i grew up in a small community in charleston, west virginia, and the people of our community, many of which left an indelible impression on my life. i think so many times we don't realize we don't have to be famous to be somebody's hero. >> larry: what to you is a hero? >> somebody who gives themselves selflessly for the needs of others. no game. and yet, thir the tremendous sacrifice made. i think they're made out of different fabric. >> larry: more than someone who hits .320 or scores touchdowns? >> right. i think it's much bigger than that. >> larry: why is it important for people to have heroes do you think? >> i think it's important. it gives us something to aspire to and it gives us a source of inspiration. it gives us some measurement whereby we can measure ourselves and something that we hope to attain. many of us may in fact be heroes. we don't know it until the crisis comes how we would react. >> larry: correct. the foxhole. >> exactly. >> larry: how many people be heroes to other, do you think? >> first of all, listening and looking for needs, and just responding to those n