but the u.n. is so fundamental to our efforts overseas that if it did not already exist, we would have to create it. through our membership in the u.n., we augment the response to emerging challenges and global crises with the added resources, expertise and international legitimacy of the u.n. membership in the u.n. makes our country more secure and more prosperous and it supports u.s. efforts to advance democracy, human rights, health and development. i look forward to hearing from you about how the president's budget but requests will promote our national interests and maintain u.s. global leadership through our continued work with the united nations. specifically, i hope you will address how the u.n. is working to address the violence in syria. iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons. efforts by the palestinians to seek statehood outside of a negotiated settlement with israel, i hope you will highlight both successes that you have had over the past year as well as your strategies for overcoming conti

the u.n.'s human rights council in geneva. israeli ambassador says al ashkar advocating violence against israel. if we had not been part of that council, again, which many people objected to, we wouldn't have been able to have taken that action. also u.s. -- in another news report, u.s. ambassador to the u.n. -- human rights council eileen chamberlain donna who said, took a strong position, and she made the statement, "the united states on monday urged the united nations human rights council in geneva to stop its biased treatment of israel." it took particularly issue with agenda item 7 on which -- and this is something i've been complaining about. as long as i've been on this session. every single session the united states council has put an item on it, on their agenda with regard to israel, and, she said, the united states continues to be deeply troubled by the council's bias and disproportionate focus on israel, as exemplified by the standing agenda item. i think it's very important that th

in the u.n. system, most prestigious organization in the entire world, they pay about $34,000 for that privilege. this is the discrepancy between financial obligations on some countries but yet the privileges that is so frustrating to moving reform forward and trying to make the organization more effective and more cost effective. >> mike on the independent line from german town, maryland. mike, you think the u.n. is still effective in its missions? caller: no, i think it's been a stillborn from the day it was initiated. but people need to realize the charter for the u.n. is based on the celebrate unions constitution that's written by communist alger hiss. but people need to realize the united nations is implementing agenda 21 and it's -- a part of it is it stands for international council for local environmental initiatives, and they are basically trying to usurp sovereignty of nations and even communities by draconian measures under sustain ability to basically hurt people into small compact ci

the entire u.n. would be focused on the united states and their, you know, their atrocities, quote unquote, and israel. host: what do you say to the american people that the united states is paying 22 percent of the bill and no one comes close to that? guest: it's a travesty. like i said, china, number two economy, the quote unquote new tiger of asia -- >> host: 3 percent. guest: and with their cash back program, less than that? it's horrific. it's hard to make the case to the american people that we should continue funding this. like i said, i'm not against funding the u.n. if it works. i say hell, give them more if what they're doing really works, but we have to take -- we cannot expect the u.n. to change if we continue to write blank checks which is essentially what it is, continuing what you're doing, here's your money, we'll ask questions later. host: the world bank is involved in the u.n.? guest: yes. host: the food program? guest: yes. host: world food program. isn't that the world health orga

u.n. actually works. first, a look at what is coming up next on c-span radio. >> beginning at noon, we read air 5 sunday talk shows courtesy of nbc, abc, fox, cnn, and cbs. topics include presidential politics, homeland security, immigration. nbc airs at noon eastern time. the gas are the advisor to president obama's reelection campaign and the adviser to mitt romney campaign. also, the vice chair of though house republican. abc is at 1:00 p.m. with white house counter-terrorism adviser, the former ceo of hewlett- packard, the chairman of google, and the former comptroller general. fox news readers at 2:00 p.m. with more from white house counter-terrorism adviser. cnn three years at 3:00 p.m. -- re-years at 3:00 p.m. with bob mcdonnell and john boehner. the cbs complete the lineup airing at 4:00 p.m. eastern. today, we talk with former mississippi governor haley barbour, los angeles mayer, chairman of the 2012 democratic national convention, and california democratic governor jerry brown.

