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Afternoon like to invite tell media
members to take your seat at this time

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we are in the afternoon session of the fall
in you will tell meeting and I've been

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corrected we are here on October twenty
first which is Saturday so for those of you

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watching live on Saturday October twenty
first we here at Plymouth North High

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School located in Obree Street we are
here at the center or performing arts

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we are in our afternoon session and we
will continue with the warrant we have

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before us on Article twenty six we have

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a motion. Mr Salerno move the town vote
to transfer the care custody and control

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of the parcel of land located of four
ninety along one road as shown on assessors

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map zero seventy seven and A as
parcels zero zero zero. Zero

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zero seven zero zero zero and known as
the Plymouth South High School from the

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school committee for school related
purposes to the school committee for such

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purposes into the board of selectmen for
the sole purpose of leasing one or more

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open air parking areas and related property
located on such parcel of land and you

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have the full text of the motion meant to
slur will be addressing it there is to

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learn no chair the advisory finance committee
Welcome thank you the advisory and

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finance committee and

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a unanimous vote of twelve zero zero
recommends time meeting approved article

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twenty pool of the Sakho will effect

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a technical transfer of the care and custody
of the National containing from the

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South High School Plymouth South Middle
School. To the school committee and board

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of selectmen for the purpose of leasing
parking in related property and granting

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easements required for the parking lot
solar arrays this step is required

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because this project is different from
previous projects as this solar product is

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installed. Thank you thank you Dr
Gary my as does superintendent

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women public schools welcome Article
twenty six Thank you Mr Moderator

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Good afternoon everyone I have the
pleasure of speaking on articles

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other articles to follow twenty seven
twenty nine relatives solar project that

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I've been working on high school in
the fields you and April to extend

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borrowing increased borrowing for the turf
fields in the South High School and when

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we did present that
opportunity we headed to

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a town meeting that we were looking
at another project the lights on

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so the three articles that are in front
of you today are essentially to install

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solar panels and lights
that we have prepared

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a short video it's all that will give
you an idea of how all these other and

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how they impact information
that we could through Mr

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Moderator like showed video of. The

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opening of the new messiah high school
the Plymouth public schools continues to

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expand its renewable energy program with
the solar lighting project with storage

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capabilities for the new South High School
on this solar energy initiative also

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known as P.V.

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Our photo voltaic project breaks new ground
for renewable electric energy in New

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England

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a completed renewable energy project on
generate over fifty percent of the electricity

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needs of the building and sports fields the
price of the solar electricity is cost

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competitive saving thousands and annual
utility lighting costs and cover the

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capital investment in sports field lighting
fixtures with no expenditure from the

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town. The innovative solar renewable
electricity systems for Kozel consists of

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three distinct components
the solar panels will be

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distributed to the roof of planet South
High School as well as the parking lot the

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combined solar panels will generate over
one half of the new school's electricity

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consumption This will include nine hundred
rooftop panels twelve hundred carport

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panels which will cover one hundred eighty
parking spots at South High School the

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solar electricity will be stored in managed
through East Orange battery technology

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solar electricity will be stored in the
dance lithium ion or nickel cadmium

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batteries during peak solar energy production
these solar in the storage batteries

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will provide low cost electricity for
nightime sports lighting the installation of

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nineteen athletic field lights with high
efficiency fifteen hundred watt metal

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halide fixtures located on the two new
athletic turf fields. The design flow of

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electrons the would be from the solar
panels on the roof of the school and the

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parking lot car cart canopies into the
south electric ground to serve the

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electricity demands of the school and to
charge East storage batteries on many days

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the solar panels can meet

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a large percentage of the electricity needs
of the school while also storing energy

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needed for the lighting of the new turf
fields the plan itself solar energy project

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costs are given totally funded by the chosen
developer current estimated costs for

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the project components are four point eight
million dollars not including possible

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grants and incentives. Much like the
district's other solar projects this district

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will purchase electricity from the
developer for the next twenty years at

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a competitive price saving the district
funds in obtaining sports lighting with no

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capital investment in the town
of Gonesse. Here the articles

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curtaining to the renewable energy program
at the next South High School. Article

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twenty six addresses the
school's authority to lease

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a portion of the non building property
while state laws allow school committee to

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be space in

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a school building without town meeting
approval of the siting of summer canopies in

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the parking lot would involve
the leasing space other than

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a school building and would require the
town meeting approval for this reason town

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meeting is being asked to transfer the
property from Soli school use to the joint

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purposes of school use in leasing with
the Board of Selectmen undertaking the

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leasing. Article twenty seven authorizes
the Board of Selectmen to negotiate with

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their successful solar developer

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a payment in lieu of taxes this authorization
is limited to the specific project

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which is located on the grounds of the
must sell high and middle schools funds

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received from this agreement will be deposited
into the town's Treasury in the same

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. Manner as other highway complainants
article twenty nine addresses the

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requirement posed by the passage of
municipal modernization which requires two

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thirds about a town meeting to approve

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a lease purchase complete as part of this
project the field lighting fixtures will

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be beast for ten years with the school
district taking ownership after the

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completion of the.

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Thank you for the discussion Article twenty
six yes we made it please come forward

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we're debating Article twenty
six in your town meeting

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yes with respect to the lighting
portion of the project I have

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a question for the school committee will
these. You know what would be the turn on

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and turn off times for these nighttime
lights and will they comply with the

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Plymouth dark sky by law with respect
to horizontal cut off and the other

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requirements and that by law Thank you
Dr amazed as you think it was MODERATOR

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Yes Mr Abbott. The lights and the adjust
on the lights will meet dark sky by

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law that is imposed by the town of Plymouth
and we do have agreements with our

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other fields that lights are turned off by
ten pm and that we will monitor for the

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duration given Lynch media
member Dr Maizes. Real

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quick question acknowledgement that was
put together by the high tech together by

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our staff here and students here at Plymouth
law school I thought it was fantastic

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unbelievably professional demonstration
and perhaps we might prevail upon you to

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maybe do that for articles other articles.
Because you've presented it so well

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thank you. Thank you for the
discussion we're hearing from Michael

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Landers my cleaners Precinct thirteen first
of all I want to say I'm in support of

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this. There are

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a couple of things that jumped out at me
and I know my questions have been answered

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but I'd like to hear it directly that.
Typically when we when we've awarded

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to for grievance with various companies
over the years. The presenters come in with

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the with all of the cost in the the identity
of the actual contractors that through

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the bid process that's already happened
this is an unusual situation due to cost

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savings and everything else and I do
understand all of that however I wouldn't want

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to relinquish that ability of town meeting
in typically in that situation I'd like

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to know that this is this is a
one time non precedent setting

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a bad as far as as far as the to for
treatments and so forth and the funding of the

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of this particular project Yes and that's
relative to Article twenty seven we did

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hear some concern from members of the
Finance Committee when we presented it to

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them and the language was changed
in the article to meet specific the

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requirements for this project only keep
in mind that agreement of this nature can

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be bargained or not in the sense if it was
bargained it would cause that the price

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to go up a little bit on the
kilowatt hour but if that wasn't

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a pilot agreement to drop
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a matter of how that agreement went but
it's Pacific to this project to this

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property thank you so we can expect.
Similar projects with further long

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range planning to come forward to
us thank you it would rustle. And

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also greasing twelve if we're taking over
this instance and I think I heard ten

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years what are we getting we're
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a tremendously long life or are we going
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that's

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a really good question after ten years we
own the we will own the town of Plymouth

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will own the stadium lights at the close
of twenty years the project the solar

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lighting will have to be agreed upon that
the company that developed it would have

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or we would have to negotiate

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a successor agreement so at the close
of twenty developer has full rights

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to maintain it and keep it up and running
anything breaks they have to put it's

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a twenty year period of time for the lighting
component after ten years the lights

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become the school districts until the
ten year period of time is up in the

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lights if they break that the rich

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and when Costello. Allan Costello
precinct ten water it I was going to

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ask about some follow up on the kilowatt
hours just the right of the kilowatt hour

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pricing that there are all three all three
of them together are we doing to get

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into that isn't it for all three so OK
earlier in October at the committee precinct

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chairs meeting member of
your staff to the president

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very nice presentation however to my
surprise he had mentioned that the bid was

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going to be doing the very next day again
earlier so the surprise me but I've had

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people tell me that this is commonplace
even though the article has not been

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approved the bid process has gone but
my question now is what did that big

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committee out what we can be talking
about specifics now what is the specific

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kilowatt hour so we can start to do the
math whether the Finance Committee does it

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or the finance department so we can actually
put numbers to this what was the bit

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winning bid or whether multiple
bids or have you chosen

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a contract at this time
well it wasn't a bit it was

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a rule so we asked we put it on the
street and there were three companies

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that received and no nothing has been
awarded and we cannot divulge the facts of

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those so we hypothetically
use. And which Well I would

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say that. We are looking at

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a kilowatt hour price that would
be between ten to fifteen

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earlier presentations had it closer to
eight cents but ten to fifteen about ten

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a project is still viable

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a ten defendants and keep in mind
that that estimate is based on can

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be applied to grants that
developers going to again that

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something partner that we bring
to the tape can demonstrate us

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long term state how far would
you suggest you would have that

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information that you could legally pass on
to this body so we can make an educated

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decision on the well I that's going to
take negotiation with each one of the

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vendors that appearance so we have to
walk as well so that they can provide

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a more clarified contract there's

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a great deal of negotiation
that has that we don't have

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a definite accurate price
of what they can so that's

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something that's to beat it's all right
thank you Michael been making is more

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a question for Dr my assays again that was

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a fantastic. The the sell
the photos cells and the

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canopies Yes I is at the
end of the agreement yes

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does the town have the right
to either accept them as as

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a gift or have the develop becoming and
take them down do they have that option

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it's in the contract that if we do award a
contract with the three vendors there's

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a buy it out of the lease at the end

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of these thank you and will they be and
move they be required to post the bond to

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be sure to make you very much what it is
fun at least the precinct leaders of on

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Precinct fifteen I understand that we're
discussing roles for the four point eight

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million I understand is no capital when
they're article twenty nine you're entering

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into is another form
essentially that her borrowing

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the lease purchase agreement is relative
to demands of the bill to let's say we

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are using X.

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Amount of kilowatt the
bargain agreement so

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even though he has

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a right that's priced based on kilo I don't
know if they total cost us for and the

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way the project works plain to some of
the. That we've talked to the way this

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project has

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a requirement for it's
necessary to and search

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is the battery store to see all the
equipment what they do is they go out there

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and they on their own they
borrow money what they

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also do is they apply for grants that help
the poor to bring the cloth and there

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a great deal of grants right now or
they will maximize what they will

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do is then they will and we will

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pay the price so let's say and Star

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is going to charge twenty
five cents and we would get

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it at

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a fraction of the cost that it
would so we would see if we need

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energy anyway buy it through the
solar process and we realize

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a significant savings in what we could buy
it for on this so the payment that we're

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paying on our kilowatt hour price on our
monthly bills is not only paying for the

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power but it's paying for the lights that
are installed on the Field thank you

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you're welcome to enjoy precinct fifteen

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a good moderator. Would this system
be subject to the newly established

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pilot program that tell me an established
couple of town meetings ago about.

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The pilot program the the rate you know
I'm not aware of that you're not aware of

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that I'm not aware of what that rate might
be but if someone I don't have you some

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can tell me can you see
that up through the

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the net now Mr Joyce My wife just me it's
that pawn money that we're putting aside

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fifty percent of the pie the program is
to use to the pawns research and so forth

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so in

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a sense and if he goes into the general fund
the board of selectmen has the opportunity

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to negotiate that agreement so that would
be up to the poor selection to determine

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what is inserted into that agreement so I
would say that what you're talking about

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would be counterpart of that so it most
likely would happen I think I would say so

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yes. In untold Zuckerman.
Raising fifteen. I strongly

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support this project and
suggested that therefore. I

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suggested again that the town of polygamous
create some sort of incentive to

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install solar equipment solar
systems all public buildings.

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And believe us I know that limits basically
is very good and solar but there is

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exceptions like to plan hills that have no
reasonable restrictions the solar panels

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and I how and when and if the racing

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fifteen minutes. Climb hills
development would finally

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become

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a part of that town of Full of us instead
of use of solar energy thank you thank

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you for the discussion
during the run will call for

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a vote this is a two thirds
vote I will first take

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a voice vote all those in
favor say aye. Both say no

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motion carries Article twenty seven it's

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a slur to move the town vote to authorize
the Board of Selectmen to enter into one

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or more agreement for payment in lieu of
taxes or pilot pursuant to General Laws

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Chapter fifty nine section thirty
eight H B or other enabling authority

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comes to slur no invites
me in Finance Committee in

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a unanimous vote of twelve zero zero
recommends time meaning approve Article twenty

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seven approval of this out I will allow
the Selectmen to enter into pilot

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agreements if they choose to do so for the
solar array project at Plymouth South

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High School in Plymouth South Middle
School. The committee amended the original

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article to limit the selectmen pilot agreement
authority to Plymouth so high school

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and middle school discussion in Article
twenty seven if not called for

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a vote all those in favor say I. Will say
no or she carries unanimously Article

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twenty eight is drawn we've been moved to
Article twenty nine and mistress learner

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moves the tombo to authorize the school
committing to enter into lease purchase

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financing agreements for such purposes for
terms of years or more than three years

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and up to the useful light life of letting
equipment and all related structures and

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other equipment you have the text Mr
Salerno it's a two thirds vote in

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a roll call if it's not unanimous slow
the advisory and finance committee in

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a unanimous vote of twelve zero zero
recommends town meeting approve article twenty

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nine approval of this article will allow
the school committee to enter into

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a lease purchase agreement for the
installation of have let IT field lighting at

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Plymouth South High School the developer
will require will be required to purchase

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and install L.E.D.

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Lighting on two multi-purpose sports fields
encompassing seven acres the school in

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turn agrees to buy electricity
from the developer over

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a ten year period with the school district
taking ownership of the lighting in the

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eleventh year the rate the school will
pay for the solar generated project is

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projected to be lower than they would pay
without the project discussion during one

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call for

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a vote all's in favor say aye. Both say no.
Motion carries unanimously United also

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announced that an Article twenty six that
was unanimous Article thirty Mr learn of

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moves the book to amend the zoning by
laws Section two hundred five dash twelve

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design review board by deleting the
appearance code section in its entirety in

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amending associated items as provided
on pages to all five to thirteen of the

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report in recommendations of the advisory
and finance committee is to slur know the

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advisory and finance committee in

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a unanimous vote of trade ten zero zero
recommends town meeting approve Article

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thirty approval of this article will
amend the zoning bylaw section to

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a five dash twelve design review boy by
deleting the entire section since the board

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was

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a stablished in one thousand nine hundred
seventy two the level of design knowledge

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of the planning board zoning boy House
staff and consultants has increased

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significantly so that the design review
board is no longer needed the board has not

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met since June of two thousand foot for
the discussions hearing on call for

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a vote ols in favor say aye both

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a no. Now call for electronic

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voting and this is an Article
thirty one the late design you can

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vote it was not a unanimous vote
this is a two thirds vote in

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a roll call because we're mending the zoning
by law and you can now vote the light

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is on you have twenty seconds I believe
that shows one hundred thirty seven we only

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have one hundred thirty five but there are

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a couple extra clickers that are available
in the event one is defective So that's

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the reason for the number we're continuing
to vote and now voting is completed

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the light is off and we will now hear
one zero six voting in favor eight

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in opposition the motion carries by more
than two thirds. Based on our earlier vote

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of changing the order the articles we now
move the moderator thirty nine Mr Serco I

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have

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a question could I move to. Look at another
radical again to bring it up again I

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tickle sixteen at this time and
I know you got that ballot but.

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Missed the SCIRI code did you vote on the
prevailing sigh I get I voted no you

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voted no it's

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a good article sixteen and now you wish to
move to reconsider I do said and because

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you voted on the prevailing side. In Mr
plays it will be a fight that will have

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a verified by the electronic voting company
but will proceed and to hear you on

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your motion to reconsider Yes I've been
asked by some of the residents in that area

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if we if I would consider that and
I would the fact that taxpayers

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a live there OK anyone else get to be
reconsider on the motion reconsider Mary

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Ellen Burns please come forward to
the microphone if you could. Is

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a West Plymouth Meeting member and she's
also speaking on the motion to reconsider

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. Actually Mr Moderator my when
this came up on the screen my

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vote was not registered thank you could
like to reconsider your speaking in favor

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requiring breast see yes but it did not
register you're talking about the last

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the one that just came up could you please
see Mr Alosi in the electronic voting

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people over there what was your
vote. It was yes thank you.

