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Let's go ahead and call the order our work
session for May tenth two thousand and

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sixteen our first regularly scheduled
work session very excited.

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Tracy can we have. Absolutely Donahue
you know Hoffman Pollack say are

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wasted and that we don't know if. We just

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have the work session but I guess that is
our agenda for tonight just talk about

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the work session for the.
Transit from the transit.

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Transit Center thank you yes so I have

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a cold and I've taken some cold
medicine so please bear with me. As I

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say the words that are
incorrect. So is there

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a motion to approve the agenda.

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All in favor say aye and he opposed OK

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Jenna's approved and we'll move into our
work session which is the transit update

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and Amy Johnson who's the chair of the
transit task force is here tonight to give

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us an update Lou Everybody everybody should
have a packet in front of them that is

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a lovely color purple and blue.
Within the document are the previous

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recommendations that I presented several
weeks ago and that got approved by the

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council there have been there are
some updates to that based on

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a meeting or two that have
happened and there are

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a couple things I want to go over with you
guys. In terms of the recommendations I

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won't go through all of those again because
you guys already approved it but they

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are documented on the
first. Two pages of the

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powerpoint So the updates. Are related
to this and I will summarize but

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you can read in detail as we go through.
If we go ahead with the fixed route

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service we need to either open it up to
paratransit writers or offer parallel

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paratransit service this presents a
slight problem in a schedule but from

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a schedule perspective that can be adjusted
you know we had originally said we

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would do four hours during the week midday
ish is what the plan was so you know in

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talking about the schedule
component of it as

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a group we determine that we think that
we could kind of mediate the schedule

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a little bit to try to help counteract
any writers or paratransit writers

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paratransit writers tend to pose a
problem in the sense that it takes

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a little bit longer to get them kind of
on the bus and situated and get their you

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know their belongings kind of secured and
things like that so it requires the help

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of the driver the driver has to get off
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whereas

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a regular pick up you know you just open
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adds

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a little more time to it but the committee
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with an adjusted schedule just

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a little bit and be able to kind of manage
and then we would modify you know we

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kind of look at what we had in the first
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then determine if we needed to adjust
it one way or the other to kind of

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accommodate that So from

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a schedule perspective we were comfortable
making adjustments to the schedule to

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handle the paratransit service from
that aspect. And then actually I

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apologize there's a and to present this
here so we the option was to reconsider

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a dollar responsive service system
that would provide in-town service for

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paratransit and non paratransit Reivers
in which case no additional service would

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be required in the seats
dispatcher would simply schedule

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a proper amount of time for

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a paratransit pick up so we could
offer. I apologize I'm missing

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something here so. That if
we have can I go ahead.

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If we offer a original
thought was to I to offer

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a fixed route system in town only
as you recall and. I are only Asli

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thought that because we were hiring seats
to do this and we had already have some

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seat service that we wouldn't be required
to to to go further than than what we

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already have but in talking with the state
officials transportation officials that

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turned out to be not to not be
true so whatever time we supply

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a nine eighty eight compliant service
we also have to supply an eighty eight

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complaints service so if we do

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a fixed route. And we are
not picking up the seats

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type passenger the
pre-approved because they have

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a disability passenger
then we have to have

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a second bus offering service to
those folks the reason that it's

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difficult to pick people up on a
fixed route eighty eight folks on

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a fixed route is because it takes

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a very long time to get them you know the
driver has to get out of the bus go up to

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the home many times assist them to getting
to the bus on the bus strapped and if

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they happen to be in

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a wheelchair settled and everything that
can take twenty minutes so you can you can

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see that that would really kill us on

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a fixed route because we know you can
build extra time into the fixed route and

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that's what we were talking about doing for
the deviated route you build some extra

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time in so the bus ends up having to
sit certain places over time maybe for

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a few minutes but what that does is allow
you to deviate from the route once in

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a while when you have a
special call for nine eighty

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a customers stop me if if and
when I stop making sense so yes.

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So is it that you have to pick up folks
you have to have an eighty accessible.

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Bus on the fixed route and that meets
the requirement no providing an eighty

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a service during the same timeframe but
specifically door to door yes so it's

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not about picking up

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a DA folks it's about going to their home
and taking them to their destination Yes

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youths not just as simple as being

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a compliant vehicle on the fixed route
right yes that's correct OK because all

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of the seats buses are

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a compliant so if the if that was the
deal then yeah we wouldn't have this

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particular issue. To have our fixed route
bus plus another bus that could take care

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of any car paratransit writers that would
come and take them now the interesting

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part about that second bus is in that
scenario is that it wouldn't come here unless

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there were calls for service use the

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fixed rate and deviated we're paying whatever
contracted prices to provide that for

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our service if we if we contract for for
our service plus have seeds provide

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service it's the perpetrator cost of

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a thousand dollars or whatever it is OK
Yes And and some of this is you know will

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be subject to negotiation and you know

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a formal contract between us and Ray and
see slice the county event yeah that's

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that's generally how it would work.
What it amounts to is we pay actual

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cost for seats service. And
whether you Bill it out by

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the rider by the hour it's going to work
out it's going to work out to be about

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same either way. We don't get called we
don't have to use it we don't have to pay

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for it it sounds like we have to pay for
it no matter what So again the two main I

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think that I think again if I can just
cut it summarize I think our two main

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options are we provide. With one bus

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a service that will pick anybody up at
any time it can't be that it would just

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simply not be able to be affixed route
it would have to be some kind of

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a dial responsive with
some elements of. You

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know it's supposed to say charter in the
in the in this world but some elements of

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being able to handle groups if they meet
certain criteria like elderly. And low

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income and there's another one I can't quite
figure out so that would be one option

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you have one bus and it's running around
doing dial responsive it also might do

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from time to time prearranged trips
where maybe the senior senior lunch has

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a has some kind of a deal
where it goes out makes

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a special trip and picks up everybody up
for senior lunches and drops them off then

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goes back to do and responsive but it would
be one bus doing that the other option

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that the committee is recommending to you
is to stick with the fixed route and the

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deviated fixed route which means you
schedule of extra time in so you can deviate

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off the route to pick people up
who have called in but not eighty

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a service for that fixed route and in
addition to that do the the extra hours

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of regular seats service to match it

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but then have the secondary bus available
for anybody who calls in so that we can

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still maintain the fixed route that
we originally presented for expanding

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and same here almost that first A or B.

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Ammo seems to me it's like on one taxi
service so after all of us call the next

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five minutes we're all waiting then because
whoever called First is going first.

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For hours in advance OK OK So if we all
called tonight for tomorrow yes. It

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would probably they would schedule

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a route with their driver and they would
probably if you all needed to go at the

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same time of we all need to go at the same
time they would tell us we'll Dean we'll

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get to you at two o'clock A.M.

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And Kevin to all five in Rye and two ten
and so they'd have it all scheduled out

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until when they'd be there approximately
is this something you think it's I guess I

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mean I know you have several more science
if you want to keep going. To kind of

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pilot to see how this works and maybe you
know kind of keep the dialogue going

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ending and that was our original plan anyway
when we presented is that we did want

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to prove we wanted to pilot this number
before this information came up we did want

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to pilot just for a number
of hours in the reevaluation

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a couple of months with the services available
and then determine what adjustments

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do to me but at that point so I think that
aspect of it wouldn't change and then.

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Standpoint I mean you know but realistically
will have this year that we're not

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going to expend much of the money that
we have budgeted for this year so in the

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next year that would generally be your
general what we're planning on spending it

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was fifty thousand dollars so the risk
being that you know now right now there's

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not

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a lot of people who ride seats generally you
know but now we'll expand that opportunity

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in the middle of day so you may get

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a lot more people so my thought on
that being though is that there's

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a lot more people who are writing seats
in the middle of day they probably needed

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it we just weren't able to do it now so
so we're you know when and if they really

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want it we they we be hearing about it
but you know they would say hey you know

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we're pretty up like forty people in the
Liberty between ten and two every day and

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they're not so so it's just

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a matter of. I kind of roll the dice and
see what happens but I think you won't

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learn anything from about

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a fixed route if that's going to be feasible
without doing it and then the other

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thing would have to see what happens but
financially that would be we did the math

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it's like three thousand rides or
something. So like last pagers it seems

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like I I felt it was important to give you

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a worst case scenario so
if if if we if if the if

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there was

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a call to see every single day or multiple
calls and we had to use the the same

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four hours of service or seats that we do
that we're offering the fix grouted be

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about fifty eight or nine thousand
dollars more than all the other transit

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expenses that we have
today. Story. You know

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last time it was calculated
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a couple but it month usually. Know the one
or week there are more than that there

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is surprising number of but. But
nonetheless it's there as as

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a councillor waste and
said are opening up quite

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a bit more time and some of the comments
I got from their staff was that they do

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hear

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a lot of their riders say and they wish
that they had more service during the day

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so I think we could reasonably count on
some additional ridership I just don't it's

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unfortunately it's an unknown there's no
way we can know before we try it what

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might happen and indeed something
like There's only two pickups

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a day or there are actually three there's
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to match our service that we currently
provide with the coral Bill transit when

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there's one in the mid day that's
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day care services or so as

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a group but it's basically something like
If you get picked up in the more on the

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morning one. You can't be brought back until
whatever the next one is so folks are

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finding there's this gap and it's just not
realistic yes at least what I'm hearing

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yes so then after we get past this
bigger question. It's bigger.

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I'm sorry go ahead. So we kind of talked
about it in the sense of the number of

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levels in the service that we provide for
the alternate service is that you know we

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knew that we provided the one hour in the
middle of the day plus the morning and

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the evening we wanted we felt that the
Cadillac of options would be to still

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provide the morning and evening
to copy what you know our core of

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a route which is not currently going away
and then still offer the four hours the

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whole four hours that's comparable to the
in town route that we have and provided

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as an out of town service like it currently
is for the one hour in the middle of

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the day that was the most attractive
alternative that was the most attractive plan

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to everybody on the committee is that we
didn't want to degrade what people had we

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didn't want to lower their options for
the middle of the day and if we could we

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wanted to actually increase their
opportunities. To go outside of town if they

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needed to and so to me or that ten to two
time frame that we were talking about for

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the for the in town service. One
caveat to that now is that.

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Seats would like us to purchase an additional
bus this is information that has come

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up just recently and they would like
there's an idea actually the D.O.T.

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Encouraged us to apply for a
system start up costs and there's

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a grant out there that's available to do
that. But the bus wouldn't actually be

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owned by the city of North Liberty it would
be long to seats. And I'm not going to

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lie and Dinos I'm going to say this I am
not an advocate for the city of North

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Liberty purchasing another vehicle that
doesn't belong to them so I don't know what

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our options are in terms of that I imagine
doing that there is some negotiation

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that could be made available in terms of
how that works or I don't know if we need

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to go back and determine alternate
option or ask for an alternate

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option. Even if you just did
the fixed route for hours and

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stayed in town stayed in town and you know
just this is just if we went out of town

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to the both now not only do we need the
one bus to provide the fixed route but we

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need to have

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a second bus so they'd have and they just
don't have that much rolling stock now

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they are there willing to provide it for

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a year so if we if we did
the fixed route that

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was a hybrid that also did the DA
response which makes it not really

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a fixed route if there's enough demand
for it you wouldn't need to buy

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a bus right well and I think he does
that apply to if we decide to offer the

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service for four hours but it has to
stay in town yes because they still have

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a second bus right so that was some of the
committee discussion I think was in the

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summary page there are

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a number of ways we could go about that
extra seat service it could be restricted

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to stay in town but. But that
wasn't the committee thought that

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seats writers are used to being able to go
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it made more sense to offer that same
service. We discussed was which I

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think would be slightly incredibly confusing
is to to keep the out of town service

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in the morning one hour midday and then
in the evening and then only offer the

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comparable in town service for the for the
four hours that we are for are in town

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service so you'd still they wouldn't be
losing anything because they'd still have

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the morning one hour midday and one hour
evening which is what there is today but I

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think it would be incredibly confusing for
people to try to determine whether or

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not between the hours of ten ten A.M.

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And two pm I have to stay in town except
for this one hour between noon and one or

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whatever it is so that that's still an
option but we felt that might be confusing

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it would be hard to get the message
out on exactly how that worked

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because if they were going from their
house to the rec center it was eighteen

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dollars that there is no way i'm our house
go to the university it was it really

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comes down to the time and and yeah you
know the last little monkey wrench to

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throw in here and believe me we're just
skimming the top of all the many many

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details but the last thing is for you
to know is that. On the on their

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union contracts require two hour.
Service bands so if someone

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leaves their office with

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a dial responsive call and they come up to
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they go back it's two hours

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schedule as knew what they needed to compact
things Sure sure they were like oh I

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got somebody at ten o'clock or two o'clock
ten o'clock and then you know no I think

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I feel that they're very good at that I
mean that's what they do is try to get as

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many people. Rises there was

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a he said there's just no way to know
what's going to happen but I think we can

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tend to set out a figure out maybe
a writer ship trigger Richard

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a lot of people and I think really we can
say maybe we really need to do it so we

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don't think there's

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a risk reward with every option it just
depends on how high you want your risk of

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be versus your reward I mean we the committee
totally felt that we should offer the

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most we could possibly offer. So that you
know we were really not only would it be

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helpful to communicate the new service and
get people on board and get people to

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try it out it also expanded what
we currently have and it was

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a bigger offer than what we originally
thought to be able to do that but the

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addition of the bus was something
we were anticipating. Everard's.

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Rights are. I'm sorry I don't

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have that but I'd be happy to run to get
it it will take me but five minutes if

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you'd like to continue the
discussion Mike and I

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don't mind at all. Be sure to go back.

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About. These three options good
better and best and it was

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I think everyone was really in agreement
that if we were going to go into this week

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we should probably go ahead and roll out
the best. Especially since the cost to

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stay in town was the same
as the cost to try to. Dial

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a city or Coronel Realistically I
don't think I'll bake an issue but

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monetarily wise or budget
wise for probably out of

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a budget cycle you know but if if

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a lot of people ride the bus you know and
odd times like in seats in the middle of

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day you know that's something I don't want
to figure and talk about next fall for

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the next year so hopefully go on at
the same time with the regular seats

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per room. Where do most of their contacts
come because I could see they were

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from. Maybe

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a down period of like people who doctors
appointments are like that. That's

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that's just I have nothing to prove and
that's why I want you there is no way to

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figure that out until we try you have to
say right but you have to consider you I

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mean and I'm speaking from the case that I
have two children that love to go to the

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pool in the afternoon and it would be
awesome if they could just jump on the bus

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and take themselves to the rec center
because they're old enough to be there by

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themselves and then mom and dad could just
pick them up after work and that would

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be fine but I think you're
going to you could see

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a lot of younger writers ship especially
during the summertime in that after lunch

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period to so the only the only concern
when we had our meeting with the committee

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this is we we came forward and said we
wanted to offer the most that we could

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possibly offer at the time of the meeting
we weren't aware of the request to get

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the additional bus and so
to me that is a bit of

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a concern because not something that we
had originally accounted for when we had

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the conversation others asked not owning
the bus I guess because and we can get it

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at

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a cheaper rate or cheaper. Price if they
buy it through their purchasing contractor

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so. Just from

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a metric standpoint kind of means you asked
average ridership now but then also are

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we tracking beyond the times location
and then also what people are

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requesting it for is that

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a good data point at the communities
thought about or consider well the the bus

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itself would document you know stops and
locations through that natural There's

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a. A box or something other bus that
would take care of that we wouldn't

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necessarily be able to know where people
came from but we would be able to it now

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for the ones where we go pick them up at
the house we know where they came from and

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we know where they dropped off because the
bus is going to walk about However for

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the for the fixed route portion of the
service we would only know that you know we

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had stopped at each of these locations and
we did ask seats if they could kind of

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keep

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a count of you know at least for the first
little while of how many people they picked

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up each day or at least each week I picked
up ten people of the stop this week and

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twenty people of the stop that type of
thing so good at least gauge how much

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ridership there was the committee members
also felt that when the service got

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started that we ourselves would write it
and try to help keep track of who is doing

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and just kind of watch for ourselves kind
of what was going on and then be able to

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report from a you know from

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a just observing point of view to try to
get the numbers that yeah I'm totally

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That's totally it. The average monthly
number rights is around sixty eight on this

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seat service so the average annual cost for
the city is about twenty five thousand

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and is that for the morning went to lunch
time and one in the US So yeah I imagine

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there would be

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a huge increase if we started offering for
four straight hours outside of town but

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it's like you know fraction
per day for five days we

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just roll the dice as
far as what time of day

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there's

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a good dual party goes to do all. Because
some days may have been some days might

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help early when you don't just depends on
what that person's needs are I think the

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time of year is going to make

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a difference to you know start
agree with you. In your life.