the u.n. than any other country. and let me zero in on two areas. because of the strong u.s. leadership israel was granted a seat in the western europe and others group, w.e.o.g., in new york. and for that effort i thank you. we appreciate that. but unfortunately, israel was not a member of the w.e.o.g. in geneva, and therefore is effectively banned from many if not most u.n. organizations and agencies. my question is what is the u.s. doing to ensure that israel is granted full membership rights throughout the u.n. system? and then if there's time if you can give us a briefing on hezbollah rearming and what's going on in that part of the region. >> i'm sorry. i didn't hear -- >> what can be done with hezbollah and what the u.n. and the u.s. is doing to help prevent the flow of arms going that direction because it seems as though there's been a blind eye, so to speak, with the flow of arms toward hezbollah. and if you could clarify that, i'd appreciate that very much. >> okay. thank you. let me

general assembly the u.n. security council what's the point then i mean if the u.n. g.a. despite having a lot more members has a lot less tower one of the actual points of today's meeting are they just trying to send a message are they trying to put pressure on russia and china what do you gathering is the point of all this. the luckless scene from what we understand the message the point of this really is to send a symbolic message to the syrian government more so that russia and china because we've been hearing all these countries make speeches today see a thing that's the syrian government is committing atrocities so really this is another opportunity for those who do support regime change on the ground to send out criticism towards the syrian government but many experts are saying really but the fact that under this symbolic diplomatic gestures being attempted to united nations does not really mean much because any sort of document is not going to help stop the crisis on the ground unless it pushes for a cease fire so many are saying that should be priority or priorit

having to kowtow to u.n. law, i'd think that would have happened in some other case and i don't see it. >> you can't assume because something hasn't happened already that it couldn't happen in the future. and it doesn't render it a hypothetical concern. simply because it hasn't arisen to this level, up to this point. we do need to be concerned about the direction in which our law moves. and that's what's motivating my concerns here. >> senator lee, i appreciate your time and your perspective. thank you very much. >> thanks, anderson. >> by the way, senator lee said he didn't hear anybody raising concern about children with eye glasses being taken away by their parents under this u.n. treaty. actually, somebody did make that claim. his name is michael farris with the home school legal defense association. one of the groups that lobbied hard against this treaty. here's what he said in a radio interview for the american family association. >> the definition of disability is not defined in the treaty, and so my k

that he towards the u.n. as use if needed go around if you don't like it but while in all the court approach to the world body might suit washington it makes for a bad recipe for the stability i'm going to check on reporting from washington r.t. . well for some more analysis of the syrian crisis we're now joined by james corbett editor of the independent news website a corporate report dot com thanks for being with us the arab league is calling on the u.n. to send peacekeepers to syria what this is a t.v. and how different might it be from the arab observers mission. well given the we will conduct of un peacekeepers everywhere from haiti to the ivory coast in the congo and many other countries besides i think the syrian people should certainly hope that peacekeeping mission doesn't come about but but on the note of what this mission would achieve were it to be put together i think russian foreign minister lavrov has made the most prudent comment saying that there can't be any peacekeeping mission until there'

government wants the u.n. but they want the u.n. to do the u.s. bidding way in the united states uses the united nations in regard to the israeli palestinian question is very unromantic when the united nations passed resolutions which it has done repeatedly demanding that the israelis get out of the west bank in earlier gaza and earlier some. the united states didn't enforce those resolutions they didn't demand that they be enforced when it came to the united nations saying the palestinians have a right to be a recognized state the united states acted as if there was a crime against humanity that the united nations there take up the issue of palestinian rights we can see here a manipulation of the united nations when it does with the united states wants fine but when it stands with the palestinian people which it has repeatedly over and over again then the united states government republican or democrat found a way to condemn the united nations. the u.s. also did not support the resolution on syria put forward by russia which would call for all si

the u.n. and the council had not supported the war but i think today many americans understand why and perhaps appreciate the council and the u.n. took the right decision. >> host: what was the tone of your conversations with president bush at the end there? >> guest: he was determined to take action. he was determined to ensure that saddam hussein does not give the u.n. and international community the run around anymore, so he was absolutely determined. he was taking the right decision. >> host: was he angry? >> guest: no, he was -- but i wouldn't say he was angry in the cumbre stations with me. >> host: let's talk about peacekeeping. it something you have spent a lot of time in the book on as well and it's something you have spent a lot of time on in your career before you were secretary-general. you were head of the peacekeeping operation. a review of your book by "the washington post" by david ignatius called your book to study in the failure of a noble idea. has had a fair characterizatio

now the u.n. gets control over them. >> so u.n. bureaucrats could get control over his child if they decided to define disability as kids with glasses. so keep that sound bite in mind. it came up earlier tonight when i spoke with michael ferras. mr. ferras, you have been saying this u.n. treaty would allow u.n. bureaucrats based in geneva to take control of american kids. you said under this treaty the u.n. could define disability as kids who wore eyeglasses and therefore they would come under u.n. control. that's made up, though. how can you say that? >> well, first of all, i didn't say those things exactly. there are two different threads of the argument. one is that -- >> you actually did say that. you were on a radio program and i have the quote. >> let me give it to you straight. the eyeglasses comment was to illustrate the fact there's no definition of disability in the treaty. >> right, it's left up to each country to define disability as per domestic law. >> no, it is not. because it's an evolving concept and it will be def