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Next on the motion to reconsider Mr
Butterfield Yukio to be heard on that yes

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please Sam Butterfield precinct four as I
stated during the earlier discussion on

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Obery street I'm

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a resident of Overstreet and
I asked Gerry to consider

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reconsidering this vote so that we
could. Hear some debate or discussion

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at least on the on the merits of the whole
thing which it didn't appear to me we

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were able. To do that earlier
discussion so. I think there's

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a lot to recommend it and I think that
the town meeting did not have the

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opportunity to fully consider all of the
issues thank you thank you for the debate

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on the motion to reconsider it is
a majority vote I will call for

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a vote if there is no more discussion all
those in favor of reconsidering Article

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sixteen say I. Both say no. Shares and

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I will have an electronic voting tabulation
on whether to reconsider Article

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sixteen so when the light goes on you'll
be voting as to whether or not to

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reconsider Article sixteen it is

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a majority vote on this vote want to make
sure that everybody can register their

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vote as it comes up on the screen please
check after to make sure you have been

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registered we are voting to reconsider
Article sixteen the leg will go on and you

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can vote. You'll have twenty seconds in
which to cast your vote you can now vote

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whether to reconsider Article sixteen

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a yes is one no is two an abstention is
three and will be recorded please check

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your votes after we're about halfway
through the electronic voting on this

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procedural motion to reconsider Article
sixteen this is plus and you will tell

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meeting is coming to you from Plymouth North
of the school forty eight having voted

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in favor seventy two in opposition the
motion does not carry We will go back to

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the warrant less there are other procedural
motions to come before this meeting

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if not we will continue with Article
thirty nine which is based on our earlier

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motion to change the order of the articles
under Article thirty nine Mr Salerno

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moves the vote to amend the
zoning by law by adopting

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a new bylaw intitled commercial marijuana
establishments as provided on pages

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nineteen to twenty of the supplement one
to the report and recommendations of the

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advisory and finance committee missed

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a Saloon No I have voted of seven three
zero if I agree and finance committee

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recommends town meeting approve Article
thirty nine the majority of the committee

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felt the retail establishment should be
more accessible throughout town and felt

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comfortable with allowing them by right in
light industrial and highway commercial

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areas and by a special permit
process where residents may have

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a voice in general commercial to real
commercial in the airport district.

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Disapproval was contingent on Town
Councils review of the proposed by law in

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adoption of their recommendations the changes
were adopted without objection by the

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petitioner in

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a noted in supplement one the following
comments are equally apply to Articles

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thirty one and thirty two our committee
was quite aware that this is

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a unique moment in the legislative
history of our town this is

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a new and controversial industry passions
ran high on both sides of the issue the

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committee spent many hours listening to
speak is in deliberating on the matter

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summarizing this this debate is daunting
but I shall try the committee recognize

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the hard work and thoughtful process of
the planning board the committee also

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thought that Article thirty nine
had its flaws however there was

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a general sense that cutting in pasting
to create one article out of several was

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beyond the scope of our mandate and abilities
some thought that Article thirty one

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was too restrictive others that Article
thirty nine was too permissive most

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misgivings revolved around the locations
of these stores the debate was also

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constrained by the fact that it was not
about whether or not marijuana may be sold

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here but only about we're in under what
circumstances since the current zoning

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bylaws are silent as to the new industry
of legal retail marijuana sales the town

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could not prevent

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a store from opening anywhere retail stores
are allowed such stores were only be

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subject to state regulation clearly some
constraints are in order but determining

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the correct amount of regulation would
strain the wisdom of Solomon. In the end

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the committee chose

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a more liberal approach to the placement
of these stores and the more conservative

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approach to their number thank you thank
you very slur no on behalf of the advisory

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finance committee I have not mentioned
but on all these articles the board

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selectman are in support unless we have
another motion from the board you did see

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a package some draft motions to amend those
are not being offered for emotions at

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this time this is a
petition to article we have

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a petition presentation which is up to
fifteen minutes we welcome Stephen Stryker

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petitioner. Mr devours if you could

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clarify the position of the Board of
Selectmen just looking for your gavel but

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we we are not supporting this article just
referred to and I just want to make sure

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that was clear thank you OK Mr Dreier.

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At this time it's a majority
vote unless we have

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a motion to fix the method of voting by
Roll Call so proceed Mistry with your

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presentation or you would
tell me member I mean

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. We'll hold off on whether
or not you make yes

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you'll move to Roll Call thank you thank
you and at this time is there any debate

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on whether or not to have

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a roll call vote if not I will call for
the vote all those in favor say aye.

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Both say no the motion
carries this will be

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a roll call vote this destroyer Thank
you Mr Moderator Good afternoon

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Tommy members and thank you for the record
Steve Strider twenty five steeplechase

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Plymouth I have

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a disclosure I kind of like the way Mr
Whittington did it but I think given the

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circumstances I'll probably stick
with my straight disclosure. I have

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a financial interest in

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a medical marijuana treatment center in
another community and I think that I would

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certainly be interested to look
at the possibilities of operating

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a recreational facility
in Plymouth if it is

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a license would become available so
thank you and thank you for your time.

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So the goals of Article thirty nine. Does
need appropriate zoning distance so our

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current zoning byelaw was adopted in one
thousand nine hundred seventy two when

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amended several times over the years but
one of the guiding principles of our

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zoning still stands out and that is to
promote the most appropriate use of land

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throughout the town. A number to
increase tax revenue the law allows for

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three percent local option tax in the
three percent mitigation payment for five

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years average annual sales could exceed
five million dollars per store that would

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generate more than one point five million
dollars of revenue for the town Number

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three expand employment opportunities
like it or not marijuana is

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a growth industry
employment opportunities in

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a number of fields will
expand with it now.

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And safety in control is another issue
so would see the sale tracking testing

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government oversight and regulation consumers
will be able to purchase marijuana in

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a safe and controlled manner in the same
manner as alcohol so our current zoning by

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law allows for regulate certain activities
in the many zoning districts of the town

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Article thirty nine seeks to regulate
zoning the locations of marijuana stablish

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mints the five zoning districts where
marijuana stablish once would be allowed or

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light industrial arterial commercial highway
commercial the airport district and

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general commercial

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sorry fifty six years old
as my first Power Point so

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so our current zoning bylaws. The
so the permanent processes are

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so under Article thirty nine marijuana
stablish means in the light industrial

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highly commercial will be allowed by right
in the airport at cereal commercial and

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general commercial they would require
a special permit that process allows

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a special permit granting authority who
in this case would be the Zoning Board of

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Appeals to impose significant safeguards
conditions that could include provisions

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requiring that marijuana stablish mints
address safety noise nuisance and adverse

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effects on the on the area screening
of the site limitations of signage in

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advertising will also be regulated the
process also includes hearings that at

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several boards and committees This will
allow for any many opportunities for public

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involvement. According to

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a twenty six thousand Gallup poll thirteen
percent of Americans that's one in eight

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use marijuana daily and almost fifty percent
have used it in the past that is over

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one hundred sixty million people this is
why illicit sales black market sales of

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marijuana in the United States are estimated
to be at least fifty five billion

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dollars

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a year one point five billion dollars in
Massachusetts the way you change that the

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way you start to bring those dollars into
the legal regulated and taxed market is

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to shine

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a light on it not hide it by putting marijuana
retailers only in the light industrial

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zone you continue to perpetuate the stigma
of marijuana use and you marginalize the

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00:38:57,43 --> 00:38:58,70
people who choose to consume

440
00:38:58,71 --> 00:39:04,31
a product they may now legally purchase
when you hide it away you nor the will of

441
00:39:04,32 --> 00:39:09,20
the citizens who voted to legalize marijuana
intreated like alcohol it's time to

442
00:39:09,21 --> 00:39:14,63
change course it's time to take marijuana
out of the black market out of the hands

443
00:39:14,64 --> 00:39:19,76
of criminal drug dealers and out of the
hands of our kids by providing safe and

444
00:39:19,77 --> 00:39:25,78
convenient and controlled access to adults
in the same manner as alcohol as the law

445
00:39:25,79 --> 00:39:32,55
intended so if that's what you mean

446
00:39:34,40 --> 00:39:40,88
if this is what you imagine when you
think of marijuana or this or this

447
00:39:42,67 --> 00:39:49,31
if these are the people you see I ask
why not these people or these or him

448
00:39:50,05 --> 00:39:53,64
or your friends and your
neighbors so you have

449
00:39:53,65 --> 00:40:00,53
a choice today and I hope that you support
Article thirty one thank you. I'm sorry

450
00:40:00,78 --> 00:40:07,75
she had me you already know are our
Wow Ah I don't know how that happened

451
00:40:08,53 --> 00:40:15,52
ah I just said I did go home for
lunch because I thank you for the

452
00:40:15,53 --> 00:40:22,01
correction personally. I think it's called
the slip Mr Straw or. Me Thank you very

453
00:40:22,02 --> 00:40:27,02
much for the discussion.
Patricia McCarthy precinct five

454
00:40:29,33 --> 00:40:35,09
I know there's two separate articles but
I'd like to ask. Lee Hartmann if he could

455
00:40:35,73 --> 00:40:41,24
just give give us the basic differences
in the zoning between this and the other

456
00:40:41,25 --> 00:40:44,04
article that's come the
new objection will have

457
00:40:44,05 --> 00:40:49,64
a presentation from the or when he is
director of planning and development Welcome

458
00:40:49,96 --> 00:40:53,71
Mr Hartman thank you so
Article thirty one which is

459
00:40:53,72 --> 00:40:55,71
a town article really is recommending

460
00:40:55,72 --> 00:41:00,41
a cautious approach the state at this
point has not adopted any regulations we

461
00:41:00,42 --> 00:41:04,38
don't even know how the state is going to
issue the state permits that will then

462
00:41:04,39 --> 00:41:09,60
come down to the local level so at this
point we have medical marijuana facilities

463
00:41:09,61 --> 00:41:13,83
in our industrial park but
the town is recommending is

464
00:41:13,84 --> 00:41:19,27
a cautious approach until we know how this
rolls out at the State level of allowing

465
00:41:19,28 --> 00:41:23,78
this use in the light industrial district
where the medical marijuana is and the

466
00:41:23,79 --> 00:41:30,46
provision here would be to do it by
special permit the. The Article thirty

467
00:41:30,47 --> 00:41:34,79
one is presented by the town and again if
this article twenty thirty nine passes

468
00:41:34,80 --> 00:41:39,27
which is before you will be no motion
on thirty one It's thirty nine and as

469
00:41:39,28 --> 00:41:43,08
a failsafe we come back with thirty one
because without anything we have no

470
00:41:43,09 --> 00:41:47,76
regulations to govern this use in the town
but Article thirty one is supported by

471
00:41:47,77 --> 00:41:51,48
the planning board the board of selectmen
the public health director the police

472
00:41:51,49 --> 00:41:56,60
chief and myself so. You know there's
something that again we're recommending

473
00:41:56,64 --> 00:42:02,30
a cautious approach and as Mr stronger
pointed out the big difference here is in

474
00:42:02,31 --> 00:42:06,81
the petition Article four thirty one the
use is allowed in the light industrial

475
00:42:06,82 --> 00:42:11,23
district and the highway commercial district
by right by right means you don't need

476
00:42:11,24 --> 00:42:12,86
a special permit you simply get

477
00:42:12,87 --> 00:42:18,87
a building permit no negotiations review
of traffic the highway commercial zone is

478
00:42:18,88 --> 00:42:23,40
our home depot area and
the area around B.J.

479
00:42:23,41 --> 00:42:29,05
Is and the growth of the petitions article
also allows for the retailers by special

480
00:42:29,06 --> 00:42:33,79
permit in the airports own property of the
the more industrial type area you see by

481
00:42:33,80 --> 00:42:39,35
the our airport the general commercial
zone which is the bennies plows are. North

482
00:42:39,36 --> 00:42:44,73
Plymouth seat of Bill man and that and the
market basket was Plymouth area it also

483
00:42:44,74 --> 00:42:49,67
says by special permit in the arterial
commercial zone which is that area on salmon

484
00:42:49,68 --> 00:42:55,19
said street by Pilgrim Hill Road Road when
terrorists as well as stopping shopping

485
00:42:55,20 --> 00:42:59,88
shelves area so the big differences
as this just learned pointed out

486
00:42:59,93 --> 00:43:03,99
a little more liberal that allows it in
some areas some by right some by special

487
00:43:04,00 --> 00:43:06,36
permit but in more areas or

488
00:43:06,58 --> 00:43:10,67
a more cautious approach which is really
to focus it in the industrial parks until

489
00:43:10,68 --> 00:43:14,66
we at least see what the state regulations
look like always have the option of

490
00:43:14,67 --> 00:43:19,97
adding zones in the future if we want to
thank you Randall Corker Precinct seven

491
00:43:20,70 --> 00:43:27,64
we're debating Article thirty nine
of the warrant for the fall and you

492
00:43:27,65 --> 00:43:31,52
will tell meeting and this is coming to
you from Plymouth North High School.

493
00:43:33,08 --> 00:43:38,76
Randolph Parker on Article thirty
nine. Thank you Mr Moderator I have

494
00:43:38,77 --> 00:43:43,64
a preface and the question this article
started with language requiring

495
00:43:44,02 --> 00:43:49,83
a five hundred foot separation from
facilities to schools daycares

496
00:43:50,59 --> 00:43:56,73
playgrounds and places kids
gather tell the Council reviewed

497
00:43:57,78 --> 00:44:04,17
and suggested refinements to those
places listed in the petition

498
00:44:05,18 --> 00:44:11,73
the refinements identified
licensed day care centers places

499
00:44:11,74 --> 00:44:18,32
dedicated to use by children like service
programs youth sports facilities

500
00:44:18,69 --> 00:44:25,10
dance schools gymnastics schools
and so on it also clearly

501
00:44:25,11 --> 00:44:31,33
stated what was not included like
where kids gather in an unstructured

502
00:44:31,86 --> 00:44:37,80
environment or in their own homes.
Then town council submitted

503
00:44:37,81 --> 00:44:44,75
a revision their opinion by
striking everything but schools and

504
00:44:44,76 --> 00:44:51,27
license daycares I do prefer the
first revision I think others agree

505
00:44:52,22 --> 00:44:59,04
so the question is why the change by town
council in their opinion from the broad

506
00:44:59,18 --> 00:45:05,63
and specific limitations to protect
our kids Mr Parker We have

507
00:45:05,64 --> 00:45:11,11
a motion from the advisory and finance
committee I know we have petitioned article

508
00:45:11,51 --> 00:45:18,24
from Stephen stronger as far as your
question and Liston Council accused insert I

509
00:45:18,25 --> 00:45:23,38
don't think that's before us but Lauren
Goldberg Town Council thank you Mr

510
00:45:23,39 --> 00:45:30,38
Moderator Mr Moderator three.
To two the speaker essentially

511
00:45:30,39 --> 00:45:34,89
we have concerns about the broad nature
of the language the fact that it so vague

512
00:45:34,90 --> 00:45:41,16
and that it will likely lead to litigation.
Thank you and your good time Mr

513
00:45:41,17 --> 00:45:48,07
Moderator Thank you we're continuing
with the debate and speaking priority to

514
00:45:48,08 --> 00:45:54,23
tell media members Peter Neville. Thank you
Mr Motivator Peter Noble precinct ten.

515
00:45:56,05 --> 00:46:03,03
I guess I'm opposed to this I think that
the car maybe before the hawse and.

516
00:46:04,55 --> 00:46:08,83
I would like to think that. The regulations
we have in place regarding like

517
00:46:08,84 --> 00:46:15,73
a still is should be followed and.
I'm not always convinced that

518
00:46:15,77 --> 00:46:22,75
more laws more by laws. Help
and maybe we should see

519
00:46:22,76 --> 00:46:28,88
how the market goes here
and. Evidently I'm alone

520
00:46:29,81 --> 00:46:34,98
in the minority in thinking
that. Marijuana is

521
00:46:35,86 --> 00:46:42,70
a problem and we can't legislate
that away I think alcohol is

522
00:46:42,71 --> 00:46:48,94
a problem. And we can't legislate that
away so with all respect to the town

523
00:46:48,95 --> 00:46:55,44
employees and to the volunteers that have
created this by law I can support THANK

524
00:46:55,45 --> 00:47:01,68
YOU THANK YOU Hi there this
is Catherine Holmes I am the

525
00:47:02,19 --> 00:47:05,91
newly elected because I'm speaking at

526
00:47:06,18 --> 00:47:11,53
a town meeting I just want to thank you I
just wanted to share my thoughts on this

527
00:47:11,54 --> 00:47:16,40
and say that I will not be supporting it
and I have very valid reasons why I am

528
00:47:16,41 --> 00:47:21,24
a resident of Plymouth I've been here for
approximately ten years and I take in

529
00:47:21,25 --> 00:47:23,57
foster care children I take in

530
00:47:23,58 --> 00:47:27,41
a significant amount of children that
have been abused within the community and

531
00:47:27,45 --> 00:47:32,42
many of that is caused by the drug epidemic
that we have here in our area I'm not

532
00:47:32,43 --> 00:47:34,34
to say that marijuana is

533
00:47:35,23 --> 00:47:41,96
a problem where where it's causing these
destitute situations that I'm seeing every

534
00:47:41,97 --> 00:47:46,51
day but I will say that marijuana is in
the blood system of the babies that I'm

535
00:47:46,52 --> 00:47:49,12
taking care of and it's
certainly something that is

536
00:47:49,13 --> 00:47:51,58
a real issue I definitely
think that there is

537
00:47:51,59 --> 00:47:56,22
a need for medical marijuana and the
ability for people to get it but as

538
00:47:56,23 --> 00:47:56,86
a person and

539
00:47:56,87 --> 00:48:00,40
a mother who's trying to raise children
in this community I think it's really

540
00:48:00,41 --> 00:48:02,57
important that we maybe take

541
00:48:02,58 --> 00:48:09,28
a more. Cautious approach on where
we place these these facilities

542
00:48:09,62 --> 00:48:14,27
a lot of the people that I have experienced
that were mothers and fathers that are

543
00:48:14,28 --> 00:48:18,69
drug addicted now where their children are
being taken out of custody started with

544
00:48:18,70 --> 00:48:19,96
the marijuana use and it was

545
00:48:19,97 --> 00:48:24,65
a gateway drug for them is not to say that
that's the case for everything but it's

546
00:48:24,66 --> 00:48:26,03
certainly the case for

547
00:48:26,04 --> 00:48:31,45
a lot of people within our community I'm
asking you to vote no on thirty nine I

548
00:48:31,46 --> 00:48:35,05
think that the these elections approach
is more conservative and something we