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RIGHT HERE and HERE and HERE. Qualify
to use the seat service you have

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to qualify and. Recall right now all
of Korra Bill transit doesn't go so we

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keep it that way. It seems to be working
OK I asked them about that when I

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visited with the seat staff and they said
it seemed to be I mean it's not easy to

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qualify so it's not just a you know

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a giveaway for example they can
you know yes. We have here

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before we have to make the bus purchase
there is also the possibility I'm

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a very positive thinking person
that there's going to be

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a huge People are really going to want
to do it and the city may decide for

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themselves at that point you know what
we're just going to take over the service

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ourselves and provide it as

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a whole and not rely on seats and
then you may want to purchase

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a bus yourself at that point to it there
is always that it doesn't necessary just

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to Kaviak to your risk reward wait to
determine whether or not you wanted to do

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that so because you it's nice that you do
have the your time to make that decision

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and it's not immediate but you know I know

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a lot of that also depends on the
core bill bust situation to that

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so I appreciate you guys letting me come
here and I really just wanted to give you

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all the information that we had just
recently learned based and then the

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recommendations that we have so from this
point Dean I'm not exactly sure what our

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next steps are

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a direction from council that's what we're
really looking for. The committee feels

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like they've made the recommendation
to proceed with the fixed route and

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the extra seat service the
estimated you know like

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a worst case again the estimated. Financial
impact is on the last page of the of

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the handout So everybody has their eyes
wide open entering into it. And so.

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Now if that's the way I'd like to go we'll
start working more closely with seats to

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develop

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a contract of sorts and and set up the
service otherwise will regroup and take

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on whatever alternative you'd like us
to discuss rather go for the money.

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Just take the seats ridership there are
other seats ridership will just take off

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incredibly expensive way but we won't know
that and we're not looks right now we're

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OK for now you know while
yourself here we have to agree to

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a certain period of time what if in first
month we had three hundred writers.

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On the the the seats portions of our
response coming back out at that point.

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I think so I think we're going to go shake
the contract that way they seem to be

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Tom Brady seems to be very very easy to
work with every it seems like every time I

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ask him a question like that he says yes
so I think that it's I think there's

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a good possibility
London buses some. Girls

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or you don't know differently I was
talking about the eighteen dollars

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a person right or ship that worst
case scenario and that remember is.

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This is fifty fifty fifty eight now
and. What assumptions the Jews did so

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is it that they can only take up

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a certain number of people in those hours
so it really doesn't matter the number of

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people because it's only four hours yes
they would grant as many people as they can

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into those four hours it.
Is like twenty seven

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hundred rides play havoc and
so so I think it would be

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pretty I think we're OK.

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Shines Yeah I think. They
are and what we I think

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collectively. Discussed here
what to do you have provided

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a recommendation from the entire committee
I think as soon as we can get it started

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in the stairwell now so I think with the
contracting it going and I would love to

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see almost monthly data report and then
maybe after two or three months have you

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come back or kind of see what the committee
thinks but it would just be nice to try

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to dig into the details as soon as possible
clar budget cycle will be here before

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we know it so thanks for all your work.

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Thank you and. Really on
the committee too so.

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It's

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a lot to be said for that. Thank
You can thank you so much. But

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I was perfect timing we wrapped up the
work session right about six thirty so we

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can get the regular meeting started now.
And then the first thing we'll do is

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approve the consent agenda
as their motion to approve.

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Favor of approving the consent agenda say
I enter your post OK consent Jenna's

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approved and now we have

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a public comment if there's anyone here
tonight that wishes to address the council

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go ahead and come up to the microphone

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that will come up in a little
bit but you're welcome to make

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a comment if you want to. Good

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evening thank you for giving us just

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a minute or two to speak to you I'm Tina
Dubois the outgoing director of the north

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of body community Pantra pantry
sorry and then kill Rome will speak

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a little bit for herself as the incoming
director of the North Liberty Community

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pantry and I just wanted to say thank you
to the city council and the city staff

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for all of the support that has come to
help the pantry throughout my tenure at the

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pantry I remember many years ago in the
old building when Natalie Wilkerson asked

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for the first funding for the pantry and
at that point Gerry Cahill had done the

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math and he said I can't remember what she's
asking for but he said I did the math

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and that was only whatever cents per visit
or something and he actually moved that

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the donation to the pantry be higher
than what we had requested and there was

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a unanimous decision to provide that funding
so I remember back to that and just

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the overwhelming support that we've had
from the city staff and elected officials

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throughout my eleven years of tenure at
the pantry all the way to when we were

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building our building and I know that the
city wanted to support that project and

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being able to provide
the refrigeration for

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a walk in freezer it doesn't say the city
I'm there but keep in mind that I know

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that that is the city walk in freezer so.
Also the growing together garden you also

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supported that very
directly it's we've got

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a year under our belt we're just beginning
the second year of that project it

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really is

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a wonderful project that's bringing together
the community and teaching people how

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to eat healthy foods and provide healthy
foods to those in the community that

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couldn't necessarily afford to purchase
them all the way to last Friday's several

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cities staffing counselors and. I mean
Mayor Nielsen also attended our golf

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tournaments so we appreciate the support
on all fronts that you've provided last

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year we gave out almost three hundred
thousand pounds of food and toiletries about

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thirteen thousand clothing items we had
about eleven thousand hours of volunteer

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time dedicated and none of that would have
been possible without the city support

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that we've received so I just want to say
thank you my name's Kayla room I am the

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new incoming directors mentioned I am
just really fortunate to have this

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opportunity and I look forward to working
with all of you in the partnership that I

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know has been ongoing for
many years as there's

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a lot of success that she leaves behind
and I plan on continuing that as North

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Liberty grows I plan on doing my best to
meet the needs of this growing community

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so far everyone has been really
receptive and again I met

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a couple of you the other day and I can
already tell that this community is really

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supportive we look at moving forward and
continuing to increase to meet the need as

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00:34:58,19 --> 00:35:04,26
well as increasing the success of the
garden and hopefully setting some higher

430
00:35:04,27 --> 00:35:10,49
goals as far as continuing to encourage
families to make healthy choices increase

431
00:35:10,50 --> 00:35:13,81
the amount of fresh produce they're getting
per visit those are some goals that

432
00:35:13,82 --> 00:35:17,24
we're already starting to set so hopefully
you guys can continue us on this journey

433
00:35:17,25 --> 00:35:22,57
and continue to support the pantry so much

434
00:35:40,14 --> 00:35:46,85
that. You know dedication to the

435
00:35:46,86 --> 00:35:52,66
pantry and for growing it I don't think
anyone thought that it would be as big and

436
00:35:53,11 --> 00:35:58,90
and needed as it is today and you know
serving being sure that we can serve

437
00:35:58,91 --> 00:35:59,67
everybody as

438
00:35:59,68 --> 00:36:03,10
a direct result of your hard work so thank
you very much for everything that you've

439
00:36:03,11 --> 00:36:09,12
done and Kayla I'm sure that you will be
successful as well. Will be here to help

440
00:36:09,95 --> 00:36:16,74
thank you oh is there anyone else
that would like to address the

441
00:36:16,75 --> 00:36:22,67
council right. Now OK

442
00:36:36,98 --> 00:36:41,79
My name is Rose USA or I've spoken to you
on the phone where you live I live at

443
00:36:41,80 --> 00:36:46,76
forty five more stores three quarter of
Penn where there was recently an accident

444
00:36:47,55 --> 00:36:50,06
to the loss of a friend and

445
00:36:50,07 --> 00:36:54,27
a crossing guard we're
here today on behalf of

446
00:36:54,98 --> 00:36:59,79
a lot of the citizens in the city of North
Liberty that that intersection needs to

447
00:36:59,80 --> 00:37:02,26
have a stoplight or

448
00:37:02,36 --> 00:37:09,23
a four way stop it's I we have lived
there for nine years and for nine years

449
00:37:09,42 --> 00:37:14,27
I've watched people with children
on their bicycles because we have

450
00:37:14,28 --> 00:37:19,45
a wonderful bicycle path that comes right
through there you can't cross that street

451
00:37:19,87 --> 00:37:20,04
on

452
00:37:20,05 --> 00:37:25,64
a bicycle path I mean on that street with
the bicycles with your kids I've seen kids

453
00:37:25,65 --> 00:37:31,02
coming kids are now starting to come from
Fox Run to take their bikes to go to the

454
00:37:31,03 --> 00:37:32,46
pool in the summer with

455
00:37:32,47 --> 00:37:37,68
a towel they can't cross many times I've
looked out the window and around at the

456
00:37:37,69 --> 00:37:43,57
door to help people cross week I can't even
tell you guys have the numbers I'm sure

457
00:37:43,58 --> 00:37:47,96
of how many accidents that occur
my kids and I we don't even

458
00:37:47,97 --> 00:37:53,10
a lot of times get up to look at me more
another accident you hear the sirens or

459
00:37:53,69 --> 00:38:00,50
somebody hit somebody and I have
called the city. Sense probably the

460
00:38:00,51 --> 00:38:05,99
first month that we lived here about this
intersection I used to call Penn about

461
00:38:06,00 --> 00:38:11,93
there I work there now I know these
kids I know the little girl who saw the

462
00:38:11,97 --> 00:38:17,92
accident it could have been her I helped
three kids cross that street and saw that

463
00:38:17,93 --> 00:38:20,03
crossing guard laying there there was

464
00:38:20,04 --> 00:38:27,00
a bus load of children that saw her
get hit and the thing is is it can be

465
00:38:27,01 --> 00:38:33,28
them and these Innes not just I mean
there was an older couple right in there

466
00:38:33,29 --> 00:38:40,06
bicycle across that street on Sunday mid
afternoon four o'clock and they had

467
00:38:40,07 --> 00:38:45,16
a hard time crossing many accidents I've
gone up to the people and said please call

468
00:38:45,17 --> 00:38:49,03
the city let the city you know
what's going on there needs to be

469
00:38:49,04 --> 00:38:56,00
a change. Because our concerns are not
just about Paula Deen who is dead

470
00:38:56,06 --> 00:39:02,41
or no main who died but it
is the outcome of the city's

471
00:39:02,64 --> 00:39:07,35
dragging their feet on managing the traffic
at that intersection and there's been

472
00:39:07,36 --> 00:39:12,52
plenty of heads ups plenty of accidents
plenty of calls plenty of requests and

473
00:39:12,53 --> 00:39:17,87
there's always one oh we can't do it because
of this we can't do it because of that

474
00:39:18,21 --> 00:39:22,51
how many people have to die it's not just
about her though it's about the whole

475
00:39:22,52 --> 00:39:27,96
intersection and the management of the
traffic flow that's the feeder street to the

476
00:39:27,97 --> 00:39:32,61
interstate that is the feeder
street to nine sixty five that is

477
00:39:32,62 --> 00:39:37,77
a busy street it needs to be managed with
more than two stop signs and the people

478
00:39:37,95 --> 00:39:42,11
from Stuart north and Stuart south trying
to cross over they wait for their whole.

479
00:39:43,45 --> 00:39:44,32
Time driving

480
00:39:44,33 --> 00:39:51,09
a time don't you know and then you make it
but not everybody makes it plain fender

481
00:39:51,10 --> 00:39:56,24
benders. This substitute
crossing guard got hit by

482
00:39:56,25 --> 00:40:00,12
a bicycle the same thing
somebody else. It's just

483
00:40:00,13 --> 00:40:05,93
a free for all so this is about it is
about Paula but it is also about the

484
00:40:05,94 --> 00:40:11,49
management of the traffic in that intersection
and what's going on that's fine for

485
00:40:11,50 --> 00:40:15,17
our country we've got a gravel
road a tractor it's not fine for

486
00:40:15,18 --> 00:40:21,89
a busy it's interstates if so it's

487
00:40:21,90 --> 00:40:28,82
time to quit giving excuses and make
something happen that's appropriate for that

488
00:40:28,83 --> 00:40:34,01
intersection and the substitute
crossing guard got hit twice on Friday.