a leaner u.n. that does more with less. second accountability. a cleaner u.n. with robust oversight mechanisms, ethics enforcement, whistle blower protection and greater transparency. third excellence and insis tans on delivering results and highest standards. fourth integrity, a more credible united nations that lives up to its founding principles and values and does not tolerate individuals or states that bring dishonor to the institution. this brings me to another important priority. every day we stand with israel to oppose hostile efforts to oppose israel's legitimacy and security at the united nations. we remain vigilant on the palestinian's unilateral bid for membership and enhanced status. there is no shortcut to statehood. tough issues can only be resolved through tough negotiations throughout the parties. and we only fight against anti-israeli resolutions in the general aembly, human rights council and elsewhere. allow me now to draw your attention to the long standing legislative revics on paying our assessed contributions to u.n. specialized agencies

the u.n. was responsible for a great failure to protect civilians in the final stage of sri lanka's civil war. it said that senior staff did not see it as their responsibility to prevent killings. the u.n. estimated at least 40,000 were killed in the final months of the conflict. >> it had been one of the world's longest running and bloodiest civil wars. in may 2009, a quarter-century of battle ended on the shores of this indian ocean island. government forces crushed the last of the tamil tigers. they had fort -- and had fought for a state in the north. now, all rebel leaders were dead. so where tens of thousands of civilians. in the years since then, the united nations and others have found that abuse by both sides and possible war crimes and now i have investigated itself for its own conduct during the last approval months of war. we have been given a copy of their internal report in its final stages. it found the united nations did not stand up to the very people that it should have -- sta

and the u.n. and the world health -- world health organization and others as well. >> but let's be clear what it means to deter unesco and the world health organization. it's not deterring a body sitting in geneva. it's deterring the decisions of 192 other member states. individually. and there is not one single blunt instrument that has that cumulative effect. it just doesn't work that way. >> so therefore, we disregard our policy? >> no, what we do -- >> that's your approach? >> -- is devise policies that serve our interests. we don't stick to policies that are many years old that are no longer working as intended and are in fact self-defeating. instead, we customize the tools for the time. i think your legislation, adopted in december, did that. and that puts pressure and targeted pressure on the palestinians. we can sit here and talk, and i'm happy to do, about what do we do about the other 192 u.n. member states and how do we influence their decisions on this. that's what we do every day in t

the u.n. and other organizations take if north korea goes forward and launches a missile just as they have promised in the next few weeks? >> in our view if north korea in violation of its existing obligations under the two resolutions you cited, in violation of its commitment made in the february 29th agreement, goes ahead with this satellite launch, it would be a very grave situation. a very grave profession. and we would aim for and expect a very strong response from the security council. >> thank you, madam chairman. madam ambassador, dr. rice, again, thank you for standing up so strongly for the united states' interests at the i.n. your leadership has been outstanding. you are here, after all, to ask for the president's budget for the u.n. what in your view are the major issues that relate to u.s. national security interests that are served by our membership at the u.n. and the funding that you seek, and what -- i know the administration, the obama administration's been involved in u.n. r

u.n. undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief coordinator. well yeah there are now british politician and civil rights activist during the last decade various top officials in the british government is most recently a big u.k. high commissioner to australia earlier the leader of the house of lords or secretary of state for international development in the cabinet rather he was the first black woman to occupy such a high position amherst work much in africa and the middle east tackling complex she was appointed the u.n. undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs. years ago. some awesome welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us so well my first question is about your recent visit to syria as far as i understand you visited syria in march two thousand and twelve on behalf of the u.n. and you tried to persuade the syrian government i'm quoting the worries to allow access to all parts of syria to help people affected by the civil conflict well h

the u.n. as use if needed go around it if you don't like it but while an all or cart approach to the world body might suit washington it makes for a bad recipe for world stability i'm going to check our reporting from washington. and we go clashes in syria continuing and violence on the streets of egypt and libya still present as well as we want to talk about the weapons being used in these conflicts questions like how did those weapons get there in first place exactly who are the people they're being sold to and who is benefiting from the sales financially and politically well this time around fingers are being pointed at russia and its previous arms sales to syria but all western countries including the u.s. are using one answer point those pingers are using the other to sell weapons themselves to plenty of other countries in the middle east and they happen for years r.t. correspondent kareen important i have takes a closer look at the rhetoric versus the reality. at the united nations secur