549
00:48:35,06 --> 00:48:36,73
should consider Thank you that's

550
00:48:36,74 --> 00:48:43,33
a goal. Yes I'm asking for
clarification to you Mr Moderator

551
00:48:44,05 --> 00:48:49,58
can you describe what the process would
be for Mr Smith who comes under Article

552
00:48:49,59 --> 00:48:52,58
thirty one to the zoning board to ask for

553
00:48:52,59 --> 00:48:56,02
a special permit on new white
grounds will they give

554
00:48:56,03 --> 00:49:00,19
a special permit and what will that process
look like please Lee Hartman is the

555
00:49:00,20 --> 00:49:01,80
director of planning and development

556
00:49:02,19 --> 00:49:06,77
a ton of Plymouth Mr Hartman responding
thank you so this special permit process

557
00:49:06,98 --> 00:49:10,33
and I like to point out that just because
you don't like something doesn't mean the

558
00:49:10,34 --> 00:49:12,94
zoning board has the ability to say no so

559
00:49:12,95 --> 00:49:17,78
a special permit gives you the ability to
negotiate mitigation out and maybe it's

560
00:49:17,79 --> 00:49:22,36
things like I'm on to get off the top of
my head hours of operation screen lighting

561
00:49:22,37 --> 00:49:27,41
security and build those types of things
into a special permit you can deny

562
00:49:27,42 --> 00:49:30,31
a special permit if there are
certain impacts for example maybe

563
00:49:30,32 --> 00:49:35,94
a traffic issue but again it's not just
whether you like it or don't like the use

564
00:49:35,95 --> 00:49:36,27
when it's

565
00:49:36,28 --> 00:49:41,25
a special permit it's generally allowed you
can impose conditions and safeguards on

566
00:49:41,26 --> 00:49:45,21
that permit but is allowed use and
the only way you really get to deny

567
00:49:45,22 --> 00:49:48,23
a special permit is if there
is something and again

568
00:49:48,24 --> 00:49:52,68
a good example would be traffic concerns
that that would overburden some road or

569
00:49:52,69 --> 00:49:59,25
intersection here but actually
show. I actually shot at

570
00:49:59,26 --> 00:50:02,73
Precinct one I just want to make
it clear that I'm speaking as

571
00:50:02,74 --> 00:50:07,48
a private resident of employment and now
association with the advisory finance

572
00:50:07,49 --> 00:50:13,33
committee right now I'm just speaking on
behalf of myself I just want to encourage

573
00:50:13,34 --> 00:50:18,83
the meeting members to approve Article
thirty nine I think that allowing this

574
00:50:18,84 --> 00:50:22,95
industry implemented I think that we do
need to allow it to succeed in Plymouth and

575
00:50:22,96 --> 00:50:28,27
by burying it in the light industrial areas
I think is not allowing this industry

576
00:50:28,56 --> 00:50:35,39
its full potential to succeed so by
voting in opposition of this article I

577
00:50:35,40 --> 00:50:40,51
think that it is voting in opposition of
the entire industry because I think that

578
00:50:40,52 --> 00:50:44,52
if we're going to allow these industries
in Plymouth we need to allow them to

579
00:50:44,53 --> 00:50:50,71
succeed implemented as well as the fact
that it's been clear today that spending is

580
00:50:50,72 --> 00:50:54,94
not something that we like to do
implement and I think that allowing

581
00:50:54,95 --> 00:50:59,58
a revenue source in Plymouth that could
be so great for this town I think that

582
00:50:59,59 --> 00:51:01,47
shooting that down would be

583
00:51:01,48 --> 00:51:08,13
a mistake in our town so thank you. Preaching
fourteen debating Article thirty nine

584
00:51:09,14 --> 00:51:15,99
thank you. I'll be voting no
on Question thirty nine. Our

585
00:51:16,00 --> 00:51:22,18
caucus meeting for Precinct fourteen we
heard a pretty compelling argument from

586
00:51:22,22 --> 00:51:24,69
a license holder for a minute made

587
00:51:24,70 --> 00:51:29,09
a metaphysical medicinal marijuana
there already has a permit here in

588
00:51:29,59 --> 00:51:35,89
a minute and for that reason the four
thousand foot setback stipulation for Article

589
00:51:35,90 --> 00:51:41,52
thirty nine I feel is. Is too
stringent but I would certainly

590
00:51:42,50 --> 00:51:49,16
welcome some additional input from Mr
Trier on that specific stipulation.

591
00:51:50,91 --> 00:51:57,85
Thank you. Mistrust even stronger
responding to Christopher rule of raising

592
00:51:57,86 --> 00:52:04,67
fourteen yes thank you so on the
concern that the. Mr O'Reilly

593
00:52:04,68 --> 00:52:06,47
had regarding

594
00:52:06,48 --> 00:52:10,21
a four thousand foot separation was that
the original language did not allow for

595
00:52:10,22 --> 00:52:13,20
co-location of the soul
of the facilities meaning

596
00:52:13,21 --> 00:52:16,28
a recreational facility
couldn't open up in

597
00:52:16,29 --> 00:52:19,43
a medical facility that has
been addressed through

598
00:52:19,44 --> 00:52:25,49
a through an amendment that states in
the article NOW so he will they will be

599
00:52:25,50 --> 00:52:31,11
allowed to open it to co-locate if they can
get the permits from the town Thank you

600
00:52:31,70 --> 00:52:37,50
Linda Bruce thank you precinct five
Hello. I'm going to not be supporting.

601
00:52:38,61 --> 00:52:44,60
This article thirty nine. It's the greater
of two evils I think thirty one is the

602
00:52:44,61 --> 00:52:48,12
lesser of the two evils
I believe that we need

603
00:52:48,16 --> 00:52:54,70
a slow cautious approach to introducing
pot shops into Plymouth I was very

604
00:52:54,71 --> 00:53:00,51
disappointed that Massachusetts as a
whole voted for marijuana as a mom of

605
00:53:00,52 --> 00:53:06,96
a teenage son I find this very troubling I
also find it very troubling hasn't been

606
00:53:06,97 --> 00:53:10,44
brought up. That it's
five hundred feet from

607
00:53:10,45 --> 00:53:16,19
a school that is one tenth of one
mile from a school that you can have

608
00:53:16,37 --> 00:53:22,39
a pot shop. Another argument that I've heard
from moving forward with the pot shops

609
00:53:22,40 --> 00:53:27,69
I think they do need to be in isolated
areas not throughout the town do you know

610
00:53:27,70 --> 00:53:33,00
how many complaints the board of selectmen
get on the number of bars that there are

611
00:53:33,01 --> 00:53:38,43
in the downtown area so I think we just
need to move cautiously in like do we

612
00:53:38,44 --> 00:53:44,06
really want to pot shop on every corner
as well I don't understand why people are

613
00:53:44,36 --> 00:53:51,29
opposed to bars but seem to be OK
with the pot shops. The other. The

614
00:53:51,30 --> 00:53:56,47
other. Reason I think to is
is we hear a lot of it's

615
00:53:56,48 --> 00:53:59,49
a gateway drug it's know we talk

616
00:53:59,50 --> 00:54:04,61
a lot in Plymouth about the opiate epidemic
and how we're very concerned about it

617
00:54:04,82 --> 00:54:10,14
and whereas I do not believe every marijuana
user becomes an opiate user every

618
00:54:10,18 --> 00:54:16,20
opiate user start with marijuana and
that is that is from the C.D.C.

619
00:54:16,21 --> 00:54:22,75
Folks so. So yeah you know and yes

620
00:54:23,02 --> 00:54:29,86
start with alcohol how many alcohol
related deaths do we have in Plymouth I

621
00:54:29,87 --> 00:54:34,22
think if we go full bore and having
them everywhere it's going to be

622
00:54:34,23 --> 00:54:39,19
a bigger burden on our police department
there are no regulations in place and how

623
00:54:39,20 --> 00:54:39,90
to stop

624
00:54:39,91 --> 00:54:46,71
a person when they're high How high is too
high to be driving so I really do feel

625
00:54:46,72 --> 00:54:49,59
that between thirty nine and
thirty one we should take

626
00:54:49,85 --> 00:54:56,27
a very cautious limited approach let's see
how having potshots implement affects

627
00:54:56,28 --> 00:55:02,94
the fabric of our society are we going to
see increased use of marijuana among our

628
00:55:02,95 --> 00:55:09,63
students you know. They say that you
get any drug that you want in the

629
00:55:09,64 --> 00:55:12,69
schools implements Well let's just make it

630
00:55:12,70 --> 00:55:18,74
a whole lot easier for them by having pot
shops one tenth of one mile where they

631
00:55:18,75 --> 00:55:23,20
can easily get them so I'm hoping that
you'll vote no on thirty nine and vote for

632
00:55:23,21 --> 00:55:30,14
the lesser evil of thirty one. Peter
Gurley we're debating Article thirty nine

633
00:55:30,46 --> 00:55:35,52
speaking priority to how many members
first today I call myself Joseph curly my

634
00:55:35,53 --> 00:55:41,10
brother and over here is Peter curly sorry
it's OK just curly precinct fifteen.

635
00:55:42,28 --> 00:55:46,90
Question number four was passed
by the voters of Massachusetts by

636
00:55:46,91 --> 00:55:53,64
a percentage of fifty two to forty eight
well in the town of Plymouth which barely

637
00:55:53,65 --> 00:55:54,18
passed

638
00:55:54,19 --> 00:56:00,52
a town of Plymouth increasing fifteen the
residents of precinct fifteen overwhelmingly

639
00:56:00,52 --> 00:56:04,46
. Defeated it back in November by

640
00:56:04,47 --> 00:56:11,00
a vote of two thirds to one third. The
child of Plymouth how did voted by

641
00:56:11,01 --> 00:56:13,100
a few hundred more people would be in

642
00:56:14,01 --> 00:56:19,64
a position today of voting whether or not
to ban the sale of marijuana in the town

643
00:56:19,65 --> 00:56:21,76
of Plymouth we could do that in

644
00:56:21,77 --> 00:56:27,57
a future through referendum as did the town
of Milford who passed it just voted to

645
00:56:27,58 --> 00:56:31,99
undo it in the town of Milford we could
do that going forward the reason for me

646
00:56:32,00 --> 00:56:37,92
saying this is that I think if you are these
establishments we have the better off

647
00:56:37,93 --> 00:56:43,30
we will be and the more remote they are
the better off we will be we do not want

648
00:56:43,62 --> 00:56:48,71
children to be walking up and down the
streets seeing stablished ones that will be

649
00:56:48,72 --> 00:56:54,80
able to advertise similar to the liquor
stores come here and buy the marijuana yes

650
00:56:54,81 --> 00:56:59,36
it will be illegal but we do not want to
encourage it to the extent that we could

651
00:56:59,57 --> 00:57:06,23
place one retail store in Plymouth
in the same location as the medical

652
00:57:06,24 --> 00:57:08,20
marijuana facility which has

653
00:57:08,49 --> 00:57:13,31
a tremendous amount of security and safeguards
built into it then those who want to

654
00:57:13,32 --> 00:57:19,61
go there to purchase their retail marijuana
could do so safely and securely and it

655
00:57:19,62 --> 00:57:23,76
would minimize the actual number of sales
in the town of Clinton so I will be

656
00:57:23,77 --> 00:57:28,50
voting against Article thirty nine and I
will be reluctantly voting in favor of

657
00:57:28,51 --> 00:57:34,43
Article thirty one thank you we heard
followed by Jeffrey welcome to many members

658
00:57:34,64 --> 00:57:41,62
yes I went to high Precinct thirteen and
I am torn on Article thirty nine I do

659
00:57:41,66 --> 00:57:45,92
think that this industry is that
is coming and that it can be

660
00:57:45,93 --> 00:57:50,58
a benefit to the town of climate and while
I on that point feel that it would be

661
00:57:50,59 --> 00:57:55,55
useful to be distributed around town I'm
here mostly representing my area and my

662
00:57:55,56 --> 00:58:01,63
constituents I'm from West Point us and my
main point is that I really want to try

663
00:58:01,64 --> 00:58:06,59
to dispel this notion that nobody lives
around the industrial park that it's the

664
00:58:06,60 --> 00:58:11,37
most remote. Part of town and that doesn't
really matter what we put there so I

665
00:58:11,38 --> 00:58:18,03
don't like the as of right provision
in the light industrial park

666
00:58:18,27 --> 00:58:23,30
my house is about five hundred feet from
the dust park some of my constituents and

667
00:58:23,31 --> 00:58:28,27
my neighbors are one hundred feet from the
industrial park and I think that both

668
00:58:28,28 --> 00:58:32,38
West Point at the North Plymouth which
border that industrial park and West planets

669
00:58:32,39 --> 00:58:37,27
are amongst the densest
parts of Plymouth so I have

670
00:58:37,28 --> 00:58:41,65
a concern with this notion from the rest
of Plymouth that nobody lives around the

671
00:58:41,66 --> 00:58:43,79
industrial park and I think with the as

672
00:58:43,80 --> 00:58:47,39
a right provision we would
lose the ability to go in on

673
00:58:47,40 --> 00:58:51,97
a special permit to talk about traffic
concerns or mitigation or all the other

674
00:58:51,98 --> 00:58:55,45
things that Mr Hartman mentioned
would be available with

675
00:58:55,46 --> 00:59:00,01
a special permit So that's my concern
about Article thirty nine and that's my

676
00:59:00,02 --> 00:59:05,66
general concern that this notion that nobody
lives around the industrial parks and

677
00:59:05,67 --> 00:59:09,66
nobody cares there's many schools around
the industrial park their schools inside

678
00:59:09,67 --> 00:59:16,27
the industrial park so I just want to point
that out that we have more control with

679
00:59:16,28 --> 00:59:19,01
a special permit this will be

680
00:59:19,02 --> 00:59:23,99
a two thirds vote your privilege Please
forward that just allow presenting

681
00:59:24,00 --> 00:59:30,26
a love and it just two points I agree I'm
going to support the men and thirty nine

682
00:59:30,27 --> 00:59:34,54
and just as the what the woman said from
the advisory and finance committee you

683
00:59:34,55 --> 00:59:39,66
can't restrict the potential tax revenue
from this interest industry and then the

684
00:59:39,67 --> 00:59:43,66
other point you continue to hear you know
what what am I supposed to say to my

685
00:59:43,67 --> 00:59:47,14
children and we don't want to children
seeing this we're in the midst of an opiate

686
00:59:47,22 --> 00:59:52,15
opioid crisis that maybe if this catalyst
was there that to your child seeing this

687
00:59:52,16 --> 00:59:57,71
pot shop and to have that hard conversation
and instill your family values of you

688
00:59:57,72 --> 01:00:01,74
know maybe you know to stay away from these
drugs and and whatnot we would maybe

689
01:00:02,44 --> 01:00:08,29
less likely be in this crisis you know so
it's it would create conversations. With

690
01:00:08,30 --> 01:00:12,43
the children and I will be supporting
this thank you Donna Williams followed by

691
01:00:12,44 --> 01:00:18,50
Megan call ins Dempster were debating
Article thirty nine Mr Williams. I'm

692
01:00:18,51 --> 01:00:24,41
reluctant to support this but I think I am
in the one reason that I am going to and

693
01:00:24,42 --> 01:00:30,07
I haven't heard this argument yet is that
in the light industrial The volume of the

694
01:00:30,08 --> 01:00:35,07
buildings is much larger than in
some of the other areas and if

695
01:00:35,08 --> 01:00:40,91
a pot shot goes in to light industrial it's
probably going to be taking up valuable

696
01:00:40,92 --> 01:00:43,93
space that could get
more tax money by having

697
01:00:43,94 --> 01:00:50,77
a more intense use some
worried about the tax base in

698
01:00:50,84 --> 01:00:57,30
not using light industrial wisely
from what I understand from our

699
01:00:57,31 --> 01:01:03,49
caucus that there are only four of these
being proposed by either thirty nine or

700
01:01:03,53 --> 01:01:06,89
thirty one and I think
it would probably be

701
01:01:07,18 --> 01:01:12,73
a good thing to consider the intensity
of the use that these pot shops would

702
01:01:12,74 --> 01:01:17,39
provide in light industrial they would
not be as intense so I urge you to think

703
01:01:17,40 --> 01:01:22,73
about that you can call it Dempster
making calling some surveys.

