california, being blown up on the streets of turkey or jakarta. and then this bubble, this fantasyland that the administration lives in in which isis is contained, they're losing, we're winning, and these things really don't matter and let's have some more gun control in america. >> yeah. let me play for both of you, former cia director mike morel saying isis has gained ground faster than al qaeda in a huge way and the former fbi director pointing out there are isis investigations right now in all 50 states. >> isis has gained affiliates faster than al qaeda ever did. from nothing a year ago, there are now militant groups in nearly 20 countries that have sworn allegiance to isis. they have conducted attacks that have already killed americans, and they carry the potential to themselves grab large amounts of territory. libya is a place where this could happen in the near term. isis controls territory in libya. they are currently expanding that territory. i would not be surprised if we woke up one morning and isis in libya had grabbed a large part of libyan territory. >> that group is using so

or an explosive is going to mitigate this threat or make it disappear, again, is fantasyland. it is about an enemy that has to be dealt with in situ in the middle east and here in america. >> it doesn't take the arguments of the gun control folks. when talking about the terrorist act it seems somewhat misplaced in the argument. we just heard from the 911 calls that he's pledging allegiance to the head of isis, this guy omar mateen, 29-year-old. then we hear reports that he mentions and talks about the boston bombers, the tsarnaev brothers, an allegiance there. you were starting to add up ties and officially the islamic state claimed responsibility. it seems like it. >> it's a big data set already this early that goes toward an act of islamic extremism on its face connected to isis. in my experience i have not known the islamic state to take credit with the official news agency, the amaq news, for events they are not responsible for but have in some way directed. maybe in this case he was not directed. he was inspired by or motivated by the islamic state. we are early days into under

the president basically gave away the store. >> the president lives in a fantasyland. the president send them hostages and send them more money. bill: some questions about the race, and john kerry questions. martha: what they got was much smaller and that make the negotiation a good one. we'll hear from kt about that as well. bill: the democratic candidates mixing it up during their fourth debate. hoik stepping up their attacks on bernie sanders who has seen a rise in polling. the two candidates sparring over guns and race in america among many others. >> the fact is, we have the affordable care act, one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama and the democratic party and our country. >> the secretary neglected to mention 29 million still have no health insurance and own more 0 under insured with huge co-payments and deductibles. >> to tear it up and push our country into that contentious debate i think is the wrong direction. >> we are going to tear this up and go forward. >> he has voted with the nra, the gun lobby numerous times. he voted to let guns go into amtrak and

nightmare scenario. what are they trying to do? >> i think they live in a fantasyland right now. donald trump is tapping into something in the country that's real. and if you take trump's vote and cruz's vote and carson's vote, the three outsiders, they are once again at about 62% in south carolina. and they have been consistently above 60% everywhere in the country. if you pull together all of the insurgents, and there's a message there. people believe the country's decay, they believe washington is the heart of that decay. they want somebody who is going to kick over the table and change washington. that's why cruz has done so well. and it's why trump has done so well. >> mitt romney, one of his great advantages was money. that's why a lot of you guys couldn't keep up. this time the billionaire is spending the least amount of money and running away can with this thing -- >> well, that's because of you guys. >> what? >> that's because of you guys. donald trump gets up in the morning, tweets to the entire planet at most cost, picks up the phone, calls you, has a great conversati