that you do towards the u.n. as use it if needed go around it if you don't like it but while an approach to the world body might suit washington it makes for a bad recipe for ability i'm going to check on reporting from washington r.t. . but more in-depth discussion on the standoff in syria coming up in the next hour investigative journalist a so when stanley says there is new unity in the opposition that calls for military intervention and supported by the facts as a taste of that interview. although both sides deny differences in in military intervention essentially in political differences there is different trends in the syrian opposition mainly between people who support outside intervention and the protestors who don't so you've got groups like the syrian national council which are now openly in favor of a no fly zone which to me seems ridiculous because you know there isn't any even claim that i know the syrian regime for all its many crimes there's no claim that it's problem to people so no fly zone just

tuesday according to the u.n. and the crowds were throwing rocks and metal rods at the u.n. cars and also there were shots fired at the cars nobody was injured but clearly this increases the amount of danger surrounding the u.n. peacekeepers that are in the country to observe suppose that cease fire that was supposed to be implemented back in august next month this ninety day mandate for the syrian mission the u.n. syrian mission expires and some council members it may not be willing to renew this mandate if they feel that the u.n. observers will be in danger if they are in syria which has now been deemed a civil war and finally we're you know with each passing day we hear increasingly horrific reports of atrocities going on in syria how much pressure is there right now for an intervention into this. well there's been a lot of comments made recently by the u.s. ambassador to the united nations susan rice saying that if there cannot be consensus reached within the security council in the coming weeks on how to add more pressure on the syrian government then some countries wil

generally, the u.n. pushes it off. very rarely have they ever sent away -- he might be one of the only two examples and the thousands of cases where someone has been prosecuted. host: why were the folks saying they were tough on this stuff? guest: whenever you do an interview or use it to a person, you say, they did it. they know how to handle it. you say, they are on top of it. at the end of the day, nothing happens. you hear them say, zero tolerant. probably 15 times. yes, they continue unabated. the rhetoric in no way matches the action on the ground. host: can you get through all of the stories and figures out what the budget is? guest: the other thing about the u.n. that is unbelievable, it is meant to represent all nations on the earth. it should be one of the most current parent organizations on the planet. the reality is, it is one of the most opaque. it is difficult to get any hard information. peace in these together, the budget is roughly in 2008, 2009, -- 2010, the last number we had, it was $24 billion. ho

that extends the u.n. supervision mission in syria for thirty days that's final thirty days and then it ends the second draft resolution submitted by pakistan extends the mission indefinitely or doesn't put such a limited time frame on it this way the u.n. observers would have more time to work within syria because as our viewers may remember it was in mid june when the head of the mission suspended all activities because the violence was increasing and u.n. officials said it became dangerous for the three hundred observer force that is in syria so while they are there and the mandate expires this evening it is still very helpful extremely helpful for the u.n. to have a mission there at least to be verifying and reporting back to the u.n. to the security council and the ultimate hope is if and when there is this is a station of violence in syria the observers would be able to go around monitor helped out with humanitarian issues and help move forward kofi annan six point peace plan that has been stalled fo

the u.n. undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief spotlight will be back shortly after the break so. you know sometimes you see a story and it seems so you think you understand it and then you glimpse something else you hear or see some other part of it and realize everything you thought you knew you don't know i'm target market is a big picture. please islamists. remnant of the tyrannical. rabble to. buy it. but instead took. egypt. welcome back to spotlight i'm al gore and all of and just a reminder that my guest on the show today is via their mosques u.n. undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs and emergency relief coordinator but you have seen the situation the result. of the fighting on the ground with your own lies you were able to witness it is it as awful as any african war that we that but i've seen that we sometimes see in good films or is it not exactly what would you say well i'm always very careful about making comparisons because i think that t

as the u.n. peacekeepers into syria these are the three main points which the arab league has come up with during their meeting in cairo the arab league has also called on the stronger backing for a position the fact they all rallied there is a board just for the opposition there is also the so-called saudi arabia draft resolution which may be discussed at the u.n. general assembly in new york on monday and there are reports that this resolution isn't that much different from the draft resolution which the u.n. security council was trying to buy which was also vetoed by russia and china earlier this month syrian opposition fighters have received really strong support not just from the arab league members but also from some of the more and expected sources for example from al qaida and some intelligence from iraqi officials suggest that in fact al qaeda militants are fighting alongside armed rebels in syria of course you have to remember also the increasing pressure from washington d.c. just recen