704
01:01:24,64 --> 01:01:28,81
I think that when you start veering off
from the subject of whether or not

705
01:01:28,82 --> 01:01:35,37
legalities or access is the issue the real
conversation that we're having here is

706
01:01:35,38 --> 01:01:39,86
whether or not you want to capitalize on
the opportunity to take something that's

707
01:01:39,87 --> 01:01:44,95
already proven to be already been accepted
by the state voters as something that's

708
01:01:44,96 --> 01:01:47,82
going to be legalized whether or not you're
going to capitalize on the opportunity

709
01:01:47,83 --> 01:01:51,87
to get some revenue out of that
so as much as we want to spend

710
01:01:51,88 --> 01:01:56,17
a lot of time talking about the social and
personal issues I think that there is

711
01:01:56,18 --> 01:02:02,64
a lot of stigma around marijuana and
despite the fact that. I think most of my

712
01:02:02,65 --> 01:02:06,32
family is known as seafood I do
have a real job and I work as

713
01:02:06,33 --> 01:02:11,27
a forensic toxicology laboratory
specialist and what we do is we work with

714
01:02:11,28 --> 01:02:16,18
treatment addiction centers and pain
specialists in dealing with drug addiction and

715
01:02:16,54 --> 01:02:20,49
for people who are prescribed opioids being
able to work with them to ensure that

716
01:02:20,50 --> 01:02:25,28
they are taking their medications properly
you would be if you take the extra time

717
01:02:25,29 --> 01:02:25,75
to do

718
01:02:25,76 --> 01:02:29,50
a little bit of research you'd be surprised
to find out that actually marijuana is

719
01:02:29,51 --> 01:02:34,68
uses a very successful therapy
for opioid addiction and has

720
01:02:34,82 --> 01:02:39,52
a medicinal purpose in that regard so
limiting some of this access and trying to

721
01:02:40,09 --> 01:02:40,50
put more of

722
01:02:40,51 --> 01:02:45,93
a stigma on the socializing or the social
use of this drug versus some of the

723
01:02:45,94 --> 01:02:51,42
medicinal aspects and the fact that it is
shown that despite some comments that not

724
01:02:51,46 --> 01:02:57,79
all opioid Addicks smoke marijuana there
is some therapy behind smoking marijuana

725
01:02:57,85 --> 01:02:59,86
if you are an opioid addict but

726
01:02:59,87 --> 01:03:03,64
a majority of opioid out exactly became
addicted to prescription drugs that were

727
01:03:03,65 --> 01:03:07,14
prescribed by their doctor
more so than stepping into

728
01:03:07,15 --> 01:03:13,09
a pot shop and purchasing their drugs so
we take that kind of social aspect out of

729
01:03:13,10 --> 01:03:14,52
it we look at this is from a more of

730
01:03:14,53 --> 01:03:21,24
a business perspective I think it's
much easier to start broad and narrow

731
01:03:21,25 --> 01:03:26,36
down than it is to try and expand. When
she's got tight restrictions in my opinion

732
01:03:26,37 --> 01:03:32,01
I think being able to have. Access to
what you think might potentially be

733
01:03:32,02 --> 01:03:37,25
a good template and then if we find that
that's not the best template we can always

734
01:03:37,26 --> 01:03:40,08
make it tighter but doing
it in reverse tends to be

735
01:03:40,21 --> 01:03:46,21
a little bit more difficult joining him
and. So many members were debating Article

736
01:03:46,22 --> 01:03:49,55
thirty nine let's get him and John have

737
01:03:49,56 --> 01:03:54,78
a reason for I'm tearing this around
because I'm tired of seeing people's backs

738
01:03:54,79 --> 01:03:59,41
while it's talking to us and I've complained
about that in the past haven't been

739
01:03:59,42 --> 01:04:03,43
able to get anybody to do anything about
it these microphones used to be well back

740
01:04:03,53 --> 01:04:08,21
and that was why we had extra microphones
out so I hope people will use the central

741
01:04:08,22 --> 01:04:13,23
microphone more I just want to say two
things I actually think it's easier to start

742
01:04:13,27 --> 01:04:20,20
strict and relax at least that's
what works in my family and. I

743
01:04:20,21 --> 01:04:26,56
want to say I'm very ambivalent about
marijuana I think is it like any other mind

744
01:04:26,57 --> 01:04:31,34
altering substance it could be beneficial
could be helpful it can be very

745
01:04:31,35 --> 01:04:32,89
destructive I've worked

746
01:04:32,90 --> 01:04:39,73
a lot with kids who both use
and sold drugs if my child

747
01:04:39,83 --> 01:04:40,79
was going to get

748
01:04:40,80 --> 01:04:44,64
a hold of some marijuana and try and
I would prefer that they buy it from

749
01:04:44,65 --> 01:04:49,89
a licensed person who's product is tested
for purity than for somebody who was

750
01:04:49,90 --> 01:04:50,64
a salesman for

751
01:04:50,65 --> 01:04:58,80
a criminal enterprise.
Michael Landers. This

752
01:04:58,81 --> 01:05:04,27
moderator knew full well the question the
motion to close debate on Article thirty

753
01:05:04,28 --> 01:05:10,60
nine it is not debatable however anyone
who still key is to be heard can remain

754
01:05:10,61 --> 01:05:14,27
standing thank you at
this time I will take

755
01:05:14,28 --> 01:05:20,08
a voice vote on whether close debate
on Article thirty nine. This is

756
01:05:20,09 --> 01:05:26,80
a two thirds vote all those in favor
say aye. Both say no. The motion

757
01:05:26,81 --> 01:05:33,14
carries we have now closed debate we will
now go forward and vote on Article thirty

758
01:05:33,15 --> 01:05:34,38
nine it will be

759
01:05:34,39 --> 01:05:41,07
a roll call vote and it requires two thirds
in order to pass get ready with your

760
01:05:41,08 --> 01:05:45,86
clickers look for the light to go on we'll
be voting on board of water let's hold

761
01:05:45,87 --> 01:05:51,91
off on the voting what is the point of
order they are not been presented those

762
01:05:51,92 --> 01:05:57,01
motions to amend have not been offered you
were just voting on the main motion from

763
01:05:57,02 --> 01:06:02,76
the advisory and finance committee from Mr
Salerno any other questions if not we're

764
01:06:02,77 --> 01:06:07,98
going to go ahead and vote on the like
goes on and this is an Article thirty nine

765
01:06:07,99 --> 01:06:08,14
it's

766
01:06:08,15 --> 01:06:13,27
a two thirds vote thank you please vote you
have twenty seconds we have one hundred

767
01:06:13,28 --> 01:06:19,98
thirty five elected members were voting
on the petitioners Article thirty nine

768
01:06:19,99 --> 01:06:20,36
which is

769
01:06:20,37 --> 01:06:26,10
a vote from the advisory and finance
committee we are completing the vote here at

770
01:06:26,11 --> 01:06:31,07
Plymouth North High School on Saturday
October twenty first we've completed the

771
01:06:31,08 --> 01:06:37,91
vote we're now looking for the quantum
of vote as reported. Forty three in

772
01:06:37,92 --> 01:06:44,45
favor seventy seven in opposition one
abstention the motion does not carry

773
01:06:44,80 --> 01:06:50,92
we now move forward in our warrant to Article
thirty one Mr to bars moves the town

774
01:06:50,93 --> 01:06:53,96
vote to amend the zoning
by law by adopting

775
01:06:53,97 --> 01:06:59,74
a new bylaw intitled marijuana establishments
as provided on pages two twenty two

776
01:06:59,75 --> 01:07:04,99
to twenty three of the report and
recommendations of the advisory and finance

777
01:07:05,00 --> 01:07:07,92
committee this will be a
two thirds vote it will be

778
01:07:07,93 --> 01:07:14,31
a roll call vote does anyone care
to speak on behalf of the motion

779
01:07:15,12 --> 01:07:20,20
under Article thirty one Lee Hartmann
director playing in development just

780
01:07:20,21 --> 01:07:21,59
a clarification that if there's

781
01:07:21,60 --> 01:07:25,19
a no vote on this Article two that means
that they would be allowed anywhere where

782
01:07:25,20 --> 01:07:31,16
you can buy cigarettes or gummy bears. Our
recommendation is to have something on

783
01:07:31,17 --> 01:07:37,13
the books we would recommend that you use
what this article ERISA learn O.M.B.

784
01:07:37,14 --> 01:07:41,71
Have the advisory and finance
committee the finance committee in

785
01:07:41,72 --> 01:07:47,15
a vote of three seven zero recommended town
meeting not approve Article thirty one

786
01:07:48,07 --> 01:07:52,96
thirty one and thirty nine were competing
articles they were mutually exclusive.

787
01:07:54,14 --> 01:07:59,94
Since we voted to approve recommend approval
of thirty nine we voted not to approve

788
01:07:59,95 --> 01:08:06,67
thirty one and that is however our
recommendation remains. The committee recognizes

789
01:08:06,68 --> 01:08:07,22
that without

790
01:08:07,26 --> 01:08:12,21
a set of bylaws and zoning restrictions
marijuana stores may be placed anywhere

791
01:08:12,22 --> 01:08:17,44
retail is allowed without any unique
restrictions such to it would only be subject

792
01:08:17,53 --> 01:08:24,26
to state regulation McCarthy good to be
heard no Michael within ten or you could be

793
01:08:24,27 --> 01:08:30,99
heard. This is like to tell the
truth no you go first. Miss

794
01:08:31,00 --> 01:08:36,22
Michael with integrating five on Article
thirty one yes I am just on Article thirty

795
01:08:36,23 --> 01:08:40,62
one of them or act it says the separation
from schools is still five hundred feet

796
01:08:41,09 --> 01:08:47,82
and all recreational stablish ments it's
two thousand feet anyone there yet and is

797
01:08:47,83 --> 01:08:53,24
there reason for them and if it is can
we extend the two thousand feet you're

798
01:08:53,25 --> 01:08:53,66
looking at

799
01:08:53,67 --> 01:08:58,95
a table if yes now so the only thing in the
Article thirty one is the separation of

800
01:08:58,96 --> 01:09:04,96
five hundred feet the two thousand feet
is not in Article one I realize that but

801
01:09:04,97 --> 01:09:10,47
what I'm asking is it can you do it
all recreational establishment with

802
01:09:10,48 --> 01:09:14,86
a few thousand feet or so there's no right
the problem with it I don't know what

803
01:09:14,87 --> 01:09:21,02
a recreational facility is so on the fly
you just go just five hundred foot in

804
01:09:21,03 --> 01:09:26,97
school OK Can we extend that you can when
we talked about this through the planning

805
01:09:26,98 --> 01:09:31,07
board and with Town Council our concern is
that with focus of the light industrial

806
01:09:31,08 --> 01:09:34,16
district and once you start
making bigger said setbacks in

807
01:09:34,17 --> 01:09:37,51
a small area you start to
really start to maybe get to

808
01:09:37,52 --> 01:09:41,96
a level of on reasonable regulation so we
looked at that very issue and we decided

809
01:09:41,97 --> 01:09:45,68
to stay with five hundred because
the article does focus in

810
01:09:45,69 --> 01:09:50,04
a localized area which is like industrial
in Leave the reason why I'm asking is

811
01:09:50,05 --> 01:09:53,41
five hundred feet I think would be the
end of the building wouldn't it be five

812
01:09:53,42 --> 01:09:53,94
hundred feet is

813
01:09:53,95 --> 01:09:57,18
a regulation that's already in place for
medical marijuana too so that's where the

814
01:09:57,19 --> 01:10:00,75
five hundred comes from it's already
been there different thing in going to

815
01:10:00,76 --> 01:10:05,17
a doctor and going to. I
understand but since this is

816
01:10:05,49 --> 01:10:09,04
a fairly localized area we felt far more
comfortable with the five hundred foot to

817
01:10:09,05 --> 01:10:10,73
go greater might open up

818
01:10:10,74 --> 01:10:16,11
a different. I'm perfectly willing to
open up that can of worms if it if two

819
01:10:16,12 --> 01:10:21,28
thousand feet if fifteen hundred feet is
going to put recreational marijuana I

820
01:10:21,29 --> 01:10:25,43
don't know is neat two thousand feet may
end up with an absolute prohibition of the

821
01:10:25,44 --> 01:10:29,26
use anywhere in the town which would cause
another set of problems which again is

822
01:10:29,27 --> 01:10:34,13
why we recommended the five hundred I'm
perfectly willing to open up that can of

823
01:10:34,14 --> 01:10:39,36
worms Mr Whittington I understand
your comments I have no I do not have

824
01:10:39,37 --> 01:10:45,20
a motion from you nor will like SEPTA motion
unless it's in writing and having been

825
01:10:45,21 --> 01:10:50,15
reviewed by the director playing
development in town council but my general

826
01:10:50,16 --> 01:10:54,93
impression is we're not going to be drafting
legislation until meeting floor the

827
01:10:54,94 --> 01:10:59,25
opportunity to have done that would have
been prior to today's meeting because

828
01:10:59,26 --> 01:10:59,37
there are

829
01:10:59,38 --> 01:11:03,71
a lot of ramifications you can always
come back in the spring however if you do

830
01:11:03,72 --> 01:11:05,13
wish to draft

831
01:11:05,27 --> 01:11:10,79
a by law change please put it in writing
and submit it and we'll review it thank

832
01:11:10,80 --> 01:11:15,22
you back at the spring town meeting with
thank you odds are blooming Thank you

833
01:11:16,01 --> 01:11:21,62
that's the hall tell me to remember he
doesn't know much about marijuana the buds

834
01:11:21,63 --> 01:11:28,37
are blooming right now. I think I
think I wouldn't know it personally.

835
01:11:31,99 --> 01:11:37,84
Your time is ticking Yes My time is ticking
I would like to readdress what we hide

836
01:11:37,85 --> 01:11:42,71
said in we used to have it here that instill
here that down where I live you know

837
01:11:42,72 --> 01:11:47,27
the exit three below that that's the
hinterlands who cares what happens down there

838
01:11:47,28 --> 01:11:53,02
and I think we should take when dear
hards comments to heart I voted against

839
01:11:53,32 --> 01:12:00,09
Article thirty nine because of the
special permit and by right. Pieces I

840
01:12:00,10 --> 01:12:04,78
don't want this to be by right so I would
like to ask to my fellow town meeting

841
01:12:04,79 --> 01:12:10,86
members to reconsider Article thirty nine
I did vote in favor of it with all of it

842
01:12:11,59 --> 01:12:11,77
with

843
01:12:12,16 --> 01:12:18,02
a provision that the fees for five pop shops
can go into more than one place in town

844
01:12:18,03 --> 01:12:22,54
however they're all by special permit so
there would be an amendment to Article

845
01:12:22,55 --> 01:12:28,25
thirty nine I guess if we if I my fellow
tell me Tim is in agree to the agree to

846
01:12:28,26 --> 01:12:35,14
hear it I did Vilna prevailing
side as. Based on the idea that

847
01:12:35,35 --> 01:12:37,93
putting all of these in
one part of town does put

848
01:12:37,94 --> 01:12:41,34
a burden on one part of town
thank you thank you Richard.

849
01:12:45,71 --> 01:12:51,80
Concerned that we're going to leave the
building with out any regulations and it's

850
01:12:51,81 --> 01:12:58,33
our job we have to have these regulations
and I thank the town leaders for putting

851
01:12:58,34 --> 01:13:04,03
forth this article and I thank Steve for
putting together his article also but.

852
01:13:05,10 --> 01:13:11,98
We're kind of debating the morality
of that water and that's not

853
01:13:12,43 --> 01:13:16,47
what's in front of us
OK Pat Nixon declared

854
01:13:16,48 --> 01:13:23,31
a war on drugs we lost that war about
forty years ago. Now it's time to

855
01:13:23,32 --> 01:13:29,47
engage I have no interest in using
marijuana I don't might change children or

856
01:13:29,51 --> 01:13:36,47
grandchildren to do it but they have to
have that choice and I believe if they can

857
01:13:36,48 --> 01:13:37,05
do it in

858
01:13:37,06 --> 01:13:43,33
a controlled and professional environment
like we're talking about here it's going

859
01:13:43,34 --> 01:13:50,26
to be better than when they get
it now and don't get mad at me my

860
01:13:50,76 --> 01:13:52,88
place they get it now there's

861
01:13:52,89 --> 01:13:59,09
a parking lot right outside their school
that's where they get it OK So let's stop

862
01:13:59,10 --> 01:14:06,03
the madness and approve this article
Mr Linden's dear procedural

863
01:14:06,04 --> 01:14:09,80
motion I do I'd like to
move this question it's

864
01:14:09,81 --> 01:14:16,52
a motion to close debate will now have no
more debate will still wishes to be heard

865
01:14:16,53 --> 01:14:22,10
to stand and you'll see the people who are
still standing and at this time I will

866
01:14:22,11 --> 01:14:22,43
take

867
01:14:22,47 --> 01:14:28,75
a voice vote on whether to close debate on
Article thirty one all those in favor of

868
01:14:28,76 --> 01:14:35,37
closing debate say I I will say no
motion carries by more than two thirds

869
01:14:36,62 --> 01:14:41,11
will now move forward in Article thirty
one it is a two thirds vote it is

870
01:14:41,12 --> 01:14:47,93
a roll call vote and we will vote by Roll
Call tronic Lee When the light goes on

871
01:14:48,22 --> 01:14:55,01
you can begin to vote on Article
thirty one please begin voting

872
01:14:56,90 --> 01:14:59,43
you have fifteen seconds in which to vote

873
01:15:25,19 --> 01:15:32,06
one hundred six having voted in favor
sixteen in opposition zero abstentions the

874
01:15:32,07 --> 01:15:38,94
motion carries. We now move
to Article. Thirty two

875
01:15:39,58 --> 01:15:44,18
mins to slur no moves the vote to
amend the general bylaws by adopting

876
01:15:44,19 --> 01:15:50,64
a new by law as Chapter one fifteen marijuana
as provided on pages two twenty two

877
01:15:50,65 --> 01:15:55,01
twenty one of the report and recommendations
of the advisory and finance committee

878
01:15:55,05 --> 01:16:00,30
it is a majority vote in a roll call it
was not unanimous mistress' a learned in

879
01:16:00,31 --> 01:16:05,56
a vote of nine one zero your visor in
finance committee recommend town meeting

880
01:16:05,57 --> 01:16:10,91
approved Article thirty two proof of this
article will amend the general by laws

881
01:16:11,22 --> 01:16:15,60
relating to the retail sales of marijuana
the majority of the committee felt

882
01:16:15,61 --> 01:16:19,84
comfortable with the vetting process of the
planning board it seemed that limiting

883
01:16:19,85 --> 01:16:23,88
the number of retail Mera want to do is
to twenty percent of the number of liquor

884
01:16:23,89 --> 01:16:24,60
licenses was

885
01:16:24,61 --> 01:16:30,07
a reasonable or first step as the state
recommends the hours and separation

