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keep operational, even though nobody may be in the properties. >> john: delicate norton talking about all the spending going on at the federal level. seemed to have stolen my suit as well. [ laughter ] coburn did. let's talk about that. doug mckelway, you are familiar with doug mckelway's reporting among other things. talking about this idea we have all of these thousands, tens of thousands of properties, that are sitting vacant, underused, unused whatever. costing us billions of dollars a year in upkeep. meanwhile, the sequestration, benefits for veteran tuition have been cut off. that was $373 million in 2012. sometimes you got to slap yourself upside the head to say where are the priorities here? >> i recommend anybody google wasteful government spending and you will have so many things to make you feel so angry. the government, we are not getting this undercontrol. if you just do the math, 55,000 buildings, 1300 empty buildings in every state could be sold and used for whatever. it's true. >> john: as doug pointed out red tape -- >> they can't do it. i love the list to go through.
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