he said, "the u.n. secretary building in new york is 38 stories and it lost ten stories it wouldn't make a bit of difference." >> it wouldn't enough for charles. >> i got one more. mike huckabee said in 2009 it's time to get a jackhammer and chip that you have part of new york city. >> that's more like charles. >> john: floated in the east river never to be seen again. >> if it lost ten stories it would be improved. >> you can see this is a great idea to have reminded conservatives how they feel about the u.n. it's shocking how unshocking it is. >> is it in need of an overhaul? tearing down and rebuilding? >> the question is i want to know how this happens and why. was it just they didn't know about their own rules? or some rogue shipping clerk? >> how do you miss part there is an embargo of iran and north korea so don't ship computer equipment. >> there is evidence they went through channels that is less detectable. this is business as usual. they made robert mugabe-up tourism ambassador several weeks

now the u.n. gets control over them. >> the idea the treaty would give the u.n. vast control over american children's lives and take away kids with glasses from their parents is just factually incorrect. just not true. in july, testifying before the foreign relations committee, former u.s. attorney general dick thornburg pointed out that kind of stuff is just not true, it wouldn't have an impact on u.s. law. mr. thornburg is a republican and the father of a disabled son. he joins me now. mr. attorney general, appreciate you being with us. the crux of the senator's argument really seems to be just because u.s. law hasn't ever been affected by a u.n. treaty doesn't mean it couldn't happen some day. he says under article 6 of the constitution, any u.n. treaty automatically becomes law of the land in the united states. is that true? >> well, the consideration of this treaty was very carefully framed by attaching a number of restrictions, understandings and declarations that make it clear that number one, there is no need for change in u.s. law, there is not a single

japan's ambassador to the u.n. said that all u.n. member states should comply with u.n. resolutions. >> translator: all u.n. members are bound by u.n. resolutions. everyone is obliged to abide by and implement them. >> nishido announced a meeting late this month to help developing nations comply with the north korean trade embargo. >>> u.s. president barack obama is encouraged by the progress of democracy in myanmar. he's rewarded the government there by suspending sanctions. and he's named the first ambassador to myanmar in 22 years. secretary of state hillary clinton made the announcement after meeting with foreign minister wunna maung lwin. clinton said they've nominated the current special envoy to myanmar derek mitchell. she said the administration will allow u.s. firms to invest in the country, including oil and gas companies, and mining interests and central firms. the u.s. will maintain its arms embargo. >> we will keep our eyes wide open to try to ensure that anyone who abuses human rights or obstructs reforms or engages in corruption do not benefit financially

the u.n. peacekeeping chief of a lot to who recently made those comments saying that the conflict in syria is now a civil war he is the first you want to show to have made that type of declaration following the fifteen months of violence taking place in escalating in syria now of course his words can carry a lot of political weight inside of the security council where the u.s. and its western allies are been pushing for sanctions against the assad government now this is a campaign ongoing for months now with the u.s. pretty much leading it trying to get russia and china to agree on international sanctions against president bashar al assad until this point the russia and china have opposed any type of international pressure in the in the form of sanctions instead referring to kofi annan six point peace plan and fully supporting that so of course these statements coming from a top u.n. official declaring civil war in syria can be a game changer within the security council in the days ahead you h

conflict she was appointed the u.n. undersecretary general for humanitarian affairs nearly two years ago. and welcome to the show thank you very much for being with us so well my first question is about your recent visit to syria as far as i understand you visited syria in march two thousand and twelve on behalf of the u.n. and you tried to persuade the syrian government i'm quoting the words to allow access to all parts of syria to help people affected by the civil conflict well has any progress has any progress been made since then and what's the problem in that all the afraid of something i mean not letting you in we have made some progress but it's been slow after my visits the syrian authorities agree that they would lead and assessment mission to try to find out exactly what the scale of the problem was we accompany them with colleagues. from the organization for islamic cooperation the oh i see we identified at that time that we thought about a million people needed help the i.c.r.c. the international committee o