886
01:16:30,08 --> 01:16:35,09
requirement appears reasonable the
committee remind you that without

887
01:16:35,10 --> 01:16:39,70
a set of by laws and zoning restrictions
marijuana stores may be placed anywhere

888
01:16:39,71 --> 01:16:44,65
retail is allowed without any unique
restrictions such stores would only be subject

889
01:16:44,66 --> 01:16:51,56
to state regulation Christe of the.
Christer favor from the president my whole

890
01:16:51,57 --> 01:16:57,58
concern I have is the hours
of operation. You know

891
01:16:58,30 --> 01:17:04,59
Sunday ninety eight. I mean so you have

892
01:17:04,60 --> 01:17:09,99
a choice you can go to
church or get high. I mean

893
01:17:12,63 --> 01:17:16,73
I mean that that's really were coming
down to if you think about it and I think

894
01:17:16,74 --> 01:17:21,59
it's time to think about it laugh
all you want but I think there's

895
01:17:21,60 --> 01:17:24,76
a lot of people who think that some sort
of morality is missing and I think when

896
01:17:24,77 --> 01:17:29,23
you think about that we set certain
restrictions when it comes to alcohol we used

897
01:17:29,24 --> 01:17:32,85
to you know I don't I think having that
type of thing in the morning I think is

898
01:17:32,86 --> 01:17:33,09
just

899
01:17:33,10 --> 01:17:37,97
a little over the top to be honest with
you so just think about that I can't make

900
01:17:37,98 --> 01:17:42,91
a motion to amend but some could do
that thank you. James Williamson

901
01:17:46,29 --> 01:17:48,35
thanks folks I just want
to take a second to share

902
01:17:48,36 --> 01:17:54,39
a story with you. I work my name is Jim
Williams And by the way I work in part as

903
01:17:54,40 --> 01:17:58,30
a bouncer downtown at a bar
who has been downtown at

904
01:17:58,31 --> 01:18:03,62
a bar late night one o'clock in the morning
recently some of us what does that look

905
01:18:03,63 --> 01:18:04,78
like let me paint

906
01:18:04,79 --> 01:18:09,22
a picture for what it looks like for you
I got out of work the other day twelve

907
01:18:09,23 --> 01:18:12,83
forty five went to get my only drink
of the night at a friend of mine's bar

908
01:18:13,25 --> 01:18:20,09
a drunk patron. Knocked out act tooth
and busted my lips for no reason

909
01:18:20,15 --> 01:18:27,03
I got sucker punched what doesn't happen
at pot stores getting punched in the mouth

910
01:18:27,72 --> 01:18:30,79
that's how I want to share my story with
you guys I appreciate your time I consider

911
01:18:30,80 --> 01:18:33,71
that we think about again the morality
of it so I think there is what

912
01:18:33,75 --> 01:18:36,13
a couple dozen places

913
01:18:36,14 --> 01:18:41,97
a cell call downtown right near our schools
in the last thing I want to say to I

914
01:18:41,97 --> 01:18:48,68
have thirty five dead friends from the
opioid epidemic I'm thirty three years old I

915
01:18:48,69 --> 01:18:55,40
graduated I myself in two thousand and
two thirty five dead from none of them

916
01:18:56,11 --> 01:19:02,99
die from smoking weed. Thanks folks
for the discussion Article thirty two

917
01:19:03,94 --> 01:19:05,33
Paul Brennan is not

918
01:19:05,34 --> 01:19:10,49
a risen from the town of Plymouth lesser
objections from meeting Mr Brown and would

919
01:19:10,50 --> 01:19:11,20
like to addressed

920
01:19:11,21 --> 01:19:15,46
a meeting. Well I did I did grow up in
Plymouth I graduated from the South High

921
01:19:15,47 --> 01:19:17,84
School Class of two thousand and I am

922
01:19:17,88 --> 01:19:21,50
a small business owner and the landscaper
who does one hundred percent of my

923
01:19:21,51 --> 01:19:27,47
business here in town I only just recently
moved to Carver and I'm here at the

924
01:19:27,48 --> 01:19:34,03
request of dozens of my fellow Plymouth.
My friends from Plymouth and the reason

925
01:19:34,04 --> 01:19:37,22
is is because I have the courage
to stand up here in front of

926
01:19:37,23 --> 01:19:39,71
a lot of you and talk in addition to being

927
01:19:39,72 --> 01:19:43,81
a landscaper I also currently work
professionally in the cannabis industry I've

928
01:19:43,82 --> 01:19:48,01
been teaching at doing the grassroots
Institute in Quincy for the past three years

929
01:19:48,02 --> 01:19:52,30
advising people on home grow and how to
adjust their products safely I am on the

930
01:19:52,31 --> 01:19:56,54
board of advisers for the mass recreational
Consumer Council I have testified

931
01:19:56,55 --> 01:20:01,35
multiple times for the Massachusetts
recreational marijuana board as well as just

932
01:20:01,36 --> 01:20:06,56
last week to the cannabis Control Commission
so going forward with regulating this

933
01:20:06,57 --> 01:20:11,85
industry specifically zoning I was going
to highlight what I said to the cannabis

934
01:20:11,86 --> 01:20:15,63
Control Commission last week because I
think I need to remind everybody that the

935
01:20:15,64 --> 01:20:20,46
state hasn't even implemented these regulations
yet and we might be jumping the gun

936
01:20:20,59 --> 01:20:26,42
if we're looking to overregulate in zone
specific businesses out of the community

937
01:20:26,58 --> 01:20:31,87
before we even allowed to get going with
them so look my phone here this is what I

938
01:20:31,88 --> 01:20:36,08
just said to the cannabis Control Commission
at the state house last week my name

939
01:20:36,09 --> 01:20:38,46
is Paul Brennan am a resident
of the county where I own

940
01:20:38,47 --> 01:20:41,58
a home and property I am also a parent and

941
01:20:41,59 --> 01:20:45,63
a small business owner I'll settle concerns
about I recommend and recommendations

942
01:20:45,64 --> 01:20:50,36
for the regulation of this new legal industry
specifically regarding the right for

943
01:20:50,37 --> 01:20:52,72
adults to socially consume in

944
01:20:52,73 --> 01:20:58,47
a safe environment as well as. Regulations
that allow for the cultivate cultivation

945
01:20:58,48 --> 01:21:04,28
and distribution rights of small growers
and farmer cooperatives as well as other

946
01:21:04,57 --> 01:21:08,65
infuser is to create a
cottage industry I am

947
01:21:08,66 --> 01:21:15,19
a good person and I like wheat.
I use cannabis medically as

948
01:21:15,20 --> 01:21:19,15
a registered Massachusetts medical
marijuana patient but I also use cannabis

949
01:21:19,57 --> 01:21:20,51
recreationally as

950
01:21:20,52 --> 01:21:25,96
a safer and healthier alternative to
alcohol what good is all of this for

951
01:21:26,10 --> 01:21:30,98
legalization if we as responsible adults
still have to hide in the shadows of

952
01:21:30,99 --> 01:21:33,96
industrial zones to consume
shouldn't we be allowed

953
01:21:33,97 --> 01:21:38,43
a safe environment to socially engage in
responsible cannabis use just like those

954
01:21:38,44 --> 01:21:43,00
responsible we enjoy alcohol I don't think
I need to remind anyone based especially

955
01:21:43,01 --> 01:21:48,78
on what Jimbo just said that by all
measurable facts if you look at all data from

956
01:21:48,79 --> 01:21:54,46
across the country all of the science
supports overwhelmingly that cannabis is by

957
01:21:54,47 --> 01:21:56,30
far safer it was

958
01:21:56,31 --> 01:22:01,67
a less risk to public health and the safety
of our children than alcohol does all

959
01:22:01,68 --> 01:22:08,07
day so we continue to have to sit at the
bar and sip cup after cup of water or soda

960
01:22:08,15 --> 01:22:13,80
while skulking out to our back alleys
or even worse to our cars to sneak in

961
01:22:13,81 --> 01:22:18,22
a few illicit puffs we need protections
and safe spaces to take our cannabis use

962
01:22:18,23 --> 01:22:23,12
away from that which makes us seem still
like criminals it's now legal and it's

963
01:22:23,13 --> 01:22:23,81
time to allow for

964
01:22:23,82 --> 01:22:27,71
a certain degree of normalization by
allowing open cannabis users to remain an

965
01:22:27,75 --> 01:22:31,03
active part of our communities
and local economy I think what

966
01:22:31,04 --> 01:22:33,44
a lot of us are forgetting
is that this industry is

967
01:22:33,44 --> 01:22:37,93
a lot more than just pot shops there is
going to be cultivation centers there to be

968
01:22:37,94 --> 01:22:44,19
testing laboratories there were maybe
cannabis cafes that serve cannabis to patrons

969
01:22:44,54 --> 01:22:48,14
I think that it's important that here
in Massachusetts it's here in Plymouth

970
01:22:48,50 --> 01:22:54,56
nestled among the dozens of establishment
that line our historic downtown district

971
01:22:54,68 --> 01:23:01,64
and back again that serve. Alcohol to
residents and tourists the world over I think

972
01:23:01,65 --> 01:23:05,49
we need a setting just like that that
conserves cannabis infused products in

973
01:23:05,50 --> 01:23:11,23
a model just modeled after our service
safe regulations modeled after our liquor

974
01:23:11,24 --> 01:23:15,53
licensing regulations modeled after the
regulations that already regulate who could

975
01:23:15,54 --> 01:23:21,89
bars in cigar lounges across state these
these regulations would potentially

976
01:23:21,90 --> 01:23:26,17
include language restricting indoor used
only vaporization and infusions as amused

977
01:23:26,23 --> 01:23:30,96
means to promote harm reduction and responsible
use I can go on about several other

978
01:23:31,64 --> 01:23:36,54
businesses that I'd like to see catering.
You know social clubs like the Donald and

979
01:23:36,55 --> 01:23:39,71
sportsman exclude where the Garibaldi
were instead of alcohol we can consume

980
01:23:39,72 --> 01:23:44,12
cannabis. I don't want to see the
town miss out on all of the business

981
01:23:44,13 --> 01:23:47,97
opportunities and all of the tax revenue
that come from this well how much money we

982
01:23:47,98 --> 01:23:49,87
already seconds we have

983
01:23:49,88 --> 01:23:54,26
a potential to three percent tax revenue
on every single cannabis product sold in

984
01:23:54,27 --> 01:23:55,57
this town in Massachusetts and

985
01:23:55,58 --> 01:23:59,86
a ton of them with how much money we've
already raised with point seven five

986
01:23:59,87 --> 01:24:04,60
percent on food the three percent can go
on the really long way this is the fastest

987
01:24:04,61 --> 01:24:07,40
growing industry in the state in
the United States of America is

988
01:24:07,41 --> 01:24:10,56
a multi-billion dollar industry and I
don't want to see us all missed the boat

989
01:24:10,72 --> 01:24:16,68
based on others ideals of morality Thank
you Mr BRENNAN We're continuing to debate

990
01:24:16,72 --> 01:24:22,05
Article thirty two majority vote in the
roll call if this is not unanimous and for

991
01:24:22,06 --> 01:24:27,30
the discussion hearing none we will have
voting by electronic voting on the lake

992
01:24:27,31 --> 01:24:33,37
goes on you can vote on Article thirty
two this is a by launching. It requires

993
01:24:33,38 --> 01:24:37,69
a roll call and the like because on you
can begin to vote an Article thirty two

994
01:24:38,37 --> 01:24:42,94
this is on the warrant for the fall in you
will tell meeting and you can now vote

995
01:24:42,98 --> 01:24:47,05
how many members are voting they have
twenty seconds in which to vote their one

996
01:24:47,06 --> 01:24:52,75
hundred thirty five Tommy members we are
live on Saturday October twenty first at

997
01:24:52,76 --> 01:24:55,09
Plymouth North High School this requires

998
01:24:55,10 --> 01:24:59,39
a majority vote will be continuing in line
with the warrant upon the completion of

999
01:24:59,40 --> 01:25:04,93
this vote and Tommy members are now
concluding the vote and we will now have the

1000
01:25:04,94 --> 01:25:10,11
vote totals and you see them in front
of one eleven in favor eight in the

1001
01:25:10,12 --> 01:25:15,99
opposition's zero abstentions the motion
carries Article thirty three is withdrawn

1002
01:25:16,33 --> 01:25:22,57
Article thirty four is withdrawn Article
thirty five is withdrawn and we now move

1003
01:25:22,58 --> 01:25:27,07
to Article thirty six mistress learn to
move the town vote to amend the zoning by

1004
01:25:27,08 --> 01:25:31,64
law an official zoning map of the town
implement by changing the zoning designation

1005
01:25:32,00 --> 01:25:38,24
of land on minimum point road or Old Colony
drive road you have the text two thirds

1006
01:25:38,29 --> 01:25:41,77
rollcall and the Salerno in

1007
01:25:41,78 --> 01:25:47,32
a vote of six one zero with three recusals
the advisory and finance committee

1008
01:25:47,33 --> 01:25:53,02
recommends town meeting approve thirty six
approval of this out of the will result

1009
01:25:53,03 --> 01:25:58,22
in the Symes house property from small lot
residential to transitional commercial

1010
01:25:58,88 --> 01:26:03,70
the committee spent considerable time
listening to speak as both pro and con the

1011
01:26:03,71 --> 01:26:08,13
matter was debated quite thoroughly in the
majority felt this zoning change will

1012
01:26:08,14 --> 01:26:14,47
help the Symes House reach its full potential
the town using community preservation

1013
01:26:14,48 --> 01:26:19,78
fund recently invested some four million
dollars to renovate the property creating

1014
01:26:19,82 --> 01:26:24,63
two affordable housing units for offices
and for meeting rooms. The property will

1015
01:26:24,64 --> 01:26:25,08
be used as

1016
01:26:25,09 --> 01:26:29,91
a community center as well that town has
contract with management village common

1017
01:26:29,96 --> 01:26:34,95
Inc a five A one c three organization
to manage the property and D.C.I.

1018
01:26:34,96 --> 01:26:40,47
Is requesting this change in zoning to
clarify that office use is permitted by

1019
01:26:40,48 --> 01:26:46,49
right into broaden the scope of events
that can be hosted at the facility John

1020
01:26:46,50 --> 01:26:49,52
Moody is the petitioner he is speaking on

1021
01:26:49,53 --> 01:26:55,65
a presentation as president of the minimum
village comment Inc Donna curtain will

1022
01:26:55,66 --> 01:26:58,11
be joining him in the
presentation Welcome Mr Moody.

1023
01:27:03,19 --> 01:27:10,05
Used to moderator Good afternoon
town meeting members good news about

1024
01:27:10,06 --> 01:27:15,18
Article thirty six as. It signals
that we're almost done for the day

1025
01:27:16,83 --> 01:27:23,74
and it doesn't ask you to
appropriate any money in fact this

1026
01:27:23,75 --> 01:27:29,21
article is about positioning the signs
house for financial independence from the

1027
01:27:29,22 --> 01:27:34,49
town and success in delivering on the
promises for which you have already

1028
01:27:34,50 --> 01:27:39,77
graciously funded the resurrection and
repurpose ing of this is Stuart property

1029
01:27:40,91 --> 01:27:42,78
madam at Village common Inc is

1030
01:27:42,79 --> 01:27:48,87
a five A one c three organization formed
in august twenty six team with this

1031
01:27:48,88 --> 01:27:54,05
specific intent of pursuing the property
management agreement from the town of

1032
01:27:54,06 --> 01:27:56,07
Plymouth for the Symes house

1033
01:27:56,68 --> 01:28:01,69
a core team of men to Marion's work for
more than eighteen months exploring and

1034
01:28:01,70 --> 01:28:07,05
planning the use of the property how it
would benefit Plymouth and how to make the

1035
01:28:07,06 --> 01:28:07,40
house

1036
01:28:07,44 --> 01:28:14,18
a self sustaining facility we took cues
from the discussions here on Town Meeting

1037
01:28:14,19 --> 01:28:21,11
floor and what expectations you have for
the property in exchange for the funding

1038
01:28:21,12 --> 01:28:26,17
needed to breathe new life into this once
majestic home so that it could serve the

1039
01:28:26,18 --> 01:28:29,53
needs of the community
for many years to come.