489
00:40:36,04 --> 00:40:40,84
One guy was on his phone the A woman just
drove through I also when Paula was there

490
00:40:41,70 --> 00:40:45,20
I mean I would talk to her
countless times this is not

491
00:40:45,21 --> 00:40:50,66
a lady who rushed out into the street she
was cautious and I called you guys for

492
00:40:50,67 --> 00:40:56,59
Paula I actually called this the police
department the car will come by they're so

493
00:40:56,60 --> 00:40:57,86
busy they come by sit for

494
00:40:57,87 --> 00:41:03,42
a few minutes and they're on their way the
thing is I work with kids all day I've

495
00:41:03,43 --> 00:41:08,02
done the recess at Penn and I can guarantee
you if you guys want to take those kids

496
00:41:08,03 --> 00:41:12,61
down to that other four way stop ninety
five percent of them are not going to go

497
00:41:13,08 --> 00:41:15,100
they're going to run and they're
going to go but that's just

498
00:41:16,01 --> 00:41:22,92
a small portion we still have the bicycle
kids we have the people that are going to

499
00:41:22,93 --> 00:41:29,21
over to pizza plus from this side and
traffic to easily overwhelming traffic yeah

500
00:41:29,72 --> 00:41:32,48
you all live here so you
know that that's not

501
00:41:32,49 --> 00:41:37,66
a surprise to anyone and I'm sure we just
don't want any more death we don't want

502
00:41:37,72 --> 00:41:44,16
any more hurt she should not have not she
should not have been never no this should

503
00:41:44,17 --> 00:41:49,79
not have happened and the fact I don't
want to hear the sun was in his eyes you

504
00:41:49,80 --> 00:41:52,80
know there's there's signs that says it's

505
00:41:52,81 --> 00:41:58,05
a cross walk. Then the bottom line is
it's like people and the other thing is

506
00:41:58,06 --> 00:42:02,81
nobody drives one five on that except for
I do because it makes me so mad nobody

507
00:42:02,82 --> 00:42:07,46
else does and I will I mean this morning
I looked out and I swear somebody was

508
00:42:07,47 --> 00:42:12,28
going about fifty miles an hour and come
summer you hear the boat's bottom may not

509
00:42:12,29 --> 00:42:18,28
borne out like that bright speed bumps
would be great I'd be all for speed and

510
00:42:18,29 --> 00:42:24,86
a four way stop something because when
we just can't was another citizen

511
00:42:25,30 --> 00:42:30,82
right now people kind of know they have
to grab their whole and jump through fast

512
00:42:31,28 --> 00:42:35,72
so if there was I mean lights would
be ideal I understand there's

513
00:42:35,73 --> 00:42:39,12
a hierarchy of steps before
you get to lights but

514
00:42:39,29 --> 00:42:45,04
a four way stop can't be that hard to
implement Yes traffic will back up but

515
00:42:46,48 --> 00:42:52,78
nobody maybe will die. And the thing is
something has got to control it so that

516
00:42:52,79 --> 00:42:57,83
when people come to that intersection they
know their turn is coming I don't have

517
00:42:57,84 --> 00:43:03,08
to jump into the whole I don't have to read
it and shoot across the intersection to

518
00:43:03,09 --> 00:43:05,86
make my turn is coming if there's at least

519
00:43:05,87 --> 00:43:11,66
a four way side and I think like I told you
because we're doing the construction on

520
00:43:11,67 --> 00:43:18,67
nine sixty five I actually saw this black
pickup truck got tired of waiting and

521
00:43:18,68 --> 00:43:25,62
he went up onto the sidewalk by pizza plus
drove his truck on the sidewalk to Penn

522
00:43:25,63 --> 00:43:29,23
street to get on Penn and he
did that the couple days in

523
00:43:29,24 --> 00:43:36,06
a row and that's when I saw it and. Told
me that before you got there before the

524
00:43:36,07 --> 00:43:40,27
city had opened up Dubuque
street right there there was

525
00:43:40,31 --> 00:43:44,74
a three way stop so and my husband is

526
00:43:44,75 --> 00:43:51,45
a Fed Ex driver for over thirty
eight years and he is. It's

527
00:43:51,49 --> 00:43:54,65
perfect driving record and
he'll tell you that is

528
00:43:54,66 --> 00:44:00,48
a horrible intersection to go out I generally
go all the way around I won't go but

529
00:44:00,70 --> 00:44:07,57
I have two kids and you know what I think
happens to my kids I can't tell you how I

530
00:44:07,58 --> 00:44:11,03
won't be so composed I will NOT

531
00:44:11,04 --> 00:44:17,46
a threat but it's just or any of
the kids that are out there and

532
00:44:19,91 --> 00:44:26,73
tell us what we need to do to help this if
you guys want to petition I'm there I'll

533
00:44:26,74 --> 00:44:30,85
go and get how many ever citizens we have
in this town something needs to be done

534
00:44:30,86 --> 00:44:35,23
though it cannot be just pushed under the
rug again especially was school has come

535
00:44:35,24 --> 00:44:36,96
a long term problem and it's been

536
00:44:36,97 --> 00:44:43,59
a good and special school coming up I know
parents that are telling me one woman I

537
00:44:43,61 --> 00:44:48,21
work with her kids live in Fox Run and
the boys want to ride their bikes third

538
00:44:48,22 --> 00:44:54,16
grade she says no you can't ride your bikes
to school it's not safe and she doesn't

539
00:44:54,17 --> 00:44:57,98
know what she's going to do because they
don't have the money to come up with to

540
00:44:57,99 --> 00:45:04,03
pay for the bus scene but she doesn't
feel safe for her boys to walk so

541
00:45:05,55 --> 00:45:11,93
we can't lose any children. That

542
00:45:11,94 --> 00:45:17,14
intersection in particular and also you
know other areas in town where kids are now

543
00:45:17,15 --> 00:45:19,16
going to have to make their
way to school and we do have

544
00:45:19,17 --> 00:45:23,98
a committee that is specifically looking
at making sure that the kids who are

545
00:45:23,99 --> 00:45:29,94
losing their bus and sound safe routes
to get to school. And you know well

546
00:45:31,37 --> 00:45:34,34
it's a high priority right now to take

547
00:45:34,35 --> 00:45:40,80
a look at those things so I will. Promise
you that we you know Mocha knew it and do

548
00:45:40,81 --> 00:45:47,38
our best and. I you know I can't promise
you what action we can take but it

549
00:45:47,83 --> 00:45:54,30
will definitely look into it
and. See what we can do there's

550
00:45:54,34 --> 00:45:58,37
a there's got to be an option and then
we'll try to come up with something you're

551
00:45:58,38 --> 00:46:03,77
right we shouldn't lose another another
person's self and where there will do

552
00:46:03,78 --> 00:46:07,61
whatever it takes Thank you they're not
just about children safety children's

553
00:46:07,62 --> 00:46:12,62
safety is very important I'm not minimizing
that all but it is about the whole

554
00:46:12,85 --> 00:46:17,100
issue of the interest how many people have
had wrecked cars how many people have

555
00:46:18,01 --> 00:46:24,81
had small ambulance injuries that's all
too many I mean and we've seen plenty

556
00:46:24,82 --> 00:46:29,35
of pieces of car in the intersection and
you don't know what kind of bumps and

557
00:46:29,39 --> 00:46:33,72
injuries people get in the car that are not
hospitalized with their still injuries

558
00:46:34,14 --> 00:46:39,71
and cost as well as just the whole safety
of everybody using the intersection

559
00:46:39,72 --> 00:46:46,01
whether in a car on a bike walking to
school walking to pizza plus whatever it's

560
00:46:46,02 --> 00:46:51,05
a big issue it goes beyond children's safety
and I'm not minimizing the importance

561
00:46:51,06 --> 00:46:56,37
of children's safety but it is bigger
than just the single issue the whole

562
00:46:56,42 --> 00:47:02,08
intersection needs to be dealt
with and I think you know

563
00:47:09,29 --> 00:47:16,23
public comment hey we're going to move on

564
00:47:16,26 --> 00:47:21,98
tonight in the city engineer
report you store some updates

565
00:47:23,28 --> 00:47:27,49
on the big three north of the road project
the contractors continue working on the

566
00:47:27,50 --> 00:47:34,33
South Africa around. It install the
rocks the base on Friday luckily

567
00:47:34,34 --> 00:47:41,07
before the rains so now they're.
Paving the way doing the. Phases

568
00:47:41,73 --> 00:47:48,67
they actually poured some of the temporary
that's. Also working on the road

569
00:47:49,48 --> 00:47:49,62
got

570
00:47:49,63 --> 00:47:57,08
a lot of grading work done before the rains
we did find horse oil drilling and so

571
00:47:57,43 --> 00:47:58,11
we're going to have

572
00:47:58,12 --> 00:48:02,75
a core that you know works very well that
with suitable material from the dries up

573
00:48:02,75 --> 00:48:09,39
. That's what the contractor this
morning they are. They're looking

574
00:48:09,40 --> 00:48:16,16
at probably maybe two weeks before the
shift is made where. He's found the

575
00:48:16,27 --> 00:48:21,55
moving north liberty to be Street will turn
south and go south on north of the road

576
00:48:22,27 --> 00:48:27,78
that all of them start working on the
waiting on the south half of the street so

577
00:48:27,79 --> 00:48:32,72
that all depends on how quickly they can
do all these poor is to get enough of the

578
00:48:32,73 --> 00:48:38,74
south half the roundabout done to divert
the traffic so little I'm sure Nic will

579
00:48:38,75 --> 00:48:44,21
have it in the city website cetera he said
give us at least seven day notice so the

580
00:48:44,53 --> 00:48:51,35
message will be out to the public on the
Penn State I kept project. They have

581
00:48:51,36 --> 00:48:55,94
also graded and placed rock sub sub base
on the north side widening between Kansas

582
00:48:55,95 --> 00:49:00,47
and three hundred and you probably notice
that they will hopefully be able to pay

583
00:49:00,48 --> 00:49:04,78
that yet this week that's what they are
targeting they've installed most of the

584
00:49:04,79 --> 00:49:09,73
Centauri force men on the north side of
Penn street over the last couple weeks and

585
00:49:09,77 --> 00:49:15,43
in the next couple weeks like I said they
should be paving the north side widening

586
00:49:15,44 --> 00:49:20,49
between Kansas and the ramp and the continue
with water me and force me connections

587
00:49:20,84 --> 00:49:27,36
and storms will work on the south side of
the water system improvements design work

588
00:49:27,37 --> 00:49:34,36
continues with that project we have. To
see staff review meeting scheduled for

589
00:49:34,37 --> 00:49:40,05
next week and to remind you the schedule
on this is Smith the plan the specs to the

590
00:49:40,06 --> 00:49:40,49
D.N.R.

591
00:49:40,50 --> 00:49:46,70
In June. And then building plan for
division one which would be the water plant

592
00:49:46,71 --> 00:49:53,62
itself. In August and then winter
for the vision two and three

593
00:49:53,63 --> 00:50:00,54
which would be the wells and the water
moving back into its pen metals park

594
00:50:01,51 --> 00:50:07,07
the paving contractor started work and he
got rained out and started on Friday and

595
00:50:07,07 --> 00:50:09,29
. So it'll take

596
00:50:09,30 --> 00:50:15,27
a while for that's dry out again before
you'll see him working again the the splash

597
00:50:15,28 --> 00:50:22,27
pad the public hearing for that
is tonight. One issue with that

598
00:50:22,28 --> 00:50:26,39
project is we're getting very low interest
in contractors and we're afraid we're

599
00:50:26,40 --> 00:50:27,01
not going to give me

600
00:50:27,02 --> 00:50:32,06
a bid to talk to one contractor who is very
interested in the project in of them as

601
00:50:32,07 --> 00:50:37,82
installed splash pads before but you cannot
do circular seat walls with if I know

602
00:50:37,83 --> 00:50:43,33
if you have seen the plans yet but it can
also include the circular sea wall around

603
00:50:43,34 --> 00:50:49,00
the patent so we decided to take that out
of the project hopefully no one wants to

604
00:50:49,01 --> 00:50:51,41
attach to that part of
the project apparently

605
00:50:51,42 --> 00:50:56,40
a contractor who was very interested in
it cannot do curve type of concrete work.

606
00:50:57,93 --> 00:51:03,81
Guy would like to do is after that the
contractor completes that project is to he

607
00:51:03,82 --> 00:51:10,08
had thought of this earlier as. Limestone
blocks or something around the edge he'd

608
00:51:10,09 --> 00:51:15,60
like something to kind of corralled the
kids in there but also keep the bikers and

609
00:51:15,69 --> 00:51:20,77
people from cutting through the
wall guy has some plans of

610
00:51:20,78 --> 00:51:26,02
a sleep for the new staff to do some
work around the edges we're planning on

611
00:51:26,04 --> 00:51:26,42
issuing

612
00:51:26,44 --> 00:51:35,91
a dent them for the tomorrow
to when they see all. That

613
00:51:35,92 --> 00:51:41,87
isn't at alternate so that if somebody was
capable and can bid on it they would.

614
00:51:46,62 --> 00:51:50,91
It's going to be very difficult to do
that in this type of time and I think

615
00:51:54,25 --> 00:51:59,39
Guy could still you know talk to
coordinate that well it's going to be very

616
00:51:59,40 --> 00:52:00,18
difficult to do.

617
00:52:06,44 --> 00:52:11,95
And get up on top and Jim. The wastewater
treatment facility they're about forty

618
00:52:11,96 --> 00:52:15,29
two percent complete with that project
now so they're they're making steady

619
00:52:15,30 --> 00:52:21,11
progress they're just working on different
components for the project. He's growth

620
00:52:21,12 --> 00:52:26,47
there's there's still final grading and
seating and such items of then they have to

621
00:52:26,48 --> 00:52:31,45
wait till the fall. For the pump station
to be operational because of the power and

622
00:52:31,46 --> 00:52:37,34
some other things but the project is
essentially completed and then lastly I have

623
00:52:37,35 --> 00:52:42,21
a my list the as a response or water
quality project we did receive the D.N.R.

624
00:52:42,22 --> 00:52:45,46
Approval for the ninety
percent metal and we have

625
00:52:45,47 --> 00:52:51,36
a steady staff final review
meeting later this week and

626
00:52:51,38 --> 00:52:54,56
a poncy staff approval us on
the final plan for the D.N.R.

627
00:52:55,69 --> 00:53:00,28
So the plan is to bid the project in
June pending on when we get that final

628
00:53:00,29 --> 00:53:06,05
approval from here. So have
on the list much as QUESTION

629
00:53:09,58 --> 00:53:14,09
A couple years ago we use fly ash as fill
for some of the streets that work or

630
00:53:14,14 --> 00:53:20,87
where you think yeah yeah. We
decided not to use it on this this

631
00:53:20,97 --> 00:53:25,45
part of north of the row but we are going
to use it all the suburbs for the whole

632
00:53:25,62 --> 00:53:31,81
surface not this junk we're going to dig
out three feet of soil but we are planning

633
00:53:31,82 --> 00:53:37,71
on using it for the entire system. Like
this and then you know when the last time

634
00:53:37,72 --> 00:53:43,32
we've read for Evergreen Road traffic data
I mean just the last. Couple of months

635
00:53:43,79 --> 00:53:48,98
the traffic pattern has changed dramatically
dramatically and when we go to work

636
00:53:48,99 --> 00:53:54,39
now there's cars backed up from nine sixty
five probably three fourths the way to

637
00:53:54,40 --> 00:54:00,24
Jones sometimes and then the people are
driving up the center lane. You know like

638
00:54:00,40 --> 00:54:04,40
half that distance to turn left you know
that's why it's going to just get up there

639
00:54:04,41 --> 00:54:08,94
and that's I mean going to get blindsided
by blindsided by somebody just ram up

640
00:54:08,95 --> 00:54:13,50
there behind them and stuff so you know I
don't know the probably include them and

641
00:54:13,50 --> 00:54:20,37
. What will stories that potential to have
codes I mean it's really different are

642
00:54:20,38 --> 00:54:25,60
you going to be impure would you traffic
out. Because you may need to change that

643
00:54:25,61 --> 00:54:29,17
turn lane where it how far
back it comes and stuff so

644
00:54:34,13 --> 00:54:40,61
right or front of you straight road. So
that temporary asphalt kind of where that

645
00:54:40,62 --> 00:54:46,61
one section again just east of the church
I think that was agree to I know the guy

646
00:54:46,62 --> 00:54:51,05
was working on that or whoever was working
on it or Don I guess probably would've

647
00:54:51,06 --> 00:54:56,08
been working up but I don't know just
because of the rain over the last day or so

648
00:54:56,09 --> 00:54:59,45
but it's kind of hollowed out again in
some areas so I think just really adding

649
00:55:00,07 --> 00:55:06,68
happens every time it rains. The
wheels of the Millings out and then.

650
00:55:07,72 --> 00:55:08,24
I usually go

651
00:55:08,25 --> 00:55:13,50
a contractor he's been doing and they
really were doing the best it's the best

652
00:55:13,57 --> 00:55:17,59
thing I can tell you is as they're doing
this phase of the construction of the

653
00:55:17,60 --> 00:55:23,92
South round about he's planning on leaving
so little it won't be until the end of

654
00:55:23,93 --> 00:55:30,12
the year let it actually it'll be let's.
You know I can't give you exact date but

655
00:55:30,28 --> 00:55:32,77
it won't last wholesome.

