. >> we thought after tucson, gabby giffords, your colleague, and the raw emotion there among all of you, her friends, what you experienced on the house floor when she came back, that should have been enough to push this forward. then after oak creek. let me just quote back to you after oak creek, wisconsin, what you said. the votes aren't there for gun control. we certainly aren't going to be able to do it in this congress, and i don't know that we would be able to do it in a democratic congress because it takes a lot of votes to go down that path. republicans are in control, but there are a lot of democrats also who come from states, red states, where these gun issues are absolutely binding. >> well, we have heard something quite different from? some of our members. we had a caucus this morning and i met some of the members who are members of the nra, or are supported by the nra came forth and said that hunters in their districts have said this isn't what hunters are about. we do need -- right away we could pass, right away today, this week, we could pass the ban on assault makigaz

husband of former congresswoman gabby giffords delivered a victim impact statement on his wife's behalf at the sent tenting hearing of jared loughner. while he tried to extinguish of the beauty of life he failed. kelly asked us to look in the mir somewhere question how he was able to spiral downward without earlier interventions. kelli was joined in the courtroom both staring at loughner. he killed 6, injuring 12 histories. >>> one of the clear voices has been olympia snowe. retiring because in part she says it is dysfunctional. joining me now, senator snowe. talk about the fiscal cliff, combination of deadlines created to avoid economic crisis and now it may have the opposite effect. what do you think needs to be done? you're going to be a key vote on this. >> well, most certainly the president and the congress and the leadership need to be working together immediately to determine the framework and the specifics to avoid the fiscal cliff of both the expiration of the tax cuts as well as the major automatic cuts. in other words we have to come up with options and al turn tibs how we ap