1040
01:28:34,17 --> 01:28:39,24
Article thirty six proposes to rezone the
one acre parcel of the Symes house from

1041
01:28:39,25 --> 01:28:42,49
residential small lot to
transitional commercial

1042
01:28:42,96 --> 01:28:47,82
a very modest change in zoning that will
allow the business offices on the second

1043
01:28:47,83 --> 01:28:54,33
floor by right rather than as an exception
under those zoning by law and broaden

1044
01:28:54,34 --> 01:28:58,93
the scope of public use activities to
include events that are not community or

1045
01:28:58,94 --> 01:29:05,66
educational oriented such as baby showers
family gatherings birthdays and similar

1046
01:29:05,67 --> 01:29:11,59
activities as you know the signs House has
been renovated to include two affordable

1047
01:29:11,60 --> 01:29:16,89
housing units for business units and for
meeting and event rooms the affordable

1048
01:29:16,90 --> 01:29:22,28
units in business suites as proposed to
you at the outset of this project provide

1049
01:29:22,29 --> 01:29:27,57
the quarter revenue required to operate
and maintain the house with uses of the

1050
01:29:27,58 --> 01:29:32,11
first floor meeting rooms along with
fund raising activities filling the gap

1051
01:29:32,56 --> 01:29:39,50
between the expenses and revenue the
public use space of the first floor

1052
01:29:39,51 --> 01:29:44,63
will be managed village community center
hosting meetings of local government and

1053
01:29:44,64 --> 01:29:50,07
commit no local government boards in
committees at no cost other uses would pay

1054
01:29:50,08 --> 01:29:57,06
a fee that ranges from between forty and
sixty dollars depending on room size while

1055
01:29:57,07 --> 01:30:02,46
non-profits would pay approximately fifty
percent of the standard rate current

1056
01:30:02,47 --> 01:30:08,45
zoning allows use for the community and
educational purposes only which limits the

1057
01:30:08,46 --> 01:30:10,51
number of potential uses that would pay

1058
01:30:10,52 --> 01:30:17,42
a full fee in which in addition
we would much prefer to offer the

1059
01:30:17,43 --> 01:30:22,20
facility to non-profits at the same low
rate paid by government boards and

1060
01:30:22,21 --> 01:30:28,47
committees zero dollars. Transitional
commercial zoning would broaden the uses the

1061
01:30:28,48 --> 01:30:33,38
public space could be used for permitting
many med village common to rent the

1062
01:30:33,39 --> 01:30:39,43
facility for business meetings seminars
and personal events allowing such events

1063
01:30:39,47 --> 01:30:44,82
would increase opportunities for full fee
rental activity and quite probably an

1064
01:30:44,83 --> 01:30:49,96
able man amid village common to offer the
facility to nonprofits at no cost the

1065
01:30:49,97 --> 01:30:54,71
second reason for the zoning request is
that despite the determination by the town

1066
01:30:55,05 --> 01:30:57,67
that the business suites
are in allowed use

1067
01:31:01,65 --> 01:31:06,09
doubts raised by some members of the community
and by some potential business late

1068
01:31:06,16 --> 01:31:11,17
received about the appropriateness of the
business units in the residential zone

1069
01:31:11,44 --> 01:31:17,52
appears to be limiting our ability to
lease those offices while we have parties

1070
01:31:17,53 --> 01:31:21,91
interested in the business units some do
have reservations about entering into

1071
01:31:21,92 --> 01:31:25,42
a long term lease at the
facility because it is in

1072
01:31:25,43 --> 01:31:31,11
a residential zone the change to transitional
commercial zoning would allow the

1073
01:31:31,12 --> 01:31:36,61
business week by right removing the concerns
of potential tenants about the office

1074
01:31:36,62 --> 01:31:41,88
use we are seeking to change to create
an environment in which Manama village

1075
01:31:41,89 --> 01:31:45,68
common can be successful
in making the Symes house

1076
01:31:45,72 --> 01:31:50,75
a self-sustaining facility which we
believe is the principal objective.

1077
01:31:52,33 --> 01:31:57,75
Objective here and has has been since the
town meeting first approved funding for

1078
01:31:57,76 --> 01:32:04,75
the project we realized there is zero
appetite for an ongoing subsidy to operate

1079
01:32:04,76 --> 01:32:09,89
the facility in fact our property management
agreement with the town relieves the

1080
01:32:09,90 --> 01:32:16,26
town of any financial agreement with any
financial responsibility for operations

1081
01:32:16,31 --> 01:32:21,46
and maintenance of the building placing
management village common one hundred

1082
01:32:21,47 --> 01:32:25,71
percent on the hook for those
costs we firmly believe

1083
01:32:25,72 --> 01:32:30,12
a self-sustaining operation is possible
and that Plymouth and its residents

1084
01:32:32,74 --> 01:32:39,70
that Plymouth and its residents sorry. I

1085
01:32:39,71 --> 01:32:44,78
should have put them on to
begin with we firmly believe

1086
01:32:44,79 --> 01:32:48,71
a self-sustaining operation is possible and
that Plymouth and its residents derive

1087
01:32:48,72 --> 01:32:54,31
substantial value from the community center
operation this article requests your

1088
01:32:54,32 --> 01:32:59,21
approval of Article thirty six to support
our efforts toward self sustainability

1089
01:33:00,30 --> 01:33:03,38
our estimate and I've lost track
of where my presentation is.

1090
01:33:07,100 --> 01:33:12,21
Our estimate of N you'll operating
expenses is eighty thousand dollars with

1091
01:33:12,22 --> 01:33:15,86
utilities maintenance and insurance being
the principle large cost categories in

1092
01:33:15,87 --> 01:33:20,82
that estimate the affordable and business
units provide the lion's share of revenue

1093
01:33:21,10 --> 01:33:25,74
approximately sixty two thousand dollars
to meet those expenses leaving fifteen to

1094
01:33:25,75 --> 01:33:29,75
eighteen thousand dollars to be raised
through community center operations and

1095
01:33:29,76 --> 01:33:34,14
ongoing fundraising activities.
We have initiated the creation of

1096
01:33:34,15 --> 01:33:38,83
a network of local residents to provide
ongoing programming for the community

1097
01:33:38,84 --> 01:33:44,25
center focused on small classes and events
the community programmers through an

1098
01:33:44,26 --> 01:33:46,11
associate membership would receive

1099
01:33:46,12 --> 01:33:49,72
a discounted room rate based
on ball human views making

1100
01:33:49,73 --> 01:33:54,58
a variety of educational and personal
development classes workshops and services

1101
01:33:54,98 --> 01:33:59,94
traditionally found at community centers
across America available at the Plymouth

1102
01:34:00,02 --> 01:34:01,90
it within the committee Plymouth community

1103
01:34:08,40 --> 01:34:14,13
our financial model for Community Center
utilization indicates that at twenty five

1104
01:34:14,14 --> 01:34:20,03
percent utilization which amounts to
roughly two events or classes per day

1105
01:34:20,51 --> 01:34:25,55
approximately twenty three thousand dollars
would be generated annually closing the

1106
01:34:25,56 --> 01:34:29,54
gap in paying the operation and
maintenance expenses for the building

1107
01:34:33,31 --> 01:34:37,92
a snapshot view of allowed uses in the R
twenty S L and transitional commercial

1108
01:34:37,93 --> 01:34:42,70
zones highlights the very limited nature
of this is owning change the additional

1109
01:34:42,71 --> 01:34:49,01
use of the interest of interest here is the
last one on the transitional commercial

1110
01:34:49,11 --> 01:34:55,88
list which is our focus
for prospect of tenants

1111
01:34:56,13 --> 01:34:56,49
although

1112
01:34:56,49 --> 01:35:01,56
a small antique or gift shop or art gallery
or studio are not beyond the realm of

1113
01:35:01,58 --> 01:35:02,48
possibility

1114
01:35:08,90 --> 01:35:13,76
the parcel map before you reflects the Symes
house parcels design in particular the

1115
01:35:13,77 --> 01:35:20,50
two parking areas at the rear on the right
hand side and end at the front on the

1116
01:35:20,51 --> 01:35:26,25
left hand side of the lot of the property
lot and the entry and exit drives to the

1117
01:35:26,26 --> 01:35:33,15
front lot you can see them coming in
from all colony. And sitting out on the

1118
01:35:33,16 --> 01:35:37,69
man at Point Road this map is germane to
the concerns that have been raised about

1119
01:35:37,70 --> 01:35:42,93
traffic and parking we believe the onsite
parking for thirty vehicles is consistent

1120
01:35:42,94 --> 01:35:46,93
with the requirements of the zoning by law
for the type of facility in operations

1121
01:35:46,94 --> 01:35:53,91
planned. Some neighbors. Loud twenty five

1122
01:35:53,92 --> 01:35:58,11
percent of the neighbors have registered
some complaint complaints about traffic

1123
01:35:58,12 --> 01:36:05,04
and parking. We have. Taken steps
to address the traffic issue

1124
01:36:05,05 --> 01:36:11,21
we've issued some some temporary signage
or or put up some temporary signage that

1125
01:36:11,22 --> 01:36:17,87
drives the traffic into the parking lot at
the front of the property and that seems

1126
01:36:17,88 --> 01:36:23,01
to address have addressed the traffic
issue with the neighbors the parking we

1127
01:36:23,02 --> 01:36:27,42
believe the parking in the area is adequate
for the plan that I just discussed with

1128
01:36:27,43 --> 01:36:32,55
you about having small classes any events
we believe the nine hundred spaces at the

1129
01:36:32,56 --> 01:36:36,67
front of the property are more than adequate
to accommodate that kind of business

1130
01:36:37,34 --> 01:36:43,53
the last issue that's been raised is really
about spot zoning. This was originally

1131
01:36:43,54 --> 01:36:50,01
raised but we haven't heard much about
it recently spied zoning is not an issue

1132
01:36:50,18 --> 01:36:52,10
here because of

1133
01:36:52,30 --> 01:36:59,11
a substantial body of evidence. Provided
by both the Plymouth and management

1134
01:36:59,12 --> 01:37:03,57
Bill idjit master plan as well as the
general commercial zone right across the

1135
01:37:03,58 --> 01:37:08,14
street from the science House and the
size of the parcel in comparison to other

1136
01:37:08,15 --> 01:37:12,34
parcels. We don't believe that
a court would find this to be

1137
01:37:12,35 --> 01:37:18,67
a case of spots in closing. Many bad
milage common to believe the proposed

1138
01:37:18,68 --> 01:37:20,24
community center fills

1139
01:37:20,25 --> 01:37:24,23
a need in the man I'm at Village and greater
Plymouth area for meeting and commute

1140
01:37:24,27 --> 01:37:30,95
community use base the benefits the public
through through that use and act as

1141
01:37:30,96 --> 01:37:36,02
a center for personal development of
residence. It fills the revenue gap making the

1142
01:37:36,03 --> 01:37:39,72
facilities self-sustaining and
for the lies of the open space

1143
01:37:39,73 --> 01:37:44,56
a village green in the heart of management
we respectfully request your approval of

1144
01:37:44,57 --> 01:37:49,10
Article thirty six to complete the vision
Ridgeley brought before you in two

1145
01:37:49,11 --> 01:37:55,51
thousand and twelve with that I'm going
to ask Ms Donna curtain to please come to

1146
01:37:55,52 --> 01:37:57,80
the podium and issue

1147
01:37:57,81 --> 01:38:04,11
a few comments regarding the. John

1148
01:38:04,12 --> 01:38:10,98
a curtain Precinct three
the signs House Project

1149
01:38:11,09 --> 01:38:11,34
was

1150
01:38:11,35 --> 01:38:16,49
a trailblazing endeavor for the town of
Plymouth The concept was to bring all of the

1151
01:38:16,50 --> 01:38:21,13
components of the Community Preservation
Act together affordable housing Historic

1152
01:38:21,14 --> 01:38:25,29
Preservation to a lesser extent a
little bit of open space to create

1153
01:38:25,30 --> 01:38:28,58
a historic an active center of
community for the village of man

1154
01:38:28,59 --> 01:38:35,54
a man well we've learned trail blazing
is difficult work. It's never

1155
01:38:35,58 --> 01:38:40,08
easy to do something that hasn't really
been done before and historic preservation

1156
01:38:40,09 --> 01:38:46,07
projects are especially challenging but if
you've seen the restored property and I

1157
01:38:46,08 --> 01:38:51,50
hope every town meeting member has taken
the opportunity to do so you'll see the

1158
01:38:51,51 --> 01:38:52,96
impressive results of

1159
01:38:52,97 --> 01:38:59,41
a very considerable effort by the town
and by many local volunteers I'd like to

1160
01:38:59,42 --> 01:39:00,41
bring us back for just

1161
01:39:00,42 --> 01:39:06,00
a moment to the beginning of this process
this now elegant historic building was

1162
01:39:06,13 --> 01:39:08,04
a blight on man I'm at

1163
01:39:08,40 --> 01:39:14,40
a Creepshow of dereliction and neglect
thanks to the concerns of local residents

1164
01:39:14,41 --> 01:39:18,91
and the actions of this town meeting what
was once an abandoned eyesore is now

1165
01:39:18,96 --> 01:39:25,05
a beautiful historic emblem for the village
of Manama and I defy anyone to say this

1166
01:39:25,09 --> 01:39:27,25
isn't an improvement and

1167
01:39:27,26 --> 01:39:31,79
a betterment for all of the properties
commercial and residential in the science

1168
01:39:31,80 --> 01:39:36,31
house neighborhood. A new group has now
undertaken the management of the signs

1169
01:39:36,32 --> 01:39:37,66
house they've developed

1170
01:39:37,67 --> 01:39:42,51
a sensible and pragmatic business plan
that's appropriate to the scale and the

1171
01:39:42,52 --> 01:39:47,52
limitations of the historic building and
is sensitive to the concerns of its

1172
01:39:47,53 --> 01:39:53,26
neighbors they're asking for one bump up
in the zoning shame from residential to

1173
01:39:53,27 --> 01:39:55,24
transitional commercial for

1174
01:39:55,25 --> 01:40:01,18
a property that has been used historically
and indeed for most of its life span for

1175
01:40:01,22 --> 01:40:05,25
other than residential purposes it's
been a long time since this was

1176
01:40:05,26 --> 01:40:11,78
a home this is a crop I request we
should say yes to we've invested

1177
01:40:11,79 --> 01:40:18,32
a great deal in bringing the Symes house
back to life and it makes no sense not to

1178
01:40:18,33 --> 01:40:24,61
provide the key tool needed to keep it that
way I hope you'll give your support to

1179
01:40:24,62 --> 01:40:29,79
this article thank you Thomas Kelly
precinct six welcomes to Kelly

1180
01:40:32,76 --> 01:40:37,73
we're debating Article thirty six I'm
Kelly for Tom Kelly precinct six I'll be

1181
01:40:37,74 --> 01:40:41,88
brief but I really can't be brief and I'll
try to watch the time because I've been

1182
01:40:41,89 --> 01:40:42,22
here for

1183
01:40:42,23 --> 01:40:47,46
a while does my twenty fifth year in any
debate like this we look at we really have

1184
01:40:47,47 --> 01:40:50,76
to drill into the facts and
not the emotion I know that

1185
01:40:50,94 --> 01:40:56,41
a lot of people that from many years
of work into this OK I understand it I

1186
01:40:56,42 --> 01:40:59,36
supported it the first time
around because I said this C.P.C.

1187
01:40:59,37 --> 01:41:00,58
Money was coming we should get

1188
01:41:00,59 --> 01:41:05,52
a piece of the I support it the second
time after the civil law that went on down

1189
01:41:05,53 --> 01:41:08,20
there and we now have a
building done versus having

1190
01:41:08,21 --> 01:41:11,71
a half built I can't
support dish and there's

1191
01:41:11,72 --> 01:41:16,70
a number of reasons for us this the road
he was required to come back with the

1192
01:41:16,71 --> 01:41:19,56
planning from the midst of survivors
for the Board of Selectmen to take

1193
01:41:19,57 --> 01:41:26,13
a position they never did because
they don't have one OK on top of the

1194
01:41:26,14 --> 01:41:31,08
concerns that the neighbors will bring
up I'm still Sandy still here there's

1195
01:41:31,09 --> 01:41:35,78
a number and I was contacted months ago and
I couldn't believe that we couldn't do

1196
01:41:35,79 --> 01:41:40,40
what we were told to over the years.
Without his knowing change no one ever

1197
01:41:40,41 --> 01:41:44,70
mentioned that to anybody here in the
can look to check the records I follow

1198
01:41:44,71 --> 01:41:49,81
government all the time it was never told
to wash at town meeting when we approved

1199
01:41:49,82 --> 01:41:52,03
this money that we would have to have

1200
01:41:52,04 --> 01:41:57,00
a zoning change in the future we
made an error you can call it

1201
01:41:57,01 --> 01:42:00,78
a mistake I'm some people look at me and
say You call that a mistake it is it was

1202
01:42:00,79 --> 01:42:05,96
a mistake the due diligence wasn't done I'm
not pointing fingers at anybody what I

1203
01:42:05,97 --> 01:42:12,82
am saying is that you compound what we did
I support the president use the name you

1204
01:42:12,83 --> 01:42:19,42
support the president you the road back is
fifteen feet wide I measured it although

1205
01:42:19,60 --> 01:42:24,04
the owners of properties around there will
not let you have any pocking in there

1206
01:42:24,38 --> 01:42:25,11
because they have

1207
01:42:25,12 --> 01:42:29,26
a sign up the biggest place the plaza
spoke to Mr Petrel which is I have

1208
01:42:29,27 --> 01:42:33,02
a sign of it because I'm going to talk
people's cars out of my life because the

1209
01:42:33,03 --> 01:42:39,06
liability purposes and for his own
zoning law he needs space is for his own

1210
01:42:39,07 --> 01:42:45,100
commercial space so none of those businesses
can give us space now when we look at

1211
01:42:46,01 --> 01:42:50,80
it I don't have the liberty of doing that
with the plan there but you see Mr Moti

1212
01:42:50,81 --> 01:42:51,13
put up

1213
01:42:51,14 --> 01:42:57,24
a about the packing in the in the in the
front he says nineteen spaces you heard

1214
01:42:57,25 --> 01:43:04,06
him just say that come in from all on the
avenue and go out on Point Road Well if

1215
01:43:04,07 --> 01:43:07,35
you feel you can discuss it with you he
can verify everything I'm going to say I

1216
01:43:07,36 --> 01:43:07,53
had

1217
01:43:07,54 --> 01:43:14,78
a e-mail back and forth when the first group
put in the sprinkler system there they

1218
01:43:14,79 --> 01:43:21,09
had to put in what they call the file
word for a post indicating that it's

1219
01:43:21,10 --> 01:43:22,38
a six inch valve

1220
01:43:22,42 --> 01:43:27,09
a six inch pipe coming in for the sprinkler
to the building they wanted that the

1221
01:43:27,10 --> 01:43:32,23
fire department wanted it in the back
science group the time didn't want to know

1222
01:43:32,24 --> 01:43:37,86
about they said we'll put it in the front
but at the same time they agreed that

1223
01:43:37,87 --> 01:43:41,92
that front area which was the
original driveway will never be

1224
01:43:41,93 --> 01:43:47,87
a driveway. Mr Bradley she can confirm my
e-mail discussions so I don't know how

1225
01:43:47,88 --> 01:43:51,63
you're going to have caused come
in a fifteen wide road through

1226
01:43:51,69 --> 01:43:58,56
a set of Bush's foot nineteen we are in
the rear end and get out of there because

1227
01:43:58,57 --> 01:44:04,47
you can't use that entrance in the front
unless we pay to move the six inch water

1228
01:44:04,48 --> 01:44:10,61
line and then protect that valve that was
never the intent of what you just saw

1229
01:44:11,09 --> 01:44:16,63
from the original numbers so I go back to
the point is the Board of Selectmen have

1230
01:44:16,64 --> 01:44:17,06
not made

1231
01:44:17,07 --> 01:44:22,23
a decision on this because Mr twelve hours
was requirement was to come back with

1232
01:44:22,24 --> 01:44:28,18
a written document saying we can POC so
many spaces by our own kind of by law

1233
01:44:29,23 --> 01:44:36,17
in so many areas that's number one
two is the parking the zoning by

1234
01:44:36,18 --> 01:44:40,64
law they can have as many aventures
they want the out of F.P.