656
00:55:39,89 --> 00:55:46,03
Thing else forget them. Thank you Gavin
city planner reporting anything else

657
00:55:46,04 --> 00:55:51,51
tonight. The execution that
you all approved. Maybe

658
00:55:51,52 --> 00:55:57,03
a month ago now is scheduled for action by
the city development board tomorrow I'll

659
00:55:57,04 --> 00:56:01,66
be bridges baby by teleconference because
the members are so I figured it probably

660
00:56:01,67 --> 00:56:06,58
wasn't necessary for me to go way out
there if they were going to and the other

661
00:56:06,59 --> 00:56:12,85
thing I'd note is you're been here nine
years now and the last month is probably.

662
00:56:14,11 --> 00:56:17,61
The busiest I've ever been with
Develop a related calls so it's just

663
00:56:17,65 --> 00:56:19,40
a lot going on right now

664
00:56:19,64 --> 00:56:26,49
a lot of interesting new
development because any

665
00:56:26,50 --> 00:56:33,33
questions pretty OK thanks to. Scott's
not here but did he leave any

666
00:56:33,88 --> 00:56:40,45
updates yet based on lab
to her and she. System

667
00:56:40,97 --> 00:56:47,77
fifteen city administrator report. OK
so the summer lunch program starts June

668
00:56:47,78 --> 00:56:52,86
sixth and we still have lots of openings
for volunteers to help with the lunch and

669
00:56:52,87 --> 00:56:57,15
doing activities throughout the summer so
if anyone in the community is interested

670
00:56:57,16 --> 00:57:02,09
in helping out we would love
to have that assistance just

671
00:57:02,10 --> 00:57:07,06
a reminder that boarding commission
applications for vacancies and renewals are due

672
00:57:07,10 --> 00:57:11,61
on May twentieth. So if there are folks
that are interested in applying for those

673
00:57:11,62 --> 00:57:17,69
positions please get your application to
me I had the privilege of participating in

674
00:57:17,70 --> 00:57:21,71
the defenders of land and water day
last Wednesday the tenth year of those

675
00:57:21,72 --> 00:57:27,35
activities we pulled lots of garlic mustard
did lots of underbrush clean up had

676
00:57:27,36 --> 00:57:30,90
a really good group of seventh graders
from North Central Junior High that worked

677
00:57:30,91 --> 00:57:31,98
really hard it was

678
00:57:31,99 --> 00:57:37,27
a really fun absolutely beautiful day. And
then the final big thing Kevin talked

679
00:57:37,28 --> 00:57:40,62
about the S. Or F. Sponsored
water quality project I have

680
00:57:40,63 --> 00:57:41,85
a component of that that's

681
00:57:41,86 --> 00:57:46,27
a little different than what his is and
I'm administering the soil quality

682
00:57:46,28 --> 00:57:51,40
restoration program which is deep tiny
aeration two yards within the city of North

683
00:57:51,41 --> 00:57:56,05
Liberty with an application of compost
over the top so it basically create helps

684
00:57:56,06 --> 00:58:01,29
create soil in our neighborhoods in the
community which we have lots that have clay

685
00:58:01,30 --> 00:58:06,36
soils in sandy soils where grass and trees
don't grow this creates the ability to

686
00:58:06,37 --> 00:58:11,29
have black tops with black dirt on your
property so Saturday morning at ten o'clock

687
00:58:11,36 --> 00:58:13,23
eighty had Street will be doing

688
00:58:13,24 --> 00:58:16,66
a demonstration anyone from the community
that's interested in seeing it

689
00:58:17,06 --> 00:58:21,84
applications will be available for the
program starting then we have three hundred

690
00:58:21,85 --> 00:58:25,77
thousand dollars approximately for the
program and will fund up to one hundred

691
00:58:25,83 --> 00:58:32,04
a thousand dollars per household for this
project so you know dollar for dollar

692
00:58:32,05 --> 00:58:36,66
match like our other program so you have
potential three hundred or so houses can

693
00:58:36,67 --> 00:58:41,77
be assisted So folks are interested let
me know this will probably be able to go

694
00:58:41,78 --> 00:58:45,32
through maybe the first few weeks of June
then we'll start up again in September

695
00:58:45,33 --> 00:58:48,90
when the weather starts cooling off again
we have three contractors that are

696
00:58:48,91 --> 00:58:53,32
interested in willing to help with this
and it's pretty exciting we're kind of

697
00:58:53,33 --> 00:58:55,44
setting the bar for the
entire state of Iowa

698
00:58:55,70 --> 00:59:01,42
a lot of cities are watching us and how
this unfolds. Kind of laying the template

699
00:59:01,43 --> 00:59:06,05
for how other communities will do this
so it should be kind of cool there's

700
00:59:09,84 --> 00:59:15,13
like a thousand dollars. I average yard is

701
00:59:15,14 --> 00:59:18,27
a thousand dollars according
to Lucy it for Evergreen

702
00:59:23,50 --> 00:59:30,01
girl that's what I did. So

703
00:59:30,55 --> 00:59:32,25
you know one is

704
00:59:32,26 --> 00:59:39,46
a good rule over two. Hundred ten
year you can go for out. Thank

705
00:59:39,47 --> 00:59:45,17
you to anybody have anything else
for Tracy thanks Ruthie right.

706
00:59:47,82 --> 00:59:51,71
Think Scott mentioned this year
Eddie but I'll recap we did have

707
00:59:51,90 --> 00:59:53,84
a trial last week for about a day and

708
00:59:53,85 --> 01:00:00,40
a half regarding the wine in
case. The both sides or both the

709
01:00:00,41 --> 01:00:05,36
attorneys are have the next month or so
to submit briefs at which point the judge

710
01:00:05,37 --> 01:00:06,05
will probably make

711
01:00:06,06 --> 01:00:10,04
a ruling roughly thirty days later so we're
looking at late June sometime in July

712
01:00:10,05 --> 01:00:10,95
potentially for

713
01:00:11,93 --> 01:00:16,50
a ruling on that we'll certainly keep you
posted but we received proposals from

714
01:00:16,51 --> 01:00:22,74
three different solar companies.
We can half ago or so we're still

715
01:00:23,25 --> 01:00:27,26
working through those proposals and we
have some follow up questions to to the

716
01:00:27,27 --> 01:00:31,23
companies but hopefully I will be ready
for some discussion of potential

717
01:00:31,24 --> 01:00:37,09
consideration at the May twenty fifth
meeting. Just a reminder that the D.O.T.

718
01:00:37,10 --> 01:00:40,96
Is hosting another public meeting on
May nineteenth at the community center

719
01:00:40,97 --> 01:00:46,01
specific to the for Evergreen Road
interchange. That's that meeting will start at

720
01:00:46,51 --> 01:00:51,44
five o'clock and go through six thirty it's
an open house style meeting so. If you

721
01:00:51,45 --> 01:00:56,63
attend you could probably have some one
on one time with your local deal to

722
01:00:56,64 --> 01:01:02,64
officials to learn more about what their
plans what what they're planning and then

723
01:01:02,65 --> 01:01:08,81
again we hope to get them here in front
of this group soon. To talk more

724
01:01:08,82 --> 01:01:15,18
specifically about how this would
impact North Liberty. And lastly also

725
01:01:15,58 --> 01:01:20,57
update on what may be coming down for the
May twenty fifth meeting where as you

726
01:01:20,58 --> 01:01:25,21
know when we talked about the budget
in approve the budget we were showing

727
01:01:25,22 --> 01:01:31,75
a five percent utility water and sewer
increase we're currently analyzing those

728
01:01:31,76 --> 01:01:37,97
numbers again with actual. Expenses and
revenues throughout this fiscal year up to

729
01:01:37,98 --> 01:01:41,60
date that will have some data for you
to review at the next meeting in

730
01:01:41,61 --> 01:01:48,47
a proposal. Rate increases for water and
weight and wastewater at that May twenty

731
01:01:48,48 --> 01:01:54,13
fifth. That's what I have unless
your question. Of our meeting

732
01:01:57,04 --> 01:01:59,26
I'm sorry May twenty fourth Thank you Art.

733
01:02:05,03 --> 01:02:08,77
You remind us again what was the date on
that open house for the public was of the

734
01:02:08,78 --> 01:02:12,92
nineteenth that is there anything in there
what they did is agree what time five to

735
01:02:12,93 --> 01:02:19,86
six thirty Thank you. Anything

736
01:02:19,87 --> 01:02:26,68
else right OK Thank you. The
mayor reports and I did want to.

737
01:02:31,14 --> 01:02:37,39
Express our condolences for the passing of
Paula mean her funeral was this morning

738
01:02:37,47 --> 01:02:39,79
I believe we did have quite

739
01:02:39,80 --> 01:02:44,60
a few people from the city go and
attend and. I'd just like to take

740
01:02:44,61 --> 01:02:45,68
a minutes on her with

741
01:02:45,69 --> 01:02:57,92
a moment of silence. Right now so thank

742
01:02:57,93 --> 01:03:01,63
you I never had the opportunity
to meet but I heard that she was

743
01:03:01,64 --> 01:03:07,27
a very friendly and bubbly person and.
The kids really liked her so she will

744
01:03:07,28 --> 01:03:09,89
definitely be missed it was really

745
01:03:09,90 --> 01:03:16,49
a. Terrible accident that
happened there and I'll

746
01:03:17,31 --> 01:03:21,45
do our best to look into that see if there's
anything we can do to prevent another

747
01:03:21,46 --> 01:03:27,25
one. As was mentioned there
was the North Liberty pantry.

748
01:03:28,35 --> 01:03:31,59
Golf outing last week I did attend I drove

749
01:03:31,60 --> 01:03:35,06
a cart for some friends who
actually golfed but we did have

750
01:03:35,36 --> 01:03:37,14
a couple of people who won

751
01:03:37,44 --> 01:03:44,28
a prize I believe Chris and Tracy
you were on the team that won third

752
01:03:44,29 --> 01:03:50,91
place for your flight is that second first
first second flight and second OK all

753
01:03:50,92 --> 01:03:56,65
those numbers like I said I took some cold
medicine sorry. So it was you and was

754
01:03:56,66 --> 01:04:03,47
Tracey's guy. Stuff and stuff then I
wondered why he was making those. And

755
01:04:03,48 --> 01:04:09,02
Chris so congratulations guys let's not
forget the other team that participated but

756
01:04:09,03 --> 01:04:13,28
I'm not sure if they played as well as we
did obviously they didn't that's off to

757
01:04:13,29 --> 01:04:19,90
Ryan and Catherine. Just so this
is your attempt to rub it in

758
01:04:20,77 --> 01:04:26,88
it's working this is a setback and I
said Yeah just get it. Oh yeah it was

759
01:04:26,89 --> 01:04:29,85
a full house though they they had they
couldn't take anymore so that was

760
01:04:29,86 --> 01:04:32,25
a great outing for the
pantry they say they raised

761
01:04:32,26 --> 01:04:36,20
a lot of money for that and I believe
that's the first time they have filled all

762
01:04:36,21 --> 01:04:39,35
the spots to I know that the years I was
there they had they didn't so that's

763
01:04:39,36 --> 01:04:45,45
fantastic. And we do best to
proclamations tonight we have

764
01:04:45,61 --> 01:04:52,33
a proclamation for bicycle month. I just

765
01:04:52,34 --> 01:04:58,53
somebody else want to read these for me
so I. Think you. Are going to say it's

766
01:04:58,53 --> 01:05:04,52
first. So whereas the bicycle is an economical
environmentally sound and effective

767
01:05:04,53 --> 01:05:09,51
means of transportation recreation and
fitness and whereas the bicycle is

768
01:05:09,52 --> 01:05:09,90
considered

769
01:05:09,91 --> 01:05:14,35
a legitimate vehicle in all fifty states
is entitle to legal and responsible use of

770
01:05:14,36 --> 01:05:20,15
all public roads in Iowa except interstate
highways and whereas increased use of

771
01:05:20,25 --> 01:05:24,45
the bicycle benefit also distance by
improving air quality reducing traffic

772
01:05:24,46 --> 01:05:30,41
injection congestion and noise decreasing
use of Independence upon finite energy

773
01:05:30,42 --> 01:05:35,34
resources and will foster healthy lifestyles
and whereas the city of North Liberty

774
01:05:35,60 --> 01:05:38,00
as an ongoing commitment
to encourage bicycling as

775
01:05:38,01 --> 01:05:43,45
a viable mode of transportation and recreation
and where as many sixteen to twenty

776
01:05:43,79 --> 01:05:47,94
has been declared Johnson County Bike to
Work Week in the city of Newark Liberty

777
01:05:47,95 --> 01:05:52,38
supports bicycling to work and where
as the League of American Bicyclists

778
01:05:52,39 --> 01:05:59,38
established the month of May as National
Bicycle month now therefore I am mayor of

779
01:05:59,39 --> 01:06:03,20
the city of North Liberty Island to here
by proclaim the month of May twenty sixth

780
01:06:03,21 --> 01:06:09,81
seemed to be bicycle month. Like you know
in north the pretty island encourage all

781
01:06:09,82 --> 01:06:14,38
residents to ride their bicycles to work
to the store to the park to school and

782
01:06:14,39 --> 01:06:20,53
with friends and family to promote the
many benefits chief from bicycling we did

783
01:06:20,54 --> 01:06:25,57
print out something for you but I left the
city we did we left it in City Hall so I

784
01:06:25,57 --> 01:06:29,84
don't know if you want to stay to the end
we can run and get that for you or I can

785
01:06:30,14 --> 01:06:36,32
bring it to you another time
OK All right so it's good.

786
01:06:37,64 --> 01:06:41,99
Thank you for coming I'm. Going to get my.

787
01:06:47,54 --> 01:06:54,32
First trailer what. I think yeah
I think this could be wonderful.

788
01:06:55,50 --> 01:06:59,63
Like. You. Get

789
01:07:02,83 --> 01:07:03,67
so nice to have

790
01:07:03,67 --> 01:07:10,23
a trail like in my case it's being
passed right through your reach.

791
01:07:12,18 --> 01:07:18,27
I mean. You know best All right you know
right for our twenty three mile never be

792
01:07:18,28 --> 01:07:25,26
a major highway make it basically
streets and go there and back you

793
01:07:25,28 --> 01:07:29,53
know you're. Already in my status

794
01:07:29,54 --> 01:07:33,21
a part of the scene for the
trails was that we have

795
01:07:33,64 --> 01:07:39,51
a house someone else and this man
here would take what he likes well.

796
01:07:40,68 --> 01:07:46,04
As he knows I Mark stands give the Staverton
were long time. Residents of North

797
01:07:46,05 --> 01:07:48,08
Liberty I had

798
01:07:48,09 --> 01:07:54,02
a hip replacement last September so I had
to walk after that replacement and I went

799
01:07:54,04 --> 01:07:59,25
on the North Liberty bike trail and I was
really very impressed with the number of

800
01:07:59,27 --> 01:08:05,59
people that use the trail young and old
and it's been resurfaced Thank you that's

801
01:08:05,59 --> 01:08:12,31
great and I think the stablish
min of the North. Trail is

802
01:08:12,32 --> 01:08:14,45
really quite important
it's going to receive

803
01:08:14,45 --> 01:08:20,34
a lot of use once the high school opens
but I would like to encourage you as

804
01:08:20,44 --> 01:08:25,52
members of this console to stay
on task to try to complete

805
01:08:25,87 --> 01:08:30,71
a bike trail along with half a
pitch road it's a highly used road

806
01:08:30,74 --> 01:08:35,59
a lot of boat trailers lot of camping
trailers to go down that road it's

807
01:08:35,85 --> 01:08:42,08
a great improvement that we have this
this. Bike lane I guess you would call it

808
01:08:42,09 --> 01:08:48,80
also we call it. Well it's sort
of the shoulder basically that

809
01:08:48,81 --> 01:08:54,95
helps tremendously but I think with
the money usage. A bike path or

810
01:08:54,96 --> 01:08:56,32
a bike doesn't need

811
01:08:56,33 --> 01:09:00,71
a bike path is really important it's
important for the students of Iowa City

812
01:09:00,72 --> 01:09:06,26
because they like to make that twenty mile
loop from I was city to North Liberty

813
01:09:06,55 --> 01:09:11,75
down the halfway Bridge Road to
sugar bottom and it brings in

814
01:09:11,79 --> 01:09:18,03
a lot of people to eat here to get ice cream
to the bike shop and so I'm just here

815
01:09:18,04 --> 01:09:22,76
to say Keep up the good work and keep
pushing for something that's going to be

816
01:09:22,77 --> 01:09:28,02
expensive because I live off my half of
Bridge Road and I see how much fill is

817
01:09:28,03 --> 01:09:28,31
going to be

818
01:09:28,32 --> 01:09:34,50
a car to build that bike path don't
give up on it stay with it yes I think

819
01:09:37,52 --> 01:09:42,31
this city is going so far
to westerly direction.