since then, the u.n. and others have found growing evidence of abuses and possible war crimes by sri lanka forces and tiger forces. now a draft report given to the bbc concludes there was a grave failure of the u.n. in the final months of war to the detriment of hundreds of thousands of civilians. it says in the capital columbo, many senior u.n. staff did not perceive the prevention of the killing of civilians as their responsibility, and they weren't being instructed to do otherwise from new york. this wasn't a peacekeeping mission. when the government launched its final assault in the north, warning u.n. aid workers it could not guarantee their safety, the u.n. pulled out. the report says the u.n. never questioned the government. bing minute dix was part of the team told to go. >> as a humanitarian worker, questions were running through my mind of what is this all about? isn't this what we signed up to do? we are here to protect and prevent these things. >> cam else left outside the u.n. compound. hundr

the u.n. security council to assume their resonsibilities. the searing crisis is and will remain very high on the e.u. agenda. the e.u. foreign ministers will discuss it again on the 27th of february. the e.u. has thrown out the conflict by the syrian people and the high representative continues to increase pressure on the syrian authorities through multiple levels. the priority for now is to stop the regimes repression and the escalating violence. in accordance with the arab league's plan, it is also a sense is that there's political detainees, remove troops, tanks and weapons from the cities and allow independent observance in the media to freely travel and report in syria. to this end the e.u. is intensively engaged with the league of arab states and other players to find a peaceful solution. the higher the percentage high stress a key role of regional involvement inarab league leadership. on the diplomatic front ashton has been seeking to secretary general to discuss next steps and express

should we be involved in the u.n.? should we fund the u.n.? and i've tried to keep a balanced view where i haven't voted to leave the u.n., but i have -- been skeptical about the role it plays. keep current funding. get reforms. some of the things the u.n. has done. cuba was vice president of the united nations human rights council and china, russia and saudi arabia also serve on that council. north korea and cuba serve as head of the conference on disarmament. mugabe was just named a u.n. leader for tourism by the u.n. world trade organization. iran sits on the u.n. commission on the status of women, and formerly chaired the board of the u.n. development program and the u.n. population fund. saudi arabia is a member of the executive board of u.n. women. and so that's -- i'm not making this up. and you can't. but -- i mean that is a concern. and there's also been some international debate and discourse about having a world organization based upon shared values. democracy, freedom, rule of law. things that would make this process a little bit e

boats to actually to the subject of conditions well the u.n. says that the deployment of the humanitarian aid there is a very slow because of the conditions of the masses so what can you say that these can or what are those conditions what what are these conditions about i mean the damascus ok. our team in country have been negotiating on a number of things one is as i say the importance of being able to to go and talk to anyone that we need to. and get the aid to anyone that we need to secondly that it's important that all aid is not channeled through the syrian arab red crescent they have capacity but that capacity is being stretched russia itself for example sentences made that had to be delivered through the syrian arab red crescent the international committee of the red cross red crescent societies they're sending in aid that is being delivered by the syrian arab red crescent they're doing their own work on the ground we from the u.n. are also using that capacity so there comes a point where that capacity is so stretched that they're not a

u.n. secretary general made the proposals when he met the syrian president on march 10th and 11th in attempt to end the country's violent crackdown on anti-government protesters. u.n. sources say he called for two hour ceasefire daily to make humanitarian assistance possible and for syria to accept a u.n. team to monitor the ceasefire. he also reportedly proposed a ban on use of heavy firearms. syria has so far agreed to accept u.n. experts. >>> syria's u.n. ambassador stressed his country's cooperation. >> mr. kofi annan assured the members of the security council that the syrian government that they are engaged with him. >> whether they will allow the ideas to be implemented remains to be seen. western nations are pushing for a new resolution to support annan's efforts. they are expected to step up negotiations russia and china, which twice vetoed resolutions condemning syria's repression. >>> a militant group linked to al qaeda is taking advantage of the chaos in yemen. gunmen shot and

also, the u.n. it discourages some governments but in the sense when we borrow the troops we pay thousands of dollars per man per woman for their service. it cost the government support to five times were eight times as much. >> host: we will get over to bosnia and just a second. but in a sense, what you described in somalia and rwanda get to the heart of what is written about. in the sense that there is no -- the times when u.n. peacekeepers are needed or call four, are related to the times when a superpower doesn't feel that it is in its key interest to intervene. but they've always be seen in a slightly marginal aspect of national security interest. can it ever work when these countries feel that it's not something they have to intervene for? >> guest: uri. before the collapse of the war, when gorbachev ended the system, we have a situation where most of the peacekeepers came from countries outside the security council. because there was a thing that you may politicize the operations. after 1989,