1235
01:44:40,68 --> 01:44:46,41
They can have as many events as they want
and I'll just leave you with this we are

1236
01:44:46,42 --> 01:44:51,05
using the heavy hand of government to
squash people that I've spoke to that are

1237
01:44:51,06 --> 01:44:57,06
against this let's say I can't afford to
hire zoning attorneys to fight this for

1238
01:44:57,07 --> 01:45:02,64
their protections they're depending on
ASH to do what's right and protect them

1239
01:45:03,68 --> 01:45:08,96
OK And when I look at it you say limit we
created the problem ladies and gentlemen

1240
01:45:09,42 --> 01:45:12,99
we did now some people might take offense
to that because they didn't vote for it

1241
01:45:13,39 --> 01:45:17,88
but we didn't need to selectively Tom
government made the mistake we didn't do with

1242
01:45:17,89 --> 01:45:22,49
due diligence now we're coming back and
trying to balance our mistake on the backs

1243
01:45:22,88 --> 01:45:28,14
of these neighbors as owning lies
we do here all the time we just did

1244
01:45:28,15 --> 01:45:34,41
a bunch of them is to protect our
investments and our homes our business I'll

1245
01:45:34,42 --> 01:45:35,33
finish with this

1246
01:45:35,34 --> 01:45:38,87
a number of years ago Barry Wood was up
in Philly how much longer do you have.

1247
01:45:40,18 --> 01:45:45,27
Thirty seconds to hang motion to extend.
So moved everything would ask me for the

1248
01:45:45,28 --> 01:45:47,39
discussion none call for

1249
01:45:47,40 --> 01:45:52,94
a vote alls in favor to extend thirty
second pose everybody having the same thing

1250
01:45:52,98 --> 01:45:54,92
he lives right next to she at C.V.S.

1251
01:45:55,39 --> 01:45:55,76
He has

1252
01:45:55,77 --> 01:46:00,29
a business there right now he came in and
everybody and all the from the top of the

1253
01:46:00,30 --> 01:46:06,26
bottom said zoning extension we don't
want you to do that there's no pocking in

1254
01:46:06,27 --> 01:46:13,11
traffic so he doesn't get it
but we get it or we try to

1255
01:46:13,12 --> 01:46:18,87
get it because we're the tile and we have
the heavy hand of government it's wrong

1256
01:46:18,91 --> 01:46:24,26
it's morally wrong ladies and gentlemen we
are in attacking our own we're the guys

1257
01:46:24,27 --> 01:46:27,65
that are supposed to be setting the worlds
and we have been doing it will kill you

1258
01:46:27,89 --> 01:46:34,77
because of what we did Thank you Virginia
Johnson told by Michael O'Hanlon welcome

1259
01:46:34,78 --> 01:46:41,61
to Johnson. Jr Johnson I'm from
Precinct seven and I live right

1260
01:46:41,62 --> 01:46:46,31
down the street from the sign South and
I've lived there for years and years and

1261
01:46:46,32 --> 01:46:52,69
years back when the signs house was just
a rock so I'm generally pleased just as

1262
01:46:52,70 --> 01:46:54,63
a citizen to see such

1263
01:46:54,64 --> 01:46:59,90
a beautiful facility I would like to
everybody to vote on this owning change

1264
01:47:00,22 --> 01:47:05,78
because I have been going to the meetings.
A village common that is going to be

1265
01:47:05,79 --> 01:47:11,98
running this facility and I can attest
to how thorough and how careful and how

1266
01:47:11,99 --> 01:47:18,62
creative they have been and probably Problem
Solving the science house no amount of

1267
01:47:19,23 --> 01:47:24,82
of that size is without problems and the
problems that I've been hearing about

1268
01:47:25,38 --> 01:47:31,52
things that I saw. Can Be saw and
saw with someone had work and

1269
01:47:32,11 --> 01:47:38,73
create that this house is not only quite
beautiful inside but it's historically

1270
01:47:38,74 --> 01:47:44,38
accurate and one of the things I always
liked about Plymouth was how beautifully

1271
01:47:44,39 --> 01:47:50,93
they keep their historic I've facts
without destroying them or making them

1272
01:47:50,94 --> 01:47:54,72
tacky and the Symes house
is a very good example of

1273
01:47:54,73 --> 01:48:01,72
a very good restoration and. So I would
just like everybody to remember that we

1274
01:48:01,73 --> 01:48:07,67
spent a lot of money on this that
it's a the village Commons promises

1275
01:48:07,67 --> 01:48:13,73
a self-sustaining building and I believe
the village Commons people really know

1276
01:48:13,74 --> 01:48:18,81
what they're talking about because of
Ahmed he saw a whole lot of problems and

1277
01:48:18,83 --> 01:48:23,97
a lot of the problems financial So please
vote for the zoning change make it

1278
01:48:23,98 --> 01:48:28,77
a little bit easier Father them to
continue their work and to have

1279
01:48:28,78 --> 01:48:34,45
a beautiful community center this community
center will affect not only me and him

1280
01:48:34,47 --> 01:48:36,90
then but I bet I'm sure that

1281
01:48:36,91 --> 01:48:42,51
a lot of people from South lemme would like
and see the Ville South Plymouth which

1282
01:48:42,52 --> 01:48:46,20
is a huge area and growing all
the time and they would like

1283
01:48:46,20 --> 01:48:52,26
a community center and not have to always
go into Plymouth to do things it's

1284
01:48:52,27 --> 01:48:58,26
a community center in the south so
please some of the zoning Jane thank you

1285
01:48:58,99 --> 01:49:01,08
Michael Hamlin followed by Frank Collins.

1286
01:49:08,07 --> 01:49:14,05
Michael Hamlin precinct fifteen I want to
speak in favor of this article I've heard

1287
01:49:14,09 --> 01:49:19,16
Mr Moody's presentation at least four or
five times I've heard Mr Kelly's comments

1288
01:49:19,17 --> 01:49:24,92
at least four or five times I agree with
Mr Kelly on only one issue and that is.

1289
01:49:26,55 --> 01:49:31,45
The issue of why are we even here
discussing this this rezoning should have

1290
01:49:31,46 --> 01:49:36,66
happened years ago it didn't apparently
somebody dropped the ball we should all be

1291
01:49:36,67 --> 01:49:41,58
disappointed by that but as I said I'm
here to speak in favor of this article.

1292
01:49:43,87 --> 01:49:49,48
We have spent four million dollars of
taxpayers' money I voted for this the first

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01:49:49,49 --> 01:49:51,35
time it came up at a million and

1294
01:49:51,36 --> 01:49:56,05
a half. Not sure I voted for the
second iteration of two and

1295
01:49:56,06 --> 01:50:01,97
a half million but I'm supporting it
now we spent four million dollars of

1296
01:50:01,98 --> 01:50:08,84
taxpayers' money I can't imagine not
voting for this proposal and basically

1297
01:50:08,85 --> 01:50:15,10
throwing that money away people have expressed
concerns about the parking I have no

1298
01:50:15,11 --> 01:50:21,88
concerns about the parking. Mr Moody
suggested that there's sufficient parking I

1299
01:50:21,89 --> 01:50:28,77
agree with that. There are other
ways to deal with parking I have no

1300
01:50:28,78 --> 01:50:34,33
doubt that Mr Movies organization will
deal with it effectively as to the

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01:50:34,34 --> 01:50:41,13
neighborhoods concerns I don't you know
people have valid concerns about noise

1302
01:50:41,95 --> 01:50:48,14
lights. Cars traffic things like that
those are sometimes valid concerns

1303
01:50:48,90 --> 01:50:52,84
I have once again I have no doubt that Mr
Moody and his organization will deal with

1304
01:50:52,85 --> 01:50:57,42
that they have engaged with the neighbors
and their continue to engage with the

1305
01:50:57,43 --> 01:51:03,92
neighbors. The resolving
in what is a essentially

1306
01:51:03,93 --> 01:51:10,65
a residential neighborhood. I don't think
it's an inappropriate it's not exist as

1307
01:51:10,66 --> 01:51:17,23
if this rezoning is in the middle of
surrounded by residential there's other

1308
01:51:17,24 --> 01:51:20,83
commercial operations
in the area adjacent to

1309
01:51:20,87 --> 01:51:27,48
a budding this property I think it's
totally appropriate. To approve this

1310
01:51:27,49 --> 01:51:33,60
rezoning so I am hopeful that all of you
will support this I think this is the

1311
01:51:33,61 --> 01:51:39,68
right thing to do thank you Frank Collins
we're debating Article thirty six on the

1312
01:51:39,69 --> 01:51:46,59
Tom reading weren't for you this afternoon
welcome prank call ins Frank call ins

1313
01:51:46,60 --> 01:51:53,39
precinct six when this was an issue we
proposed five years ago I felt strongly

1314
01:51:53,40 --> 01:51:55,62
enough to get it to prepare a two and

1315
01:51:55,63 --> 01:52:01,38
a half minute presentation to convince
town meeting we should vote against it.

1316
01:52:02,77 --> 01:52:09,59
I apparently. Didn't present that good
an argument because I convinced eleven

1317
01:52:09,60 --> 01:52:11,75
others to vote against it and

1318
01:52:11,76 --> 01:52:18,12
a hundred six of you voted in favor of
this I find myself five years later after

1319
01:52:18,47 --> 01:52:25,28
spending four million dollars of taxpayers'
money to have to come here and I

1320
01:52:25,29 --> 01:52:27,43
do forward I'm

1321
01:52:27,44 --> 01:52:34,52
a pretty pragmatic it's
not that funny. I'm

1322
01:52:34,53 --> 01:52:41,34
a pretty pragmatic individual and
if we just say walk away from

1323
01:52:41,35 --> 01:52:42,30
it we'll take about

1324
01:52:42,31 --> 01:52:48,80
a three million dollar loss of taxpayers'
money to change. The use of it

1325
01:52:49,39 --> 01:52:55,98
transitional commercial doesn't really
significantly expand the use of most of the

1326
01:52:55,99 --> 01:53:02,71
uses it is. Pretty. Proposing

1327
01:53:03,12 --> 01:53:09,26
to you I permitted under the president's
own ring so I don't look at it is

1328
01:53:09,45 --> 01:53:14,56
something that's particularly onerous name
is hollow I haven't do it directly from

1329
01:53:14,57 --> 01:53:17,59
any of the neighbors to
me personally there were

1330
01:53:17,69 --> 01:53:23,33
a few questions that town meeting
caucus but pragmatically I vote.

1331
01:53:29,12 --> 01:53:33,61
For we continue I want to remind
Tommy members that we have

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01:53:33,62 --> 01:53:35,55
a by law that requires we take

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01:53:35,56 --> 01:53:42,10
a recess at least once every two
hours. Miss to slur no moves to extend

1334
01:53:42,48 --> 01:53:47,47
this town meeting beyond three o'clock in
order to complete the warrant is there

1335
01:53:47,48 --> 01:53:50,33
any discussion hearing and call for

1336
01:53:50,34 --> 01:53:56,73
a vote all those in favor say aye so say
no at this time we'll be continuing

1337
01:53:56,74 --> 01:54:02,01
however we will be taking the brief
recess at three o'clock will now continue

1338
01:54:02,46 --> 01:54:09,08
procedural motion Yes Move the question
motion to close debate at this time will be

1339
01:54:09,09 --> 01:54:09,96
no debate anyone

1340
01:54:09,97 --> 01:54:14,33
a key is to be heard can remain
standing Thank you OK and I will take

1341
01:54:14,37 --> 01:54:19,73
a voice vote on whether close debate all
those in favor of closing debate say I.

1342
01:54:20,74 --> 01:54:26,12
Post a no motion carries we now
move to Article thirty six it's

1343
01:54:26,13 --> 01:54:27,07
a two thirds vote it's

1344
01:54:27,08 --> 01:54:33,88
a roll call please get your clickers ready
when the like is on you can vote this is

1345
01:54:33,89 --> 01:54:39,17
on Article thirty six on the warrant and
you can now vote you have twenty seconds

1346
01:54:39,18 --> 01:54:42,79
in which to vote one is a yes to was

1347
01:54:42,80 --> 01:54:47,75
a No three is an abstention we are voting
on Article thirty six we will then

1348
01:54:47,76 --> 01:54:53,26
conclude with Article thirty seven you
have eight seconds six seconds in which to

1349
01:54:53,27 --> 01:54:59,97
vote like to take this opportunity
to thank everyone. For the

1350
01:54:59,98 --> 01:55:06,67
vote is now going to be shown. Ninety three
in favor twenty six in up in one of.

1351
01:55:07,79 --> 01:55:12,14
The motion carries Mr Salerno before we
take up Article thirty seven you have

1352
01:55:12,15 --> 01:55:18,59
a few remarks to make with the slur no
Before we take up Article thirty seven and I

1353
01:55:18,60 --> 01:55:24,67
want to say remarks I want to thank you all
for your attention and your respect for

1354
01:55:24,68 --> 01:55:28,13
the advisory and finance committee's
work I hope it helped you in your

1355
01:55:28,14 --> 01:55:34,09
deliberations I specially want to thank
the committee for all the hours in their

1356
01:55:34,10 --> 01:55:39,80
effort to make this all happen and of course
Thank you Kerry Jhalak who circularly

1357
01:55:39,81 --> 01:55:43,77
in efforts really makes it all
possible I look forward to next.

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01:55:49,59 --> 01:55:55,61
I look forward to next town meeting where
it's more about budgets and less about

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01:55:55,61 --> 01:56:01,72
solemn ass Solomon esque decisions thank
you thank you and I'd also like take this

1360
01:56:01,73 --> 01:56:08,13
opportunity to think Bryan Alosi to
think Kerry Jillette my office manager

1361
01:56:08,52 --> 01:56:14,04
Beth Marino my office staff Larry Pizer the
boards and committees the Tommy members

1362
01:56:14,33 --> 01:56:16,36
for your attention I'm
glad I didn't have to use

1363
01:56:16,37 --> 01:56:20,61
a mallet today and at this time we'll
continue with Article thirty seven we have

1364
01:56:20,62 --> 01:56:25,18
a motion for Mistress learn no to amend
the zoning by law so two thirds vote

1365
01:56:25,19 --> 01:56:29,14
a roll call vote was to slur No the
advisory and finance committee in

1366
01:56:29,15 --> 01:56:34,50
a unanimous vote of ten zero zero recommends
town meeting approve Article thirty

1367
01:56:34,51 --> 01:56:39,60
seven approval of this article will
amend the zoning bylaw and create

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01:56:39,61 --> 01:56:43,51
a building high overlay district
the committee recommends

1369
01:56:43,52 --> 01:56:49,97
a sixty foot high maximum in the overlay
district plan this industrial commercial

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01:56:50,18 --> 01:56:56,14
office land Study Committee identified
allowing increased Heights implements

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01:56:56,15 --> 01:56:57,73
industrial parks as

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01:56:57,74 --> 01:57:04,11
a high priority. Increasing building heights
will maximize high quality development

1373
01:57:04,41 --> 01:57:10,54
in areas already zone and developed for
such uses encourage commercial development

1374
01:57:10,86 --> 01:57:16,96
that offsets the residential tax burden and
provide quality jobs for resident thank

1375
01:57:16,97 --> 01:57:22,93
you Article thirty seven is a two thirds
vote it is a roll call vote it is

1376
01:57:22,94 --> 01:57:27,90
a petition to article we have the petitioner
Michael him and Mr Him and you get

1377
01:57:27,91 --> 01:57:29,00
your good on your petition

1378
01:57:35,83 --> 01:57:42,26
Michael him and petitioner Thank you
Mr Robert Mr Moderator. Michael Hamlin

1379
01:57:42,27 --> 01:57:45,59
precinct fifteen It took my
sweater off because I was getting

1380
01:57:45,60 --> 01:57:52,59
a little warm. So you all know this
proposal is to increase the building high

1381
01:57:52,60 --> 01:57:57,02
from thirty five feet to sixty feet
by right and then overlay district

1382
01:57:57,48 --> 01:58:03,80
a lot of people have asked does this
involve or include Camelot Park and other

1383
01:58:03,81 --> 01:58:10,43
industrial parks the answer is no this is
only the light industrial park between

1384
01:58:10,44 --> 01:58:13,45
Route three and commerce
way in North Plymouth.

