect and go on reaffirm his commitment to pursue the object of this operation to the very end and the turkish foreign minister. also china saying sanctions don't work let's talk about this this operation then if the syrian government is now in control of

are for the latest now let's go to the w's dorian jones he's standing by in istanbul good evening to you dorian what are we looking at tonight has this operation gone from an offensive to push back the kurds to a potential confrontation between the military forces of turkey and syria and russia. well that is the big danger that is that he's facing these syria now and it's all focused around this strategically important town of mom beach you have to mask his forces now taking control of the town and turkish forces camped outside with the turkish president reject typer the one creator ate his commitment to take that town to turn it back to what he says his rightful owners now these people are groups that have been fighting the syrian regime for years and damascus will be equally determined not to let that happen in between now you have moscow trying to diffuse the risk of a confrontation and up until now russian president president vladimir putin was strongly backing the damascus regime has developed of working relationship with now he has to manage this feat of balancing the both dama

mean monod taki the sanctions seem to have had little impact so far correspondent dorian jones has more from istanbul. turkey's political leadership have dismissed sanctions by u.s. president donald trump as further financial markets in turkey shrugged off their impact there have been expectations that the sanctions by washington would be far more severe but trump sanctions were largely seen as symbolic for the turkish lira even recording a modest increase as along with the broader financial markets turkish president reject type word one vowed to continue its operation until all the objectives have been achieved turkey continued to ramp up its offensive into syria and there is mounting concern over the strategically important syrian town of mom bitch damascus forces have taken over the town of the syrian forces open the doors as part of a wider agreement but turkish forces are camped out around the important town with president vowing to take it the mask equally determined not to allow that to happen and russia has deployed its forces between the 2 armies russian president vladimir puti

make seem to be normal in most cities around the world is something unusual for many in the it could dorian capital quito especially when it comes to the prices. for 11 days the country was completely paralyzed by protests against cuts to fuel subsidies and the resulting leap in the cost of petrol. the import of 60 percent of ecuadorian people are extremely poor so who would be affected by these feelings creases of course the people of ecuador not important business men. who are against rich left against right the protests or numerous clashes between demonstrators and security forces at least 6 people died in the violence and over 500 were injured. the international monetary fund had insisted the government council feel subsidies as part of its attempt to balance the budget that turned ecuadorians dissatisfaction with their leaders into outrage. people have not seen a single penny. but nonetheless their governments have taken out a 1000000 loans. people don't see these loans. those are annoyances. you can't see the current government with so many loans building roads hi joy electric power b

let's get the latest now from istanbul we're joined now by dorian jones our correspondent there good morning a dorian we have the turkish president saying he will never accept a cease fire now what does this mean for the visit of u.s. vice president pence he's due to arrive today. well vice president pence is facing a very tough sell the president has been very clear that there will be no stepping back in this operation and that's why because one says his operation is all about guaranteeing the safety and ultimately the future of turkey and in many ways president one has put his reputation on the line in this operation at a time when he's very politically vulnerable maybe the most vulnerable he has been in more than 15 years in power because there is mounting discontent in the country over the presence of over 3 and a half 1000000 syrian refugees and a key part of this operation is to ultimately return between one and 2000000 refugees that's why turkey nice expand this operation create this 500 kilometer long 30 kilometer deep safe zone as to allow the return of these refugees now mi

and dorian jones is in is fanboy good evening to both of you are going to let me start with you the turkish president saying turkey will never declare a cease fire and negotiate with kurdish fighters so what are pompei of the secretary of state and pence the vice president what are they hoping to achieve with this trip. well the white house officials told us that fires president pants and secretary of state pompei a wouldn't be having to turkey if the white house wasn't confident that they can achieve their goal and their goal is a ceasefire in syria but this was 2 days ago and the vice president and the secretary of state are still in washington waiting and president trump told us today that they might be going to morrow or today but maybe tomorrow so it seems that the white house is not confident no more that they can a mission can be successful durian the united states has already imposed economic sanctions on turkey what more can it do to get its message across. well those sanctions were broadly dismissed by turkey's financial markets and turkey's political leadership as being mainly sy

brent: dorian, the united states has already imposed economic sanctions on turkey. what more can it do to get its message across? dorian: those sanctions were broadly dismissed by turkey's financial markets, and turkey's leadership has been mainly symbolic. but the u.s. congress does demand and are proposing far draconian measures. and if this visit by vice president mike pence is a failure, then the pressure to introduce those reforms, which could even have so much support to override any veto by the u.s. president trump, could come into force. and those could have major effectcts on turkekey's financil markets. turkey is dependent for over $100 billion a year on loans, and much of that comes from the u.s. financial markets. if that was interfered with, then turkey would be in trouble. brent: earlier today the u.s. president said that turkey's incursion into syria, quote, has nothing to do with us. and he also added that the u.s.'s former allies the kurds are quote, no angels. here is more of what he said. >> the kurds are very well protected. plus they know how to

and let's get some analysis on this story in istanbul we have our correspondent dorian jones standing by for us and here in the studio we have henning reka with us from the german council on foreign relations good to have you both dorian let's start with you there in istanbul do we know anything about the talks so far and whether turkey really would agree to a cease fire. well we don't really have any information about the talks other than they are believed to be continuing in fact turkish officials have been playing down any hope of any kind of breakthrough if you can say suggesting this will just be a frank exchange of views on crime washington really are at loggerheads over this operation and relations have been plummeting ever since it was launched and following sanctions being enforced by trump earlier this week and turkey's message and a message from the turkish president as you have typer heard on was that we will not in this operation until all our objectives are achieved and dismissed calls from president trump of some kind of mediation saying we don't sit down with terrorist

moscow and how to deal with the growing pressure it's feeling from the russians thank you for that dorian jones in istanbul alexandra phenomena in washington thank you bill. here in germany the trial of a former nazi concentration camp guard is underway the 93 year old defendant is accused of aiding and abetting the murder of more than $5000.00 jews and shot off can they get danske in what is now poland is likely to be one of the last legal proceedings of its kind. the former concentration camp stove top of naked dunks in poland during the hitler regime this is where the nazis murdered an estimated 65000 people from august 1940 april 45 served at the concentration camp as a security guard investigators were able to prove this through records pertaining to his uniform the 93 year old admitted to having worked in the camp still he pleads not guilty i worked on several watchtowers i did my job as a security guard that was all. boarded he was 17 to 18 years old at the time his job was to prevent inmates from escaping or revolting therefore he's accused of contributing to the killing of 5230 p

so why does what let's bring dorian jones in istanbul into the cold so should. i just washington seem to have so little influence on. well president trump did hit turkey of sanctions at the beginning of the week but they were largely dismissed by turkey's financial markets and turkey's political leadership seen as basically symbolic because despite all the rhetoric that has been coming out of the crisis occasional criticisms from president trump wants to present turkish president heard one still sees trump as their main man in washington they're really their only ally in washington and while mike pence vice president pence was expected to warn one in these talks that if these talks fail than the pressure growing in the u.s. congress for much more draconian sanctions will only grow and will likely pass and maybe even override the president trying to veto uncross of the calculation that this will all take time and even if they even if it is a bigger vote and trying to veto the turkish military operation will have probably been completed by then turkey east dipping