820
01:09:45,37 --> 01:09:50,41
Where you know I school so I think I
appreciated the series down I mean here now

821
01:09:50,42 --> 01:09:54,51
for forty years and it's been

822
01:09:54,52 --> 01:10:00,28
a life changing experience for me to be
able to bike and. Yeah it's been tremendous

823
01:10:00,29 --> 01:10:03,03
improvements thank you welcome back.

824
01:10:07,16 --> 01:10:14,04
Thank you and we also have an Arbor Day

825
01:10:14,05 --> 01:10:20,94
proclamation called for pride.
Whereas trees are one of I was most

826
01:10:20,95 --> 01:10:25,99
valuable natural resources that help to
clean our air and water create employment

827
01:10:26,00 --> 01:10:31,44
for over seven thousand Iowans help to
conserve our soil energy resources provide

828
01:10:31,45 --> 01:10:36,06
critical wildlife habitat for over three
hundred different species to for outdoor

829
01:10:36,07 --> 01:10:38,38
recreation opportunities
and make our communities

830
01:10:38,39 --> 01:10:43,18
a more pleasant place to live and work
and where as trees in our city increase

831
01:10:43,19 --> 01:10:47,67
property values and Hansie economic
vitality of business areas and beautifier

832
01:10:47,68 --> 01:10:51,09
community whereas the city of North
Liberty has been recognized as

833
01:10:51,10 --> 01:10:55,91
a Tree City USA by the National Arbor Day
Foundation and desires to continue its

834
01:10:55,92 --> 01:11:01,35
tree planting practices where is each year
Arbor Day is absorbed observed by the

835
01:11:01,36 --> 01:11:05,68
people of North Liberty with special
attention paid to the care and planting of

836
01:11:05,69 --> 01:11:12,46
trees now the. Mayor of the city of North
Liberty Iowa to hear by proclaim May

837
01:11:12,47 --> 01:11:18,75
thirteenth two thousand and sixteen to the
Arbor Day in North Liberty thank you for

838
01:11:18,76 --> 01:11:22,64
your assistance it's not as
easy as looks as if. They're.

839
01:11:26,95 --> 01:11:30,55
Moving on to the Liberty
view mall fight plan B.

840
01:11:30,76 --> 01:11:37,73
Do you have the. Commission staff or
committees to do this is or commanded by staff

841
01:11:37,74 --> 01:11:38,98
and the commission it's

842
01:11:38,99 --> 01:11:45,45
a new commercial. Development
that is being considered

843
01:11:45,77 --> 01:11:52,19
pin street Westin street directly west of
Elo Pelly there is an existing open lot

844
01:11:52,20 --> 01:11:55,27
there that you may be
familiar with. This is

845
01:11:55,28 --> 01:12:01,80
a. Higher quality design than we see in
some of our projects although we're again

846
01:12:01,81 --> 01:12:02,79
very fortunate that

847
01:12:02,80 --> 01:12:07,24
a lot of what we get is very good quality
development this one in particular though

848
01:12:07,25 --> 01:12:09,18
has sort of a signature look with

849
01:12:09,19 --> 01:12:15,10
a couple of. Square tower
type towers per se but it's

850
01:12:15,11 --> 01:12:21,37
a different look with a different roof
line than Subway see the thought is it be

851
01:12:21,38 --> 01:12:25,11
a restaurant included in it some outside
eating that would overlook one of the

852
01:12:25,12 --> 01:12:30,43
private ponds directly to the east the
general layout is for the building on the

853
01:12:30,44 --> 01:12:33,99
south side of the lot with the
parking toward the front there's

854
01:12:34,00 --> 01:12:40,25
a nicely developed. Landscape
planned sidewalks throughout for

855
01:12:40,26 --> 01:12:46,21
pedestrian access seating area that's been
established on the west side of the site

856
01:12:46,71 --> 01:12:53,54
and it's recommended for approval with
with no conditions and as well we

857
01:12:53,55 --> 01:12:58,26
also have a site plan agreement that
is recommended for approval it's

858
01:12:58,27 --> 01:13:04,37
a fairly standard agreement with no out
of the ordinary recommended conditions

859
01:13:11,68 --> 01:13:17,56
questions. Was just generally
about that core door

860
01:13:18,41 --> 01:13:23,18
and you know my desire and I voted against
having those overhead power lines

861
01:13:23,19 --> 01:13:24,44
because I feel like this is kind of

862
01:13:24,45 --> 01:13:32,24
a gateway to the city. And maybe. Maybe

863
01:13:32,25 --> 01:13:39,19
this is. Not can I sort of feel like
we should be master planning that

864
01:13:39,23 --> 01:13:45,92
Gateway and having some.
Forethought Is that how we want

865
01:13:46,24 --> 01:13:52,41
buildings to be constructed along that
corridor or in specifically to this site I

866
01:13:52,42 --> 01:13:58,68
was wondering if the developer had considered
putting the building shifting it to

867
01:13:58,69 --> 01:14:05,55
the north even if it wasn't. You know
what half way through the parking lot was

868
01:14:05,56 --> 01:14:12,42
sort of like. What are subways and
zero jobs are so it's it's not

869
01:14:12,43 --> 01:14:12,68
just

870
01:14:12,69 --> 01:14:18,90
a big concrete parking lot in the building
set back behind it that it's kind of got

871
01:14:18,91 --> 01:14:23,89
the architecture on the street side versus
sitting back and maybe they'll have that

872
01:14:23,90 --> 01:14:28,90
Africa have more to say about whether or
not that was considered but I do feel like

873
01:14:28,91 --> 01:14:33,66
we should have some view of what the future
of that corridor will look like and as

874
01:14:33,67 --> 01:14:37,69
we're starting to get more and more folks
in arrests those in developing there

875
01:14:37,70 --> 01:14:44,64
which is awesome what is our
vision of that space and I hate

876
01:14:44,65 --> 01:14:49,79
the fact that the power lines are going to
go over there but that's within the past

877
01:14:49,80 --> 01:14:55,65
that there won't be here. Yeah this was

878
01:14:56,41 --> 01:15:00,46
down the way for that but I still think
that that is considered part of like

879
01:15:00,47 --> 01:15:06,05
a way you have that right here
there will be so that's just

880
01:15:06,37 --> 01:15:09,20
a general comment and then I got

881
01:15:09,21 --> 01:15:15,100
a question about the enclosure in
the north west corner. In the west

882
01:15:16,01 --> 01:15:22,46
corner north. Northwest corner is not sure
what you're seeing on that I There isn't

883
01:15:22,47 --> 01:15:29,37
any fluids on the photometric
sheet. Oh that's I'm

884
01:15:29,38 --> 01:15:35,15
sorry that's because the photometric sheet
was submitted with the first application

885
01:15:35,69 --> 01:15:39,89
and in the first application and that's
where the enclosure was play OK One of the

886
01:15:39,90 --> 01:15:44,33
staff comments was COULD COULD THAT PLEASE
BE MOVED OK and if you look at all the

887
01:15:44,34 --> 01:15:49,60
other site place to me that's it's not
there it's down in the southeast corner

888
01:15:49,86 --> 01:15:54,92
right. Behind it lease hands off the
streets that is off because every exactly

889
01:15:57,69 --> 01:16:02,95
I. Believe the architect is here and
Representative Bill would you like to speak to

890
01:16:02,96 --> 01:16:03,17
that

891
01:16:11,32 --> 01:16:15,27
my name is Bill Knapp I'm with Knapp board
engineers and architects in Cedar Rapids

892
01:16:15,61 --> 01:16:21,87
we are part of the design team. So I'll
entertain any questions you have to your

893
01:16:21,88 --> 01:16:28,35
first question about location of the building
and initially we did consider moving

894
01:16:28,36 --> 01:16:35,27
the bill or having the building along the
sidewalk along Penn street as we got into

895
01:16:35,27 --> 01:16:41,62
. The best use of the space and
along with the required parking for

896
01:16:42,43 --> 01:16:47,96
this type of facility. It landed us to
move it to the south end of the property

897
01:16:47,97 --> 01:16:53,08
which also enabled us to. Access the get

898
01:16:53,09 --> 01:16:55,75
a closer to the pond the
idea is there would be

899
01:16:55,76 --> 01:16:59,98
a restaurant on the west end of the building
that would overlook have some outdoor

900
01:16:59,99 --> 01:17:06,68
seating that would basically overlook the
pond and the owner or the owner of the

901
01:17:06,69 --> 01:17:13,42
property that's developing it for
further that option I think to. To help

902
01:17:13,81 --> 01:17:19,39
your concern we have included some
landscape vermin along pence tree to

903
01:17:20,29 --> 01:17:27,15
minimize the. Amount of light
from cars parking as they

904
01:17:27,83 --> 01:17:34,58
go in to access the site of the we

905
01:17:34,59 --> 01:17:39,57
shared with the with the engineer early
on was there as you recall there say

906
01:17:39,89 --> 01:17:46,42
a small and care center just to the
south of us and we were we were

907
01:17:47,25 --> 01:17:49,26
concerned about what impact having

908
01:17:49,27 --> 01:17:53,98
a large parking lot right there with the
activity that goes with it would have on

909
01:17:53,99 --> 01:17:59,83
that that facility so the back of the
building here were not much would go on

910
01:17:59,84 --> 01:18:02,10
although of course there but
there may be out say D.D.

911
01:18:02,11 --> 01:18:04,64
You know in the on the West
End but that's subject to

912
01:18:04,65 --> 01:18:09,84
a conditional use and we feel we can control
that you know that noise and anything

913
01:18:09,85 --> 01:18:15,31
that happens there but it seems like having
the parking on the other side of the

914
01:18:15,32 --> 01:18:17,80
building from a residential
care facility was

915
01:18:17,81 --> 01:18:24,50
a better idea. This sort of facade in the

916
01:18:24,51 --> 01:18:30,61
architecture is nice so even though
it sits back. And you've got

917
01:18:31,71 --> 01:18:38,38
you know this parking lot separating it
you know the architecture at least this

918
01:18:38,83 --> 01:18:45,81
way. You tell so it's in our packet

919
01:18:46,35 --> 01:18:49,42
he's thirty one but I
talked about eliminating

920
01:18:49,43 --> 01:18:52,75
a few parking spots in fifteen appropriate
by the developer could provide

921
01:18:52,76 --> 01:18:55,42
additional green space
and potentially provide

922
01:18:55,43 --> 01:18:59,78
a interactive pedestrian entrance way kind
of park from Penn street so I don't know

923
01:18:59,79 --> 01:19:04,61
if that still but it said I don't want
to read the whole thing for you but. The

924
01:19:04,62 --> 01:19:08,55
owner chose not to pursue that option so I
think that to me as I read it could be I

925
01:19:08,56 --> 01:19:09,05
mean more of

926
01:19:09,06 --> 01:19:13,74
a buffer kind of the green there but can
you just talk about maybe on behalf of the

927
01:19:13,75 --> 01:19:18,45
owner why that was not selected the
whole issue there was that the parking

928
01:19:18,46 --> 01:19:24,83
requirements for the retail space
and and the possible restaurant the

929
01:19:24,84 --> 01:19:30,71
restaurants have double the requirements
for parking space so we're we're basically

930
01:19:30,75 --> 01:19:36,95
just have the required number spaces required
for the building OK So on to subpoena

931
01:19:36,96 --> 01:19:43,34
restaurant Yeah I mean I think
the owner would be willing to

932
01:19:43,72 --> 01:19:50,33
trade parking spaces for green space but.
We wouldn't meet that ordinance for the

933
01:19:50,77 --> 01:19:56,55
required number of parking spaces OK do
anything else you know well I would just

934
01:19:56,56 --> 01:20:01,74
say that you know this is something
we might work on if Council. Deems it

935
01:20:01,75 --> 01:20:07,25
appropriate to approve but we in the
past have have agreed to that sort of an

936
01:20:07,26 --> 01:20:13,23
arrangement if the owner is willing
to. To take out some parking.

937
01:20:13,79 --> 01:20:20,69
In favor of some green spaces on this it's
not something that's that's way crazy we

938
01:20:20,70 --> 01:20:24,44
work with them and we've encouraged it
in the past and we did in this case and

939
01:20:24,45 --> 01:20:24,93
maybe we did

940
01:20:24,94 --> 01:20:30,56
a poor job of explaining that we wouldn't
then expect them to necessarily meet the

941
01:20:30,57 --> 01:20:34,86
parking ordinance requirements and you
know I always I think that we have to

942
01:20:34,87 --> 01:20:39,74
remember that the parking requirements
that are in the ordinance are based on and

943
01:20:39,78 --> 01:20:44,71
very big averages from all over the
country and they're just they're they're

944
01:20:44,72 --> 01:20:51,64
starting point is the way I think of them
and many times owners developers business

945
01:20:51,65 --> 01:20:52,69
owners will have

946
01:20:52,70 --> 01:20:57,10
a pretty good idea of how many parking
spaces they'll need for for their facility

947
01:20:57,11 --> 01:20:59,42
and of this is a little
different because you know it's

948
01:20:59,43 --> 01:21:00,91
a building that it's the it's

949
01:21:01,26 --> 01:21:07,30
a tenet it's been established before
there are I assume ten it's lined up but

950
01:21:07,34 --> 01:21:12,86
nonetheless I think a few parking
spaces that are deleted in favor of

951
01:21:12,87 --> 01:21:16,70
a little more green space especially along
Penn street would be would be something

952
01:21:16,71 --> 01:21:22,14
that we'd be happy to talk about and could
be easily incorporated. As we move ahead

953
01:21:22,15 --> 01:21:28,27
with it if that's what counsel
would like to see. Or.

954
01:21:29,42 --> 01:21:31,74
I'd like to know I was hoping to ask

955
01:21:31,75 --> 01:21:36,80
a question about. We had bicycle
proclamation bicycle months is there

956
01:21:36,81 --> 01:21:43,42
a is there space on here for bicycles to
be parked and I didn't review THIS P.L.Z.