1385
01:58:17,11 --> 01:58:22,24
This article has received unanimous support
from the planning board the board of

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01:58:22,24 --> 01:58:26,99
selectmen the Finance Committee Northpoint
the steering committee west on the

1387
01:58:26,99 --> 01:58:33,72
steering committee everybody's in
favor I hope you are too. The whole

1388
01:58:33,73 --> 01:58:40,69
goal here was to increase revenue
for the town of Plymouth from

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01:58:40,73 --> 01:58:46,54
non residential taxpayers that means
commercial industrial operations my very

1390
01:58:46,55 --> 01:58:51,59
strong belief is every dollar of revenue
we get from industrial commercial

1391
01:58:52,40 --> 01:58:53,38
establishments is

1392
01:58:53,39 --> 01:58:59,68
a dollar that the residential taxpayers
does not have to pay very simple math it

1393
01:58:59,69 --> 01:59:03,47
may be more complicated than that
probably is but that's my simple math

1394
01:59:07,45 --> 01:59:12,64
one of the. You may have simply I went to
the border slices me before I got up and

1395
01:59:12,65 --> 01:59:16,39
spoke on my article they
heard a presentation by

1396
01:59:17,18 --> 01:59:22,86
a guy from R K G A consulting doing work
for the Economic Development Foundation

1397
01:59:23,60 --> 01:59:27,75
one of the comments from that
gentleman was we are saturated with

1398
01:59:27,76 --> 01:59:34,45
a retail development we don't need any
more Home Depot stop in shops Wal Marts

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01:59:34,69 --> 01:59:41,56
whatever what we need is high level
commercial development that brings

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01:59:41,57 --> 01:59:47,91
high pain jobs to this community that
will generate greater tax revenue

1401
01:59:48,49 --> 01:59:51,76
but more importantly or just
as importantly it will create

1402
01:59:51,77 --> 01:59:57,48
a community where people can live and work
in the same neighborhood and maybe they

1403
01:59:57,49 --> 02:00:01,52
will have to stop I commuted to Peabody
for five years until I couldn't stand it

1404
02:00:01,53 --> 02:00:08,51
anymore that was crazy people commute all
over the place if we create more jobs I

1405
02:00:08,52 --> 02:00:14,52
paint jobs in this community
maybe we can work it so.

1406
02:00:16,05 --> 02:00:20,50
If you have any questions about this proposal
I'm certainly glad to answer them but

1407
02:00:20,51 --> 02:00:26,37
I hope you will support it thank you it
being two hours since we last commenced

1408
02:00:26,38 --> 02:00:26,74
We'll take

1409
02:00:26,75 --> 02:00:46,86
a thirty second recess. The

1410
02:00:47,45 --> 02:00:52,00
article thirty seven we're going to continue
with the debate Betsy HALL Are you at

1411
02:00:52,01 --> 02:00:58,99
the microphone do you get to be heard at
the Hall. We're debating Article thirty

1412
02:00:59,00 --> 02:01:03,04
seven this is promise and you will tell
meeting that's the old John Hammond I'm in

1413
02:01:03,05 --> 02:01:08,04
front for your sake you asked for our
speakers to come up front for you Mr

1414
02:01:08,05 --> 02:01:13,86
Moderator I agree with everything Mr
Hanlon says I have two questions I and two

1415
02:01:13,87 --> 02:01:19,71
concerns one is that I don't believe
impacts that he has been done that.

1416
02:01:20,77 --> 02:01:27,26
We have information about how this new
zoning will affect when Gary Hart's

1417
02:01:27,27 --> 02:01:32,51
neighborhood or the neighborhood of North
Clemente we just hereon article on how

1418
02:01:32,52 --> 02:01:38,85
development on overy Street has caused great
hardship and to the people who live in

1419
02:01:38,86 --> 02:01:44,25
this area and I don't want to create that
kind of hardship for the people who live

1420
02:01:44,26 --> 02:01:48,76
in West Plymouth and North Plymouth So if
we have not had an impact study done on

1421
02:01:48,77 --> 02:01:54,34
this I will vote no against and vote no on
this article until that's done Secondly

1422
02:01:54,64 --> 02:01:59,95
I would like to know what kind of fire
equipment this town has that meets the sixty

1423
02:01:59,96 --> 02:02:05,08
four I'm required fire department
requirement thank you and when you get

1424
02:02:05,09 --> 02:02:08,90
a response to the question leave our men
director of planning and development

1425
02:02:09,28 --> 02:02:15,37
responding thank you thank you so on page
two forty six of your package you'll see

1426
02:02:15,38 --> 02:02:20,90
the overlay district and as we went through
this process the areas of the body

1427
02:02:20,91 --> 02:02:26,84
residential neighborhood excluded which is
basically the Resnick road areas of the

1428
02:02:26,85 --> 02:02:30,82
industrial park so to address those
concerns those areas have been

1429
02:02:30,83 --> 02:02:37,71
a really impossible to do any kind of
environmental impact review because you

1430
02:02:39,03 --> 02:02:42,92
know on one to five buildings
there were really would be no

1431
02:02:49,20 --> 02:02:53,12
fire suppression so these buildings as we
talked about in that seventy five foot

1432
02:02:53,32 --> 02:02:57,65
and the chief is here if you'd like to get
up to at this late hour but the they're

1433
02:02:57,66 --> 02:03:02,50
all internally controlled with sprinklers
and fire suppression system as we talked

1434
02:03:02,51 --> 02:03:08,21
with the seventy five foot height there's
no concern with fire suppression are all

1435
02:03:08,22 --> 02:03:13,17
completely. Frankly that's the only I was
thinking of the traffic impact study not

1436
02:03:13,21 --> 02:03:18,41
even environmental impact although both of
the great leader and so we have at times

1437
02:03:18,42 --> 02:03:20,33
as we've looked at this
whole car looked at

1438
02:03:27,23 --> 02:03:33,10
sheep Bradley could respond regarding
Fire Chief Edward Bradley Plymouth fire

1439
02:03:33,11 --> 02:03:36,12
department welcome we
covered most of those

1440
02:03:42,78 --> 02:03:49,61
standby so the fire protection for
us is going to this fire is are you

1441
02:03:57,97 --> 02:04:03,97
ready to replace or seventy five what it
really will be one hundred foot but that

1442
02:04:04,01 --> 02:04:10,81
the buildings themselves are built led by

1443
02:04:10,94 --> 02:04:17,84
as little buzz buzz the Tommy member

1444
02:04:18,84 --> 02:04:25,44
as good afternoon ladies and. Vines
from precinct one here we go again

1445
02:04:25,45 --> 02:04:31,06
folks the last time they came in they
wanted seventy five feet they went very

1446
02:04:31,07 --> 02:04:37,89
successful Do we want the people to
come and diplomats not forty four to

1447
02:04:37,90 --> 02:04:42,66
see these big high rises is saying
we like in the city of Quincy

1448
02:04:44,67 --> 02:04:51,47
let them live with what we have how
many times as somebody refused to

1449
02:04:51,48 --> 02:04:57,41
come to Plymouth because we don't have
fifty five feet or seventy five feet

1450
02:04:59,19 --> 02:05:05,16
I think we stayed the way we would be
fine these want to build the building to

1451
02:05:05,17 --> 02:05:09,76
spread the footprint of the building they
could call it sideways or backwards up

1452
02:05:09,77 --> 02:05:16,74
front once leave it alone I've urged you
to vote no on this thank you when get hard

1453
02:05:20,03 --> 02:05:26,25
we're debating Article thirty seven of the
Plymouth fall in you will do you when

1454
02:05:26,26 --> 02:05:32,05
you're high priest. So I'm up here
again in terms of speaking about our

1455
02:05:32,19 --> 02:05:38,47
neighborhood industrial park in West Plymouth
I do understand the need for jobs and

1456
02:05:38,51 --> 02:05:41,69
economic development but I think we as

1457
02:05:41,70 --> 02:05:45,48
a town have to spread this out I mean Mr
Hammond says people can live and work in

1458
02:05:45,49 --> 02:05:47,32
the same place but this is

1459
02:05:47,33 --> 02:05:54,18
a huge town and the industrial park is in
one corner of town I think again we have

1460
02:05:54,19 --> 02:05:58,87
this assumption that we can default
everything to the industrial park and nobody

1461
02:05:58,88 --> 02:06:03,57
lives there and it doesn't have an impact
and my neighbors myself my constituents

1462
02:06:03,81 --> 02:06:08,42
and the North Plymouth area
also live there and have

1463
02:06:08,43 --> 02:06:13,07
a major impact which has not been
studied the last time this came before

1464
02:06:13,08 --> 02:06:17,39
a town meeting I wasn't in town meeting
but it was seventy five feet and it

1465
02:06:17,40 --> 02:06:22,55
included the Camelot industrial park also
and I from reading the paper understand

1466
02:06:22,56 --> 02:06:28,62
that Mr Dobbs spoke and the sentiment
happened to be the vote was prevailing that

1467
02:06:28,63 --> 02:06:32,69
we don't want to look like Weymouth we don't
want to look like Windsor. We want to

1468
02:06:32,70 --> 02:06:38,45
maintain the character of Plymouth this
time there are some changes in this which I

1469
02:06:38,46 --> 02:06:42,33
think make it even more negative it doesn't
include Camelot park for some reason

1470
02:06:42,34 --> 02:06:49,06
and I I actually tried to amend that but
it was too late and it also is as by

1471
02:06:49,07 --> 02:06:53,87
right so all of my my neighbors and
myself would have no right to go in on

1472
02:06:53,88 --> 02:06:59,43
a special permit to talk about traffic
and talk about mitigation and I think we

1473
02:06:59,44 --> 02:07:03,98
have to look at this if we are looking
at the whole area of the industrial park

1474
02:07:04,02 --> 02:07:09,30
it's not in isolation we are surrounded
in that area by all of the commercial all

1475
02:07:09,31 --> 02:07:11,53
of the retail at Colony place at

1476
02:07:11,94 --> 02:07:16,69
a crossing because again the default has
been let's put it in that part of climate

1477
02:07:16,70 --> 02:07:22,54
so I think that there are major issues when
you look at the whole area both for the

1478
02:07:22,55 --> 02:07:28,14
neighbors and for everybody coming into
play as in terms of traffic and we wouldn't

1479
02:07:28,15 --> 02:07:33,57
have the right to bring that up if there's
no special permit if it's by right. I

1480
02:07:33,58 --> 02:07:40,40
also think that. There is already
excess capacity in the industrial park

1481
02:07:40,71 --> 02:07:45,41
a friend of mine is the business manager
of be the up on the building that they

1482
02:07:45,42 --> 02:07:50,19
just built they they built this brand
new building it's only two stories they

1483
02:07:50,20 --> 02:07:54,55
occupy the first floor and they have not
been able to rent out the second floor the

1484
02:07:54,56 --> 02:07:58,60
whole but half of the building is empty
there's other buildings in the industrial

1485
02:07:58,61 --> 02:08:04,95
park that have excess capacity so to say
that we need more commercial space. Is

1486
02:08:04,96 --> 02:08:09,30
just flooded there's another building
that was permitted I believe between the

1487
02:08:09,31 --> 02:08:16,12
Spaulding Rehab and Glen electric That's
the construction has stopped because they

1488
02:08:16,13 --> 02:08:20,56
don't have tenants so and I've also heard
some comments about how this would.

1489
02:08:21,63 --> 02:08:23,76
People would instead of building

1490
02:08:23,77 --> 02:08:28,57
a new building next to an old building
that the what would happen with the

1491
02:08:28,96 --> 02:08:32,00
buildings would be torn down
that are already there to build

1492
02:08:32,04 --> 02:08:35,88
a six story building which to me makes
no sense especially when we don't have.

1493
02:08:36,52 --> 02:08:40,97
Capacity to fill the existing building so
I'm very concerned again about the impact

1494
02:08:40,98 --> 02:08:45,00
on our part of town and if we make it as
of right I think we're going to you know

1495
02:08:45,04 --> 02:08:48,12
we're going to look like Quincy and Weymouth
and that's not why I wouldn't plummet

1496
02:08:48,13 --> 02:08:54,47
so I urge you to vote against things thank
you one of the Tell Me members wish to

1497
02:08:54,48 --> 02:09:00,26
make procedural vote I'm going to go through
my list next speaking Kampuchea Thank

1498
02:09:00,27 --> 02:09:07,25
you Mr Moderator I would like to thank
Mike handling for taking the time to read

1499
02:09:08,46 --> 02:09:15,22
the eighteen month industrial
lands committee report that

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02:09:15,34 --> 02:09:22,15
Lee Hartman sat on my husband sat on Belinda
Brewster Garrett lot of good people

1501
02:09:22,60 --> 02:09:22,84
took

1502
02:09:22,85 --> 02:09:32,70
a long time to see what Plymouth
could do to bring in more money. We

1503
02:09:32,71 --> 02:09:39,34
lost Cisco they went to another town why

1504
02:09:40,56 --> 02:09:47,28
because there wasn't room rightly
there there wasn't room so we just

1505
02:09:47,29 --> 02:09:49,11
turned down the waterfront.

1506
02:09:53,42 --> 02:09:59,68
Tourist destination
and. We need places to.

1507
02:10:00,95 --> 02:10:06,75
Bring in businesses insurance companies
need at least two or three for as the

1508
02:10:06,76 --> 02:10:13,73
reason why some of those are empty is
because we don't have the adequate room for

1509
02:10:13,74 --> 02:10:20,43
Ari. I for one am very
appreciative of you Mike for doing

1510
02:10:20,44 --> 02:10:27,31
there taking the time and they has
to be more of you doing things

1511
02:10:27,32 --> 02:10:32,37
like that because these
things tend to sit on

1512
02:10:32,38 --> 02:10:36,73
a shelf and collect dust
Thank you Lawrence tell

1513
02:10:36,74 --> 02:10:43,08
a field. We're debating Article thirty
seven and you will tell meeting weren't Mr

1514
02:10:43,09 --> 02:10:49,93
Delafield punky Delafield.
Twelve precinct twelve. I

1515
02:10:49,94 --> 02:10:52,06
just want to reiterate

1516
02:10:52,11 --> 02:10:56,82
a little bit the idea that you have these
these impact studies are very important

1517
02:10:57,74 --> 02:11:01,28
anyone who comes down forty
four knows the colony place has

1518
02:11:01,29 --> 02:11:05,88
a very definite impact on this town a
five story building is going to have

1519
02:11:05,89 --> 02:11:11,52
a bigger impact on this town my concern
about this is I wouldn't be nearly as

1520
02:11:11,53 --> 02:11:16,58
concerned if it was Camelot park but you're
talking about the intersection of the

1521
02:11:16,59 --> 02:11:22,99
two major entrances to Plymouth and
you're saying you want to build that out

1522
02:11:23,39 --> 02:11:27,81
and yes you can follow Mr Hartman which I
understand fully We don't know what the

1523
02:11:27,82 --> 02:11:33,02
impact is built by zoning you hope the
impact is going to be maximum because that's

1524
02:11:33,03 --> 02:11:38,39
why we're doing it we're doing it so that
it will get built out so we have to look

1525
02:11:38,40 --> 02:11:43,91
at the impact of what that means and I
don't think anyone has done that visual

1526
02:11:43,92 --> 02:11:49,24
impact and I'm not sure some of the other
impacts have been sufficient So I think

1527
02:11:49,25 --> 02:11:55,81
that we need to do an impact study
that really reflects Mr Just errors.

1528
02:11:57,24 --> 02:12:00,25
Concern that we are a

1529
02:12:00,66 --> 02:12:06,38
a Taurus community and we do not want to
build out right at the major entrance with

1530
02:12:06,42 --> 02:12:12,75
five story buildings which may not suit the
needs of this town at all thank you for

1531
02:12:12,76 --> 02:12:18,24
the Brady. Brady precinct ten called The
question with the questions closed debates

1532
02:12:18,25 --> 02:12:23,16
not debatable those who still wish to be
heard are standing I will now call Provost

1533
02:12:23,17 --> 02:12:28,63
voice vote on the motion to close to bait
all those in favor of closing debate on

1534
02:12:28,64 --> 02:12:35,49
Article thirty seven say I. Both say no
motion carries by more than two thirds We

1535
02:12:35,50 --> 02:12:39,12
will now proceed to vote on Article
thirty seven it is a two thirds vote in

1536
02:12:39,13 --> 02:12:44,22
a roll call it is not unanimous and we
will now have electronic voting on Article

1537
02:12:44,23 --> 02:12:49,32
thirty seven when the light goes on please
vote your clickers unless we have any

1538
02:12:49,33 --> 02:12:54,84
further votes today the last motion please
vote you have twenty seconds here after

1539
02:12:54,85 --> 02:12:59,39
will have missed a slur knows motion
to dissolve so two thirds vote

1540
02:12:59,43 --> 02:13:04,75
a roll call on this we're having it by
electronic voting how many members are

1541
02:13:04,76 --> 02:13:09,68
voting and we have five seconds to
complete the vote on the electronic voting

1542
02:13:10,14 --> 02:13:14,30
Thanks also to the vendor from the
electronic voting we've completed the vote.

1543
02:13:16,74 --> 02:13:21,59
Ninety eight in favor nineteen
in opposition the motion carries

1544
02:13:22,02 --> 02:13:26,38
a lesser any other matters to come before
this meeting mistress learn no move to

1545
02:13:26,39 --> 02:13:32,30
dissolve this fall and you will tell meeting
any discussion hearing none call for

1546
02:13:32,31 --> 02:13:38,59
a vote all those in favor say aye
both say no moshing carries this

1547
02:13:38,91 --> 02:13:44,63
meeting is dissolved the same afternoon
at three fourteen pm Thank you.