this child, the 15-year-old, had gone on myspace, youtube, and on one of these had posted a profile where she says her favorite activities are killing and cutting. then she goes on, joy, to post a video of her electrocuting herself and her two little brothers on an electric fence. now, joy, come on, what does she have to do? take out an ad on third avenue and say i'm planning to kill? >> it's sad. the whole story. he's going to be tried as an adult. do you think there are certain risks to that? >> i assume you're talking about risks to the state. >> yeah. >> the risk to the state -- >> i am. >> -- would be that a jury would feel sorry for her. i mean, yes, i believe the police, i believe she's most likely responsible for a cold-blooded murder. but she is a 15-year-old girl. >> was sshe tried to commit sui this girl, when she was 13 years old. >> she's been in counseling ever since, joy. i see an insanity defense. i think a jury will feel sorry for her, but overall i believe they will convict because it was so thought out. the heinous nature of the crime. there's really nothing else they c