957
01:21:43,43 --> 01:21:48,18
Meeting so I apologize for the repetitive
conversation tonally I don't think

958
01:21:48,19 --> 01:21:49,70
specifically we do have

959
01:21:49,71 --> 01:21:54,20
a location it would not be hard to incorporate
and I'm wondering if I'm wondering

960
01:21:54,21 --> 01:21:56,43
along with that then if
we might be able to have

961
01:21:56,44 --> 01:22:00,91
a navy and other access
point for sidewalks or

962
01:22:00,92 --> 01:22:05,20
a bike path to come in possibly on the
west side of that parking lot or just if

963
01:22:05,21 --> 01:22:08,93
you're if we can free up some green space
maybe bring it someplace else into the

964
01:22:08,94 --> 01:22:12,31
parking lot and that way you don't have
to have it on one side or the other human

965
01:22:12,32 --> 01:22:17,75
beings being who we are will find the source
path so if we're coming from the west

966
01:22:17,76 --> 01:22:22,73
we're going to maybe veer off sooner if
we can then going down to that driveway

967
01:22:23,11 --> 01:22:28,54
it's got to us I'd be happy to work with
the so yeah another way up or let's bring

968
01:22:28,55 --> 01:22:34,40
those in there the other question I had was
about. Again and I didn't and I didn't

969
01:22:34,44 --> 01:22:35,42
watch THIS P.L.Z.

970
01:22:35,43 --> 01:22:40,38
Meeting so I apologize the the traffic on
country lane and going out that access

971
01:22:40,39 --> 01:22:44,49
points is it does it built for this Dean
or is it OK for this because we're not we

972
01:22:44,50 --> 01:22:50,47
don't have any plans of having any any
control light there at the center and you're

973
01:22:50,48 --> 01:22:52,16
OK with that because we're
going to get one of actually

974
01:22:52,17 --> 01:22:55,67
a camera and some access there but that
won't be the case here this is kind of

975
01:22:55,68 --> 01:23:01,76
limited given your being on this no there
there's not it's very mobile on road

976
01:23:01,77 --> 01:23:08,72
right now. And for the. Wow for next

977
01:23:08,73 --> 01:23:14,99
year due to wide and street when we did
you know we run across this property one

978
01:23:15,03 --> 01:23:19,32
turn the. Turn OK OK

979
01:23:22,20 --> 01:23:28,69
there. With the property owner of the
road and this property or who owns what

980
01:23:29,18 --> 01:23:30,85
so that we don't end up with

981
01:23:30,86 --> 01:23:36,79
a problem of people getting to the back
of their residential areas yes that's all

982
01:23:36,80 --> 01:23:42,43
written who's going to maintain it it's all
by one of the two Do you remember which

983
01:23:42,55 --> 01:23:47,50
which order owns country lane I think
this or that owns country laid over

984
01:23:47,51 --> 01:23:54,27
a natural British are pretty pretty
sure you would better situation

985
01:23:54,28 --> 01:23:58,29
because you would want the out if they
are for now but I think we should think

986
01:23:58,30 --> 01:23:59,90
about that a little bit so you end up with

987
01:23:59,91 --> 01:24:06,03
a problem like we have down by the golf
course so that we eliminate that potential

988
01:24:13,23 --> 01:24:19,67
that we. Want to continue especially the
trees the extra green space around eyes

989
01:24:20,93 --> 01:24:24,49
because everybody wants to get building
now I'd suggest that if it's OK with you

990
01:24:24,50 --> 01:24:31,22
all if you would if you'd consider consider
approval subject to continue to work

991
01:24:31,23 --> 01:24:33,21
with staff and find

992
01:24:33,22 --> 01:24:38,42
a place for additional green space near
pin street corner or I'd be I'd recommend

993
01:24:38,43 --> 01:24:42,38
you go that direction if you're inclined
to use it sounded like there was

994
01:24:42,39 --> 01:24:46,39
a possibility that they didn't know existed
that it does exist so it's likely that

995
01:24:46,40 --> 01:24:49,67
it will occur if you know of

996
01:24:49,68 --> 01:24:54,36
a desktop access look at one site playing
agree with her the gullible one.

997
01:24:57,99 --> 01:25:00,98
For which one for which
oh I'm sorry there's

998
01:25:00,99 --> 01:25:07,63
a place and also on the bicycle
that one you remain on

999
01:25:08,62 --> 01:25:13,63
high class thanks you're welcome just
I'm sure it's fairly inexpensive and

1000
01:25:13,63 --> 01:25:16,79
a bike ride bike rack over.

1001
01:25:20,97 --> 01:25:27,73
There Any further questions. Then we'll
consider resolution number twenty

1002
01:25:27,74 --> 01:25:32,66
sixteen forty five approving the site plan
agreement and establishing the terms and

1003
01:25:32,67 --> 01:25:36,69
conditions under which liberty of Humala
be developed in the city of North Liberty

1004
01:25:36,73 --> 01:25:42,07
Iowa so what the additions
second the further discussed

1005
01:25:44,83 --> 01:25:49,59
tracing. I polish as who
made the second OK.

1006
01:25:53,38 --> 01:25:57,79
Sayer Hofmann Pollack I Donahue I

1007
01:26:00,38 --> 01:26:06,19
arsonist Kerry. And we also have resolution
twenty sixteen forty six approving the

1008
01:26:06,20 --> 01:26:07,51
development site plan for

1009
01:26:07,52 --> 01:26:12,90
a lot one liberty the new subdivision
North Liberty Iowa so my second you

1010
01:26:12,91 --> 01:26:18,35
discussion. But the conditions
lost last week when I was.

1011
01:26:20,08 --> 01:26:23,72
Floated on the morning I mean what it was
like that's what I thought too but this

1012
01:26:23,73 --> 01:26:29,62
was doesn't know what either doesn't mean
that we need to update the agreement then

1013
01:26:30,05 --> 01:26:31,36
because the first one I think are going to

1014
01:26:37,12 --> 01:26:37,42
be

1015
01:26:37,76 --> 01:26:42,55
a last year for the debt if it needs to be
included if including those conditions needs

1016
01:26:42,56 --> 01:26:45,36
to be in the green light then we don't
want to do that if it needs to be in the

1017
01:26:45,37 --> 01:26:49,44
agreement that it's the motion was made
correctly because then we'll update the

1018
01:26:49,45 --> 01:26:54,58
agreement to include those stipulations
But if that motion should be test them

1019
01:26:54,59 --> 01:26:59,88
included with the site plan approval this
is the appropriate time this would be the

1020
01:26:59,89 --> 01:27:01,87
better time to do it because it's

1021
01:27:01,88 --> 01:27:04,66
a little bit you know we're going to work
together and see if we can make this

1022
01:27:04,67 --> 01:27:09,98
happen and it sounds like we can but if
you put it in the agreement that it's it

1023
01:27:09,99 --> 01:27:15,44
must be done right Plus we already
have to resign we're not mandatory

1024
01:27:17,47 --> 01:27:24,23
Karrar. Consideration Right right
right exactly that's what I'm saying

1025
01:27:24,37 --> 01:27:29,35
they were they were considerations so if
you attach them to the site plan approval

1026
01:27:29,73 --> 01:27:36,66
then we'll the owner and I will work
together to try to incorporate those in the

1027
01:27:36,67 --> 01:27:42,22
site playing in the agreement would still
stand as written the reason we don't want

1028
01:27:42,23 --> 01:27:48,54
to amend the agreement or at least in my
mind is the current owners of the property

1029
01:27:48,55 --> 01:27:51,99
are in Florida or Missouri
or someplace and it's quite

1030
01:27:52,00 --> 01:27:58,72
a process getting your signature
So how do we deal with. Their

1031
01:27:58,89 --> 01:28:05,35
motion. I'll just. For
the. Crew of the second

1032
01:28:08,03 --> 01:28:09,00
Yeah we need done do

1033
01:28:09,01 --> 01:28:11,93
a little bit about what we just did with
the agreement right now it's what you

1034
01:28:12,15 --> 01:28:17,31
that's what you want to do right well for
understanding that's please propre place

1035
01:28:17,32 --> 01:28:24,18
right place Yes yes good to what
we just approved. It's government

1036
01:28:24,19 --> 01:28:31,16
both now so that way you play with it
any way you want your happens and I

1037
01:28:31,17 --> 01:28:32,79
know that we didn't charge

1038
01:28:32,80 --> 01:28:38,21
a legal matters here. Very very OK Well
Tracey go ahead with Roll Call that

1039
01:28:39,71 --> 01:28:46,23
I think I I I said. That one's

1040
01:28:46,24 --> 01:28:49,18
a pretty Thank you thank you.

1041
01:28:53,20 --> 01:28:58,39
Bros Barry stop preliminary plot do you
have some recommendations for this one too

1042
01:28:58,39 --> 01:29:02,18
. Just that this is a is

1043
01:29:02,19 --> 01:29:05,53
a site that was reviewed. Quite

1044
01:29:05,54 --> 01:29:10,67
a few years ago. With previous
city council of course and

1045
01:29:11,46 --> 01:29:15,98
a development plan was submitted it approved
at that time but it's expired because

1046
01:29:15,99 --> 01:29:21,76
it had been done so long ago and. Now
the owner would like to proceed with

1047
01:29:21,77 --> 01:29:26,50
development on the site so we have a
preliminary plat submitted in we also have

1048
01:29:26,51 --> 01:29:32,18
a preliminary plat agreement that goes
with it and we we've taken quite an

1049
01:29:32,19 --> 01:29:37,36
extensive look at this. Remember the
preliminary plot is what allows

1050
01:29:37,37 --> 01:29:41,83
a property owner to continue on with the
site improvements the public improvements

1051
01:29:41,84 --> 01:29:48,42
like streets and water and those
sorts of things. Mr Lin and the

1052
01:29:48,46 --> 01:29:53,52
owners intent is to do is to first develop
the part of the site close closest or

1053
01:29:53,53 --> 01:29:59,13
Jason to Front Street and then move to the
move on to the western part of the site

1054
01:29:59,46 --> 01:30:03,51
and importantly what's on the western part
of the site is an important tie in for

1055
01:30:03,52 --> 01:30:04,04
us between

1056
01:30:04,05 --> 01:30:08,33
a couple of streets if you're familiar
with this part of town Rachel St dead ends

1057
01:30:08,34 --> 01:30:11,67
now as does Sadler drive
in this is a sort of

1058
01:30:11,68 --> 01:30:16,50
a critical connection north south connection
and then also actually court would

1059
01:30:16,55 --> 01:30:21,25
eventually cross the tracks from the west
side or it comes past the North Liberty

1060
01:30:21,32 --> 01:30:28,16
living center and commercial
area and would tie into this to

1061
01:30:28,17 --> 01:30:35,15
this general location and it's the last
of the planned road crossings east

1062
01:30:35,16 --> 01:30:40,60
west road crossings in North Liberty I
want to mention too that for some reason

1063
01:30:40,61 --> 01:30:47,50
that we have no one now is able to
reconstruct our main street plan

1064
01:30:47,51 --> 01:30:52,62
shows the extension of actually Court East
board all the way through this property

1065
01:30:52,63 --> 01:30:58,63
out to freight street. And before the
year in approving the preliminary plat it

1066
01:30:58,64 --> 01:31:05,57
would be advisable to if you're inclined
to agree to approve the plat to alter

1067
01:31:05,58 --> 01:31:10,52
the major street plan to delete that section
of Ashley court and that's what staff

1068
01:31:10,53 --> 01:31:17,47
is recommending. Actually court extending
it through there would would really

1069
01:31:17,48 --> 01:31:22,92
preclude almost all development on the
property so we would if if we insisted on

1070
01:31:22,93 --> 01:31:28,32
that extension we would probably both have
to purchase the property and build the

1071
01:31:28,33 --> 01:31:33,03
street because it just wouldn't be economical
for anybody to maintain that property

1072
01:31:33,04 --> 01:31:35,67
and be able to do it so would it be

1073
01:31:35,68 --> 01:31:40,58
a nice connection to make out the front
street Yes Is it necessary you know and so

1074
01:31:40,59 --> 01:31:47,15
that's that that's part of the
recommendation so we have

1075
01:31:47,16 --> 01:31:49,57
a preliminary plan agreement

1076
01:31:49,58 --> 01:31:54,97
a preliminary plot and then
the. The major street change

1077
01:32:00,00 --> 01:32:06,69
of questions pretty. Recession
saying Gene I mean you're on the

1078
01:32:06,70 --> 01:32:12,45
trails and kind of like computers come
back up here but on page sixty nine I

1079
01:32:12,46 --> 01:32:18,02
mention letter Dean was that potential
trail connection to Front Street as

1080
01:32:18,03 --> 01:32:22,63
a possibility. You know more about that
or can we kind of you know will take

1081
01:32:22,64 --> 01:32:26,02
a look at it only slightly that
OK yeah you know if there's

1082
01:32:26,03 --> 01:32:30,78
a way to reasonably do it to get it through
the site plan yes but it looks like

1083
01:32:30,82 --> 01:32:34,45
that area where it needs to go is
going to be tough because it's got

1084
01:32:34,46 --> 01:32:41,22
a lot of greed. You know when you can
be creative with switchbacks But

1085
01:32:42,19 --> 01:32:48,11
beyond that it's in that just takes up
more lot more room. Side to side so it's

1086
01:32:48,36 --> 01:32:50,88
a lot of room side site so it's
you know we have to follow

1087
01:32:50,89 --> 01:32:55,34
a DA requirements will slopes on trails
as well as everything else so it will be

1088
01:32:55,35 --> 01:32:59,54
a challenge OK but we are looking
at it and we have the site plan for

1089
01:33:00,33 --> 01:33:05,96
a lot one so that's under consideration.
Thanks I just want to make sure heavily

1090
01:33:05,97 --> 01:33:12,23
looking at thank you my question was about
phasing of these lot developments and I

1091
01:33:12,24 --> 01:33:15,09
thought I read this in here but I can't
find it right now could you walk us through

1092
01:33:15,10 --> 01:33:15,19
is

1093
01:33:15,20 --> 01:33:18,84
a requirement on which one how these lots
are developed I think I just heard you say

1094
01:33:18,85 --> 01:33:19,09
that

1095
01:33:19,38 --> 01:33:25,80
a lot one is to be developed first and then
YES lot to and then Lot three or is there

1096
01:33:25,81 --> 01:33:28,02
or is there a does do they have to develop

1097
01:33:28,14 --> 01:33:34,32
a lot to the next note of
Lot three no. There isn't

1098
01:33:34,36 --> 01:33:40,40
a required. Sequence but there's probably
one that makes most sense economically

1099
01:33:40,41 --> 01:33:45,79
for the owner and developers can see that
yeah so they'll go ahead and as most

1100
01:33:45,80 --> 01:33:50,16
folks would they would develop the first
part in generate some you know some of the

1101
01:33:50,20 --> 01:33:55,04
revenue that's necessary to to be
able to extend that street and before

1102
01:33:55,05 --> 01:33:59,31
a lot too lots two or three can be developed
that Street's going to have to be in

1103
01:34:01,40 --> 01:34:05,46
right there's no Street Extension in Lot
one there's nothing there's just an access

1104
01:34:05,47 --> 01:34:11,05
road out the front street Yes So is there
my concern is that no one gets built and

1105
01:34:11,06 --> 01:34:17,29
then it's ten years before we get that
before. Rachel Street is completed is there

1106
01:34:17,55 --> 01:34:17,83
is there

1107
01:34:17,84 --> 01:34:22,86
a tiny element involved and once the
completion of Lot one is is can is constructed

1108
01:34:22,91 --> 01:34:27,39
Yes there is and I want to stress that
you know this there's if you look at the

1109
01:34:27,40 --> 01:34:28,87
preliminary plant agreement there are

1110
01:34:28,89 --> 01:34:32,80
a number of conditions that are related to
this and I want to stress that they have

1111
01:34:33,11 --> 01:34:38,54
nothing at all to do with any figures about
this particular developer this is many

1112
01:34:38,55 --> 01:34:42,80
times as you know when we write regulations
or we write agreements there for worst

1113
01:34:42,82 --> 01:34:47,87
case scenarios this is certainly not one
of those worst case scenarios but it does

1114
01:34:47,89 --> 01:34:54,68
say that. That the right of
way for that street has to be

1115
01:34:54,69 --> 01:35:00,35
dedicated right up front. As well as part
of the first Bio plat so that guarantees

1116
01:35:00,36 --> 01:35:06,51
that in the future if if this developer
isn't financially able to put that story

1117
01:35:06,52 --> 01:35:11,29
down at least we'll have the right away and
we would be able to do it OK and then.

