punjab. >> so these weren't big timers? >> no. this was -- this was a kid who you know, had gone a bit wrong. he had a bad relationship with his dad. he was doing some, you know, odd jobbing. he was painting houses. he was -- he also told the police that he'd been -- he'd been a robber and he has a sort of typical profile of a young man who gets drawn into these jihadist groups. he was from an unhappy family. he had dabbled in petty crime and violent crime. and in -- when they -- when they go to a group like this, when they're attracted into a group like this, they're drawn by the glamour and the glory that, i guess, because suddenly you are goodtgo-- you have a purpose, you have a family, who are the your brothers in arms. you have a father, who's the uncle, who - as a jihadist and potentially as a -- as a fedayeen, a fighter who goes to die in combat. and you're off with this deal. you go to mumbai, you get to kill anyone you want, anyone of these bad people out there. >> so they tell them in advance they're going to kill

baroness warsi spoke to the chief minister of the punjab on monday. our high commission in islamabad continues to raise this case with the relevant authorities and foreign office officials are meeting pakistan high commission officials in london today to discuss his and other cases. we take this extremely seriously and are making that clear at every level. >> portsmouth is an entrepreneurial city, delivering a drop of 25% in jobseeker's allowance claimants over the past year. with this in mind, is the prime minister aware of a commercial plan put forward to the department of energy and climate change to build a number of specialist vessels designed to revolutionize and facilitate the industrialization of the tidal energy sector? does he agree that portsmouth would be an excellent place to build those ships? >> first, may i congratulate the honorable lady on everything she has done in recent weeks to highlight the importance of portsmouth and all matters maritime, in the broadest sense of the word? i am aware of this interesting project, and i understa

. >> that would include karachi, punjab and the whole area. >> indeed, the capital area. the fact that they called an army, which i have an issue with. so long as civilians will continue to cut on a military to discipline jobs, the military will keep on thinking that they can someday come up and clean it. whenever -- whenever they have tried, they have made a mess of pakistan. civilians have to start investing and civilian institutions. military should not of been called into islamabad. i say this with all humility, but something which i will also check, but because it is an important point, about what he mentioned about the future of the hakkani group. to the best of my knowledge, it comes from graduates of the hakkani group. they have different tribes. one is distinct, but all the other groups look for a similar. that is one point. i will also check. not to the best of my knowledge. >> the gentleman in the blue shirt. >> i really appreciate -- i feel like we have learned a lot about the who and what has been going on. i wanted to get at the underlying why. in your opini

around and said, wait a minute, what do we do when we attack north waziristan about all their allies in punjab and elsewhere, and don't we have a serious problem there, and how are we going to handle that? and they have not got a late for that, and he probably do not have the capability. >> thank you. and we will take one more before we get to the panel. i opened the first pakistan bureau for the associated press many, many years ago. and, one, i want to second bill's remarks about bangladesh. i hope we will hear more about that, if not now, a later time. this is basically directed felbab-brown, because election in afghanistan will mean the transfer of office from one individual to another. but will it actually be the transfer of power? time and time again you have asay -- and your colleagues well -- have talked about powerbrokers. so where will power rest once the decision about the election is made, and that includes references toward taliban, which, of course, did not anticipate, but holds tremendous power in afghanistan? >> this is perfect. one question for everyone. right in the sense off