1118
01:35:13,01 --> 01:35:17,86
Consider the easements that are necessary
to do it would also be granted to us

1119
01:35:17,87 --> 01:35:20,92
according to this agreement
and then there's

1120
01:35:20,93 --> 01:35:27,66
a time period of sixty months.
That we expect that the developer

1121
01:35:27,67 --> 01:35:34,13
expects that they will be extending that
street OK and that's in the that's also in

1122
01:35:34,14 --> 01:35:37,79
there yeah so I said thanks
for rehashing that for us

1123
01:35:41,91 --> 01:35:48,72
a little bit more about why
it's unreasonable to extend

1124
01:35:48,73 --> 01:35:55,59
actually court to Front Street on that piece
of property sure because the total the

1125
01:35:55,60 --> 01:35:59,77
total length of that property is three
hundred thirty four feet or about

1126
01:35:59,78 --> 01:36:03,94
a city block what most people think
of as a city block so if you bring

1127
01:36:03,95 --> 01:36:10,28
a major street through that through that
area that would be. At least sixty feet.

1128
01:36:12,37 --> 01:36:12,78
Looks like

1129
01:36:12,78 --> 01:36:17,00
a right away to the west on Ashley court
is sixty feet so you'd be taken sixty feet

1130
01:36:17,02 --> 01:36:18,91
off of it there'd be

1131
01:36:18,92 --> 01:36:23,75
a stream crossing which is very expensive
there would be and then you'd lose sixty

1132
01:36:23,75 --> 01:36:27,75
feet times the length of the lot which is
another three hundred feet so you'd lose

1133
01:36:27,75 --> 01:36:33,32
an awful lot of of of land in in that
extension and Kevin do you want to is very

1134
01:36:33,32 --> 01:36:37,21
thing you want to hear you're bringing it
in already and bring it to Rachel street

1135
01:36:37,81 --> 01:36:42,62
Yes So you're halfway through the. Yes
it's another three hundred feet up front

1136
01:36:42,63 --> 01:36:45,72
street. That's

1137
01:36:45,73 --> 01:36:51,57
a part of crossing one creek. By the time
you did that and then the last of the

1138
01:36:51,58 --> 01:36:58,24
ground I just can't imagine anyone
would be able make this happen. All

1139
01:36:58,40 --> 01:36:58,59
right.

1140
01:37:08,44 --> 01:37:13,89
Kevin. Do we have an
applicant present for.

1141
01:37:17,46 --> 01:37:20,69
If you do a muster with them ask
insulin's I'm really nothing dad

1142
01:37:21,03 --> 01:37:24,87
a long time waiting to get the plenary
plat here we do have site plan for

1143
01:37:24,88 --> 01:37:29,56
a lot one submitted going through staff
review so we are anxiously awaiting getting

1144
01:37:29,57 --> 01:37:32,92
that approved so we can start construction
yet this summer for that first phase.

1145
01:37:34,25 --> 01:37:38,60
Basically agree with everything that staff
has said and Dina Kevin has said that

1146
01:37:38,96 --> 01:37:44,90
bridge crossing is not feasible I mean
the sheer cost of that the density that

1147
01:37:44,94 --> 01:37:50,77
a person would have to obtain to pay for
that would do it would run out of room for

1148
01:37:50,78 --> 01:37:56,92
parking costs the bridge you know the Corps
of Engineers all those items is just

1149
01:38:01,91 --> 01:38:07,57
Area thing for a lot
when we have it probably

1150
01:38:07,58 --> 01:38:11,39
a lot of you don't remember but this was
originally submitted back in two thousand

1151
01:38:11,40 --> 01:38:18,32
and five six Yeah with with townhouses. On

1152
01:38:18,33 --> 01:38:19,42
lot one and

1153
01:38:19,46 --> 01:38:28,55
a townhouse design on all three
lot so we do have sixteen

1154
01:38:28,56 --> 01:38:33,04
units for town for four plexus of the very
similar to the project that Mike Roberts

1155
01:38:33,05 --> 01:38:37,21
did right to the south front
doors facing front street

1156
01:38:37,61 --> 01:38:43,75
a shared drive that tees in between of the
buildings all the cars behind and then

1157
01:38:43,76 --> 01:38:47,100
the units that back up to muddy creek
would have front load garages with deck

1158
01:38:48,01 --> 01:38:53,04
screen in porches overlooking muddy creek
so hopefully you will be seeing that

1159
01:38:53,24 --> 01:38:59,59
application soon going so
and then would you know

1160
01:39:00,03 --> 01:39:00,47
possibly

1161
01:39:00,48 --> 01:39:10,86
a similar product once we jump over
to the to the other side. Thank

1162
01:39:10,87 --> 01:39:17,57
you. My first resolution in my six
hundred forty seven adopting.

1163
01:39:18,64 --> 01:39:22,90
Major Street playing Amendment it's like

1164
01:39:22,91 --> 01:39:28,83
a discussion of questions. DONAHUE

1165
01:39:29,60 --> 01:39:36,45
Pollak Hofmann I I. Say. Sixteen forty

1166
01:39:36,46 --> 01:39:39,39
seven is approved next
to sixteen forty eight

1167
01:39:39,43 --> 01:39:43,36
a resolution approving the preliminary
plot agreement and establishing the terms

1168
01:39:43,37 --> 01:39:47,74
and conditions under which Roseberry stop
will be preliminary plotted in the city

1169
01:39:47,75 --> 01:39:54,42
of North Liberty Iowa you need
discussion or questions you

1170
01:39:56,33 --> 01:40:03,17
try to go out and say or Donna
you are Hofmann polic I.

1171
01:40:04,62 --> 01:40:08,34
Six hundred forty eight is approved
the next is sixteen forty nine

1172
01:40:08,35 --> 01:40:12,53
a resolution approving the preliminary
plot of Roseberry stop North Liberty Iowa.

1173
01:40:17,06 --> 01:40:23,75
Discussion Tracy called
Hofmann Pollock I say or

1174
01:40:24,52 --> 01:40:29,53
place and Donahue I sixty forty
nine is approved as well.

1175
01:40:31,56 --> 01:40:35,89
Next we have our North Liberty family
entertainment son her and Resolution sixteen

1176
01:40:35,89 --> 01:40:39,71
fifty setting a date of meeting at
which it is proposed to approve

1177
01:40:39,72 --> 01:40:43,78
a development agreement with John Bircher
including annual appropriation tax

1178
01:40:43,79 --> 01:40:48,16
increment payments in an amount not to
exceed seven hundred fifty thousand dollars

1179
01:40:48,16 --> 01:40:55,10
. Second and discussion Yes Right
now we're just approving the

1180
01:40:55,11 --> 01:41:01,89
public hearing and when I bring in
setting up selling on the seven

1181
01:41:01,90 --> 01:41:06,61
hundred fifty thousand that's what they're
not that's correct and that the only

1182
01:41:06,62 --> 01:41:08,73
thing that this resolution does is send

1183
01:41:08,74 --> 01:41:13,44
a public hearing for May
twenty fourth. Four for

1184
01:41:13,45 --> 01:41:17,57
a potential agreement for actually

1185
01:41:20,43 --> 01:41:23,09
let out such

1186
01:41:23,10 --> 01:41:29,31
a straight face to what you
said that anything else

1187
01:41:30,48 --> 01:41:35,28
could trace the group called Please
Hofmann I talk to you all right away said

1188
01:41:36,04 --> 01:41:42,14
public I say sixteen fifty years
approved next we have seek

1189
01:41:42,15 --> 01:41:47,99
a square construction site plan.
Dean Yep again I think it is

1190
01:41:48,71 --> 01:41:51,94
this goes to what I was saying
earlier there's that there's

1191
01:41:51,95 --> 01:41:56,83
a lot on the agenda in these days so this
is an industrial lot on the west side of

1192
01:41:56,84 --> 01:42:00,79
three eighty we're kind of running out
of industrial lots out there maybe some

1193
01:42:00,80 --> 01:42:07,02
developer will pick up on that and look
for look for some additional lot creation

1194
01:42:07,03 --> 01:42:11,16
but this is one of those that was left
part of the original subdivision out there

1195
01:42:11,85 --> 01:42:16,85
again of course owned industrial it's
proposed for one large built multi tenant

1196
01:42:16,86 --> 01:42:20,67
building and what makes this different
from some of the other multi-ton it

1197
01:42:20,68 --> 01:42:25,04
industrial commercial industrial buildings
that we've seen in the past is the units

1198
01:42:25,05 --> 01:42:26,90
are larger There's

1199
01:42:26,91 --> 01:42:32,40
a lot better parking provision for around
this building usually we just see there

1200
01:42:32,41 --> 01:42:37,13
are too many times when they don't have
enough there's also right up front and

1201
01:42:37,14 --> 01:42:41,12
outside storage area that's been identified
so that we don't have that ongoing

1202
01:42:41,13 --> 01:42:46,99
problem with folks who want to store things
outside and we have to you know work

1203
01:42:47,00 --> 01:42:48,54
with them later to try to find

1204
01:42:48,55 --> 01:42:54,16
a way to fit it on the site this is already
been done in addition to that there is

1205
01:42:54,20 --> 01:42:56,17
a sort of

1206
01:42:56,18 --> 01:43:00,24
a unique treatment that's proposed by the
owner for the front of the building you

1207
01:43:00,25 --> 01:43:05,42
may have seen in the in some of the building
renderings where his business is metal

1208
01:43:05,43 --> 01:43:07,13
work and he proposes to create

1209
01:43:07,14 --> 01:43:13,07
a screen sort of on the entrance or toward
front of the building that might ripple

1210
01:43:13,08 --> 01:43:16,55
as you as you drive past the
building so it's sort of

1211
01:43:16,56 --> 01:43:22,78
a sawtooth pattern and it's got a. A metal

1212
01:43:22,96 --> 01:43:28,00
a pattern in the metal in the metal that I
believe is called Moyet but I'm not sure

1213
01:43:28,01 --> 01:43:31,66
if that's how you say it or not but it's
one of those like homes to go that get it

1214
01:43:32,15 --> 01:43:37,87
does funny things to your eyes if you
look at it so anyway this is one of the

1215
01:43:37,88 --> 01:43:39,86
wisest pretty straightforward
so I plan with

1216
01:43:39,87 --> 01:43:45,88
a building in the middle of parking around
it and. In the middle building look just

1217
01:43:45,89 --> 01:43:49,65
a little bit more possesses than usual in
an industrial district recommended for

1218
01:43:49,66 --> 01:43:50,02
approval

1219
01:43:58,45 --> 01:44:03,24
for me I mean you see it all over the
street trailers thing else is parked there

1220
01:44:03,25 --> 01:44:07,40
forever so the songs
over and of the game and

1221
01:44:12,35 --> 01:44:16,86
yeah this is another one where the staff
recommended that you don't need all that

1222
01:44:16,87 --> 01:44:21,59
much parking you could cut it back and
end up with some more green space but

1223
01:44:21,93 --> 01:44:24,78
honestly this is an industrial
area and green space is

1224
01:44:24,79 --> 01:44:28,47
a quite as important here and the owner
felt strongly that he wanted to provide

1225
01:44:28,48 --> 01:44:35,37
that much parking we

1226
01:44:35,38 --> 01:44:42,26
have enough good presentation big
night for you to have really nothing

1227
01:44:42,27 --> 01:44:48,48
else and I'd be happy answering
questions thank you.

1228
01:44:54,20 --> 01:44:58,59
Resolution six hundred fifty one approving
the development site plan for I three

1229
01:44:58,60 --> 01:45:05,22
eighty industrial park lot nine
north of thirty Iowa some. More

1230
01:45:05,23 --> 01:45:11,99
discussion or questions
Tracy Donahue Pollak

1231
01:45:12,03 --> 01:45:18,87
by way said Hofmann say and
sixteen do you want is approved

1232
01:45:19,41 --> 01:45:25,16
next we have. The Penn meadow
splash pad project saw

1233
01:45:25,16 --> 01:45:28,98
a file with no there's no objection I will
now open the public hearing regarding

1234
01:45:28,100 --> 01:45:30,65
plan specifications form

1235
01:45:30,66 --> 01:45:35,96
a contract an estimate of costs for the
splash pet project is there anyone here

1236
01:45:35,97 --> 01:45:40,05
tonight that lends to
speak to that project

1237
01:45:43,67 --> 01:45:50,46
OK Seeing no movement I will not close the
public hearing with no objection. And we

1238
01:45:50,47 --> 01:45:54,94
have resolution six hundred fifty two
finally approving and confirming plans

1239
01:45:54,95 --> 01:45:56,04
specifications form

1240
01:45:56,05 --> 01:46:01,95
a contract an estimate of costs for the
metals park splash pad project so.

1241
01:46:04,89 --> 01:46:10,39
Discussion just go ahead and well I was
just Kevin since you're born at the

1242
01:46:10,40 --> 01:46:15,78
beginning I don't know if we can I really
like Jim the idea about when you put it

1243
01:46:15,79 --> 01:46:20,53
out to bed can we have kind of that as with
the sea wall as we kind of have in the

1244
01:46:20,54 --> 01:46:26,25
drawing here or without the sea wall and
what that would be will do our best

1245
01:46:29,20 --> 01:46:31,76
we could always add that as

1246
01:46:31,77 --> 01:46:37,14
a project so if that if it if it can get
out you know we could find to make it do

1247
01:46:37,15 --> 01:46:43,97
it so. They could look cool but.
That Kevin to add it later we talked

1248
01:46:43,98 --> 01:46:50,86
a little bit about that.
Concrete wall this. Guy does

1249
01:46:51,04 --> 01:46:57,96
either one. Factory like the concrete
one. But I guess my question

1250
01:46:57,97 --> 01:47:03,38
is or to follow up on Brian's can it would
be for us to go in after the pad is

1251
01:47:03,39 --> 01:47:07,49
placed it would be I thought I understood
you to say would be difficult to put

1252
01:47:07,50 --> 01:47:11,53
a wall into the concrete one that would
show you know the footing because it

1253
01:47:11,75 --> 01:47:18,69
partially goes on but. You know.
We could do. You have to step back

1254
01:47:18,70 --> 01:47:24,54
something. Like keep it from. You know.

1255
01:47:25,71 --> 01:47:30,53
The water's going to just drain you should
go straight through this is really to

1256
01:47:30,54 --> 01:47:36,18
keep as Kevin mentioned bikes and other
things that should be in there I think of

1257
01:47:36,59 --> 01:47:40,16
from my perspective that we can solve
that somehow whether it's the sea wall or

1258
01:47:40,17 --> 01:47:46,28
other. But I think I think we will solve
it it just may not be with us it's the

1259
01:47:46,29 --> 01:47:48,05
chance that the seawall is posing

1260
01:47:48,06 --> 01:47:52,42
a difficulty as it was explained to me
it's pretty specialized work first to

1261
01:47:52,46 --> 01:47:53,02
construct

1262
01:47:53,03 --> 01:47:57,49
a splash pad and that's what they do and
in there as Kevin mentioned we're just

1263
01:47:57,50 --> 01:47:57,72
having

1264
01:47:57,73 --> 01:48:01,86
a hard time finding people think we called
somebody in Nebraska to try to get into

1265
01:48:02,45 --> 01:48:06,14
them over and they were
they were busy so it's just

1266
01:48:06,15 --> 01:48:12,66
a matter of finding somebody
doesn't work. A lot

1267
01:48:12,67 --> 01:48:18,78
and I'm sure obviously seat while having
places for you know to sit down and

1268
01:48:19,71 --> 01:48:25,87
be on just one hundred ground and I
think that the I'm understanding

1269
01:48:26,83 --> 01:48:29,84
can correctly I think I am is
it would be a higher would be

1270
01:48:29,85 --> 01:48:31,47
a bigger rock so it wouldn't be like

1271
01:48:31,48 --> 01:48:37,75
a curb stop or something you need bigger
right up there we can. Decorative and also

1272
01:48:37,96 --> 01:48:44,60
used to sit on him and he People guy was
here you know better because he said

1273
01:48:44,61 --> 01:48:51,49
that's also curb I'm not sure we're thinking
it. Would be your standard one line

1274
01:48:53,89 --> 01:48:55,70
and we have some ideas I guess you know

1275
01:48:56,06 --> 01:48:59,84
a little bit more decorative use in those
limestone blocks and sort of just the

1276
01:48:59,85 --> 01:49:03,26
seat wall that's on the planet so I'm
actually kind of hoping that the seawall

1277
01:49:03,27 --> 01:49:06,99
doesn't get constructed nobody wants to
put it up and I'm more excited about what

1278
01:49:07,00 --> 01:49:13,78
Guy might have in mind for this
study. Looking for safety rises kids.

1279
01:49:15,21 --> 01:49:22,12
Are in so what we are hazard your is
without the Super Bowl OK Well no

1280
01:49:22,13 --> 01:49:23,84
the plans are still you are doing

1281
01:49:23,85 --> 01:49:27,60
a denim what were passing other plans
as you did I don't know if you had the

1282
01:49:27,61 --> 01:49:32,78
opportunity to come in look at them but
that the plans are what would be approved

1283
01:49:32,79 --> 01:49:38,45
and then Kevin and Chad would have to do
an addendum to the contract to take out

1284
01:49:40,68 --> 01:49:44,38
Yeah well this but have

1285
01:49:44,39 --> 01:49:48,36
a fence around it sometimes you you know.

1286
01:49:53,67 --> 01:49:54,96
Ideally under the hundred K.

1287
01:49:55,33 --> 01:50:00,95
Regardless of what you have
the cost of come back down

1288
01:50:02,15 --> 01:50:08,05
that's what your identify is not only
taking that seawall out but it also should

1289
01:50:08,11 --> 01:50:12,83
give us an expectation of cost if
that seat was not on the plans

1290
01:50:15,25 --> 01:50:19,03
well the users at best might go down yes.

1291
01:50:26,02 --> 01:50:31,15
Permanently So you had mentioned our
previous mean I think that the goal in some

1292
01:50:31,16 --> 01:50:35,34
way then this would be operational August
is that sort of stuff on the timeline is

1293
01:50:35,58 --> 01:50:42,14
OK so I'm going with my
children and sixteen this would

1294
01:50:42,18 --> 01:50:46,51
expedite that construction because then
they would not reduce the wall yeah we'd

1295
01:50:46,52 --> 01:50:52,13
get down I'm sure guy could
mix up a nice. Dinner for

1296
01:50:52,15 --> 01:50:58,44
a little bit yeah he
deserves OK So anything else

1297
01:50:59,55 --> 01:51:06,11
trace you call please public I say
or I Hofmann I place an Donahue

1298
01:51:06,21 --> 01:51:11,69
I think that's

1299
01:51:11,70 --> 01:51:16,86
a sixteen fifty two disapproved. Of another
public hearing so I will go ahead and

1300
01:51:16,87 --> 01:51:21,19
go and open the public hearing regarding
the proposed ordinance ordinance amendment

1301
01:51:21,20 --> 01:51:26,85
to add public signs to the zoning code
is there anyone here that wants to make

1302
01:51:26,86 --> 01:51:28,51
a comment about public signs.

1303
01:51:33,94 --> 01:51:37,80
And then if there is no objection I will
not close the public hearing and we'll

1304
01:51:37,81 --> 01:51:42,23
have first consideration of ordinance
twenty sixteen zero five amending the North

1305
01:51:42,24 --> 01:51:47,14
Liberty code of ordinances by updating
chapter one seventy three so in code sign

1306
01:51:47,15 --> 01:51:50,74
regulations to add language
regarding public use signs

1307
01:51:54,78 --> 01:51:59,47
their discussion questions what are we doing
different than any damage done before

1308
01:51:59,90 --> 01:52:03,55
say this is articulated both by the Planning
Commission and the or the reason this

1309
01:52:03,56 --> 01:52:10,29
came up is because in the public zone.
In the zone called public which

1310
01:52:10,33 --> 01:52:16,36
is city property school and school property
almost exclusively. I think there's

1311
01:52:16,37 --> 01:52:21,73
anything else in the public zone we had
no side regulations at all well the new

1312
01:52:21,74 --> 01:52:22,75
high school would like to have

1313
01:52:22,76 --> 01:52:29,25
a sign and. Others already have
signs of not sure how they

1314
01:52:30,19 --> 01:52:31,24
house I think we have

1315
01:52:31,25 --> 01:52:35,81
a couple churches and public zones maybe
that that were granted sides but in any

1316
01:52:35,82 --> 01:52:40,77
case we needed to add the public zone
somewhere in the in the science section of

1317
01:52:40,79 --> 01:52:46,74
the code so that we could work with the
schools to get them adequate signage this

1318
01:52:46,75 --> 01:52:53,08
would were it were reinserted it was in the
commercial zones that would the lowest

1319
01:52:53,09 --> 01:52:56,93
level commercial zones that we might expect
of there called neighborhood commercial

1320
01:52:56,94 --> 01:53:02,45
so they might be expected to be up against
residential areas so that seemed to be

1321
01:53:02,47 --> 01:53:09,08
the best bet for. Going
to minimalist signs

1322
01:53:09,88 --> 01:53:15,67
that schools or maybe city parks even
would want to have. Forty square feet.

1323
01:53:16,77 --> 01:53:19,39
For building walls and
fifty square feet for

1324
01:53:19,40 --> 01:53:23,65
a ground mounted sign I did check with the
high school and and there are protected

1325
01:53:23,66 --> 01:53:26,52
that would accommodate the the
ground sign for the new high school

1326
01:53:32,93 --> 01:53:35,25
I really only see this
impacting the schools

1327
01:53:40,71 --> 01:53:47,49
something for their tree thing
called. Pollock Hofmann I say or

1328
01:53:47,79 --> 01:53:54,62
by the time of the. First consideration
passes do we have any old

1329
01:53:54,63 --> 01:54:00,89
business OK about some new business.

1330
01:54:04,73 --> 01:54:10,78
But I think. It would be good if we could
talk about that intersection hence union

1331
01:54:10,79 --> 01:54:15,19
steward strengthening future I don't know
if they want to get some additional data

1332
01:54:15,20 --> 01:54:19,81
I'm not sure exactly what at this point
but I think kind of helping answer

1333
01:54:19,86 --> 01:54:23,68
questions a lot of people
haven't been going to have

1334
01:54:23,69 --> 01:54:30,52
a little additional discussion.
War analysis or whatever. I

1335
01:54:30,53 --> 01:54:34,22
just don't think that the terminology swept
under the rug is correct at all in this

1336
01:54:34,23 --> 01:54:36,37
case we've kept an eye
on that intersection for

1337
01:54:36,38 --> 01:54:41,40
a long time and I think this studies go
back to at least two thousand and five I

1338
01:54:41,41 --> 01:54:48,21
found what three this afternoon.
And the most recent one was two

1339
01:54:48,22 --> 01:54:53,94
years ago. Or it was at that I'm sorry I
just write and ask before and so after

1340
01:54:53,95 --> 01:55:00,63
noon and. We have had I
mean we try to we try in.

1341
01:55:02,69 --> 01:55:09,56
In almost every instance to make the
decisions for traffic control based on

1342
01:55:09,60 --> 01:55:14,44
professional recommendations which is not
to say of course that US counsel can't do

1343
01:55:14,45 --> 01:55:19,28
otherwise but we have tried very hard to
do that because once you open the door and

1344
01:55:19,29 --> 01:55:24,73
start placing signs where they aren't or
that there isn't a warrant met to place

1345
01:55:24,74 --> 01:55:29,58
a science then you open the door and I can
go anywhere then where do you say no so

1346
01:55:29,59 --> 01:55:29,93
it's

1347
01:55:29,94 --> 01:55:34,49
a very Now maybe in some circumstances you
decide it's appropriate I'm not you know

1348
01:55:34,50 --> 01:55:38,85
I don't mean to say that it should never
be done but the point is we have been

1349
01:55:38,86 --> 01:55:43,57
looking at this intersection we were have
been concerned about it and there have

1350
01:55:43,58 --> 01:55:50,35
been steps taken to try to to to
increase sight distance there for

1351
01:55:50,36 --> 01:55:52,57
example we had assigned taken down

1352
01:55:52,58 --> 01:55:59,53
a couple years ago of. With
directions to. The roads for

1353
01:56:00,40 --> 01:56:05,11
I think the the striping for the crosswalk
was repainted I believe not too long ago

1354
01:56:05,12 --> 01:56:05,18
in

1355
01:56:05,19 --> 01:56:09,52
a little different location so we have had
recommendations from the Metropolitan Planning

1356
01:56:09,53 --> 01:56:14,61
Organization we followed some of those. I
think we followed them all but I'm I'm

1357
01:56:14,62 --> 01:56:18,43
not positive because I didn't have time to
look into it before the meeting tonight

1358
01:56:18,49 --> 01:56:23,28
but it's definitely not something that's
been avoided swept under the rug or

1359
01:56:23,29 --> 01:56:30,03
intentionally in any way
ignored. As you can the

1360
01:56:30,04 --> 01:56:35,55
council sure sure yes yes and. I just made

1361
01:56:35,56 --> 01:56:36,91
a note here I think what
we can do is provide

1362
01:56:36,92 --> 01:56:40,68
a summary of what has been looked at and
still looking at today I mean that's part

1363
01:56:40,69 --> 01:56:47,63
of what our transit Arnette transit traffic
safety taskforce I think we've called

1364
01:56:47,64 --> 01:56:51,31
it that they're looking at in addition to

1365
01:56:51,61 --> 01:56:54,99
a number of other areas that will be
impacted with the four hundred students that

1366
01:56:55,26 --> 01:56:58,00
want have mussing cell. At That's

1367
01:56:58,01 --> 01:57:04,92
a good point we can certainly put some.
Good history of what has can and looked at

1368
01:57:04,98 --> 01:57:10,99
and then talk about. Through for through
the task force process what other things

1369
01:57:11,00 --> 01:57:16,89
might be possible. Complaint
from the president about the

1370
01:57:17,75 --> 01:57:21,67
shrubs on the north side of Penn street
there that had grown out over the sidewalk

1371
01:57:21,68 --> 01:57:25,72
and we're keeping kids from being able
to ride their bikes safely and and

1372
01:57:25,73 --> 01:57:30,95
pedestrians from being able to use that
corner still are for some an officer is

1373
01:57:30,96 --> 01:57:35,55
visited with that owner and if they have
it I would imagine they've been taken care

1374
01:57:35,56 --> 01:57:39,29
of by you know but that's
another you know just

1375
01:57:39,30 --> 01:57:45,45
a recent effort that's that's been made
so it's just how it in that one location

1376
01:57:45,46 --> 01:57:50,82
and you know that city staff are out all
the time trying to solve these sorts of

1377
01:57:50,83 --> 01:57:57,00
problems. If we haven't done
award analysis in the few years.

1378
01:57:59,14 --> 01:58:05,31
In anticipation of the students
coming from that North Korea down.

1379
01:58:06,39 --> 01:58:12,86
Knowing that load is now if it's close to
meeting give you some perspective the.

1380
01:58:14,02 --> 01:58:15,31
Well Fed doesn't do we make

1381
01:58:15,32 --> 01:58:18,71
a decision to do something differently
anyways based on what we would learn from

1382
01:58:18,72 --> 01:58:25,42
that might be important.
To the council that the

1383
01:58:25,43 --> 01:58:29,81
last study that was done I don't I'm
sure it wasn't more than two years ago.

1384
01:58:32,61 --> 01:58:37,96
You know what you are advised to use your
work session to discuss how we can add to

1385
01:58:37,97 --> 01:58:43,84
a. Problem meeting agenda if we if we want
to take action we probably would have

1386
01:58:43,85 --> 01:58:49,26
done it in anticipation of routing traffic
around nine sixty five being closed. I'm

1387
01:58:49,68 --> 01:58:53,01
guessing that's the last time we had I mean
it was we would have looked at it then

1388
01:58:59,19 --> 01:59:03,48
so anything else was just

1389
01:59:03,49 --> 01:59:06,82
a shout out to the library I thought
it was great that there or nationally

1390
01:59:06,83 --> 01:59:11,58
recognized for their read to the world
program so that was kind of cool in the

1391
01:59:11,59 --> 01:59:13,61
packet So write your team is doing

1392
01:59:13,62 --> 01:59:17,52
a phenomenal job but I just thought that
was kind of extra neat that we were

1393
01:59:17,63 --> 01:59:23,18
actually recognized from the
library perspective are nice

1394
01:59:24,61 --> 01:59:24,84
very.

1395
01:59:32,99 --> 01:59:39,20
Well and if there's no objection. We are
joined and we move into our exam session

1396
01:59:39,92 --> 01:59:40,78
pursuant to I have

1397
01:59:40,79 --> 02:41:01,45
a Code Section twenty point
seventeen three. Call

1398
02:41:01,46 --> 02:41:08,15
to order our regular session
it is May tenth for

1399
02:41:08,71 --> 02:41:14,29
North Liberty City Council Tracy we have
roll call so we Donohue Hofman here

1400
02:41:14,58 --> 02:41:17,92
Pollock here say are you wasting your.

1401
02:41:21,89 --> 02:41:22,42
Yes this is

1402
02:41:22,43 --> 02:41:30,45
a second rate. Third

1403
02:41:30,45 --> 02:41:36,60
. We have resolution sixteen fifty three
approving the collective bargaining

1404
02:41:36,62 --> 02:41:40,10
agreement between the city of North Liberty
and public professional and maintenance

1405
02:41:40,10 --> 02:41:45,32
employees local two thousand and three for
the period of July first twenty sixteen

1406
02:41:45,38 --> 02:41:51,28
through June thirtieth twenty
nineteen we have any discussion of

1407
02:41:53,91 --> 02:42:00,48
interest. Hofmann say or Pollock Donahue.

1408
02:42:02,16 --> 02:42:09,07
When he said. And Resolution six hundred
fifty three is approved and if there is no

1409
02:42:09,08 --> 02:42:11,01
objection again adjourned.